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a*****g
发帖数: 19398
1
【 以下文字转载自 Chess 讨论区 】
发信人: ananpig (安安猪●○围棋数学一把抓), 信区: Chess
标 题: 国际象棋如何猜先?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 8 14:11:40 2013, 美东)
就是双方决定谁持白先行的过程
r****y
发帖数: 26819
2
摘自wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-move_advantage_in_chess
In chess tournaments and matches, the frequency with which each player recei
ves White and Black is an important consideration. In matches, the players'
colors in the first game are determined by drawing lots, and alternated ther
eafter.[162] In round robin tournaments with an odd number of players, each
player receives an equal number of Whites and Blacks; with an even number of
players, each receives one extra White or Black. Where one or more players
withdraws from the tournament, the tournament director may change the assign
ed colors in some games so that no player receives two more Blacks than Whit
es, or vice versa.[163] The double-round robin tournament is considered to g
ive the most reliable final standings, since each player receives the same n
umber of Whites and Blacks, and plays both White and Black against each oppo
nent.[164]
In Swiss system tournaments, the tournament director tries to ensure that ea
ch player receives, as nearly as possible, the same number of games as White
and Black, and that the player's color alternates from round to round.[165]
After the first round, the director may deviate from the otherwise prescrib
ed pairings in order to give as many players as possible their equalizing or
due colors.[166] More substantial deviations are permissible to avoid givin
g a player two more Blacks than Whites (for example, three Blacks in four ga
mes) than vice versa, since extra Whites "cause far less player distress" th
an extra Blacks, which impose "a significant handicap" on the affected playe
r.[167] Tournaments with an even number of rounds cause the most problems, s
ince if there is a disparity, it is greater (e.g., a player receiving two Wh
ites and four Blacks).

【在 a*****g 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Chess 讨论区 】
: 发信人: ananpig (安安猪●○围棋数学一把抓), 信区: Chess
: 标 题: 国际象棋如何猜先?
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 8 14:11:40 2013, 美东)
: 就是双方决定谁持白先行的过程

a*****g
发帖数: 19398
3
听起来好像没有猜先的事情,
而是尽可能多下几轮争取先后次数均衡

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【在 r****y 的大作中提到】
: 摘自wiki:
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-move_advantage_in_chess
: In chess tournaments and matches, the frequency with which each player recei
: ves White and Black is an important consideration. In matches, the players'
: colors in the first game are determined by drawing lots, and alternated ther
: eafter.[162] In round robin tournaments with an odd number of players, each
: player receives an equal number of Whites and Blacks; with an even number of
: players, each receives one extra White or Black. Where one or more players
: withdraws from the tournament, the tournament director may change the assign
: ed colors in some games so that no player receives two more Blacks than Whit

m******n
发帖数: 15691
4
不是尽可能,而是国象基本都是循环赛,循环赛积分高的冠军, 循环赛中黑白次数一
样,但也有签运,也有双循环赛制,避免了签运问题

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【在 a*****g 的大作中提到】
: 听起来好像没有猜先的事情,
: 而是尽可能多下几轮争取先后次数均衡
:
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: ther
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: of
: players
: assign

a*****g
发帖数: 19398
5
我平时的围棋学生有下 chess 的
我问他们chess如何猜先,
曾经有一个给我说是在两只手的其中一个里面抓一个兵,对方猜哪一只手。
猜对了,就先行。

【在 m******n 的大作中提到】
: 不是尽可能,而是国象基本都是循环赛,循环赛积分高的冠军, 循环赛中黑白次数一
: 样,但也有签运,也有双循环赛制,避免了签运问题
:
: players
: number
: to
: same
: that
: equalizing
: four

m****r
发帖数: 6639
6
被你这么说, 好像我以前干过这样的事。

【在 a*****g 的大作中提到】
: 我平时的围棋学生有下 chess 的
: 我问他们chess如何猜先,
: 曾经有一个给我说是在两只手的其中一个里面抓一个兵,对方猜哪一只手。
: 猜对了,就先行。

Z****a
发帖数: 5434
7
国际象棋赛的基本形式有tournament和match两大类
tournament为多人参赛,积分最高者为冠军。参赛人数较少时可单循环或双循环。人数
多时一般用瑞士制。
match为两人多局对抗,类似围棋的番棋。

【在 m******n 的大作中提到】
: 不是尽可能,而是国象基本都是循环赛,循环赛积分高的冠军, 循环赛中黑白次数一
: 样,但也有签运,也有双循环赛制,避免了签运问题
:
: players
: number
: to
: same
: that
: equalizing
: four

a*****g
发帖数: 19398
8
我就怕小鬼们没正形,说的非正式猜先,被我当作正式猜先方式了

【在 m****r 的大作中提到】
: 被你这么说, 好像我以前干过这样的事。
a*****g
发帖数: 19398
9
基本上明白了,国际象棋没有猜先,是靠赛制来均衡先行威力。
想一想也符合道理——
国际象棋是基于逻辑的,不是数字的,所以没办法在棋局内部解决。

数一

【在 Z****a 的大作中提到】
: 国际象棋赛的基本形式有tournament和match两大类
: tournament为多人参赛,积分最高者为冠军。参赛人数较少时可单循环或双循环。人数
: 多时一般用瑞士制。
: match为两人多局对抗,类似围棋的番棋。

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