s*******y 发帖数: 851 | 1 I am new to this field. I want to go hunting with a relativelyt low
maintance, accurate gun. |
s******u 发帖数: 538 | 2 AK和accurate不怎么沾边
AR和low maintenance不对眼
半自动打猎 多数州不合法 |
s*******y 发帖数: 851 | 3 Just find out I can hunt with ak47 in my state. Is AK74 better than ak47? I
am good at diy so I am not afraid with guns. But I am not big fan of gun
also. I just want to go hunting with a relative easy gun.
【在 s******u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : AK和accurate不怎么沾边 : AR和low maintenance不对眼 : 半自动打猎 多数州不合法
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S**********s 发帖数: 4534 | 4 if you want an accurate, reliable, light weight and low maintenance rifle,
get a carbine sized bolt action. less parts, easy to field strip.
try a CZ or something. |
g****r 发帖数: 1607 | 5 军用步枪是打人的,打猎不成,不准也不够威力。
打猎还是搞个栓动的。
ak47? I
【在 s*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Just find out I can hunt with ak47 in my state. Is AK74 better than ak47? I : am good at diy so I am not afraid with guns. But I am not big fan of gun : also. I just want to go hunting with a relative easy gun.
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S**********s 发帖数: 4534 | 6
ak47? I
what are you going to hunt anyway?
different games require different caliber
【在 s*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Just find out I can hunt with ak47 in my state. Is AK74 better than ak47? I : am good at diy so I am not afraid with guns. But I am not big fan of gun : also. I just want to go hunting with a relative easy gun.
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f*********n 发帖数: 11154 | |
x*7 发帖数: 11281 | 8 貌似很多猎人对用军枪狩猎颇有微词,
觉得那不是hunting
【在 S**********s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : ak47? I : what are you going to hunt anyway? : different games require different caliber
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M*******n 发帖数: 1165 | 9 很多军用子弹不expand,杀不死猎物,还要找打猎用子弹 |
C*******d 发帖数: 15836 | 10 弓猎手看着拿拴动高倍放大镜的笑了。。。
【在 x*7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 貌似很多猎人对用军枪狩猎颇有微词, : 觉得那不是hunting
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s*******y 发帖数: 851 | 11 Deer.
【在 S**********s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : ak47? I : what are you going to hunt anyway? : different games require different caliber
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s*******y 发帖数: 851 | 12 I see. So I should better stick with a shotgun for hunting, and ak or ar for
2012.
【在 M*******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 很多军用子弹不expand,杀不死猎物,还要找打猎用子弹
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T*R 发帖数: 25894 | 13 Not necessarily. There are plenty of soft point ammo for ak-47. buy a box
and you are set for a long long time.
for
【在 s*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I see. So I should better stick with a shotgun for hunting, and ak or ar for : 2012.
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s*******y 发帖数: 851 | 14 Thanks. Great sites.
【在 f*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 俄系枪去这两个网站瞧瞧有没有你想要的deal: : http://www.classicarms.us/ : http://www.aimsurplus.com/catalog.aspx?groupid=11&name=New+Long : 不过打猎,精准的拴动选择太多,何必去找个更适合作为靶枪或者烧子弹用的半自动。
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C*******d 发帖数: 15836 | 15 POL-TANTAL-AK AK74, $389.95 on http://www.classicarms.us/ looks great to me.
【在 s*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Thanks. Great sites.
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T*R 发帖数: 25894 | 16 reviews online is bad for this one.
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : POL-TANTAL-AK AK74, $389.95 on http://www.classicarms.us/ looks great to me.
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s*******y 发帖数: 851 | 17 It will be even better if I can find one from china.
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : reviews online is bad for this one.
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C*******d 发帖数: 15836 | 18 谢谢指出!哇,这个太出乎意料了。据我看的评价Polish Tantal应该是最好几个之一
的。难道只限AK47?难
道这边组装实在太差了?
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : reviews online is bad for this one.
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q**u 发帖数: 12289 | 19 norinco preban,一千五左右,polytech legend,三千左右
【在 s*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : It will be even better if I can find one from china.
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T*R 发帖数: 25894 | 20 They use US made barrel which is non-chome and wrong size. Don't know about
their ak47
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 谢谢指出!哇,这个太出乎意料了。据我看的评价Polish Tantal应该是最好几个之一 : 的。难道只限AK47?难 : 道这边组装实在太差了?
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C*******d 发帖数: 15836 | 21 Thanks! That really sucks!!
about
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : They use US made barrel which is non-chome and wrong size. Don't know about : their ak47
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T*R 发帖数: 25894 | 22 Are you looking for another one already?
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Thanks! That really sucks!! : : about
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s*******y 发帖数: 851 | 23 So expnesive. I am not a gun collector.
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : norinco preban,一千五左右,polytech legend,三千左右
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q**u 发帖数: 12289 | 24 被阉割过的norinco mak90,五百多;
没被阉割过的norinco mak90,这个比较少见,六七八百甚至更高。
【在 s*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : So expnesive. I am not a gun collector.
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s*******y 发帖数: 851 | 25 500 is reasonable. I will see if I can find one.
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 被阉割过的norinco mak90,五百多; : 没被阉割过的norinco mak90,这个比较少见,六七八百甚至更高。
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S**********s 发帖数: 4534 | 26 Do you have some special feelings for AKs?
to be honest, semi-auto AKs are really novelty guns, unless it's a full auto
and you're about to go on a guerrilla warfare against the feds or something
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if you want to hunt deer, go with a 7.62x39 or .308 carbine bolt action.
7.62x39 can take down a deer with the right ammo (and shooting at the right
place).
so a good hunting rifle would be like a CZ 527 carbine. it's light, easy to
maintain, easy to operate, and dead on operate. ultimately it's only 600
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C*******d 发帖数: 15836 | 27 Not really. I did barrel crown myself but it didn't help with the key hole
problem
at 50 yards. But as you see the problem only occurs about 20% of the time.
Not long
ago, I tried 100 yards with quite good accuracy but couldn't get the target
early
enough before it is covered by new target paper. So I still can not tell
whether
there are key holes at that distance. I read some material online which says
that
5.45x39 are designed not to have the keyhole problem. Some people
experienced this
problem at shorter distance but actually it could cure itself at longer
distance.
So I will have to wait until I can go to range next time to find out.
As far as what I plan to use my AK74 (for short distance between 10 m - ~
150m) I am
very fine with this problem since I got quite reasonable accuracy and
reliability.
My next target will be some long range rifle, but that seems to me to be
much
deeper water and I am not in that a hurry now unless I can not control
myself:)
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Are you looking for another one already?
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h*********r 发帖数: 1943 | 28 Key hole? It reminds me of a manufacturer who used to modify 223 AR bore
barrel on 222 AK74s. These AKs won't stabilize the bullet at all and have
huge key hole problem. |
j***n 发帖数: 3786 | 29 非要用军枪打猎的话用SKS吧,很多国产的SKS就是300左右. |
C*******d 发帖数: 15836 | 30 嗯,这个似乎不是一个非常少发生的问题,因为网上有很多这方面的讨论。
如果刚开始就就偏巨大了估计谁都没办法了。我看到的评论是如果偏的不是太大的话这
种子弹在设计上可以纠
正,如果给更远的距离的话。我到时候检验了再跟大家汇报。
【在 h*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Key hole? It reminds me of a manufacturer who used to modify 223 AR bore : barrel on 222 AK74s. These AKs won't stabilize the bullet at all and have : huge key hole problem.
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