p******e 发帖数: 17163 | 1 da据说不打算告他刑事罪。但是伤者家属如果提民事诉讼的话胜算大吗? |
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c**d 发帖数: 3888 | 3 Liability insurance doesn't cover assault and battery.
I wish you'd stop giving so much uneducated advice on this board. These is
the real world, and irresponsible advice can have serious consequences in
people's lives.
【在 y*****d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有胜算,不过有保险公司cover
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p******e 发帖数: 17163 | 4 hmmm, but assuming if there is no criminal charge from da against Lien. how
can they proof assault and battery. does that means most likely insurance
will cover.
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Liability insurance doesn't cover assault and battery. : I wish you'd stop giving so much uneducated advice on this board. These is : the real world, and irresponsible advice can have serious consequences in : people's lives.
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s******r 发帖数: 21961 | 5 民事索赔案件,法官是不是觉得原告主张没有credibility就可以不用立案?
这个路虎男事件,弯弯好倒霉,普通律师还不一定是对手,得请纽约的名律师,好多钱
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p******e 发帖数: 17163 | 6 所以重点在于保险公司负不负责。楼上貌似说取决于陆虎男构不构成assault and
battery. 如果保险公司包,陆虎男应该不用花钱。
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 民事索赔案件,法官是不是觉得原告主张没有credibility就可以不用立案? : 这个路虎男事件,弯弯好倒霉,普通律师还不一定是对手,得请纽约的名律师,好多钱 : 啊。
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y*****d 发帖数: 4451 | 7 疯狗你懂多少?平时不说话光说风凉话。
还people's lives,只有你能说话,别人都不能说?典型的疯狗
is
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Liability insurance doesn't cover assault and battery. : I wish you'd stop giving so much uneducated advice on this board. These is : the real world, and irresponsible advice can have serious consequences in : people's lives.
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c**d 发帖数: 3888 | 8 These are real people with real problems. Not a testing ground for a wannabe.
【在 y*****d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 疯狗你懂多少?平时不说话光说风凉话。 : 还people's lives,只有你能说话,别人都不能说?典型的疯狗 : : is
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c**d 发帖数: 3888 | 9 I assume Lien will sue civilly for assault & battery, amongst other claims.
If Lien wins, the assailants' insurance will not pay, which means they will
have to pay from their own pocket.
how
【在 p******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : hmmm, but assuming if there is no criminal charge from da against Lien. how : can they proof assault and battery. does that means most likely insurance : will cover.
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c**d 发帖数: 3888 | 10 He doesn't need a good lawyer. The evidence is all over the internet. Lien's
real problem is that the defendants likely have very little assets that he
can put a lien on (sorry I had to use the pun), so he will have trouble
finding a lawyer who's willing to take his case on contingency.
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 民事索赔案件,法官是不是觉得原告主张没有credibility就可以不用立案? : 这个路虎男事件,弯弯好倒霉,普通律师还不一定是对手,得请纽约的名律师,好多钱 : 啊。
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p******e 发帖数: 17163 | 11 no, i'm asking what if lien got sue
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I assume Lien will sue civilly for assault & battery, amongst other claims. : If Lien wins, the assailants' insurance will not pay, which means they will : have to pay from their own pocket. : : how
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G*******E 发帖数: 566 | 12 He will definitely got sued in Civil court.The case likely will go to jury.
【在 p******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : no, i'm asking what if lien got sue
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p******e 发帖数: 17163 | 13 but will the insurance cover it so that he wont need to pay a dime
【在 G*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : He will definitely got sued in Civil court.The case likely will go to jury.
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G*******E 发帖数: 566 | 14 It is complicated, jury has to find him at fault first, then decide how much
percentage fault and how much damage he has to pay. If that damage is below
his umbrella insurance coverage, yes he does not need to pay a dime.
On the other hand, jury may not find him faulty at all. He most likely will
invoke self-defense.
【在 p******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : but will the insurance cover it so that he wont need to pay a dime
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y*****d 发帖数: 4451 | 15 还real people, against Lien的案子里,谁是defendant?还defendants little
assets?你怎么知道Lien多少身家?你连原告被告都拎不清,还he will have trouble,
Lien看这个版吗?Lien这个real people你是怎么帮的?满口胡说,疯狗一条
's
he
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : He doesn't need a good lawyer. The evidence is all over the internet. Lien's : real problem is that the defendants likely have very little assets that he : can put a lien on (sorry I had to use the pun), so he will have trouble : finding a lawyer who's willing to take his case on contingency.
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G*******E 发帖数: 566 | 16 Things keep getting interesting.
Two bikers allegedly seen on video attacking an SUV have turned themselves
in to police
A police officer, who works under cover, was riding with the group
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/05/us/bikers-attack-video/index.html |
c**d 发帖数: 3888 | 17 The original question was not clearly stated.
But you lack a basic understanding of the legal system. That's why I suggest
you refrain from providing any advice or analysis - Lien is not here, but
people might take your liberally-given advice as authoritative and ruin
their lives.
It doesn't matter which side is the defendant - liability insurance won't
cover intentional tort. Don't get angry when you are proven wrong again.
trouble,
【在 y*****d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 还real people, against Lien的案子里,谁是defendant?还defendants little : assets?你怎么知道Lien多少身家?你连原告被告都拎不清,还he will have trouble, : Lien看这个版吗?Lien这个real people你是怎么帮的?满口胡说,疯狗一条 : : 's : he
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c**d 发帖数: 3888 | 18 Do you even understand what umbrella insurance is??? It's not liability
insurance.
much
below
will
【在 G*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : It is complicated, jury has to find him at fault first, then decide how much : percentage fault and how much damage he has to pay. If that damage is below : his umbrella insurance coverage, yes he does not need to pay a dime. : On the other hand, jury may not find him faulty at all. He most likely will : invoke self-defense.
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G*******E 发帖数: 566 | 19 Please don't act like a mad dog barking at everyone, you really should
educate yourself before asking a dumb question!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbrella_insurance
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Do you even understand what umbrella insurance is??? It's not liability : insurance. : : much : below : will
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b*****n 发帖数: 53 | 20 这脸打的, pia pia的响
【在 G*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Please don't act like a mad dog barking at everyone, you really should : educate yourself before asking a dumb question! : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbrella_insurance
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c**d 发帖数: 3888 | 21 You may know how to wiki, but you still don't know what umbrella insurance
is. Umbrella =/= liability. Not everyone carries umbrella insurance.
【在 G*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Please don't act like a mad dog barking at everyone, you really should : educate yourself before asking a dumb question! : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbrella_insurance
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c**d 发帖数: 3888 | 22 Hahaha get lost, yarwood
【在 b*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这脸打的, pia pia的响
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c**********r 发帖数: 138 | 23 mitbbs上面的人素质层次不齐。有些人本科学历都没有。你不必和他们见识
Liability insurance doesn't cover assault and battery.I wish you'd stop
giving so much u........
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Liability insurance doesn't cover assault and battery. : I wish you'd stop giving so much uneducated advice on this board. These is : the real world, and irresponsible advice can have serious consequences in : people's lives.
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c**d 发帖数: 3888 | 24 I just wish people would stop playing lawyer and passing off their extremely
limited understanding of things as expert knowledge, even if only applied
to a hypothetical case. This is why there's so much misinformation
circulating around the Chinese community.
【在 c**********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : mitbbs上面的人素质层次不齐。有些人本科学历都没有。你不必和他们见识 : : Liability insurance doesn't cover assault and battery.I wish you'd stop : giving so much u........
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G*******E 发帖数: 566 | 25 why you have such attitude over here?
you just take granted the paralyzed victim will sue under intentional tort.
In reality, we don't know the case detail and facts. We don't know under
what legal ground his legal team is going to plead. For one thing I had in
mind (which could be totally wrong depending the factual evidence)pleading
under negligence as an innocent bystander?
So stop pretending you know everything and belittle other forum members.
This is a really nasty personality.
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : You may know how to wiki, but you still don't know what umbrella insurance : is. Umbrella =/= liability. Not everyone carries umbrella insurance.
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c**d 发帖数: 3888 | 26 It doesn't matter what theory the victim uses against Lien. Insurance would
deny Lien's claim because the injuries are a result of Lien's intentional
act. Even grossly negligent acts are excluded from liability coverages. Sure
, you can argue Lien's act was only negligence, but you'd have be a John
Edwards type to convince a jury that running someone over standing in front
of your SUV was pure negligence.
You seem to have the 1L understanding of tort, but applying insurance law
considerations is whole new area for you. I'm sorry if you feel belittled,
but may I remind you it was you who called names. I only pointed out your
mistakes of law.
Yarwood is a clown and I'll treat him as such.
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【在 G*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : why you have such attitude over here? : you just take granted the paralyzed victim will sue under intentional tort. : In reality, we don't know the case detail and facts. We don't know under : what legal ground his legal team is going to plead. For one thing I had in : mind (which could be totally wrong depending the factual evidence)pleading : under negligence as an innocent bystander? : So stop pretending you know everything and belittle other forum members. : This is a really nasty personality.
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V*****r 发帖数: 216 | 27 不知一个紐约的黑人怎么找到Hollywood 的名律师的? 不管结果如何,这是很好的1L
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G*******E 发帖数: 566 | 28 Maybe the lawyer contacted him first. A good opportunity to make lots of
money? =)
1L
【在 V*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不知一个紐约的黑人怎么找到Hollywood 的名律师的? 不管结果如何,这是很好的1L : LWR memo案例。
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c**d 发帖数: 3888 | 29
Obviously you haven't taken PR and learned about the prohibition against
targeted advertising.
【在 G*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Maybe the lawyer contacted him first. A good opportunity to make lots of : money? =) : : : 1L
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