h**k
发帖数: 662 | 1 感觉用java 产生界面应该不是很强大把，怎么跟直接用javascript比那？跟其他
framework容易结合吗。 |
g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 2 控件有限，跟其他framework不容易结合。
【在 h**k 的大作中提到】
: 感觉用java 产生界面应该不是很强大把，怎么跟直接用javascript比那？跟其他
: framework容易结合吗。
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s******n
发帖数: 876 | 3 好象google最关心的是cross-browser comparability.
用户群太大，nitch browser market对她们来说也不是个
可以忽略的小数目.
另外的可能性是他们闲人太多，没事找事。
【在 h**k 的大作中提到】
: 感觉用java 产生界面应该不是很强大把，怎么跟直接用javascript比那？跟其他
: framework容易结合吗。
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m******t
发帖数: 2416 | 4
I did an application with gwt a while ago. It was much
better experience than I had anticipated, actually.
It was quite pleasant and productive to be able to write
everything in java and in eclipse.
The caveat, of course, is that google will own your
rear end. The vendor lock-in is next to impossible to
get away from. If you are comfortable with that, gwt
is great to work with.
【在 h**k 的大作中提到】
: 感觉用java 产生界面应该不是很强大把，怎么跟直接用javascript比那？跟其他
: framework容易结合吗。
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k***r
发帖数: 4260 | 5 Just to be exact - they will own your "front-end" in
this particular case :-)
There is a Python project that works in a similar way
but is open source.
【在 m******t 的大作中提到】
:
: I did an application with gwt a while ago. It was much
: better experience than I had anticipated, actually.
: It was quite pleasant and productive to be able to write
: everything in java and in eclipse.
: The caveat, of course, is that google will own your
: rear end. The vendor lock-in is next to impossible to
: get away from. If you are comfortable with that, gwt
: is great to work with.
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h**k
发帖数: 662 | 6 how easy to use Spring Mvc or Struts to handle server part with GWT do front
end? |
c*****t
发帖数: 1879 | 7 What's the point of using Python? Really odd.
Using Java because you can take advantage of static compiling,
refactoring etc.
【在 k***r 的大作中提到】
: Just to be exact - they will own your "front-end" in
: this particular case :-)
: There is a Python project that works in a similar way
: but is open source.
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k***r
发帖数: 4260 | 8 Python has a great deal of advantages over Javascript.
【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
: What's the point of using Python? Really odd.
: Using Java because you can take advantage of static compiling,
: refactoring etc.
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c*****t
发帖数: 1879 | 9 Like?
JS is not a toy language by itself.
【在 k***r 的大作中提到】
: Python has a great deal of advantages over Javascript.
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k***r
发帖数: 4260 | 10 I'm sure it's not :-) but it's messy, in a lot of people's eyes.
Part of the benefit of using GWT is that you can write JS in a
language that you like better than you do JS. Being able to
use Java's compile time check is nice. Even without this, I'd
pick Python over JS any day.
And of course this package (pyjamas) is open source.
Core component in GWT is not.
【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
: Like?
: JS is not a toy language by itself.
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m******t
发帖数: 2416 | 11 I really don't think js is inherently (that is by language design)
more "mess-prone" than python or any other dynamically
typed languages. I have seen both very well readable js code
and messy python code.
The bad reputation of js probably came from the fact taht
for a very long time it's the only choice to do anything even
remotely fancy on the client-side, so every html author
used it. And unfortunately most of them never received
enough programming training to produce proper
code.
【在 k***r 的大作中提到】
: I'm sure it's not :-) but it's messy, in a lot of people's eyes.
: Part of the benefit of using GWT is that you can write JS in a
: language that you like better than you do JS. Being able to
: use Java's compile time check is nice. Even without this, I'd
: pick Python over JS any day.
: And of course this package (pyjamas) is open source.
: Core component in GWT is not.
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 12 And the cross browsing issue never helped.
In short, browser should take a more intelligent, more
strict language than html and js. An extensible xml format
with rich components will be nice. HTML5 is in that direction,
but we have to stick to what we have now.
【在 m******t 的大作中提到】
: I really don't think js is inherently (that is by language design)
: more "mess-prone" than python or any other dynamically
: typed languages. I have seen both very well readable js code
: and messy python code.
: The bad reputation of js probably came from the fact taht
: for a very long time it's the only choice to do anything even
: remotely fancy on the client-side, so every html author
: used it. And unfortunately most of them never received
: enough programming training to produce proper
: code.
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k***r
发帖数: 4260 | 13 A great part of the problem is the tolerance of the browsers
to poorly written buggy js. This makes it impossible, or at
least very difficult to tell what's right or wrong in html/js.
What makes it worse is that different browsers have different
ways of rendering html/js with bugs/errors. This is a great
part of the whole browser compatibility problem.
And the strategy is to avoid fiddling with JS. Instead, code
in a different language (be it Java or Python or Perl, etc.)
and generate well-teste
【在 m******t 的大作中提到】
: I really don't think js is inherently (that is by language design)
: more "mess-prone" than python or any other dynamically
: typed languages. I have seen both very well readable js code
: and messy python code.
: The bad reputation of js probably came from the fact taht
: for a very long time it's the only choice to do anything even
: remotely fancy on the client-side, so every html author
: used it. And unfortunately most of them never received
: enough programming training to produce proper
: code.
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b******y
发帖数: 1684 | 14 最近项目里面front end跟不上，只好去跟着弄了一下js, jquery什么的，
很没劲啊。
【在 k***r 的大作中提到】
: A great part of the problem is the tolerance of the browsers
: to poorly written buggy js. This makes it impossible, or at
: least very difficult to tell what's right or wrong in html/js.
: What makes it worse is that different browsers have different
: ways of rendering html/js with bugs/errors. This is a great
: part of the whole browser compatibility problem.
: And the strategy is to avoid fiddling with JS. Instead, code
: in a different language (be it Java or Python or Perl, etc.)
: and generate well-teste
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F****n
发帖数: 3271 | 15 Believe it or not, front end is always the hard part.
【在 b******y 的大作中提到】
: 最近项目里面front end跟不上，只好去跟着弄了一下js, jquery什么的，
: 很没劲啊。
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 16 Depends on what kind of website, the more users you have,
the more complicate backend will be.
【在 F****n 的大作中提到】
: Believe it or not, front end is always the hard part.
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I*******o
发帖数: 53 | 17 sigh...
what are the leading/major front technology now? js?
【在 F****n 的大作中提到】
: Believe it or not, front end is always the hard part.
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A**o
发帖数: 1550 | 18 flex like?
【在 I*******o 的大作中提到】
: sigh...
: what are the leading/major front technology now? js?
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