A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 1 i know long irons are supposed to be hard to hit.
but, i just dont quite understand the reason.
for my own case,
7/8/9/P short irons got very good solid contact and relatively consistent.
Driver, woods, hybrid: i can hit very long (relatively)
but somehow, i dont have any iron which can carry and pass 170 yard mark,
none. not even in range.
dont know
1. if i need change my swing overhual, since i am very satisified with my
driver, so i dont want to overhual and mess my driver.
2. if i should get | i****e
发帖数: 913 | 2 if you really want to hit 3,4, 5 irons into 180+ range, maybe you can use
some extra cavity by getting combo set.
following is my carry distance, i will hit hybrid #3, 19 degree for anything
need a 180+ carry. i rarely use my 4 iron unless i have to keep ball under
low-hang branches, or long stinger shot, and i don't even carry 3 iron.
5 175
6 165
7 155
8 145
9 135
P 120-125 | A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 3 well, you got very good coverage under your 5/6 irons. i guess that is good
enough for you to not use 3iron.
for me, 5/6 at most get me to 160.
when playing on the course, if there is 170 or more needed, i run out of
option.
when i hit 3 and 4, the ball can lauch high, but wont go far, not even
farther than 170.
anything
under
【在 i****e 的大作中提到】
: if you really want to hit 3,4, 5 irons into 180+ range, maybe you can use
: some extra cavity by getting combo set.
: following is my carry distance, i will hit hybrid #3, 19 degree for anything
: need a 180+ carry. i rarely use my 4 iron unless i have to keep ball under
: low-hang branches, or long stinger shot, and i don't even carry 3 iron.
: 5 175
: 6 165
: 7 155
: 8 145
: 9 135
| i****e
发帖数: 913 | 4 i think that's basically a hand-eye coordination thing.
for average golfers like us that gets maxed out at 6,7 iron, and you have to
play a guessing game when hitting 3,4,5 iron.
so you will hesitate when hitting down and lose momentum or accuracy, thus
causing lack of distance or missing the target.
that's why i said to you before, long par4s (400+) is killer, anything
happened to your driver, you will be left with a 180+ approaching shot into
green, you don't have a 2nd chance like par5s and y | A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 5 直中命门
//haha
to
into
【在 i****e 的大作中提到】
: i think that's basically a hand-eye coordination thing.
: for average golfers like us that gets maxed out at 6,7 iron, and you have to
: play a guessing game when hitting 3,4,5 iron.
: so you will hesitate when hitting down and lose momentum or accuracy, thus
: causing lack of distance or missing the target.
: that's why i said to you before, long par4s (400+) is killer, anything
: happened to your driver, you will be left with a 180+ approaching shot into
: green, you don't have a 2nd chance like par5s and y
| p*********n
发帖数: 1618 | 6 If you can hit your mid/short iron as far as the previous poster did, you
should have no problem hit 160 yarders with your 6/5 irons.Does your shot
always have high traj? If that's the case, then it must be your swing.
good
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: well, you got very good coverage under your 5/6 irons. i guess that is good
: enough for you to not use 3iron.
: for me, 5/6 at most get me to 160.
: when playing on the course, if there is 170 or more needed, i run out of
: option.
: when i hit 3 and 4, the ball can lauch high, but wont go far, not even
: farther than 170.
:
: anything
: under
| A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 7 no, i cant hit mid/short irons as far as ixcafe
comparing ixcafe's:
5 175
6 165
7 155
8 145
9 135
P 120-125
with mine:
5 155
6 145
7 135
8 125
9 115
P 105
which is about 10 yards incremental iron by iron same as ixcafe.
As for driver/woods/hybrid, i would say, probably at the same range as
ixcafe.
So, overall, even my mid/short irons are not as far as many friends, those
distances didnt give me trouble yet. but you can see, after 5iron, i run out
of weapons.
Yes, almost all my shots always have
【在 p*********n 的大作中提到】
: If you can hit your mid/short iron as far as the previous poster did, you
: should have no problem hit 160 yarders with your 6/5 irons.Does your shot
: always have high traj? If that's the case, then it must be your swing.
:
: good
| y**********7
发帖数: 769 | 8 Based on your statement "almost all my shots always have high traj", I feel that indicates you need to
1. lower your trajectory by supination instead of pronation. This will make
your 7 iron become 5 iron. I learned this technique from Ben Hogan's book.
That can increase distance a lot.
2. improve your swing to hit the ball more solidly with long irons. Half
inch off from sweet spot can cause 15% loss of distance.
This is a common problem. I have a friend whose driver distance is OK but iron dis | A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 9 turn out, tip 1 is a great tip.
i can see the beneficial on my short/mid irons, especially on wedges on
course.
long iron got slightly improvement at range, at least i did see sometimes
ball carry over 170 mark now, but not dependable on course.
combine your tip, and pianerchuan's tip, i mainly work on mid/short irons.
let long irons sort it out by itself by then.
feel that indicates you need to
make
iron distance is not long enough and trajectory is high. I also had this
problem before.
【在 y**********7 的大作中提到】
: Based on your statement "almost all my shots always have high traj", I feel that indicates you need to
: 1. lower your trajectory by supination instead of pronation. This will make
: your 7 iron become 5 iron. I learned this technique from Ben Hogan's book.
: That can increase distance a lot.
: 2. improve your swing to hit the ball more solidly with long irons. Half
: inch off from sweet spot can cause 15% loss of distance.
: This is a common problem. I have a friend whose driver distance is OK but iron dis
| A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 10 wosai,
cant say enough about those tips. now i can see myself utilize 3/4 iron,
without thinking of buying new clubs.
it totally transformed my iron play. :) in a good way, of course.
my best advice to follow golfers is to ask your questions here.
who knows, maybe someone would come up with the best advices you ever needed.
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: turn out, tip 1 is a great tip.
: i can see the beneficial on my short/mid irons, especially on wedges on
: course.
: long iron got slightly improvement at range, at least i did see sometimes
: ball carry over 170 mark now, but not dependable on course.
: combine your tip, and pianerchuan's tip, i mainly work on mid/short irons.
: let long irons sort it out by itself by then.
:
: feel that indicates you need to
: make
| | | F*****y
发帖数: 100 | 11 Supination (bowed left wrist) is a must-have. When I first started, I had a
ugly cupped wrist and struggled to hit 130 with 7 iron. Now, I don't have as
much supination as pros, but my left wrist is no longer cupped at impact.
The result is significant gain in distance.
needed.
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: wosai,
: cant say enough about those tips. now i can see myself utilize 3/4 iron,
: without thinking of buying new clubs.
: it totally transformed my iron play. :) in a good way, of course.
: my best advice to follow golfers is to ask your questions here.
: who knows, maybe someone would come up with the best advices you ever needed.
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 12 3iron is the club i practice most, i heard that if hit long iron good, then
will hit all clubs with ease.
i tried drills on supination, helps squaring club face at impact. feel and
tune it in pre shot rehearse when i slice too much. golf swing is only 1.2
second action, better has few swing thoughts as possible.
last time hit 3iron 180 yards something at course, no good enough yet. my
goal is to hit it to 190-200 yards.
feel that balance is the most important swing thought for me. especially
shi
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: wosai,
: cant say enough about those tips. now i can see myself utilize 3/4 iron,
: without thinking of buying new clubs.
: it totally transformed my iron play. :) in a good way, of course.
: my best advice to follow golfers is to ask your questions here.
: who knows, maybe someone would come up with the best advices you ever needed.
| b********5
发帖数: 253 | 13 Aff,
I had your "can't hit long iron" problem before so I did not carry any irons
longer than 5 iron before early 2008 when I purchased my 5th. iron set that
has 3 and 4 irons. I figured I had to practice with them otherwise that
would be a waste of money. With practice I managed to hit them with
confidence on course now. I do not usually carry 3 iron though because that
distance is covered by my newly purchased 3 iron-wood.
My conclusion about hitting long iron well is just focusing on hitting | A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 14 thanks for sharing.
i had 3i flight over 192 flag yersteday. //kaka
i know consistency need long time to build, but knowing i can hit it far
gave me some confidence. to me, i was not aware of supination, and my ball
fight were all high.
I will try your "loosing grip tip" on range soon. it makes sense. Hopefully,
that would help my long iron stay long.
irons
that
that
ball
,
【在 b********5 的大作中提到】
: Aff,
: I had your "can't hit long iron" problem before so I did not carry any irons
: longer than 5 iron before early 2008 when I purchased my 5th. iron set that
: has 3 and 4 irons. I figured I had to practice with them otherwise that
: would be a waste of money. With practice I managed to hit them with
: confidence on course now. I do not usually carry 3 iron though because that
: distance is covered by my newly purchased 3 iron-wood.
: My conclusion about hitting long iron well is just focusing on hitting
| b********5
发帖数: 253 | 15 Aff,
Good to hear you carry 3 iron 192 yard. That is a confidence booster for
sure. Ball trajectory being high may just be your club configuration. My
iron set has 3, 4 irons configured to high trajectory while the shorter ones
relatively low. To myself I would prefer long iron shots take higher
trajectory. That would stop the ball softer from that far distance.
Talking about golf here makes me so anxious about playing ... I can't wait
to see myself on range and course. | n**h
发帖数: 154 | 16 yellowstone7, 怎么练习这个supination啊。我觉得我要是刻意地去做的话，很别扭，
觉得手腕都会被扭伤。如果顺其自然的话，就是pronation了，是不是错误动作习惯成
自然了。不知道怎么改。
看这个录像，觉得那样刻意去做手腕很难受。
feel that indicates you need to
make
iron distance is not long enough and trajectory is high. I also had this
problem before.
【在 y**********7 的大作中提到】
: Based on your statement "almost all my shots always have high traj", I feel that indicates you need to
: 1. lower your trajectory by supination instead of pronation. This will make
: your 7 iron become 5 iron. I learned this technique from Ben Hogan's book.
: That can increase distance a lot.
: 2. improve your swing to hit the ball more solidly with long irons. Half
: inch off from sweet spot can cause 15% loss of distance.
: This is a common problem. I have a friend whose driver distance is OK but iron dis
| y**********7
发帖数: 769 | 17 麻猫, supination 是正确挥杆的必然结果. 不是刻意做出来的. 刻意去做不但做不好,
手腕还容易受伤. 事实上, 如果顺其自然的话，应是supination 而不是pronation.
在杆头触球的瞬间(at impact), 如果你的左腿已经站直, 身体重心已经从右脚转到左
脚, 下身(胯部)已经45度open, 上身基本正对球与setup时差不多, 而你的双臂与上身
绞合(hinge)保持得很好的话, 你的左碗必定在杆头的前面(相对目标而言, 即离目标近
). 这时, supination 是必然的. 不可能是pronation. 如果, 你认为pronation是顺其
自然,那么你的swing就不可能正确.
这个录像我觉得不错. 你可以再看几遍, 仔细研究(不妨分解后,逐格研究). 只要握杆
, 手腕, 手臂都很松, 挥杆smooth并在杆头触球前保持头不动, 落杆(downswing)是自由落体+钟摆运动, 你就容易打得准而不容易伤手腕. 切记不要用力和人为制造紧张(tension).
【在 n**h 的大作中提到】
: yellowstone7, 怎么练习这个supination啊。我觉得我要是刻意地去做的话，很别扭，
: 觉得手腕都会被扭伤。如果顺其自然的话，就是pronation了，是不是错误动作习惯成
: 自然了。不知道怎么改。
: 看这个录像，觉得那样刻意去做手腕很难受。
:
: feel that indicates you need to
: make
: iron distance is not long enough and trajectory is high. I also had this
: problem before.
| n**h
发帖数: 154 | 18 十分感谢，回头到练习场再仔细体会体会。
好,
【在 y**********7 的大作中提到】
: 麻猫, supination 是正确挥杆的必然结果. 不是刻意做出来的. 刻意去做不但做不好,
: 手腕还容易受伤. 事实上, 如果顺其自然的话，应是supination 而不是pronation.
: 在杆头触球的瞬间(at impact), 如果你的左腿已经站直, 身体重心已经从右脚转到左
: 脚, 下身(胯部)已经45度open, 上身基本正对球与setup时差不多, 而你的双臂与上身
: 绞合(hinge)保持得很好的话, 你的左碗必定在杆头的前面(相对目标而言, 即离目标近
: ). 这时, supination 是必然的. 不可能是pronation. 如果, 你认为pronation是顺其
: 自然,那么你的swing就不可能正确.
: 这个录像我觉得不错. 你可以再看几遍, 仔细研究(不妨分解后,逐格研究). 只要握杆
: , 手腕, 手臂都很松, 挥杆smooth并在杆头触球前保持头不动, 落杆(downswing)是自由落体+钟摆运动, 你就容易打得准而不容易伤手腕. 切记不要用力和人为制造紧张(tension).
| Z****n
发帖数: 108 | 19 A good drill for this is keep your two feet together during the swing and
make the swing shorter (like half swing or 3/4 swing). In this case you don'
t need to worry about your lower body and can solely focus on your wrist.
Also at the stance, your wrist should be already in supination and keep the
same supination at the ball impact. This drill helped me quite a bit on
supination.
【在 n**h 的大作中提到】
: yellowstone7, 怎么练习这个supination啊。我觉得我要是刻意地去做的话，很别扭，
: 觉得手腕都会被扭伤。如果顺其自然的话，就是pronation了，是不是错误动作习惯成
: 自然了。不知道怎么改。
: 看这个录像，觉得那样刻意去做手腕很难受。
:
: feel that indicates you need to
: make
: iron distance is not long enough and trajectory is high. I also had this
: problem before.
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