b*******g
发帖数: 36 | 1 听说public charge 正式生效了。移民局有份公开的文件 https://s3.amazonaws.com
/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2019-17142.pdf ),
其中第1面提到
"Finally, this rule includes a requirement that aliens seeking an extension
of stay or change of status demonstrate that they have not, since obtaining
the nonimmigrant status they seek to extend or change, received public
benefits over the designated threshold, as defined in this rule."
第16面提到 "Additionally, this rule contains additional provisions that will
render certain nonimmigrants ineligible for extension of stay or change of
status if she or he received one or more public benefits for more than 12
months in the aggregate within any 36-month period since obtaining the
status he or she wishes to extend or change."
本人多年前是F1学生，老婆F2陪读，期间老婆陆续生了两个娃. 那时候一贫如洗，学费
生活费勉强靠奖学金支付，没有多余的钱给老婆买孕妇医疗保险，只能向政府申请了
Medicare aid , 3年中总共时间可能超过12个月了。更麻烦的是，那时候本人是以
household owner的名义填的申请表，于是政府工作人员糊里糊涂把本人名字也列在受
益人上面； 其实本人当时有学生医疗保险，本人并未用过Medicare aid， 当年也没太
在意。
本人以opt 工作后转成了O1, 又申请了EB-1B 140获批，处在排期中等待提交485. 485
是change of status . 本人注意到这个public charge 的more than 12 months in
the aggregate within any 36-month period 是从 since obtaining the status he
or she wishes to extend or change 算起的。 那么本人目前是O1, 想用485 来
change of status ，是不是之前F1 申请的Medicare aid 就不算public charge 了？
恳请大牛们解答. | r*x
发帖数: 411 | 2 不溯及以往
https://www.uscis.gov/i-485
USCIS will not consider, and applicants for adjustment of status do not need
to report, the application for, certification or approval to receive, or
receipt of certain previously excluded non-cash public benefits (such as
SNAP, most forms of Medicaid, and public housing) before Feb. 24, 2020. | f*******n
发帖数: 12623 | 3 medicare是给老人的。你说的是medicaid。没有绿卡的人可以拿到的medicaid都不算在
public charge rule里。没有绿卡的人可以拿到的medicaid要么是emergency medicaid
，要么是某些州用自己钱（给孕妇或26岁以下孩子）的medicaid。这两个都不算public
charge rule里的public benefit定义里。 | b*******g
发帖数: 36 | 4
medicaid
public
谢谢 不过不知道哪里有官方说明
【在 f*******n 的大作中提到】
: medicare是给老人的。你说的是medicaid。没有绿卡的人可以拿到的medicaid都不算在
: public charge rule里。没有绿卡的人可以拿到的medicaid要么是emergency medicaid
: ，要么是某些州用自己钱（给孕妇或26岁以下孩子）的medicaid。这两个都不算public
: charge rule里的public benefit定义里。
| b*******g
发帖数: 36 | 5 谢谢！ 这个官方说明很好，如果是官方pdf文件就更好了
依然想弄清楚，根据这句话
one or more public benefits for more than 12
months in the aggregate within any 36-month period since obtaining the
status he or she wishes to extend or change."
目前是O1,通过485来转绿卡，是不是之前的F1申请的Medicare aid 就不算public
charge 了？
need
【在 r*x 的大作中提到】
: 不溯及以往
: https://www.uscis.gov/i-485
: USCIS will not consider, and applicants for adjustment of status do not need
: to report, the application for, certification or approval to receive, or
: receipt of certain previously excluded non-cash public benefits (such as
: SNAP, most forms of Medicaid, and public housing) before Feb. 24, 2020.
| y********8
发帖数: 7 | 6 孕妇和未满21岁的外国人使用Medicaid不算public charge，USCIS有官方说明：
DHS will not consider the Medicaid benefits received:
For the treatment of an “emergency medical condition;”
As services or benefits provided in connection with the Individuals with
Disabilities Education Act;
As school-based services or benefits provided to individuals who are at or
below the oldest age eligible for secondary education as determined under
state or local law;
By aliens under the age of 21; and
By pregnant women and by women within the 60-day period beginning on the
last day of the pregnancy.
https://www.uscis.gov/news/fact-sheets/public-charge-fact-sheet | b*******g
发帖数: 36 | 7 谢谢！我知道老婆孩子不算public charge, 但是对于我自己算不算public charge?
我主要想弄清楚，根据这句话
one or more public benefits for more than 12
months in the aggregate within any 36-month period since obtaining the
status he or she wishes to extend or change."
目前是O1,通过485来转绿卡，是不是之前的F1申请的Medicare aid 就不算public
charge 了？
【在 y********8 的大作中提到】
: 孕妇和未满21岁的外国人使用Medicaid不算public charge，USCIS有官方说明：
: DHS will not consider the Medicaid benefits received:
: For the treatment of an “emergency medical condition;”
: As services or benefits provided in connection with the Individuals with
: Disabilities Education Act;
: As school-based services or benefits provided to individuals who are at or
: below the oldest age eligible for secondary education as determined under
: state or local law;
: By aliens under the age of 21; and
: By pregnant women and by women within the 60-day period beginning on the
| x****2
发帖数: 421 | 8 我觉得版副说的已经非常清楚了啊？不追溯以往的。你那个情况算还是不算，没有区别
的啊？
【在 b*******g 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢！我知道老婆孩子不算public charge, 但是对于我自己算不算public charge?
: 我主要想弄清楚，根据这句话
: one or more public benefits for more than 12
: months in the aggregate within any 36-month period since obtaining the
: status he or she wishes to extend or change."
: 目前是O1,通过485来转绿卡，是不是之前的F1申请的Medicare aid 就不算public
: charge 了？
| f*******n
发帖数: 12623 | 9 emergency medicaid、孕妇用的medicaid、和21岁以下用的medicaid不算：
https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-g-chapter-10#S-B-2
USCIS does not consider the following Medicaid benefits for purposes of the
public charge inadmissibility determination:
* Benefits paid for an emergency medical condition;
...
* Benefits received by an applicant under the age of 21; and
* Benefits received by a pregnant applicant, including the period during the
pregnancy and 60 days after the end of the pregnancy.
州自己出钱的medicaid不算：
https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-g-chapter-10#S-A-1
However, a state medical insurance program, funded exclusively by the state,
is not included in the definition of public benefit and is not considered
as a public benefit in the public charge inadmissibility determination.
For example, some Medi-Cal services are provided to aliens under a state-
only authority at no expense to the federal government.
If Medi-Cal is provided to the alien under a state-only authority at no
expense to the federal government, it is not considered in the public charge
inadmissibility determination.
To the extent that states give the same name to their Federal Medicaid
program and the state-only funded health insurance program, aliens are not
required to report the receipt of the state-only funded health insurance.
However, if Medicaid is listed on the Form I-944 as a received public
benefit receipt, it is the burden of the applicant to provide information
and documentation that the health insurance is state funded only. USCIS
assumes that any Medicaid identified on the Form I-944 is federally-funded
Medicaid.
你作为没有绿卡的人不可能拿到其他的medicaid。
2020年2月24号之前拿到的medicaid不算：
https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-g-chapter-9#S-A-8
Public Benefits Received Before February 24, 2020
USCIS does not consider public benefits that were previously excluded under
the 1999 Interim Field Guidance (PDF), if received before February 24, 2020.
...
Consideration of Benefits Received Before and After February 24, 2020
Benefits excluded under the 1999 Interim Field Guidance
Example: SNAP, Housing Programs, Medicaid (generally)
x
Benefits received before February 24, 2020
-> Not considered
【在 b*******g 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢！我知道老婆孩子不算public charge, 但是对于我自己算不算public charge?
: 我主要想弄清楚，根据这句话
: one or more public benefits for more than 12
: months in the aggregate within any 36-month period since obtaining the
: status he or she wishes to extend or change."
: 目前是O1,通过485来转绿卡，是不是之前的F1申请的Medicare aid 就不算public
: charge 了？
| b*******g
发帖数: 36 | 10 谢谢！
the
the
【在 f*******n 的大作中提到】
: emergency medicaid、孕妇用的medicaid、和21岁以下用的medicaid不算：
: https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-g-chapter-10#S-B-2
: USCIS does not consider the following Medicaid benefits for purposes of the
: public charge inadmissibility determination:
: * Benefits paid for an emergency medical condition;
: ...
: * Benefits received by an applicant under the age of 21; and
: * Benefits received by a pregnant applicant, including the period during the
: pregnancy and 60 days after the end of the pregnancy.
: 州自己出钱的medicaid不算：
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