d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 1 1. Daniel Defense M4 Carbine, MK18 - Factory SBR 10.3"
https://danieldefense.com/rifles/daniel-defense-m4-carbine-mk18-factory-sbr.
html
2. BCM NFA SBR 11"
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-M16-A4-AR15-Bravo-Company-ca
3. Noveske upper + stag lower 10.5"
http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id
4. LWRC UICW 8"
I'm leaning toward 1 or 3. 4 is very nice but too expensive.
Any suggestion is welcome. |
m*****8
发帖数: 292 | 2 我是打算搞个Noveske 10.5 的upper装上就行了，因为你买整只的可能要等6个月
，等到FORM APPROVED 人家才发货 |
d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 3 你要是form没有批准家里又有non-NFA AR的话，不能合法买10.5的upper吧。 |
m*****8
发帖数: 292 | 4 不是说UPPER不算FIREARM吗?
this is what I got from internet
"
You do not need to be in possession of a tax stamp in order to have an SBR
upper in your possession. You do need it before you assemble the two into a
functional firearm." |
d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 5 we should be careful. What i heard is that you cannot get a short upper
with abf approval if you have a non-nfa lower. it is not worth going to
jail for this. |
l***1
发帖数: 1500 | 6 Don't act base on what Internet said, you are wrong!
不是说UPPER不算FIREARM吗?this is what I got from internet"You do not need to
be in possession ........
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【在 m*****8 的大作中提到】
: 不是说UPPER不算FIREARM吗?
: this is what I got from internet
: "
: You do not need to be in possession of a tax stamp in order to have an SBR
: upper in your possession. You do need it before you assemble the two into a
: functional firearm."
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m*****8
发帖数: 292 | 7 LOL, and you are saying it on internet...
I will do some more research, but my gut feeling is it's OK as long as you
don't have a lower at home that does not have an upper while you have
another SBR upper lying around.
to
【在 l***1 的大作中提到】
: Don't act base on what Internet said, you are wrong!
:
: 不是说UPPER不算FIREARM吗?this is what I got from internet"You do not need to
: be in possession ........
: ★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs 7.56 - iPad Lite
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l***1
发帖数: 1500 | 8 Good luck!
LOL, and you are saying it on internet...I will do some more research, but
my gut feelin........
★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs 7.56 - iPad Lite
【在 m*****8 的大作中提到】
: LOL, and you are saying it on internet...
: I will do some more research, but my gut feeling is it's OK as long as you
: don't have a lower at home that does not have an upper while you have
: another SBR upper lying around.
:
: to
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j***n
发帖数: 3786 | 9 you can buy short barrel upper anytime; however, if you have a "extra" rifle
lower (without a upper attached) "waiting" for it at home, you will in
trouble when you got caught.
the better way is getting a pistol lower first and use that with your SBR
upper (do NOT buy a stock at the same time). when you get class 3 paper
approved, engrave the lower, buy and install the stock. |
m*****8
发帖数: 292 | 10 Thanks, this makes sense. the key is not to have that
"extra" rifle lower that is "waiting" for the sbr upper at home.
rifle
【在 j***n 的大作中提到】
: you can buy short barrel upper anytime; however, if you have a "extra" rifle
: lower (without a upper attached) "waiting" for it at home, you will in
: trouble when you got caught.
: the better way is getting a pistol lower first and use that with your SBR
: upper (do NOT buy a stock at the same time). when you get class 3 paper
: approved, engrave the lower, buy and install the stock.
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d********e
发帖数: 2221 | |
h*********2
发帖数: 2508 | |
d********e
发帖数: 2221 | |
j***n
发帖数: 3786 | 14 i will get a 11.5" SBR. I like Noveske a lot
【在 d********e 的大作中提到】
: 跑题了，跑题了。
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 15 BCM那个我觉得是给怀旧越战的用的
sbr.
【在 d********e 的大作中提到】
: 1. Daniel Defense M4 Carbine, MK18 - Factory SBR 10.3"
: https://danieldefense.com/rifles/daniel-defense-m4-carbine-mk18-factory-sbr.
: html
: 2. BCM NFA SBR 11"
: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-M16-A4-AR15-Bravo-Company-ca
: 3. Noveske upper + stag lower 10.5"
: http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id
: 4. LWRC UICW 8"
: I'm leaning toward 1 or 3. 4 is very nice but too expensive.
: Any suggestion is welcome.
|
c*****y
发帖数: 5747 | |
d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 17 船长，据说小于10.5寸的管子5.56子弹速度不够。我主要是因为这个原因才想要一个10
.5或者11.5的管子。出于后勤考虑，我希望口径尽可能统一。
你要是进UCIW的话，最好考虑6.8 SPC那个版本。不过UCIW实在是太贵了。daniel
defense和noveske那两个配置价格基本是UCIW的一半。 |
c*****y
发帖数: 5747 | 18 uciw按照诸位师兄建议，已经定了6.8 口径，
不过子弹听说快一块钱一颗了，不靠谱啊！
6.8有降价的可能吗？
还是八成奥巴连任就禁止了？
再请教大伙儿，你们的子弹都是选223还是556哪？
那个牌子？
多谢！
10
【在 d********e 的大作中提到】
: 船长，据说小于10.5寸的管子5.56子弹速度不够。我主要是因为这个原因才想要一个10
: .5或者11.5的管子。出于后勤考虑，我希望口径尽可能统一。
: 你要是进UCIW的话，最好考虑6.8 SPC那个版本。不过UCIW实在是太贵了。daniel
: defense和noveske那两个配置价格基本是UCIW的一半。
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d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 19 恐怕没有可能降价。我舍弃小于10.5的sbr就是为了保持.223口径。
aguila比较便宜。铜壳弹223大约3毛一发。aimsurplus.com前些日子299一千发。现在
没了。 |
H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 20 船长
还是5.56吧
不打猎没必要上6.8
【在 c*****y 的大作中提到】
: uciw按照诸位师兄建议，已经定了6.8 口径，
: 不过子弹听说快一块钱一颗了，不靠谱啊！
: 6.8有降价的可能吗？
: 还是八成奥巴连任就禁止了？
: 再请教大伙儿，你们的子弹都是选223还是556哪？
: 那个牌子？
: 多谢！
:
: 10
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T*****r
发帖数: 225 | 21 I decided on DD mk18, because I own a DD m4 and like the quality of it.
Also, Noveske is still more expensive than DD.
Are you planning to suppress it? |
H******S
发帖数: 6011 | |
d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 23 DD SBR only costs about 1300-1500.
【在 H******S 的大作中提到】
: 用SBR的都是有钱人。鉴定完毕。
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H******S
发帖数: 6011 | 24 不是还得设立trust和交tax stamp吗？
【在 d********e 的大作中提到】
: DD SBR only costs about 1300-1500.
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d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 25 I want to leave the option of suppressor open.
I never had a DI AR-15. How dirty can the inside be, especially in SBR?
【在 T*****r 的大作中提到】
: I decided on DD mk18, because I own a DD m4 and like the quality of it.
: Also, Noveske is still more expensive than DD.
: Are you planning to suppress it?
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d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 26 you don't have to set up a trust. $200 = about 600 rounds of cheap .223
ammo.
【在 H******S 的大作中提到】
: 不是还得设立trust和交tax stamp吗？
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T*****r
发帖数: 225 | 27
Unfortunately I don't have gas piston AR, so I can't really compare. After
500 rounds, took me about an hour to clean it, the longest part was to scrap
off the hardened gunk on the bolt.
What I read is suppressor on a SBR makes it even dirtier.
【在 d********e 的大作中提到】
: I want to leave the option of suppressor open.
: I never had a DI AR-15. How dirty can the inside be, especially in SBR?
|
T*****r
发帖数: 225 | 28
Lucky you! Which state are you in?
【在 d********e 的大作中提到】
: you don't have to set up a trust. $200 = about 600 rounds of cheap .223
: ammo.
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d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 29 suppressor on a SBR is indeed dirtier.
After
scrap
【在 T*****r 的大作中提到】
:
: Lucky you! Which state are you in?
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d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 30 VA
【在 T*****r 的大作中提到】
:
: Lucky you! Which state are you in?
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j***n
发帖数: 3786 | 31 500 rounds, and you spend an hour to clean an AR? dude! you should need max
20mins
After
scrap
【在 T*****r 的大作中提到】
:
: Lucky you! Which state are you in?
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d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 32 清枪本身就是乐趣，哈哈。
max
【在 j***n 的大作中提到】
: 500 rounds, and you spend an hour to clean an AR? dude! you should need max
: 20mins
:
: After
: scrap
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j***n
发帖数: 3786 | 33 这样容易直接把枪给擦没了。。。
【在 d********e 的大作中提到】
: 清枪本身就是乐趣，哈哈。
:
: max
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T*****r
发帖数: 225 | 34 我也不是个要抢特别干净的人，只是自从去年christmas到上个月都没擦，单单刮那个
bolt就花了不少时间啊。
Back to topic. Deltaforce, made up your mind yet? |
d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 35 还没。我有一个14.7" (with permanently attached flash hider)。SBR小于11寸的子
弹速度损失太大。11寸和14.7差别也不是太明显。我现在开始觉得这3.7寸的差别是不
是值得上SBR。 |
