S*********g
发帖数: 24893 | 1 著名生物学家蒲慕明先生给本组所有成员的一封邮件,文中的Florian Engert现在
是哈佛的正教授。
http://www.mcb.harvard.edu/mcb/faculty/profile/florian-engert/
Lab members:
Over the past several months, it has become clear to me that if there is no
drastic change in the lab, Poo lab will soon cease to be a productive, first
-rate lab that you chose to join in the first place. Lab progress reports
over the past six months have clearly shown the lack of progress in most
projects.
One year ago, when we first moved to Berkeley, I expressed clearly to
everyone my expectation from each one in the lab. The most important thing
is what I consider to be sufficient amount of time and effort in the lab
work. I mentioned that about 60 hr working time per week is what I consider
the minimal time an average successful young scientist in these days has to
put into the lab work.
There may be a few rare lucky fellows like Florian, who had two Nature
papers in his sleeve already, can enjoy life for a while and still get a job
offer from Harvard. Nobody else in the lab has Florian's luxury to play
around. Thus I am imposing strict rules in the lab from now on:
Everyone works at least 50 hr a week in the lab（e.g.8+ hr a day, six days a
week）. This is by far lower than what I am doing every day and throughout
most of my career. You may be smarter or do not want to be successful, but I
am not asking you to match my time in the lab.
By working, I mean real bench work. This does not include surfing on the
computer and sending and receiving e-mails for non-scientific matters
unrelated to your work（you can do this after work in the lab or at home,
and excessive chatting on nonscientific matters. No long lunch break except
special occasions. I suggest that everyone puts in at least 6 hr
concentrated bench work and 2+ hr reading and other research-related
activity each day. Reading papers and books should be done mostly after work
. More time can be spent on reading, literature search and writing during
working hours when you are ready for writing a paper.
I must be informeded in person by e-mail（even in my absence from the lab）
when you are absent from the lab for a whole day or more. Inform me early
your vacation plan. Taking more than 20 working days out of one year is the
maximum to me. In fact, none of you are reporting any vacation and sick
leave on your time sheet（against the university rule, although I have been
signing the sheets）, but you know roughly how many days you were not here.
On the whole, I understand and accept the fact that you may not fulfill the
above requirements all the time, due to health reasons, occasional personal
business. But if you do not like to follow the rules because it is simply a
matter of choice of life style, I respect your choice but suggest you start
making plans immediately and leave the lab by the end of January 31. I will
do my best to help you to locate a lab to transfer or to find a job. If you
do accept the conditions I describe above, I am happy to continue to provide
my best support to your work, hopefully more than I have done in the past.
I will review the progress of everyone in the lab by the end of June of 2002
. I expect everyone to have made sufficient progress in the research so that
a good paper is in sight（at least to the level of J.Neuroscience. If you
cannot meet this goal at that time, I will have to ask you to prepare to
leave my lab by the end of August.
As a scientist, you must dedicate everything to this business 8-hour is
unpractical. There is NO way for a scientist or a Ph.D student to work only
8 hours a day!
Go to your mother’s house for afternoon naps and never come back!
5 weeks per year (Chinese New Year, the May Day and the National Day breaks
are included)
Start your morning work not later than 8:30 am and afternoon work no later
than 1 pm
Surf over the Internet for non-scientific purposes should be less than 30
min a day
Reading newspapers should be limited less than 30 min a day
Novels or other non-scientific journals/magazines are not permitted in the
lab and office
If you are absent from the lab more than one hour, get permission first.
Everyone has personal business, but the lab business always has priority
unless in emergency
In this business, an“average”student who works seven days a week is
definitely more productive than a“genius”who works five days a week
If you are able to make any major progresses by working 8 hours a day and 5
days a week, every fortunate in this world must be on your side!
施一公对此表示同意，而且认为下限应该加到60小时/周。
据观察，不论国内外的，只要做实验，每周60小时应该是下限。 |
H********g
发帖数: 43926 | 2 似乎有几十年历史了。他自己愿意一周60小时是他的事情，别人没有必要跟他一样。 |
d****o
发帖数: 32610 | 3 现在一般多久啊？
其实phd一周六十小时倒也说得过去
【在 H********g 的大作中提到】
: 似乎有几十年历史了。他自己愿意一周60小时是他的事情，别人没有必要跟他一样。
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n****4
发帖数: 12553 | 4 这行竞争太激烈了
no
first
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 著名生物学家蒲慕明先生给本组所有成员的一封邮件,文中的Florian Engert现在
: 是哈佛的正教授。
: http://www.mcb.harvard.edu/mcb/faculty/profile/florian-engert/
: Lab members:
: Over the past several months, it has become clear to me that if there is no
: drastic change in the lab, Poo lab will soon cease to be a productive, first
: -rate lab that you chose to join in the first place. Lab progress reports
: over the past six months have clearly shown the lack of progress in most
: projects.
: One year ago, when we first moved to Berkeley, I expressed clearly to
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d********f
发帖数: 43471 | 5 60小时就叫hard working了？我们都是一周100小时阿
【在 H********g 的大作中提到】
: 似乎有几十年历史了。他自己愿意一周60小时是他的事情，别人没有必要跟他一样。
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H********g
发帖数: 43926 | 6 我见过的成功人士大多是工作8-9小时，一周5-6天的。
【在 d****o 的大作中提到】
: 现在一般多久啊？
: 其实phd一周六十小时倒也说得过去
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d****o
发帖数: 32610 | 7 十四寸做功的时间不算在hard working里
【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 60小时就叫hard working了？我们都是一周100小时阿
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H********g
发帖数: 43926 | 8 自愿的话一周112小时也行。
【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 60小时就叫hard working了？我们都是一周100小时阿
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d****o
发帖数: 32610 | 9 说的是纯做实验还是连灌水什么一起算？
【在 H********g 的大作中提到】
: 我见过的成功人士大多是工作8-9小时，一周5-6天的。
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H********g
发帖数: 43926 | 10 那就不知道了。人家都成功人士了估计以阅读写作为主。
【在 d****o 的大作中提到】
: 说的是纯做实验还是连灌水什么一起算？
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d********f
发帖数: 43471 | 11 没啥自愿的，就是说60小时真心不算啥，没b的日子多的就是时间不是么
【在 H********g 的大作中提到】
: 自愿的话一周112小时也行。
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H********g
发帖数: 43926 | 12 小电影也多啊
【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 没啥自愿的，就是说60小时真心不算啥，没b的日子多的就是时间不是么
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b*****e
发帖数: 53215 | 13 没b还可以打游戏嘛
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 1.0.1
【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 没啥自愿的，就是说60小时真心不算啥，没b的日子多的就是时间不是么
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d********f
发帖数: 43471 | 14 在试验室看小电影不是更刺激么，还省网费
【在 H********g 的大作中提到】
: 小电影也多啊
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p*e
发帖数: 6785 | 15 上上下下左右左右ba
【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 没啥自愿的，就是说60小时真心不算啥，没b的日子多的就是时间不是么
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r***e
发帖数: 10135 | 16 10年前的段子了吧
no
first
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 著名生物学家蒲慕明先生给本组所有成员的一封邮件,文中的Florian Engert现在
: 是哈佛的正教授。
: http://www.mcb.harvard.edu/mcb/faculty/profile/florian-engert/
: Lab members:
: Over the past several months, it has become clear to me that if there is no
: drastic change in the lab, Poo lab will soon cease to be a productive, first
: -rate lab that you chose to join in the first place. Lab progress reports
: over the past six months have clearly shown the lack of progress in most
: projects.
: One year ago, when we first moved to Berkeley, I expressed clearly to
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H********g
发帖数: 43926 | 17 ba
【在 p*e 的大作中提到】
: 上上下下左右左右ba
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