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d***a
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看到最新的分析,警察应该在第一时间冲进去的一个重要原因,是有可能救下受了枪伤
正在流血的人,而这是受过训练的警察都应该知道的。这次警察的应对,实在是无从辩
解。
满营将士皆带甲,却无一人是男儿。
http://www.cnn.com/2022/05/29/us/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting-sunday/index.html

“The devastating injuries that many of those kids sustained, there's no
doubt some of those children bled to death while waiting for police to make
entry," said CNN Law Enforcement Analyst Charles Ramsey, a former
Philadelphia police commissioner.
"There's just no question in my mind that probably took place," Ramsey said
Sunday. "There's no way you can justify that."

In active shooter situations, all law enforcement officers in Texas are
trained to move in and confront the attacker, according to the active
shooter guidelines in the state's commission on law enforcement 2020
training manual.
"As first responders we must recognize that innocent life must be defended,"
the manual says. "A first responder unwilling to place the lives of the
innocent above their own safety should consider another career field."
Those guidelines apparently weren't followed in Uvalde.
L*******t
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这些武装警察不是不敢冲,是收到现场当时的总指挥的约束,Uvalde ISD警局局长不让
冲一开始。
https://nypost.com/2022/05/28/uvalde-school-police-chief-pete-arredondo-is-a
-coward-neighbor/

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【在 d***a 的大作中提到】
: 看到最新的分析,警察应该在第一时间冲进去的一个重要原因,是有可能救下受了枪伤
: 正在流血的人,而这是受过训练的警察都应该知道的。这次警察的应对,实在是无从辩
: 解。
: 满营将士皆带甲,却无一人是男儿。
: http://www.cnn.com/2022/05/29/us/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting-sunday/index.html
: …
: “The devastating injuries that many of those kids sustained, there's no
: doubt some of those children bled to death while waiting for police to make
: entry," said CNN Law Enforcement Analyst Charles Ramsey, a former
: Philadelphia police commissioner.

d***a
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现在有了更多的报道。按这位老师的述叙,如果警察当时能立即行动,恐怕能救下一半
的人。他本人被击中两枪,流着血躺了一个小时后还能活下来,也是命大啊。
http://abcnews.go.com/US/News/act-asleep-wounded-uvalde-teacher-recounts-chilling-moment/story?id=85217589
An elementary school teacher wounded in the second-most deadly school
shooting in U.S. history in Uvalde, Texas, described the chilling moments he
first encountered a gunman who would take the lives of 19 students and two
teachers.

After Reyes told the children to get under the table, he turned around and
saw the gunman standing there.
Ramos then almost immediately opened fire on the classroom, Reyes said.
Reyes said he was shot twice. One bullet went through an arm and lung, and
another bullet hit him in the back.
As Reyes lay incapacitated, Ramos turned his AR-15 style rifle, bought days
after his 18th birthday, onto the young children-- mostly third and fourth
graders.
Reyes then heard police officers outside the classroom as a child in the
next room called for help, he said, adding that he believes the officers had
walked away at that point, having not heard the pleas.
"One of the students from the next-door classroom was saying, 'Officer, we'
re in here. We're in here,'" Reyes said. "But they had already left."
The gunman then got up from behind Reyes' desk in Room 111 and began
shooting again in Room 112, Reyes said.
The next time Reyes heard officers, they were telling Ramos to come out --
that they just wanted to talk and were not going to hurt him, Reyes said.
d***a
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更新的报道。这真的是让人无法理解。
http://finance.sina.com.cn/jjxw/2022-06-22/doc-imizmscu8131250.shtml
美得州官方认定小学枪击案与警方失职脱不了干系
从《纽约时报》和美国哥伦比亚广播公司网站的报道来看,麦克劳透露说,当时负责处
置这起枪击案的得州尤瓦尔迪警方明明在枪手闯入学校教学楼三分钟后就赶到了楼里,
而且警察手上是配备了步枪等武器的,可他们却自以为是地以为枪手把教室的门锁上了
,于是便在教室门口傻等了近乎一个小时,任由枪手在教室内开枪屠杀年幼的孩子们。
这期间枪手至少在教室内开了6枪。
更荒诞的是,经过调查,当局发现教室的门其实是无法从里面反锁的,可案发时警方却
连尝试开门的动作都没有。
“为什么不试一下看看门有没有锁上呢?”,麦克劳在得州议会参议院出席关于此案的
听证会时说道,“我不管你当时是穿着拖鞋还是短裤,你需要冲进去”。
麦克劳还表示尤瓦尔迪警方显然缺乏足够的训练,称警方除了不该傻等着有人“开门”
,也不该等待防爆盾和特警小队来支援后再行动,这种应对方案违背了警方自1999年科
罗拉多州科伦拜中学枪击案以来总结的经验教训。
“你们不需要等待特警小队,只要有一个警察,就足够了”,他说,“警察有武器,可
孩子们没有,警察有防弹衣,可孩子们没有”。
麦克劳认为现场指挥官存在重大失职,称是这名指挥官在阻碍警方冲入教师中救人,因
为他将警察的命看得比危难之中的孩子的性命更重。
另外,麦克劳还表示当时现场警方的通讯系统也存在问题,在教学楼里无法工作,警方
当时处置案件时使用的一些资料也是错误的。而关注此案的美国媒体还发现当地警方在
对媒体通报案情时存在撒谎的问题,很多说法都前后有不一致。比如当地警方一开始宣
称枪手能进入学校教学楼是因为有教师开了教学楼的侧门忘了关,但后来的调查又显示
并不存在这个情况。
“这直接导致警察工作的专业性倒退了10年前,”麦克劳说道。
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