w****r 发帖数: 17566 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Texas 讨论区 】
发信人: zaosen (leng), 信区: Texas
标 题: 今天波士顿游行现场长篇演讲。。。巨牛
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 9 01:17:25 2013, 美东)
What a Journey
Chunyan Li, Ph.D.
11/8/2013
Dear all,
How long does it take us to get here today? One hour? Two hours? For me, it
is 20 years! 20 years ago I arrived at this land of the free, full of ideals
, perhaps from listening too much to radio Voice of America. 20 years later
my sons join me to protest against ABC's spreading of racial hatred and
violence. What is wrong with this picture?
I ask my teenage son whether we should just treat "killing Chinese" as a
joke. He said this demonstrates what the society and media had been feeding
our young kids. My heart sank. Is America moving forward or backward?
Now I ask again: How long does it take us to get here?
I don't know about you, but the last 20 days seem longer than my 20 years.
Those of us who stand here today must have been reading, writing, arguing,
and agonizing over confusing pieces of reports and commentaries. And we ask
ourselves, are we being unreasonable? Is our English that bad that we don't
know what an apology is?
On 10/28, the night of our first protest, Mr. Kimmel said, "today is a weird
day...I am sorry if I offended anyone." I ask ABC, who is the weird one?
Who truly apologizes if he doesn't even say sorry for what? Sorry to whom?
To the Chinese whose sense of tranquility is forever disturbed? To our kids
whom we try so hard to shield from pain and harm? To the schools that teach
kids the spirit of Dr. Martin Luther King? ABC, do you call that an apology
?
In a letter to 80-20, ABC still claims it only entertains. Why is joking
about killing Chinese so entertaining? Is it because we are always so nice?
My friend's sweet 11-year old wants to write on his poster, "do not take
advantage of us." I first didn't understand, then found out he meant "don't
take advantage of us because we are nice." That broke my heart!!! ABC and Mr
. Kimmel, we hold you accountable for taking away our children's precious
sense of security. And we hold you accountable for sowing the seeds of
hatred in other children's minds.
On 10/29, Mr. Kimmel even resorted to the ridiculous notion of cultural
difference. I ask him, what cultural difference do you mean? A culture of
hard work, respect, harmony versus a culture of violence and racial hatred?
Then I admit there is an unbridgeable difference between Kimmel and us. We
know what's right, what's wrong. And we know what humor is too! Yet we have
no tolerance of your malicious joke, subsequent insult on air, then the
absurd reference to culture. This only proves Mr. Kimmel you are unfit to be
a public figure.
ABC, stop blaming cultural differences for your own mistakes! Except for
Native Americans, all are immigrants with unique traits. Yet we share the
basic value of human dignity. Stop magnifying the differences in skin colors
, or accents!
I ask a third time, how long does it take us to get here? Our friends
started telling us there is another written apology somewhere. Who in real
life is given so many third chances? Yet I ponder, are we asking too much? I
discovered to my dismay that in that written letter, Mr. Kimmel is still
hiding behind the 6-year old. Come on Mr. Kimmel, you think our anger is on
a 6-year old? Our anger is on your malicious question "Should we allow the
Chinese to live?" Our anger is on your subsequent arrogant ridicule. Our
rage is on ABC for not letting the public know the truth of these so called
apologies.
America is the home of the brave. ABC, show our kids you have the courage of
admitting wrong doing, show our kids you have the guts to take
responsibility by dismissing Mr. Kimmel. Show us you have the resolve to
institute procedures to prevent future incidences. ABC, do NOT hide behind a
6-year old! Show us what a major network can do to right its wrong!
Twenty years, twenty days. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Who
doesn't want to be happy? But without life, what is liberty? Without liberty,
what is happiness? Let's join hands in our pursuit of human dignity.
Teach kids to love, not to kill! |
j******n 发帖数: 21641 | 2 脱稿?
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ideals
【在 w****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 【 以下文字转载自 Texas 讨论区 】 : 发信人: zaosen (leng), 信区: Texas : 标 题: 今天波士顿游行现场长篇演讲。。。巨牛 : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 9 01:17:25 2013, 美东) : What a Journey : Chunyan Li, Ph.D. : 11/8/2013 : Dear all, : How long does it take us to get here today? One hour? Two hours? For me, it : is 20 years! 20 years ago I arrived at this land of the free, full of ideals
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P****e 发帖数: 389 | 3 这个写的很不错,classy and sharp, 赞一个。 |
a*********7 发帖数: 30080 | 4 今天在时代广场有位女士也讲这个了,不知道是不是这位李女士
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ideals
【在 w****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 【 以下文字转载自 Texas 讨论区 】 : 发信人: zaosen (leng), 信区: Texas : 标 题: 今天波士顿游行现场长篇演讲。。。巨牛 : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 9 01:17:25 2013, 美东) : What a Journey : Chunyan Li, Ph.D. : 11/8/2013 : Dear all, : How long does it take us to get here today? One hour? Two hours? For me, it : is 20 years! 20 years ago I arrived at this land of the free, full of ideals
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b**********s 发帖数: 9531 | 6 应该是在纽约ABC总部门口,李春燕博士的讲演,现场youtube录像更感人,特别是带口
音的英语去质问。国人被歧视惯了,总觉了有口音就自卑,不应该在众人面前说话,但
兔子急了还咬人呢。
最早在德州版发表,后来转贴都讲错就错了。
【在 a*********7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 今天在时代广场有位女士也讲这个了,不知道是不是这位李女士 : : it : ideals
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N****f 发帖数: 25759 | 7 Very well written, in just about every aspect of it.
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ideals
【在 w****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 【 以下文字转载自 Texas 讨论区 】 : 发信人: zaosen (leng), 信区: Texas : 标 题: 今天波士顿游行现场长篇演讲。。。巨牛 : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 9 01:17:25 2013, 美东) : What a Journey : Chunyan Li, Ph.D. : 11/8/2013 : Dear all, : How long does it take us to get here today? One hour? Two hours? For me, it : is 20 years! 20 years ago I arrived at this land of the free, full of ideals
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c*******r 发帖数: 870 | 8 写得很好!
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ideals
【在 w****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 【 以下文字转载自 Texas 讨论区 】 : 发信人: zaosen (leng), 信区: Texas : 标 题: 今天波士顿游行现场长篇演讲。。。巨牛 : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 9 01:17:25 2013, 美东) : What a Journey : Chunyan Li, Ph.D. : 11/8/2013 : Dear all, : How long does it take us to get here today? One hour? Two hours? For me, it : is 20 years! 20 years ago I arrived at this land of the free, full of ideals
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c**c 发帖数: 2593 | 10 赞一下,很有大将风度。是拿着手机念稿么?可能将来还是应该有个Google Glass App
自动提词,可以腾出一只手做手势,更增加气势。
【在 w**m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是这位吗? : 写得太牛了 我拜一下
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e***d 发帖数: 8248 | 11 很厉害的文章。
向二十年来的美国梦之旅发问,向美国立国之基的价值体系发问。
二十年与二十天,究竟哪一个更长?
it
ideals
【在 w****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 【 以下文字转载自 Texas 讨论区 】 : 发信人: zaosen (leng), 信区: Texas : 标 题: 今天波士顿游行现场长篇演讲。。。巨牛 : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 9 01:17:25 2013, 美东) : What a Journey : Chunyan Li, Ph.D. : 11/8/2013 : Dear all, : How long does it take us to get here today? One hour? Two hours? For me, it : is 20 years! 20 years ago I arrived at this land of the free, full of ideals
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 12 立国的根本,宪法,其实没不让种族歧视。不让种族歧视还是得归功于60年代的民权运
动。
【在 e***d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 很厉害的文章。 : 向二十年来的美国梦之旅发问,向美国立国之基的价值体系发问。 : 二十年与二十天,究竟哪一个更长? : : it : ideals
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b**********s 发帖数: 9531 | 13 all men are created equal是一切平权运动的基石。
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 立国的根本,宪法,其实没不让种族歧视。不让种族歧视还是得归功于60年代的民权运 : 动。
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 15 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yick_Wo_v._Hopkins
Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356 (1886),[1] was the second case after Tape v
. Hurley where the United States Supreme Court ruled that a law that is race
-neutral on its face, but is administered in a prejudicial manner, is an
infringement of the Equal Protection Clause in the Fourteenth Amendment to
the U.S. Constitution.
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 立国的根本,宪法,其实没不让种族歧视。不让种族歧视还是得归功于60年代的民权运 : 动。
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R******k 发帖数: 4756 | 16 美国开国初始的宪法里确实没有平权修正案,是在南北战争以后才加进去的。
去年的奥斯卡获奖电影《林肯》中有这个宪法修正案通过的具体描述
v
race
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yick_Wo_v._Hopkins : Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356 (1886),[1] was the second case after Tape v : . Hurley where the United States Supreme Court ruled that a law that is race : -neutral on its face, but is administered in a prejudicial manner, is an : infringement of the Equal Protection Clause in the Fourteenth Amendment to : the U.S. Constitution.
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 17 我是回皮球娃那句话。宪法和对宪法的阐释应该是反映社会变迁的,立国之本这个词本
来就意义不明。当然,当今最保守的法官就是抓住立国不放。
【在 R******k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 美国开国初始的宪法里确实没有平权修正案,是在南北战争以后才加进去的。 : 去年的奥斯卡获奖电影《林肯》中有这个宪法修正案通过的具体描述 : : v : race
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R******k 发帖数: 4756 | 18 你这个是 one school of thought, 属于 progressive 地看待宪法。
另一派的看法是宪法不应该随着 popular opinion 的变化而变化。否则主流群体就很
有可能 dominate 少数群体。另外也容易出现军阀(或强人如希特勒)当政,解散国会
和法院,像埃及那样的混乱局面。这种看法也有些道理。
但具体到每一件事情,大家都是屁股决定脑袋。。。
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我是回皮球娃那句话。宪法和对宪法的阐释应该是反映社会变迁的,立国之本这个词本 : 来就意义不明。当然,当今最保守的法官就是抓住立国不放。
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b**********s 发帖数: 9531 | 19 立国之本应该包括立国的理念,土地,人民,还有很多。立国的理念应该有几个重要文
件组成,就美国而言包括独立宣言(1776),美国宪法(1787),还有人权宣言(1791
)。对宪法的阐释的确反映社会变迁,但是只要英语语言变化有限,对以上文件的解释
就不可能无限变化,比如美国不可能实行君主制。
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我是回皮球娃那句话。宪法和对宪法的阐释应该是反映社会变迁的,立国之本这个词本 : 来就意义不明。当然,当今最保守的法官就是抓住立国不放。
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z*i 发帖数: 58873 | 20 你们说的都不绝对矛盾啊。
1791
【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 立国之本应该包括立国的理念,土地,人民,还有很多。立国的理念应该有几个重要文 : 件组成,就美国而言包括独立宣言(1776),美国宪法(1787),还有人权宣言(1791 : )。对宪法的阐释的确反映社会变迁,但是只要英语语言变化有限,对以上文件的解释 : 就不可能无限变化,比如美国不可能实行君主制。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 21 美国人太迂腐了,天朝几十年换了好多部,不在话下……
立国之本应该包括立国的理念,土地,人民,还有很多。立国的理念应该有几个重要文
件组成,就美国而言包括独立宣言(1776),美国宪法(1787),还有人权宣言(1791
)。对宪法的阐释的确反映社会变迁,但是只要英语语言变化有限,对以上文件的解释
就不可能无限变化,比如美国不可能实行君主制。
【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 立国之本应该包括立国的理念,土地,人民,还有很多。立国的理念应该有几个重要文 : 件组成,就美国而言包括独立宣言(1776),美国宪法(1787),还有人权宣言(1791 : )。对宪法的阐释的确反映社会变迁,但是只要英语语言变化有限,对以上文件的解释 : 就不可能无限变化,比如美国不可能实行君主制。
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 22 haha , not progressive, just pragmatic,虽然离clarence thomas很远, 但是也不
是ruth ginsburg。具体到每件事情,除了强硬的屁股派,很多时候人的选择也是不好
预测的。
【在 R******k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你这个是 one school of thought, 属于 progressive 地看待宪法。 : 另一派的看法是宪法不应该随着 popular opinion 的变化而变化。否则主流群体就很 : 有可能 dominate 少数群体。另外也容易出现军阀(或强人如希特勒)当政,解散国会 : 和法院,像埃及那样的混乱局面。这种看法也有些道理。 : 但具体到每一件事情,大家都是屁股决定脑袋。。。
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z*i 发帖数: 58873 | 23 从conservative到progressive成为一个spectrum才对啊。9个人看法都一样,这个
court还有什么用啊。
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : haha , not progressive, just pragmatic,虽然离clarence thomas很远, 但是也不 : 是ruth ginsburg。具体到每件事情,除了强硬的屁股派,很多时候人的选择也是不好 : 预测的。
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 24 我可没说对宪法的阐释能无限变化。
bill of rights 本来就是amendment, 后面还有呢。
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【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 立国之本应该包括立国的理念,土地,人民,还有很多。立国的理念应该有几个重要文 : 件组成,就美国而言包括独立宣言(1776),美国宪法(1787),还有人权宣言(1791 : )。对宪法的阐释的确反映社会变迁,但是只要英语语言变化有限,对以上文件的解释 : 就不可能无限变化,比如美国不可能实行君主制。
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 25 还可以拿来照相
【在 z*i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 从conservative到progressive成为一个spectrum才对啊。9个人看法都一样,这个 : court还有什么用啊。
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z*i 发帖数: 58873 | 26 不如皮特和朱莉
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 还可以拿来照相
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 27 皮特朱利又不是终身绑定的。
【在 z*i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不如皮特和朱莉
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z*i 发帖数: 58873 | 28 sigh, hope i can say that with such confidence and determination ...
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 皮特朱利又不是终身绑定的。
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 29 这。。。。sigh。。。confidence/determination 从何而来?
【在 z*i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : sigh, hope i can say that with such confidence and determination ...
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l*r 发帖数: 79569 | 30 小茶最近比较反常
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这。。。。sigh。。。confidence/determination 从何而来?
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z*i 发帖数: 58873 | 31 我肿么了?
【在 l*r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 小茶最近比较反常
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