a*********7 发帖数: 30080 | 1 http://www.mitbbs.com/news_wenzhang/Headline/31462519.html
同村的张世芬是这起事故的目击者。事发时,她正好走在几个小孩的后面。“那个货车
是迎面开过来的,娃儿(死者)在路边上走。”张世芬指了指马路一侧划的白线,“靠边
走的,没有超出这根线。”张世芬回忆,货车好像是碰到了熊茂科的右耳,“娃儿被碰
倒后,又马上翻身爬起来,去捡落在地上的雨伞。”
接下来的情景令张世芬目瞪口呆,“我看到车子往后退了一点又往前,娃儿就被卷到车
轮下,然后车子继续朝前开了大概10米。”张世芬说,她当时就在几个小孩身后十多米
远,货车开到她面前时,她清楚地看到车轮下的小孩已经血肉模煳。“你干啥子?还不
停下来!”最终,货车在张世芬的面前停下了。“他(司机)下车后还骂了一句,然后转
身就走。”张世芬说。 | b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 2 我选你作立法委员!
【在 a*********7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : http://www.mitbbs.com/news_wenzhang/Headline/31462519.html : 同村的张世芬是这起事故的目击者。事发时,她正好走在几个小孩的后面。“那个货车 : 是迎面开过来的,娃儿(死者)在路边上走。”张世芬指了指马路一侧划的白线,“靠边 : 走的,没有超出这根线。”张世芬回忆,货车好像是碰到了熊茂科的右耳,“娃儿被碰 : 倒后,又马上翻身爬起来,去捡落在地上的雨伞。” : 接下来的情景令张世芬目瞪口呆,“我看到车子往后退了一点又往前,娃儿就被卷到车 : 轮下,然后车子继续朝前开了大概10米。”张世芬说,她当时就在几个小孩身后十多米 : 远,货车开到她面前时,她清楚地看到车轮下的小孩已经血肉模煳。“你干啥子?还不 : 停下来!”最终,货车在张世芬的面前停下了。“他(司机)下车后还骂了一句,然后转 : 身就走。”张世芬说。
| wh 发帖数: 141625 | 3 今天刚看到一个帖子,前两年康州有人被车撞,目击者无人相救。美国报道没有铺天盖
地的道德谴责,而是分析当时情况和心理学现象(those onlookers may in fact not
know how to act in such a medical emergency, or why their instincts tell
them to stay put. ... Bystander phenomenon, sometimes referred to as
bystander apathy or the Genovese effect, is a psychological phenomenon in
which people are less likely to respond to an emergency when there are
others around),并正面宣传急救措施,遇到紧急情况该怎么反应处理。虽然国情不
同,国内体制和社会风气该批评,但正面安全和急救教育更需要。国内开车普及没几年
,交通事故非常频繁,新闻报道媒体宣传真该多做这种实在的安全教育、应急措施的宣
传,不是一窝蜂地骂或捧。
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5015458&page=1
What Would You Do in a Hit and Run?
By LAUREN COX and RADHA CHITALE
ABC News Medical Unit
June 6, 2008
Yesterday's release of surveillance video depicting a 78-year-old hit-and-
run victim lying in the street but ignored by onlookers and motorists has
sparked a public debate over the humanity and the responsibility of the city
's residents.
Hartford, Conn., Mayor Eddie A. Perez announced his disgust Thursday after
watching the footage, showing several cars swerving to avoid Angle Arce
Torres, who was lying paralyzed and bleeding from the head.
But while Perez calls such negligence "horrific," those onlooker may in fact
not know how to act in such a medical emergency, or why their instincts
tell them to stay put.
Waiting in the Wings
City officials told the Hartford Courant that four people called 911 to
report last Friday's incident — but that may not always be enough in an
emergency situation.
Tragically, some experts say the public's inaction is a classic social
occurrence.
"It's kind of a textbook case of bystander phenomenon," says John Darley, a
professor of psychology and public affairs at Princeton University.
Bystander phenomenon, sometimes referred to as bystander apathy or the
Genovese effect, is a psychological phenomenon in which people are less
likely to respond to an emergency when there are others around.
A famous case in New York in 1968 involved 29-year-old Kitty Genovese being
brutally murdered in front of her apartment building while 38 people who
witnessed the event did nothing to help.
Although Darley says it is tempting to classify those who stood by and did
nothing to help Torres as "rotten, kind of alienated people," the situation
is complicated by several factors.
"If you are alone with a victim, then you help or nobody helps," Darley says
. "If you are at all conflicted about helping, you can say somebody knows
more."
In this way, responsibility is unconsciously spread between several people,
each of whom may believe that others know better than they do, and so fail
to offer any help themselves.
Unsafe Environment?
In Torres's case, Darley says there may have been other factors, such as the
claim that the neighborhood in which the accident occurred is not
particularly safe, that kept locals from moving quickly to aid him.
In addition, those who did not witness Torres getting hit from the beginning
may have taken their cue from people around them and assumed that the
situation was not dire.
"What you fail to realize is, those people are as confused as you are,"
Darley says.
Social cues can be confusing, but the legal issues of an emergency situation
can be complicated as well. In some states, so-called Good Samaritan
statutes may find fault with a person for neglecting a stranger publicly in
need. However, Darren Kavinoky, a criminal defense lawyer in Woodland Hills,
Calif., says the arm of the law can come down on the other side too.
"Passer-bys generally have no obligation to help," Kavinoky said, unless
there is a special relationship, such as parent-child, or if someone is duty
-bound to act, such as a lifeguard or a police officer.
"If you undertake to help, and do so negligently, you may be liable for the
additional damage you cause. Once you start, you can't change your mind and
walk away."
Jumping Into Action
So what should someone do when confronted with a seriously injured accident
victim?
"There's some common sense things people can do," says Arthur Hsieh, a
paramedic and the chief executive officer of the San Francisco Paramedic
Association. First, says Hsieh, citizens should make sure the area is safe
to approach the person who's been hit.
"Many people will stop their own cars or people will wave down traffic,"
says Hsieh. "But if there's a lot of traffic in the roadway there's
absolutely no expectation for someone to risk their own life to rescue
someone else."
Ambulance drivers follow the same tenant, and often block the scene of an
accident with their vehicles. "If you look at the way we park ambulances —
we use them as shields," says Hsieh.
Once cars do stop — which at least one lane of traffic did in the
Connecticut surveillance video — Hsieh says people should follow a few
basic rules: Call 911, do not move the person and do not give the person
anything to eat or drink because vomit can interfere with later medical
treatment.
"Only move someone if it's necessary, for example if someone's in the car,
and the car is on fire," says Hsieh. Moving someone with a spine injury
could cause even more damage.
If someone starts looking pale, breathing quickly, sweating, shaking or
shivering, Hsieh says the person should be covered with a jacket or a
blanket to keep the victim from going into shock. Even simple steps like
these can help tremendously, says Hsieh, who adds most people can learn
crucial medical response and CPR information in a day or half-day course.
"When the public is involved in severe cases, it's really the public that
makes a difference in saving a life," says Hsieh.
【在 a*********7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : http://www.mitbbs.com/news_wenzhang/Headline/31462519.html : 同村的张世芬是这起事故的目击者。事发时,她正好走在几个小孩的后面。“那个货车 : 是迎面开过来的,娃儿(死者)在路边上走。”张世芬指了指马路一侧划的白线,“靠边 : 走的,没有超出这根线。”张世芬回忆,货车好像是碰到了熊茂科的右耳,“娃儿被碰 : 倒后,又马上翻身爬起来,去捡落在地上的雨伞。” : 接下来的情景令张世芬目瞪口呆,“我看到车子往后退了一点又往前,娃儿就被卷到车 : 轮下,然后车子继续朝前开了大概10米。”张世芬说,她当时就在几个小孩身后十多米 : 远,货车开到她面前时,她清楚地看到车轮下的小孩已经血肉模煳。“你干啥子?还不 : 停下来!”最终,货车在张世芬的面前停下了。“他(司机)下车后还骂了一句,然后转 : 身就走。”张世芬说。
| b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 4 至少还有四个人打911,其他的车绕行,没有再撞一下。
而且,这个环境也是有点不安全,车来车往的。
虽说不是什么光彩事,但是也比那个悦悦案中没有打110,第二辆车再撞一下强很多吧。
not
【在 wh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 今天刚看到一个帖子,前两年康州有人被车撞,目击者无人相救。美国报道没有铺天盖 : 地的道德谴责,而是分析当时情况和心理学现象(those onlookers may in fact not : know how to act in such a medical emergency, or why their instincts tell : them to stay put. ... Bystander phenomenon, sometimes referred to as : bystander apathy or the Genovese effect, is a psychological phenomenon in : which people are less likely to respond to an emergency when there are : others around),并正面宣传急救措施,遇到紧急情况该怎么反应处理。虽然国情不 : 同,国内体制和社会风气该批评,但正面安全和急救教育更需要。国内开车普及没几年 : ,交通事故非常频繁,新闻报道媒体宣传真该多做这种实在的安全教育、应急措施的宣 : 传,不是一窝蜂地骂或捧。
| wh 发帖数: 141625 | 5 是啊,是好多了。主要是觉得这样的报道更有效果,告诉你该怎么做。我还学过first
aid,但忘光了,碰到紧急事件我能记得怎么查呼吸心跳,怎么摆安全姿势,但人工呼
吸的频率、挤压胸口的位置都记不清了。不过我们老师说过,记不清就瞎弄,弄总比不
弄好。
吧。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 至少还有四个人打911,其他的车绕行,没有再撞一下。 : 而且,这个环境也是有点不安全,车来车往的。 : 虽说不是什么光彩事,但是也比那个悦悦案中没有打110,第二辆车再撞一下强很多吧。 : : not
| a*********7 发帖数: 30080 | 6 这活我可干不了。。。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我选你作立法委员!
| a*********7 发帖数: 30080 | 7 国内报道也不一定没有这样的吧,我们只是在网上看到,大多是网友自己的评论,当然
是谴责多了;其实我也看见一些讨论急救措施的,比如说当时陈阿姨移动小孩未必合适
,应该拦车,等急救云云;然后别人反驳,在国内这么干,多半是一起被撞。
not
【在 wh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 今天刚看到一个帖子,前两年康州有人被车撞,目击者无人相救。美国报道没有铺天盖 : 地的道德谴责,而是分析当时情况和心理学现象(those onlookers may in fact not : know how to act in such a medical emergency, or why their instincts tell : them to stay put. ... Bystander phenomenon, sometimes referred to as : bystander apathy or the Genovese effect, is a psychological phenomenon in : which people are less likely to respond to an emergency when there are : others around),并正面宣传急救措施,遇到紧急情况该怎么反应处理。虽然国情不 : 同,国内体制和社会风气该批评,但正面安全和急救教育更需要。国内开车普及没几年 : ,交通事故非常频繁,新闻报道媒体宣传真该多做这种实在的安全教育、应急措施的宣 : 传,不是一窝蜂地骂或捧。
| a*********7 发帖数: 30080 | 8 嗯,这两件事有点象,但是国内那个恶劣太多了
吧。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 至少还有四个人打911,其他的车绕行,没有再撞一下。 : 而且,这个环境也是有点不安全,车来车往的。 : 虽说不是什么光彩事,但是也比那个悦悦案中没有打110,第二辆车再撞一下强很多吧。 : : not
| x*****u 发帖数: 3419 | 9 什么法律?
【在 a*********7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : http://www.mitbbs.com/news_wenzhang/Headline/31462519.html : 同村的张世芬是这起事故的目击者。事发时,她正好走在几个小孩的后面。“那个货车 : 是迎面开过来的,娃儿(死者)在路边上走。”张世芬指了指马路一侧划的白线,“靠边 : 走的,没有超出这根线。”张世芬回忆,货车好像是碰到了熊茂科的右耳,“娃儿被碰 : 倒后,又马上翻身爬起来,去捡落在地上的雨伞。” : 接下来的情景令张世芬目瞪口呆,“我看到车子往后退了一点又往前,娃儿就被卷到车 : 轮下,然后车子继续朝前开了大概10米。”张世芬说,她当时就在几个小孩身后十多米 : 远,货车开到她面前时,她清楚地看到车轮下的小孩已经血肉模煳。“你干啥子?还不 : 停下来!”最终,货车在张世芬的面前停下了。“他(司机)下车后还骂了一句,然后转 : 身就走。”张世芬说。
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