T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 1 手里一堆.22加二战老枪加老毛子的半自动
.22太easy
Saiga好是好,但是trigger太差,经常有飞弹,要convert,在加州就要加mag lock
mosin 91/30不错,但枪管太薄,多打几枪,group就张开了
k31子弹太贵,打不多
M39非常好,但是舍不得打洞装镜子
靶场试了朋友的T3很不错,随便打了几枪就是1MOA。不过太轻了,在靶场多打几枪肩膀
腮帮子受不
了。
现在倾向于Savage 10FP in 308警察系列,因为可以自己换枪管。不知道还有什么这个
价位范围
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x********n 发帖数: 1188 | 3 不出所料,呵呵
【在 j***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Rem 700
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j***n 发帖数: 3786 | 4 好枪,的确好枪。连SPS Tactical 20",打开包装就是0.5MOA的精度。
【在 x********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不出所料,呵呵
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l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 5 Shoot a .22LR at 200 yds target is difficult. Bullet drop, wind,
marksmanship, etc. all come into play. It is a good way to work on your
practical long range shooting skills.
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 手里一堆.22加二战老枪加老毛子的半自动 : .22太easy : Saiga好是好,但是trigger太差,经常有飞弹,要convert,在加州就要加mag lock : mosin 91/30不错,但枪管太薄,多打几枪,group就张开了 : k31子弹太贵,打不多 : M39非常好,但是舍不得打洞装镜子 : 靶场试了朋友的T3很不错,随便打了几枪就是1MOA。不过太轻了,在靶场多打几枪肩膀 : 腮帮子受不 : 了。 : 现在倾向于Savage 10FP in 308警察系列,因为可以自己换枪管。不知道还有什么这个
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l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 6 一定要搞308,还可以考虑一下Savage 10FCP-K,军警用版,七八百刀,accu-trigger,
accu-stoke,muzzle brake全带,省得折腾。 |
M***H 发帖数: 398 | 7 樓主準備打多遠
300碼以內 不如考慮.223 子彈便宜多了 抗風性也尚可
我的10FP .223在500碼還打贏朋友的Remington 700 5R
只是一刮風就亂飛 |
h***u 发帖数: 23 | 8 Remington 700 MilSpec 308 SS 24" 5-R Barrel
重管,不锈钢。 |
x*7 发帖数: 11281 | 9
trigger,
不知道REM 700装同样的出来要花多少钱
【在 l***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 一定要搞308,还可以考虑一下Savage 10FCP-K,军警用版,七八百刀,accu-trigger, : accu-stoke,muzzle brake全带,省得折腾。
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k**********i 发帖数: 8706 | 10 差不多价钱
【在 x*7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : trigger, : 不知道REM 700装同样的出来要花多少钱
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T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 11 嗯 FCP-K 看起来是不错,如果stock的cheek weld在好点就更好了
这个 10FP也不错,就是枪管短了点20“
Howa Axiom怎么样?
还没仔细看Rem 700系列
继续研究... |
l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 12 我也曾很关心这个题目,基本上是
爱折腾的上700
不爱折腾的10FCP-K
枪支出厂有多准要看人品 |
T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 13 Rem 700里面有没有类似10FCP-K的model? |
k**********i 发帖数: 8706 | 14 像我一样自己攒吧
拿remington 700 sps varmint 26 inch barrel打底
可以逐步升级
现在我把枪托换成 HS precision了,以后有钱了再上好一点的trigger
你要更好的枪托可以上mcmillan
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Rem 700里面有没有类似10FCP-K的model?
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x*7 发帖数: 11281 | 15
这样弄下来没有千元也有八九百了吧
【在 k**********i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 像我一样自己攒吧 : 拿remington 700 sps varmint 26 inch barrel打底 : 可以逐步升级 : 现在我把枪托换成 HS precision了,以后有钱了再上好一点的trigger : 你要更好的枪托可以上mcmillan
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k**********i 发帖数: 8706 | 16 不是一笔花出去的,肉没有那么疼
【在 x*7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : 这样弄下来没有千元也有八九百了吧
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l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 17 700P is close, though you need to install muzzle brake
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Rem 700里面有没有类似10FCP-K的model?
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T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 18 GB上有700块全新的FCP-K,基本就不用折腾了。。。 |
G****s 发帖数: 3523 | 19 finally you are moving away from wwII
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 手里一堆.22加二战老枪加老毛子的半自动 : .22太easy : Saiga好是好,但是trigger太差,经常有飞弹,要convert,在加州就要加mag lock : mosin 91/30不错,但枪管太薄,多打几枪,group就张开了 : k31子弹太贵,打不多 : M39非常好,但是舍不得打洞装镜子 : 靶场试了朋友的T3很不错,随便打了几枪就是1MOA。不过太轻了,在靶场多打几枪肩膀 : 腮帮子受不 : 了。 : 现在倾向于Savage 10FP in 308警察系列,因为可以自己换枪管。不知道还有什么这个
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x*7 发帖数: 11281 | 20
前些日子,我们这里10FCP-K打折也就 $740
你有03FFL,是不是不用DROS?
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : GB上有700块全新的FCP-K,基本就不用折腾了。。。
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j***n 发帖数: 3786 | 21 oh, yeah~~~ most ppls get bored shooting at 100~300 yards soon or later.
【在 G****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : finally you are moving away from wwII
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k**********i 发帖数: 8706 | 22 700块拿不到吧
308的?
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : GB上有700块全新的FCP-K,基本就不用折腾了。。。
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T******g 发帖数: 21328 | |
T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 24 嗯,原来觉得各种老枪很好奇,而且自己有03FFL,买起来方便。不然加州的手续太繁
琐了。
打多了,觉得需要有一定精确度保证的才能让自己提高,不然一天到晚琢磨打磨枪了,
虽然也很好
玩。。。呵呵
【在 G****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : finally you are moving away from wwII
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j***n 发帖数: 3786 | 25 you will need a better stock with that...
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=191363013
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G****s 发帖数: 3523 | 26 it's probably hard to find longer range. 100yd is way too easy once you have
your new toy. chabot has 200 yds lane but onyl opens friday.
what's your plan?
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嗯,原来觉得各种老枪很好奇,而且自己有03FFL,买起来方便。不然加州的手续太繁 : 琐了。 : 打多了,觉得需要有一定精确度保证的才能让自己提高,不然一天到晚琢磨打磨枪了, : 虽然也很好 : 玩。。。呵呵
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x*7 发帖数: 11281 | 27 嗯,刚把M/N M38出手了,亏了50刀
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嗯,原来觉得各种老枪很好奇,而且自己有03FFL,买起来方便。不然加州的手续太繁 : 琐了。 : 打多了,觉得需要有一定精确度保证的才能让自己提高,不然一天到晚琢磨打磨枪了, : 虽然也很好 : 玩。。。呵呵
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T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 28 yeah, i wish it has a better cheek weld, but accustock seems to be good
for accuracy. maybe i can put a removable cheek weld on top of it...
【在 j***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : you will need a better stock with that...
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G****s 发帖数: 3523 | 29 I wish I can find longer ranges...
【在 j***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : oh, yeah~~~ most ppls get bored shooting at 100~300 yards soon or later.
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T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 30 last time when i pulled trigger and tried to buy a 50 DTC upper, i
asked around on calguns, there seem to be some long distance ranges
around even thought they are not very close. too bad i never got the
delivery of my 50cal. i will dig out my old post again...
you have
【在 G****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : it's probably hard to find longer range. 100yd is way too easy once you have : your new toy. chabot has 200 yds lane but onyl opens friday. : what's your plan?
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l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 31 展开说说怎么弄到的03FFL,能玩消音器?
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嗯,原来觉得各种老枪很好奇,而且自己有03FFL,买起来方便。不然加州的手续太繁 : 琐了。 : 打多了,觉得需要有一定精确度保证的才能让自己提高,不然一天到晚琢磨打磨枪了, : 虽然也很好 : 玩。。。呵呵
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l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 32 要是有自己还托的想法还是直接700,10FCP-K适合我这样的懒人用
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : yeah, i wish it has a better cheek weld, but accustock seems to be good : for accuracy. maybe i can put a removable cheek weld on top of it...
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j***n 发帖数: 3786 | 33 SAC has 1000yards range...
have
【在 G****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : it's probably hard to find longer range. 100yd is way too easy once you have : your new toy. chabot has 200 yds lane but onyl opens friday. : what's your plan?
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l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 34 这个1000 yds range能在1000 yds放target吗?
ASR号称600码,其实最远只让300码放靶子,水分不少。
【在 j***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : SAC has 1000yards range... : : have
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T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 35 这个是C&R,看名字就是只能玩老枪的,呵呵
【在 l***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 展开说说怎么弄到的03FFL,能玩消音器?
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j***n 发帖数: 3786 | 36 no, steel target to 1000yards. why do you want to put paper target at 1000
yards anyway? 300 yards is far enough for paper...
【在 l***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个1000 yds range能在1000 yds放target吗? : ASR号称600码,其实最远只让300码放靶子,水分不少。
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l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 37 喔,是这样。打算上个啥样的镜子?
看过牛仔兄推荐的practial long range shooting,彻底中镜子的毒了,这下好了,一
心琢磨镜子吧 |
l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 38 I would want to put my own steel or paper target and retrieve them later, so
that I can measure MOA and know how I fare. Otherwise, it is just plinking
I am comfortable hitting those large steel target at 200 yds with my 22. Next time we go ASR, I want to hit paper target at 200 yards see what kind of MOA I get. By then, I can decide whether to graduate from 22.
【在 j***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : no, steel target to 1000yards. why do you want to put paper target at 1000 : yards anyway? 300 yards is far enough for paper...
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j***n 发帖数: 3786 | 39 glass will cost more than the gun for sure...
【在 l***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 喔,是这样。打算上个啥样的镜子? : 看过牛仔兄推荐的practial long range shooting,彻底中镜子的毒了,这下好了,一 : 心琢磨镜子吧
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l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 40 and ammo will cost more than glass and gun together
【在 j***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : glass will cost more than the gun for sure...
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l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 41 Oh well, I take the second part back,that was just from the point of view of
pure range.
Still need to work on lots of aspects of marksmanship such as
1. play with zero at various distances and hit target at different distances
2. practice from standing/prone/siting/kneeing position
3...
so
plinking
Next time we go ASR, I want to hit paper target at 200 yards see what kind
of MOA I get. By then, I can decide whether to graduate from 22.
【在 l***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I would want to put my own steel or paper target and retrieve them later, so : that I can measure MOA and know how I fare. Otherwise, it is just plinking : I am comfortable hitting those large steel target at 200 yds with my 22. Next time we go ASR, I want to hit paper target at 200 yards see what kind of MOA I get. By then, I can decide whether to graduate from 22.
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j***n 发帖数: 3786 | 42 then get a 308 first...
of
distances
【在 l***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Oh well, I take the second part back,that was just from the point of view of : pure range. : Still need to work on lots of aspects of marksmanship such as : 1. play with zero at various distances and hit target at different distances : 2. practice from standing/prone/siting/kneeing position : 3... : : so : plinking : Next time we go ASR, I want to hit paper target at 200 yards see what kind
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x*7 发帖数: 11281 | 43 买个野人10FCP-K吧
of
distances
【在 l***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Oh well, I take the second part back,that was just from the point of view of : pure range. : Still need to work on lots of aspects of marksmanship such as : 1. play with zero at various distances and hit target at different distances : 2. practice from standing/prone/siting/kneeing position : 3... : : so : plinking : Next time we go ASR, I want to hit paper target at 200 yards see what kind
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