c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 1 做 ＴＥＣＨ．ＡＤＶＩＳＯＲ 好象不够格吧？ 尽管也在制药公司工作过 １０
年. |
i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 2 首先想清楚：why law firm?
这个问题包括两个部分
1. 你为什么选择去律所工作？
2. 为什么律所要你去工作？
想清楚这个问题，你自然就知道能不能找到工作，能找什么样的工作了。
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: 做 ＴＥＣＨ．ＡＤＶＩＳＯＲ 好象不够格吧？ 尽管也在制药公司工作过 １０
: 年.
|
c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 3 1. 你为什么选择去律所工作？
在律所工作多长脸呀!
2. 为什么律所要你去工作？
查了一下, 律所IP有纯有机化学合成背景的不多见,估计是没什么鸟用. 真令人丧气. |
d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 4 ?? you can't find a job in a law firm.
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: 1. 你为什么选择去律所工作？
: 在律所工作多长脸呀!
: 2. 为什么律所要你去工作？
: 查了一下, 律所IP有纯有机化学合成背景的不多见,估计是没什么鸟用. 真令人丧气.
|
c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 5 No, I can't, at least for now.
For quite a while I thought about making generic Viagra in China, but have
to give up after reading the post about that sea turtle's legend. He was
indicted for saving others' life, so anybody who tries to make a profit
would be convicted, I guess.
【在 d********e 的大作中提到】
: ?? you can't find a job in a law firm.
|
f*****n
发帖数: 12752 | 6 律所缺懂化学的，不缺懂生物的。因为学化学的能很快理解生物，反之不行。去试tech
spec吧，只要你喜欢IPｌａｗ的环境。 |
c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 7 对呀, 本科时学了有机合成, 然后学生化, 觉得那些三羧酸循环,脂质代谢, 蛋白合成,
逆转录, 都很好理解, 后来考试时我全用化学方程式作答, 挺有意思的. 真工作的话,
彼此彼此,都是粗活. 有机更脏更毒, 要求更低, 几瓶试剂, 才值几个钱, 让个高中生
做也可以, 因为做砸了也不心疼, 你愿意让高中生摆弄那些昂贵的生化试剂吗?
IP方面更多的是生物医学工程与仪器. 学生化的有优势.
tech
【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: 律所缺懂化学的，不缺懂生物的。因为学化学的能很快理解生物，反之不行。去试tech
: spec吧，只要你喜欢IPｌａｗ的环境。
|
p*******r
发帖数: 666 | 8 是清华北大科大的吗? 有美国PHD 吗? 还最好IVY LEAGUE 的~
最近大所喜欢人才高消费..... |
N****O
发帖数: 4202 | 9 是清华北大科大的，在美国有phd,但是不是ivy league的，但是其学校law school是
top 10的law school.这样的背景有戏吗？
【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: 是清华北大科大的吗? 有美国PHD 吗? 还最好IVY LEAGUE 的~
: 最近大所喜欢人才高消费.....
|
f*****n
发帖数: 12752 | 10 you can definitely try. But I guess it is better to find a legal job doing
other aspects of law. Top law school experience is a waste for IP law. Only
my 2 cents.
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】
: 是清华北大科大的，在美国有phd,但是不是ivy league的，但是其学校law school是
: top 10的law school.这样的背景有戏吗？
|
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|
N****O
发帖数: 4202 | 11 谢谢~
可能我没有说清楚。我没有在top10 law school读书，我只是说我phd学校的law
school是top 10的。
phd怎么才能找到a legal job doing other aspects of law呢?
doing
Only
【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: you can definitely try. But I guess it is better to find a legal job doing
: other aspects of law. Top law school experience is a waste for IP law. Only
: my 2 cents.
|
f*****n
发帖数: 12752 | 12 phd怎么才能找到a legal job doing other aspects of law呢?
getting into a T14 law school |
a**********m
发帖数: 2098 | 13 no one cares your previous degree if you are excellent enough to practice al
l kinds of law, which usually means top students in your school
【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: phd怎么才能找到a legal job doing other aspects of law呢?
: getting into a T14 law school
|
i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 14 是的
al
【在 a**********m 的大作中提到】
: no one cares your previous degree if you are excellent enough to practice al
: l kinds of law, which usually means top students in your school
|
c*******i
发帖数: 951 | 15 非常同意
【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: 律所缺懂化学的，不缺懂生物的。因为学化学的能很快理解生物，反之不行。去试tech
: spec吧，只要你喜欢IPｌａｗ的环境。
|
I**1
发帖数: 151 | 16 向各位已经在IP业内的人士求证：律所到底是缺懂化学的？还是缺懂生物的？
谢谢 |
c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 17 做 ＴＥＣＨ．ＡＤＶＩＳＯＲ 好象不够格吧？ 尽管也在制药公司工作过 １０
年. |
i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 18 首先想清楚：why law firm?
这个问题包括两个部分
1. 你为什么选择去律所工作？
2. 为什么律所要你去工作？
想清楚这个问题，你自然就知道能不能找到工作，能找什么样的工作了。
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: 做 ＴＥＣＨ．ＡＤＶＩＳＯＲ 好象不够格吧？ 尽管也在制药公司工作过 １０
: 年.
|
c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 19 1. 你为什么选择去律所工作？
在律所工作多长脸呀!
2. 为什么律所要你去工作？
查了一下, 律所IP有纯有机化学合成背景的不多见,估计是没什么鸟用. 真令人丧气. |
d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 20 ?? you can't find a job in a law firm.
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: 1. 你为什么选择去律所工作？
: 在律所工作多长脸呀!
: 2. 为什么律所要你去工作？
: 查了一下, 律所IP有纯有机化学合成背景的不多见,估计是没什么鸟用. 真令人丧气.
|
|
|
c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 21 No, I can't, at least for now.
For quite a while I thought about making generic Viagra in China, but have
to give up after reading the post about that sea turtle's legend. He was
indicted for saving others' life, so anybody who tries to make a profit
would be convicted, I guess.
【在 d********e 的大作中提到】
: ?? you can't find a job in a law firm.
|
f*****n
发帖数: 12752 | 22 律所缺懂化学的，不缺懂生物的。因为学化学的能很快理解生物，反之不行。去试tech
spec吧，只要你喜欢IPｌａｗ的环境。 |
c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 23 对呀, 本科时学了有机合成, 然后学生化, 觉得那些三羧酸循环,脂质代谢, 蛋白合成,
逆转录, 都很好理解, 后来考试时我全用化学方程式作答, 挺有意思的. 真工作的话,
彼此彼此,都是粗活. 有机更脏更毒, 要求更低, 几瓶试剂, 才值几个钱, 让个高中生
做也可以, 因为做砸了也不心疼, 你愿意让高中生摆弄那些昂贵的生化试剂吗?
IP方面更多的是生物医学工程与仪器. 学生化的有优势.
tech
【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: 律所缺懂化学的，不缺懂生物的。因为学化学的能很快理解生物，反之不行。去试tech
: spec吧，只要你喜欢IPｌａｗ的环境。
|
c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 24 化学没屁用，有价值的化学研究比如制药由于投资巨大，公司一般都有自己的律师。没
什么价值的也不会申请专利。最好是EE或者CS。别的都很窝囊。 |
c***d
发帖数: 80 | 25 Chemistry knowledge is very important for a law firm in pharma litigations.
They need lawyers who understand synthesis for process patents, analytical
chem for polymorph patents, protein chem for bio drugs, etc. You cannot rely
on an expert for every single question. |
c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 26 Are you hiring?
.
rely
【在 c***d 的大作中提到】
: Chemistry knowledge is very important for a law firm in pharma litigations.
: They need lawyers who understand synthesis for process patents, analytical
: chem for polymorph patents, protein chem for bio drugs, etc. You cannot rely
: on an expert for every single question.
|
c***d
发帖数: 80 | 27 We typically hire people who have finished law school, particularly those
with clerkship experience. We mostly do litigation, so patent bar alone does
not help much if anything. |
V*****r
发帖数: 216 | 28 Since OP’s first post was around 2010, he should have finished J.D., but he
probably got bad advice and went to a bad school.
What's probability for a liberal art major, but has a strong law school
credentials (at Arts. III clerkship level) to get into a patent litigation
boutique?
does
【在 c***d 的大作中提到】
: We typically hire people who have finished law school, particularly those
: with clerkship experience. We mostly do litigation, so patent bar alone does
: not help much if anything.
|
c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 29 School is within the top 100 of USNEWS ranking. Good enough to handle some
cases. Do you really think that one need to be so smart to do legal work?
he
【在 V*****r 的大作中提到】
: Since OP’s first post was around 2010, he should have finished J.D., but he
: probably got bad advice and went to a bad school.
: What's probability for a liberal art major, but has a strong law school
: credentials (at Arts. III clerkship level) to get into a patent litigation
: boutique?
:
: does
|
u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 30 Attitude matters. Be humble and courteous to others, especially strangers.
some
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: School is within the top 100 of USNEWS ranking. Good enough to handle some
: cases. Do you really think that one need to be so smart to do legal work?
:
: he
|
|
|
c***d
发帖数: 80 | 31 I would say your federal court clerkship is a great plus, either at the
district or circuit level. There are many people with liberal arts
background handling patent litigations, and they often do a great job.
Having said that, a technical background is always looked at favorably by
potential employers.
Going to a lesser-recognized school is risky, but it is not automatically a
death sentence. All boils down to the whole package.
You may also want to try soft IP, like trademark and copyright.
he
【在 V*****r 的大作中提到】
: Since OP’s first post was around 2010, he should have finished J.D., but he
: probably got bad advice and went to a bad school.
: What's probability for a liberal art major, but has a strong law school
: credentials (at Arts. III clerkship level) to get into a patent litigation
: boutique?
:
: does
|
m**********r
发帖数: 2099 | 32 Absolutely not, apparently you are not dumb enough, like us.
some
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: School is within the top 100 of USNEWS ranking. Good enough to handle some
: cases. Do you really think that one need to be so smart to do legal work?
:
: he
|
p*******r
发帖数: 666 | 33 是清华北大科大的吗? 有美国PHD 吗? 还最好IVY LEAGUE 的~
最近大所喜欢人才高消费..... |
N****O
发帖数: 4202 | 34 是清华北大科大的，在美国有phd,但是不是ivy league的，但是其学校law school是
top 10的law school.这样的背景有戏吗？
【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: 是清华北大科大的吗? 有美国PHD 吗? 还最好IVY LEAGUE 的~
: 最近大所喜欢人才高消费.....
|
f*****n
发帖数: 12752 | 35 you can definitely try. But I guess it is better to find a legal job doing
other aspects of law. Top law school experience is a waste for IP law. Only
my 2 cents.
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】
: 是清华北大科大的，在美国有phd,但是不是ivy league的，但是其学校law school是
: top 10的law school.这样的背景有戏吗？
|
N****O
发帖数: 4202 | 36 谢谢~
可能我没有说清楚。我没有在top10 law school读书，我只是说我phd学校的law
school是top 10的。
phd怎么才能找到a legal job doing other aspects of law呢?
doing
Only
【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: you can definitely try. But I guess it is better to find a legal job doing
: other aspects of law. Top law school experience is a waste for IP law. Only
: my 2 cents.
|
f*****n
发帖数: 12752 | 37 phd怎么才能找到a legal job doing other aspects of law呢?
getting into a T14 law school |
a**********m
发帖数: 2098 | 38 no one cares your previous degree if you are excellent enough to practice al
l kinds of law, which usually means top students in your school
【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: phd怎么才能找到a legal job doing other aspects of law呢?
: getting into a T14 law school
|
i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 39 是的
al
【在 a**********m 的大作中提到】
: no one cares your previous degree if you are excellent enough to practice al
: l kinds of law, which usually means top students in your school
|
c*******i
发帖数: 951 | 40 非常同意
【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: 律所缺懂化学的，不缺懂生物的。因为学化学的能很快理解生物，反之不行。去试tech
: spec吧，只要你喜欢IPｌａｗ的环境。
|
|
|
I**1
发帖数: 151 | 41 向各位已经在IP业内的人士求证：律所到底是缺懂化学的？还是缺懂生物的？
谢谢 |
c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 42 化学没屁用，有价值的化学研究比如制药由于投资巨大，公司一般都有自己的律师。没
什么价值的也不会申请专利。最好是EE或者CS。别的都很窝囊。 |
c***d
发帖数: 80 | 43 Chemistry knowledge is very important for a law firm in pharma litigations.
They need lawyers who understand synthesis for process patents, analytical
chem for polymorph patents, protein chem for bio drugs, etc. You cannot rely
on an expert for every single question. |
c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 44 Are you hiring?
.
rely
【在 c***d 的大作中提到】
: Chemistry knowledge is very important for a law firm in pharma litigations.
: They need lawyers who understand synthesis for process patents, analytical
: chem for polymorph patents, protein chem for bio drugs, etc. You cannot rely
: on an expert for every single question.
|
c***d
发帖数: 80 | 45 We typically hire people who have finished law school, particularly those
with clerkship experience. We mostly do litigation, so patent bar alone does
not help much if anything. |
V*****r
发帖数: 216 | 46 Since OP’s first post was around 2010, he should have finished J.D., but he
probably got bad advice and went to a bad school.
What's probability for a liberal art major, but has a strong law school
credentials (at Arts. III clerkship level) to get into a patent litigation
boutique?
does
【在 c***d 的大作中提到】
: We typically hire people who have finished law school, particularly those
: with clerkship experience. We mostly do litigation, so patent bar alone does
: not help much if anything.
|
c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 47 School is within the top 100 of USNEWS ranking. Good enough to handle some
cases. Do you really think that one need to be so smart to do legal work?
he
【在 V*****r 的大作中提到】
: Since OP’s first post was around 2010, he should have finished J.D., but he
: probably got bad advice and went to a bad school.
: What's probability for a liberal art major, but has a strong law school
: credentials (at Arts. III clerkship level) to get into a patent litigation
: boutique?
:
: does
|
u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 48 Attitude matters. Be humble and courteous to others, especially strangers.
some
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: School is within the top 100 of USNEWS ranking. Good enough to handle some
: cases. Do you really think that one need to be so smart to do legal work?
:
: he
|
c***d
发帖数: 80 | 49 I would say your federal court clerkship is a great plus, either at the
district or circuit level. There are many people with liberal arts
background handling patent litigations, and they often do a great job.
Having said that, a technical background is always looked at favorably by
potential employers.
Going to a lesser-recognized school is risky, but it is not automatically a
death sentence. All boils down to the whole package.
You may also want to try soft IP, like trademark and copyright.
he
【在 V*****r 的大作中提到】
: Since OP’s first post was around 2010, he should have finished J.D., but he
: probably got bad advice and went to a bad school.
: What's probability for a liberal art major, but has a strong law school
: credentials (at Arts. III clerkship level) to get into a patent litigation
: boutique?
:
: does
|
m**********r
发帖数: 2099 | 50 Absolutely not, apparently you are not dumb enough, like us.
some
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: School is within the top 100 of USNEWS ranking. Good enough to handle some
: cases. Do you really think that one need to be so smart to do legal work?
:
: he
|
|
|
c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 51 I thought you would make me an offer.
【在 m**********r 的大作中提到】
: Absolutely not, apparently you are not dumb enough, like us.
:
: some
|
m**********r
发帖数: 2099 | 52 There is a defense firm which is actively recruiting. I know one of the
partners well. However I doubt if it can eventually work out given your
previous responses above. Good luck on your hunting.
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: I thought you would make me an offer.
|
c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 53 Thanks.
Did I say something wrong before? I am so stupid.
【在 m**********r 的大作中提到】
: There is a defense firm which is actively recruiting. I know one of the
: partners well. However I doubt if it can eventually work out given your
: previous responses above. Good luck on your hunting.
|
c*********n
发帖数: 115 | 54 Absolutely.
【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: Attitude matters. Be humble and courteous to others, especially strangers.
:
: some
|
