s********n
发帖数: 4346 | 1 I love Hubway, the city bike share system. I love the idea that you can get
a bike almost everywhere and not responsible for its safety. Since I lost
my bike, i am scared of buying a new one. This system is great.
Do you know America started to flirt with bikes? They are still in love with
cars mostly. But there is 6% of the population commuting by bikes, in
comparison with 33% in northern Europe. This depends on the road conditions,
bike lane, safety, etc. But it is a good trend. Hope biking will be
developed further. |
T*******k
发帖数: 2046 | 2 这个系统也是学欧洲的，跟布鲁塞尔那边一模一样
get
lost
with
conditions,
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: I love Hubway, the city bike share system. I love the idea that you can get
: a bike almost everywhere and not responsible for its safety. Since I lost
: my bike, i am scared of buying a new one. This system is great.
: Do you know America started to flirt with bikes? They are still in love with
: cars mostly. But there is 6% of the population commuting by bikes, in
: comparison with 33% in northern Europe. This depends on the road conditions,
: bike lane, safety, etc. But it is a good trend. Hope biking will be
: developed further.
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s********n
发帖数: 4346 | 3 我喜欢的原因是我们学校有打折，竟然价钱是外头的三分之一， 太好了。
【在 T*******k 的大作中提到】
: 这个系统也是学欧洲的，跟布鲁塞尔那边一模一样
:
: get
: lost
: with
: conditions,
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e*******e
发帖数: 6165 | 4 即便有bike lane，騎車還是挺危險的。。。 |
s********n
发帖数: 4346 | 5 That is true. I usually bike along the pedestrian lane when I cross a
bridge, where the car is speeding like crazy.
【在 e*******e 的大作中提到】
: 即便有bike lane，騎車還是挺危險的。。。
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s********n
发帖数: 4346 | 6 The real revolution for American cities will be to block certain area for
cars and reserve for biking and walking. I am not sure whether it is
possible. In my city, they block certain parts of the road for Sunday.
【在 e*******e 的大作中提到】
: 即便有bike lane，騎車還是挺危險的。。。
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e*******e
发帖数: 6165 | 7 而且即使有bike lane，大多数车开过的时候，只要对面没车，还是会远远的让开，划
一个左括号绕过去。 最怕是在崎岖山路上骑车的，路窄，对面有没车也看不见。虽然
我车的车牌也选了一个支持biker的，但是遇到这种骑车挡路的，仍然会心里抱怨一下
。。。 |
s********n
发帖数: 4346 | 8 I know. But what do you wish as a driver for the bikers? I guess everyone
should take biking safely class.
【在 e*******e 的大作中提到】
: 而且即使有bike lane，大多数车开过的时候，只要对面没车，还是会远远的让开，划
: 一个左括号绕过去。 最怕是在崎岖山路上骑车的，路窄，对面有没车也看不见。虽然
: 我车的车牌也选了一个支持biker的，但是遇到这种骑车挡路的，仍然会心里抱怨一下
: 。。。
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e*******e
发帖数: 6165 | 9 我是真替他们担心呀。。。在城市里骑其实还好点，就怕半郊区的，车速快。。。
有一次去动物园，那边也是山路，一家四口都骑车，路上有青苔，小儿子（5，6）岁的
样子，啪的就摔倒了，还好路比较宽，要不车都来不及让啊，真是让人看着捏把汗。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: I know. But what do you wish as a driver for the bikers? I guess everyone
: should take biking safely class.
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s********n
发帖数: 4346 | 10 yes. biking doesn't requires a license. So people are not so aware of
traffic rules.
【在 e*******e 的大作中提到】
: 我是真替他们担心呀。。。在城市里骑其实还好点，就怕半郊区的，车速快。。。
: 有一次去动物园，那边也是山路，一家四口都骑车，路上有青苔，小儿子（5，6）岁的
: 样子，啪的就摔倒了，还好路比较宽，要不车都来不及让啊，真是让人看着捏把汗。
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C*F
发帖数: 91 | 11 Just read this.
See which asshole/s you can relate to.
I'm an asshole biker in a bike-friendly city.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/0 |
L**********y
发帖数: 2525 | 12 美国人民的生活方式真浪费。
以下发散。
军版有人贴过希腊和德国的退休年龄，差好多。
上周看一文章采访日本某网站的创办人，号称日本的amazon。他们公司不雇清洁工，每
天下班以后大家自己动手，收拾干净。
几个月以前business week有个帖子，西班牙青年失业率在20%以上。现在已经50%以上
了。但是几个月前的文章里提到，西班牙华人移民的失业率很低，不记得具体数字，远
远低于20%。
资本家确实吸血，而发达国家的工人阶级也确实比以前要娇生惯养。到底其他国家的工
人阶级也变得娇生惯养起来是历史的必然趋势呢，还是发达国家的工人阶级变得勤劳肯
干才是？还是资本家被威慑让出更多利益来才是？
【在 T*******k 的大作中提到】
: 这个系统也是学欧洲的，跟布鲁塞尔那边一模一样
:
: get
: lost
: with
: conditions,
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r****a
发帖数: 1350 | 13
意大利几个主要城市都有
【在 T*******k 的大作中提到】
: 这个系统也是学欧洲的，跟布鲁塞尔那边一模一样
:
: get
: lost
: with
: conditions,
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a*****y
发帖数: 979 | 14 记得以前看过一篇文章讲spain的shadow economy。很多family business, small
business都不在book上，所以才有那么高的失业率，其实没那么多
不是天天刷卡上班才算是工作吧。我经常幻想自己要是个小报童之类的生活会不会快乐
很多－－这是关于发散的发散
【在 L**********y 的大作中提到】
: 美国人民的生活方式真浪费。
: 以下发散。
: 军版有人贴过希腊和德国的退休年龄，差好多。
: 上周看一文章采访日本某网站的创办人，号称日本的amazon。他们公司不雇清洁工，每
: 天下班以后大家自己动手，收拾干净。
: 几个月以前business week有个帖子，西班牙青年失业率在20%以上。现在已经50%以上
: 了。但是几个月前的文章里提到，西班牙华人移民的失业率很低，不记得具体数字，远
: 远低于20%。
: 资本家确实吸血，而发达国家的工人阶级也确实比以前要娇生惯养。到底其他国家的工
: 人阶级也变得娇生惯养起来是历史的必然趋势呢，还是发达国家的工人阶级变得勤劳肯
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a*******u
发帖数: 619 | 15 上次回国，很高兴地看到苏南的几个城市已经有这种公用自行车系统了。回来以后跟公
司的一个老美自行车爱好者谈起，他不服气，就找了纽约市的 CITY BIKE SHARE 的链
接发给大家，证明美国也开始进步了。 |
s********n
发帖数: 4346 | 16 Yes, Hangzhou has the same bike share. It really made a city look very much
civilized.
See this article about biking in the US:
http://www.economist.com/node/21562252
【在 a*******u 的大作中提到】
: 上次回国，很高兴地看到苏南的几个城市已经有这种公用自行车系统了。回来以后跟公
: 司的一个老美自行车爱好者谈起，他不服气，就找了纽约市的 CITY BIKE SHARE 的链
: 接发给大家，证明美国也开始进步了。
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s********n
发帖数: 4346 | 17 This is scary. I wonder if i should bike across the highway bridge again
tomorrow.
http://www.economist.com/node/21528302
Bike safety
Calm down
With a very few exceptions, America is no place for cyclists
Sep 3rd 2011 | SEATTLE | from the print edition
DYING while cycling is three to five times more likely in America than in
Denmark, Germany or the Netherlands. To understand why, consider the death
of Michael Wang. He was pedalling home from work in Seattle on a sunny
weekday afternoon in late July when, witnesses say, a brown SUV made a left
turn, crunched into Wang and sped away.
The road where the 44-year-old father of two was hit is the busiest cycling
corridor in Seattle, and it has clearly marked bicycle lanes. But the lanes
are protected from motor vehicles by a line of white paint—a largely
metaphorical barrier that many drivers ignore and police do not vigorously
enforce. A few feet from the cycling lane traffic moves at speeds of between
30 miles per hour, the speed limit for arterials in Seattle, and 40 miles
per hour, the speed at which many cars actually travel. This kind of speed
kills. A pedestrian hit by a car moving at 30mph has a 45% chance of dying;
at 40mph, the chance of death is 85%, according to Britain's Department of
Transport.
Had Mr Wang been commuting on a busy bike route in Amsterdam, Copenhagen or
Berlin, his unprotected exposure to instruments of death—namely, any
vehicle moving at 20mph or more—would be nearly nil. These cities have
knitted together networks for everyday travel by bike. To start with, motor
vehicles allowed near cyclists are subject to “traffic calming”. They must
slow down to about 19mph, a speed that, in case of collision, kills less
than 5%. Police strictly enforce these speed limits with hefty fines. Repeat
offenders lose their licences.
Calmer traffic is just the beginning. In much of northern Europe, cyclists
commute on lanes that are protected from cars by concrete buffers, rows of
trees or parked cars. At busy crossroads, bicycle-activated traffic lights
let cyclists cross first. Traffic laws discriminate in favour of people on
bikes. A few American cities have taken European-style steps to make streets
safer for cycling, most notably Portland, Oregon, which has used most of
the above ideas. The result: more bikes and fewer deaths. Nearly 6% of
commuters bike to work in Portland, the highest proportion in America. But
in five out of the past ten years there have been no cycling deaths there.
In the nearby Seattle area, where cycling is popular but traffic calming is
not, three cyclists, have been killed in the past few weeks.
【在 e*******e 的大作中提到】
: 我是真替他们担心呀。。。在城市里骑其实还好点，就怕半郊区的，车速快。。。
: 有一次去动物园，那边也是山路，一家四口都骑车，路上有青苔，小儿子（5，6）岁的
: 样子，啪的就摔倒了，还好路比较宽，要不车都来不及让啊，真是让人看着捏把汗。
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e*******e
发帖数: 6165 | 18 看到最后一段笑了，可怜的西雅图人民，比较安全的那是downtown Portland。
这边每年夏天都有从seattle 骑车到portland的活动。
反正据我所知，06年我们楼层就有个人在local左拐被迎面的车撞了，death... 据说因
为夕阳对面的车看不见。不知是不是因为这个，每年有一天是Cycling Safety Day -
Don't be the winner of Darwin award, 然后poster上画着一只脱落的鞋。。。 |
s********n
发帖数: 4346 | 19 Nothing we can do at this moment. I will ride on the sidewalk today across
the river.
But I still really enjoy biking. You are outside and you are moving.
【在 e*******e 的大作中提到】
: 看到最后一段笑了，可怜的西雅图人民，比较安全的那是downtown Portland。
: 这边每年夏天都有从seattle 骑车到portland的活动。
: 反正据我所知，06年我们楼层就有个人在local左拐被迎面的车撞了，death... 据说因
: 为夕阳对面的车看不见。不知是不是因为这个，每年有一天是Cycling Safety Day -
: Don't be the winner of Darwin award, 然后poster上画着一只脱落的鞋。。。
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e*******e
发帖数: 6165 | |
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e*******e
发帖数: 6165 | |
c*********k
发帖数: 836 | 22 ＂I’m also a stereotypical Jersey driver, someone who treats speed limits
as speed minimums and curses those who disagree. And I'm just as bad as a
pedestrian, another jaywalking smartphone zombie oblivious to the world
beyond my glowing screen. If I’m moving, I’m an accident waiting to happen
.＂
哈哈好幽默啊！
【在 C*F 的大作中提到】
: Just read this.
: See which asshole/s you can relate to.
: I'm an asshole biker in a bike-friendly city.
: http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/0
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s********n
发帖数: 4346 | 23 不是很幽默。我刚听说有隔朋友出了车祸，很惨， 话都说不出来了。 过马路一定不能
打手机， 听音乐。
happen
【在 c*********k 的大作中提到】
: ＂I’m also a stereotypical Jersey driver, someone who treats speed limits
: as speed minimums and curses those who disagree. And I'm just as bad as a
: pedestrian, another jaywalking smartphone zombie oblivious to the world
: beyond my glowing screen. If I’m moving, I’m an accident waiting to happen
: .＂
: 哈哈好幽默啊！
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