b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 1 Neal Stephenson和《Reamde》
我看Neal Stephenson的书有些年头了。最早知道这么个作家,是在读Slashdot网站的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共和国,海外有人工大陆新亚特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
后来,1999年,Neal出版了巨著《Cryptonomicon》,探索科技,货币,黑客,二战等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Alan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人入胜。
几年以后,2003和2004年间,他出版了三部曲《Baroque Cycle》,三本千页小说:《Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世纪的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的祖先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默的描绘。
书中用的十七世纪的文风也特别搞笑,这是他自己的书前自述:
Neal Stephenson issueth from a Clan of yeomen, itinerant Parsons, ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down.
他和著名科幻作家William Gibson以及Bruce Sterling都是好友,原来在Slashdot上还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面:
The first time was a year or two after SNOW CRASH came out. I was doing a reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regeneration process, telescoping Carbonite stilettos had been incorporated into Gibson's arms. Remembering this in the nick of time, I grabbed the signing table and flipped it up between us. Of course the Carbonite stilettos pierced it as if it were cork board, but this spoiled his aim long enough for me to whip my wakizashi out from between my shoulder blades and swing at his head. He deflected the blow with a force blast that sprained my wrist. The falling table knocked over a space heater and set fire to the store. Everyone else fled. Gibson and I dueled among blazing stacks of books for a while. Slowly I gained the upper hand, for, on defense, his Praying Mantis style was no match for my Flying Cloud technique. But I lost him behind a cloud of smoke. Then I had to get out of the place. The streets were crowded with his black-suited minions and I had to turn into a swarm of locusts and fly back to Seattle.
http://bit.ly/o4aMTr
后来,2008年,他出版了一千页的《Anathem》。一个遥远的星球上面的离奇事件。这个星球类似地球,但是有自己的语言和文化(Neal甚至自己创造了这个星球上的语言,秉承J.R.R Tolkien的传统)。这个星球上面的读书人和Geek都要单独生活在一个自己的社区,类似于中世纪的修道院,但是他们被规定不许生育。然后生活在修道院外面的“正常人”可以生育,但是如果发现了有Geek倾向的就给送到修道院里去培养。这样不会造成一个特殊的知识阶层,因为知识分子都不能生育,但是可以结婚,所有他们所从事的科研就不会为自己谋私,而且他们也不能有计算机,完全手算,因为历史上的计算机和武器技术曾经使他们遭遇灭种之灾。一艘外星飞船的到来彻底改变了这个星球上的修道院里面的一群年轻人的平静生活…
这本书里面探讨了很多哲学问题,把哲学问题融入故事的情节中,最后还有附录特别探讨书中的哲学和数学问题。在小说里面,作者反复探讨了唯心唯物,精神物质,二元论等等哲学问题,放在一个不同于地球历史的参考体系中,有不同于我们通常的哲学历史的框架来重新探讨这些概念,而且是从外星人的角度,是爱动脑筋的人的很好的智力体操。
基本上,Neal的写作风格可以描述成两点:infodump,以及电影里面的慢镜头一样的生动的情节动作描写。
本来,Infodump是个科幻小说里面的贬义词,说作者脱离情节交代大量的信息,跟上课一样,科幻里面很常见,类似于Technobubble。但是,不知道为何,Stephenson的Infodump还特别好看。也许是,第一,Stephenson特别渊博,懂得特别多;此次,Stephenson特别能写,复杂的道理能讲得深入浅出,而且特别适合Geek的口味。然后,就是Stephenson对于超复杂的情节的把握能力和对于动作的电影慢动作似的精彩描写,在《Snow Crash》和《Diamond Age》里面格外出彩。也许这个叫组形散而神不散?
有趣的是,这样的一个Geek作家,居然用钢笔写作,然后自己type up成出版社的手稿。他说这样的散文质量高一些。
Stephenson手稿
今年九月份,另一部一千页的大部头,《Readme》出版了。他最近几年出版的书,每一本都可以当成杀人凶器,一千页的书,加上hard cover,拿在手上真是沉。幸亏我现在有了轻便的Kindle 4,才没有弄成腕关节脱臼。
几个星期前拿到这本书,两个星期看完了。好几天晚上都是四点钟上的床,好几次都想请病假在家读书。彻彻底底的Page turner。读完了以后,一个最明显的感觉就是,比起上一本《Anathem》来,这本书里面多了很多精彩的情节和动作,但是少了很多哲学数学和计算机方面的思考。但是,这个并不妨碍本书的故事性和精彩程度,只是在新概念的发掘上,没有《Anathem》和《Snow Crash》那样跨时代。而且,这本书里还对自己在《Snow Crash》里面提出的Google Earth的概念作了小小self-parody,很charming。而且,本身的语言上,也比Baroque时代的tongue-in-cheek的十七世纪文体有了截然不同,而且这次也没有创造另外一部新语言。这一次用的是平易的英语。
故事头一百五十页是一个很复杂的开始:中国厦门的一个病毒作者马龙,写了一个病毒,感染玩电子游戏T’Rain的玩家。T’Rain是一个类似World of Warcraft的游戏,但是游戏里面的金矿和游戏外面的钱币是可以转换的。可以用美元欧元人民币买游戏里面的金币,然后买武器,也可以在游戏里面抢夺挣金币,然后兑换成游戏外面的现金。这样就给国际洗钱份子提供了一个平台。这个病毒叫做Reamde,故意拼错了的Readme。感染了病毒的玩家的Documents文件夹被加密,要到游戏里面去交相当于七十美金的金币才能拿到解密匙。显然,没有这个游戏,这样的作者马上会被抓住的,游戏提供了一个国际转账和匿名的机制。
然后,俄国黑帮老大的trader的计算机染毒了,但是在游戏中交赎金的时候,由于其他玩家的阻挠,(游戏中有组织的匪帮抢劫去交赎金的玩家),黑帮老大没法交赎金,最后,一怒之下,带上了几个Hacker和前俄罗斯特种兵,包机非法进入厦门,(应该是贿赂了有关官员)准备去抓住马龙要解密匙。
在一栋废置的大楼内,马龙和同伙正在游戏中收取赎金,他们不知道的是,楼下住着一个从菲律宾逃来的穆斯林恐怖分子阿卜杜拉,以及他的新疆支持者。对面大楼里,有MI6的亚裔女谍,化名孟安澜的Olivia来监视他(当然没有通知我公安机关和国安机关)。客家女导游玉霞也牵扯了进来。最后,阴错阳差,俄国特种兵袭击了新疆恐怖分子,混战中两败俱伤,炸塌了大楼;恐怖分子劫持了俄国黑帮的包机逃离厦门;俄国特种兵头目和MI6女谍逃到金门;Hacker们劫持了恐怖分子的一条渔船流落菲律宾,遭遇追缉阿卜杜拉的美军特种部队…
这里就不剧透了,总之,开头一百五十页只是一个引子,精彩纷呈的情节还在后面,枪战,航海,飞行,劫持反劫持,游戏世界里面的平行发展的战争,游戏里和游戏外世界的金钱流通,等等。一千页的纯阅读享受。
情节紧张,一环套一环,基本上,晚饭后我就一直读到午夜以后,然后在地铁上,床上继续,沉浸在故事的两个世界里面不能自拔。
结束了以后,又感到一些失落,重新回到了平常世界… |
w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 2 你是不是以前推荐过他其他的书?好像有印象
听你描述的很吸引人,他的书非geek看会不会很累?
的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早
期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可
以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google
Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对
于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节
发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚
特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。
这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给
出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Allan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人
入胜。
Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世纪
的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的祖
先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《
Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑
。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是
非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默的描: 绘。
ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick
marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her
Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the
writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and
Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down.
还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面:
reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say
hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce
Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to
fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after
Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in
the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regenerat: ...................
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson和《Reamde》 : 我看Neal Stephenson的书有些年头了。最早知道这么个作家,是在读Slashdot网站的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共和国,海外有人工大陆新亚特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋… : 后来,1999年,Neal出版了巨著《Cryptonomicon》,探索科技,货币,黑客,二战等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Alan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人入胜。 : 几年以后,2003和2004年间,他出版了三部曲《Baroque Cycle》,三本千页小说:《Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世纪的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的祖先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默的描绘。 : 书中用的十七世纪的文风也特别搞笑,这是他自己的书前自述: : Neal Stephenson issueth from a Clan of yeomen, itinerant Parsons, ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down. : 他和著名科幻作家William Gibson以及Bruce Sterling都是好友,原来在Slashdot上还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面: : The first time was a year or two after SNOW CRASH came out. I was doing a reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regeneration process, telescoping Carbonite stilettos had been incorporated into Gibson's arms. Remembering this in the nick of time, I grabbed the signing table and flipped it up between us. Of course the Carbonite stilettos pierced it as if it were cork board, but this spoiled his aim long enough for me to whip my wakizashi out from between my shoulder blades and swing at his head. He deflected the blow with a force blast that sprained my wrist. The falling table knocked over a space heater and set fire to the store. Everyone else fled. Gibson and I dueled among blazing stacks of books for a while. Slowly I gained the upper hand, for, on defense, his Praying Mantis style was no match for my Flying Cloud technique. But I lost him behind a cloud of smoke. Then I had to get out of the place. The streets were crowded with his black-suited minions and I had to turn into a swarm of locusts and fly back to Seattle. : http://bit.ly/o4aMTr : 后来,2008年,他出版了一千页的《Anathem》。一个遥远的星球上面的离奇事件。这个星球类似地球,但是有自己的语言和文化(Neal甚至自己创造了这个星球上的语言,秉承J.R.R Tolkien的传统)。这个星球上面的读书人和Geek都要单独生活在一个自己的社区,类似于中世纪的修道院,但是他们被规定不许生育。然后生活在修道院外面的“正常人”可以生育,但是如果发现了有Geek倾向的就给送到修道院里去培养。这样不会造成一个特殊的知识阶层,因为知识分子都不能生育,但是可以结婚,所有他们所从事的科研就不会为自己谋私,而且他们也不能有计算机,完全手算,因为历史上的计算机和武器技术曾经使他们遭遇灭种之灾。一艘外星飞船的到来彻底改变了这个星球上的修道院里面的一群年轻人的平静生活…
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 3 应该不会累吧,特好看,当然,如果你想我一样晚上不睡觉看他的书,也许会累的,呵
呵。
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你是不是以前推荐过他其他的书?好像有印象 : 听你描述的很吸引人,他的书非geek看会不会很累? : : 的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早 : 期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可 : 以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google : Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对 : 于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节 : 发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚 : 特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 4 好,那我回头放假了找来看看。谢谢推荐~
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 应该不会累吧,特好看,当然,如果你想我一样晚上不睡觉看他的书,也许会累的,呵 : 呵。
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j******n 发帖数: 21641 | 5 page tuner是故意拼错么
还有alan turing
hehe
找你bug好难
不过我在文海推荐了一篇关于neuromania的文章(批判经济学人的intelligent life杂志热捧过的某人的另外一篇发在Prospect的文章的,卫报对此人有过报道)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/aug/07/aping-mankind-raymo
的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早
期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可
以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google
Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对
于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节
发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚
特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。
这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给
出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Allan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人
入胜。
《Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世
纪的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的
祖先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《
Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑
。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是
非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默: 的描绘。
ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick
marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her
Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the
writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and
Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down.
还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面:
reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say
hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce
Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to
fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after
Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in
the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regenerat: ...................
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson和《Reamde》 : 我看Neal Stephenson的书有些年头了。最早知道这么个作家,是在读Slashdot网站的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共和国,海外有人工大陆新亚特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋… : 后来,1999年,Neal出版了巨著《Cryptonomicon》,探索科技,货币,黑客,二战等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Alan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人入胜。 : 几年以后,2003和2004年间,他出版了三部曲《Baroque Cycle》,三本千页小说:《Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世纪的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的祖先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默的描绘。 : 书中用的十七世纪的文风也特别搞笑,这是他自己的书前自述: : Neal Stephenson issueth from a Clan of yeomen, itinerant Parsons, ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down. : 他和著名科幻作家William Gibson以及Bruce Sterling都是好友,原来在Slashdot上还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面: : The first time was a year or two after SNOW CRASH came out. I was doing a reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regeneration process, telescoping Carbonite stilettos had been incorporated into Gibson's arms. Remembering this in the nick of time, I grabbed the signing table and flipped it up between us. Of course the Carbonite stilettos pierced it as if it were cork board, but this spoiled his aim long enough for me to whip my wakizashi out from between my shoulder blades and swing at his head. He deflected the blow with a force blast that sprained my wrist. The falling table knocked over a space heater and set fire to the store. Everyone else fled. Gibson and I dueled among blazing stacks of books for a while. Slowly I gained the upper hand, for, on defense, his Praying Mantis style was no match for my Flying Cloud technique. But I lost him behind a cloud of smoke. Then I had to get out of the place. The streets were crowded with his black-suited minions and I had to turn into a swarm of locusts and fly back to Seattle. : http://bit.ly/o4aMTr : 后来,2008年,他出版了一千页的《Anathem》。一个遥远的星球上面的离奇事件。这个星球类似地球,但是有自己的语言和文化(Neal甚至自己创造了这个星球上的语言,秉承J.R.R Tolkien的传统)。这个星球上面的读书人和Geek都要单独生活在一个自己的社区,类似于中世纪的修道院,但是他们被规定不许生育。然后生活在修道院外面的“正常人”可以生育,但是如果发现了有Geek倾向的就给送到修道院里去培养。这样不会造成一个特殊的知识阶层,因为知识分子都不能生育,但是可以结婚,所有他们所从事的科研就不会为自己谋私,而且他们也不能有计算机,完全手算,因为历史上的计算机和武器技术曾经使他们遭遇灭种之灾。一艘外星飞船的到来彻底改变了这个星球上的修道院里面的一群年轻人的平静生活…
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j******n 发帖数: 21641 | 6 应该比三体写得好吧
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你是不是以前推荐过他其他的书?好像有印象 : 听你描述的很吸引人,他的书非geek看会不会很累? : : 的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早 : 期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可 : 以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google : Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对 : 于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节 : 发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚 : 特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
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w**m 发帖数: 4061 | 7 哈哈 太好了 Bos你多发点书评吧 我个人给你双黄包答谢 |
j******n 发帖数: 21641 | 8
版六人选
【在 w**m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哈哈 太好了 Bos你多发点书评吧 我个人给你双黄包答谢
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 9 嘿嘿,那是考你的,就兴你考我坦坦啊?
Seriously,多谢指正。已经改过来了。
杂志热捧过的某人的另外一篇发在Prospect的文章的,卫报对此人有过报道)
【在 j******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : page tuner是故意拼错么 : 还有alan turing : hehe : 找你bug好难 : 不过我在文海推荐了一篇关于neuromania的文章(批判经济学人的intelligent life杂志热捧过的某人的另外一篇发在Prospect的文章的,卫报对此人有过报道) : http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/aug/07/aping-mankind-raymo : : 的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早 : 期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可 : 以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 10 多谢!当早餐吃了。
【在 w**m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哈哈 太好了 Bos你多发点书评吧 我个人给你双黄包答谢
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 11 Neal Stephenson不但小说写得好,而且non-fiction也很优秀。他以前在《Wired》上
的一篇长文,《Mother Earth Mother Board》就很有水准。
http://bit.ly/1lR4
他的另外一部non-fiction,《In the Beginning... Was the Command Line》,写得
也很好。
http://bit.ly/bzYhzG
但是后来他决定放弃non-fiction和杂志写作,说这些东西比fiction难写,而且相对报
酬太低,Research和fact checking都很花功夫,财力人力都吃不消。 |
p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 12 你以前提过一次,听上去很不错啊。
的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早
期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可
以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google
Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对
于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节
发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚
特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。
这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给
出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Alan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人
入胜。
《Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世
纪的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的
祖先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《
Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑
。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是
非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默: 的描绘。
ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick
marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her
Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the
writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and
Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down.
还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面:
reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say
hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce
Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to
fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after
Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in
the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regenerat: ...................
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson不但小说写得好,而且non-fiction也很优秀。他以前在《Wired》上 : 的一篇长文,《Mother Earth Mother Board》就很有水准。 : http://bit.ly/1lR4 : 他的另外一部non-fiction,《In the Beginning... Was the Command Line》,写得 : 也很好。 : http://bit.ly/bzYhzG : 但是后来他决定放弃non-fiction和杂志写作,说这些东西比fiction难写,而且相对报 : 酬太低,Research和fact checking都很花功夫,财力人力都吃不消。
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 13 发散一下
三体1我觉得很不错啊
2比1更好些
另外,支持大刘,也是支持中国科幻
中国科幻迷那么多,几十年了也才出来一个大刘
【在 j******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 应该比三体写得好吧
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 14 都不错,没有必要分个高下。好书越多越好,只要读者愿意读,就是好书。
题外话,科幻迷跟科幻质量没有必然联系。参见中国球迷,例如,足球的例子。
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 发散一下 : 三体1我觉得很不错啊 : 2比1更好些 : 另外,支持大刘,也是支持中国科幻 : 中国科幻迷那么多,几十年了也才出来一个大刘
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 15 没看三?
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 发散一下 : 三体1我觉得很不错啊 : 2比1更好些 : 另外,支持大刘,也是支持中国科幻 : 中国科幻迷那么多,几十年了也才出来一个大刘
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wh 发帖数: 141625 | 16 赞的。我不行哎,一眼看过去都是科技词看不懂。手稿好,我写文章也是先手写再打字
。不过我用铅笔,哈哈,更土。
的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早
期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可
以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google
Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对
于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节
发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚
特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。
这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给
出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Alan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人
入胜。
《Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世
纪的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的
祖先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《
Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑
。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是
非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默: 的描绘。
ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick
marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her
Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the
writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and
Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down.
还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面:
reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say
hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce
Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to
fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after
Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in
the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regenerat: ...................
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson不但小说写得好,而且non-fiction也很优秀。他以前在《Wired》上 : 的一篇长文,《Mother Earth Mother Board》就很有水准。 : http://bit.ly/1lR4 : 他的另外一部non-fiction,《In the Beginning... Was the Command Line》,写得 : 也很好。 : http://bit.ly/bzYhzG : 但是后来他决定放弃non-fiction和杂志写作,说这些东西比fiction难写,而且相对报 : 酬太低,Research和fact checking都很花功夫,财力人力都吃不消。
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wh 发帖数: 141625 | 17 哎呀你发给我一个双黄呀,是不是发错了?
【在 w**m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哈哈 太好了 Bos你多发点书评吧 我个人给你双黄包答谢
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wh 发帖数: 141625 | 18 他说要写kindle被抢时提过这些小说情节。被抢后来写了没有?
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你以前提过一次,听上去很不错啊。 : : 的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早 : 期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可 : 以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google : Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对 : 于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节 : 发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚 : 特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋… : 等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 19 应该是写了...没写完...这个...
【在 wh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 他说要写kindle被抢时提过这些小说情节。被抢后来写了没有?
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wh 发帖数: 141625 | 20 我看过前两帖,很技术。没看到怎么被抢……
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 应该是写了...没写完...这个...
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 21 我好像是写到了四,太久了,记不太请了,无奈我老迈年糕...
【在 wh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我看过前两帖,很技术。没看到怎么被抢……
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w**m 发帖数: 4061 | 22 你牛,我很羡慕还有手写的
这和那谁说的,若干年后,还看纸制书,用小本本记笔记的,都是老板的有闲阶级
【在 wh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 赞的。我不行哎,一眼看过去都是科技词看不懂。手稿好,我写文章也是先手写再打字 : 。不过我用铅笔,哈哈,更土。 : : 的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早 : 期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可 : 以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google : Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对 : 于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节 : 发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚 : 特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 23 3太扯了
虽然我看得很欢乐,但是很扯。
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 没看三?
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 24 当年适应敲键盘写文章适应得挺辛苦
现在特怀念那种三百字一页的绿格稿纸,字大行疏
可惜家里没有了
【在 wh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 赞的。我不行哎,一眼看过去都是科技词看不懂。手稿好,我写文章也是先手写再打字 : 。不过我用铅笔,哈哈,更土。 : : 的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早 : 期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可 : 以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google : Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对 : 于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节 : 发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚 : 特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 25 我也觉得2最好。不过3是没耐心仔细写。按说写成5本差不多。3的100页之后
基本就是提纲。
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 3太扯了 : 虽然我看得很欢乐,但是很扯。
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 26 我觉得到3他已经不知道自己在说什么了
他说的那些已经超越了他自己的想象力
但是前面手笔已经这么大,3怎么也超越不了,只好挑战想象力极限
所以聪明的作者不会把科幻写太长
去年看了不少星云奖作品
很多写的很好的故事也只有一层,揭开了故事就结束了
层层推进其实很难,而他试图在每一本上都推进一层
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也觉得2最好。不过3是没耐心仔细写。按说写成5本差不多。3的100页之后 : 基本就是提纲。
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 27 我倒是觉得天渊比深渊上的火写的好。不过很多人不那么觉得。
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我觉得到3他已经不知道自己在说什么了 : 他说的那些已经超越了他自己的想象力 : 但是前面手笔已经这么大,3怎么也超越不了,只好挑战想象力极限 : 所以聪明的作者不会把科幻写太长 : 去年看了不少星云奖作品 : 很多写的很好的故事也只有一层,揭开了故事就结束了 : 层层推进其实很难,而他试图在每一本上都推进一层
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j******n 发帖数: 21641 | 28 现在要容易得多
记得以前查个资料在图书馆的臭书架里要泡好久
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson不但小说写得好,而且non-fiction也很优秀。他以前在《Wired》上 : 的一篇长文,《Mother Earth Mother Board》就很有水准。 : http://bit.ly/1lR4 : 他的另外一部non-fiction,《In the Beginning... Was the Command Line》,写得 : 也很好。 : http://bit.ly/bzYhzG : 但是后来他决定放弃non-fiction和杂志写作,说这些东西比fiction难写,而且相对报 : 酬太低,Research和fact checking都很花功夫,财力人力都吃不消。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 29 他写non-fiction大约是十年前吧,不过,核实数据,很多时候不是一Google就能行的
。例如,他要调查某著名建筑的电话和通信线路的布线,和布线的历史,要到市政厅的
有关建筑部门去核实,看图纸,等等,这些东西都不在网上,要跟市政厅预约,等等,
写小说,相对而言做的Research不需要那么严格。大致齐就行了。
【在 j******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 现在要容易得多 : 记得以前查个资料在图书馆的臭书架里要泡好久
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 30 有什么需要适应的呢?难道不是打开Word就开始敲字?绿格稿纸爬起来太慢,我刚来美
国的时候还带来了一些,现在如果还在的话就是文物了。
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 当年适应敲键盘写文章适应得挺辛苦 : 现在特怀念那种三百字一页的绿格稿纸,字大行疏 : 可惜家里没有了
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 31 我不是的
刚开始用term的时候,看见别人发文章,也想写
对着蓝屏幕写不出来
敲字和思考相互冲突
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 32 原来如此。记得原来看Neal的采访时说,用笔写字因为比较慢,言词下笔的时候都在大
脑里面的缓冲区内多留存了一下子,在脑子里多晃了一阵子,写出来的时候就更加有章
法,更有力度。这样比先写出一大堆,然后再修改要强很多。好文都是写出来的,而不
是改出来的,正如好程序不是靠多次debug出来的,好作家和好程序员有类似之处。
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我不是的 : 刚开始用term的时候,看见别人发文章,也想写 : 对着蓝屏幕写不出来 : 敲字和思考相互冲突 : 现在适应了反而回不
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h******e 发帖数: 121 | 33 对的,俺家那个Nerd就特别喜欢这个作家。
家里一排砖头厚的小说…… |
wh 发帖数: 141625 | 34 yeah. 上次看到余秋雨说他的新书《我等不到了》是呕心沥血一字一句写出来的,珍惜
地称为“纯手工写作”。唉他真是坚持不懈地做作啊。不过他的早期文章对我还是很有
启迪的,文采也是有的。就是为人欠缺了点。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 原来如此。记得原来看Neal的采访时说,用笔写字因为比较慢,言词下笔的时候都在大 : 脑里面的缓冲区内多留存了一下子,在脑子里多晃了一阵子,写出来的时候就更加有章 : 法,更有力度。这样比先写出一大堆,然后再修改要强很多。好文都是写出来的,而不 : 是改出来的,正如好程序不是靠多次debug出来的,好作家和好程序员有类似之处。
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g*****y 发帖数: 1488 | 35 Neal Stephenson 的Cryptonomicon 是我看的第一本他的书,只觉得大部头的书从来没
看得这么爽过。里面的段落,比如形容Captain Crunch麦片怎么好吃,又说Waterhouse
家分财产时如何按大家愿意抱着那些东西跑多远决定等等,到现在想起来都记忆鲜明。
Snow Crash 和Diamond Age也都不错。(但大家公认他书的问题 --场子摊太大,结尾
往往不了了之或一盘散沙 -- 这两部都有。) 后来出Baroque Cycle,第一部我兴奋地
看到一半,从Jack因为梅毒神经错乱开始突然lost the plot,就再也没拾起来过。他
的书太重,也是没再拾起来的部分原因。所以看到LZ提醒说可以Kindle上看他新书,非
常高兴,好象刚刚听说久在外地的朋友马上要搬到同一个城里了。 |
b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 36 //hand
Waterhouse
。
我印象很深的是一段描述为什么大家看见穿黑丝袜的觉得很性感的议论,觉得特别有意
思。
大家不是说他不会收尾吗?所以这次Reamde收尾就收得特别干净,然后又有人抱怨为什
么收尾那么干净利落,没有了遐想空间,呵呵。真难伺候!
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson 的Cryptonomicon 是我看的第一本他的书,只觉得大部头的书从来没 : 看得这么爽过。里面的段落,比如形容Captain Crunch麦片怎么好吃,又说Waterhouse : 家分财产时如何按大家愿意抱着那些东西跑多远决定等等,到现在想起来都记忆鲜明。 : Snow Crash 和Diamond Age也都不错。(但大家公认他书的问题 --场子摊太大,结尾 : 往往不了了之或一盘散沙 -- 这两部都有。) 后来出Baroque Cycle,第一部我兴奋地 : 看到一半,从Jack因为梅毒神经错乱开始突然lost the plot,就再也没拾起来过。他 : 的书太重,也是没再拾起来的部分原因。所以看到LZ提醒说可以Kindle上看他新书,非 : 常高兴,好象刚刚听说久在外地的朋友马上要搬到同一个城里了。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 37
我在Confusion和The System of the World之间也间隔了几个月,就把前面的一些情节
给忘了。后来又读了一遍。虽然知道了结局,读起来还是饶有趣味,记得有一段在荷兰
海岸和龙骑兵追帆车的情形,记忆犹新。
他的书,拿起来就放不下,看完了千页以后还想接着来,呵呵。
他的书很早就有电子版了,原来纽约公共图书馆的电子书借阅部就有,是mobi pocket
格式的,但是由于加密,不能用于Kindle,我实在Palm PDA上看过的,那个Anathem也
是。
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson 的Cryptonomicon 是我看的第一本他的书,只觉得大部头的书从来没 : 看得这么爽过。里面的段落,比如形容Captain Crunch麦片怎么好吃,又说Waterhouse : 家分财产时如何按大家愿意抱着那些东西跑多远决定等等,到现在想起来都记忆鲜明。 : Snow Crash 和Diamond Age也都不错。(但大家公认他书的问题 --场子摊太大,结尾 : 往往不了了之或一盘散沙 -- 这两部都有。) 后来出Baroque Cycle,第一部我兴奋地 : 看到一半,从Jack因为梅毒神经错乱开始突然lost the plot,就再也没拾起来过。他 : 的书太重,也是没再拾起来的部分原因。所以看到LZ提醒说可以Kindle上看他新书,非 : 常高兴,好象刚刚听说久在外地的朋友马上要搬到同一个城里了。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 38 wh现在就是“老板的有闲阶级”,呵呵。
【在 w**m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你牛,我很羡慕还有手写的 : 这和那谁说的,若干年后,还看纸制书,用小本本记笔记的,都是老板的有闲阶级
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 39 那些星云作品?很多有趣的吗?
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我不是的 : 刚开始用term的时候,看见别人发文章,也想写 : 对着蓝屏幕写不出来 : 敲字和思考相互冲突 : 现在适应了反而回不
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 40 天渊是A deepness in the sky的中文译名吗?
深渊上的火应该就是A fire upon the deep了?我都不知道有中译本出来了。什么时候
中文书要是有一个数据库就好了,什么书是否有中译本可以查一下。
现在亚马逊应该是一个事实上的英文书数据库了吧。
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我倒是觉得天渊比深渊上的火写的好。不过很多人不那么觉得。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 41 你的文章都是用Term敲出来的?那机器一挂你就惨了。没有用Word再粘贴吗?
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我不是的 : 刚开始用term的时候,看见别人发文章,也想写 : 对着蓝屏幕写不出来 : 敲字和思考相互冲突 : 现在适应了反而回不
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 42 那这个Nerd应该跟你们家的那个Nerd好好握握手,呵呵。
【在 h******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 对的,俺家那个Nerd就特别喜欢这个作家。 : 家里一排砖头厚的小说……
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 43 文章当然都是“纯手工写作”。机器写的基本上是惨不忍睹。
为人欠缺不要紧,只要文章不欠缺。
那个谁不是说,“I am vulgar, but my music is not vulgar”吗?
【在 wh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : yeah. 上次看到余秋雨说他的新书《我等不到了》是呕心沥血一字一句写出来的,珍惜 : 地称为“纯手工写作”。唉他真是坚持不懈地做作啊。不过他的早期文章对我还是很有 : 启迪的,文采也是有的。就是为人欠缺了点。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 44 摘抄一段那段黑丝袜和sex的议论,很长,微色,慎入:
Note to myself: let’s see "Letters to Penthouse" print this!
I don’t suppose that graduate students of either gender are exactly sought
out by sexual connoisseurs for their great fucking skills. We think about it
too much. Everything has to be verbalized. A person who believes that
fucking is a sexual discourse is simply never going to be any good in the
sack.
I have a thing about stockings. They have to be sheer black stockings,
preferably with seams up the back. When I was thirteen years old I actually
shoplifted some black pantyhose from a grocery store just so that I could
play with them. Walking out of that store with those L’eggs in my backpack,
my heart was pounding, but the excitement of the crime was nothing compared
to opening up the package and pulling them out, rubbing them against my
fuzzy, adolescent cheeks. I even tried pulling them on, but this just looked
grotesque—what with my hairy legs—and did absolutely nothing for me. I
didn’t want to wear them. I wanted someone else to. I masturbated four
times that day.
It disturbed the shit out of me when I thought about it. I was a smart boy.
Smart boys are supposed to be rational. So, when I was in college I figured
out a rationalization for this. There wasn’t that many women who wore sheer
black stockings in college, but sometimes I would go into the city and see
the well-dressed office workers walking down the street on their lunch
breaks and make scientific observations of their legs. I noticed that where
the stocking stretched itself thin to go over a wide part of the leg, such
as the muscle of the calf, it became paler. just as a colored balloon
becomes paler when it is inflated. Conversely, it was darker in narrow
regions such as the ankle. This made the calf look more shapely and the
ankle look more slender. The legs, as a whole, looked healthier, implying
that just above the place where they joined together, a higher class of DNA
was to be found.
Q.E.D. My thing about black stockings was a highly rational adaptation. It
merely proved how smart I was, how rational even the most irrational parts
of my brain were. Sex held no power over me. It was nothing to fear.
This was quintessentially sophomoric thinking, but nowadays most educated
people hold quintessentially sophomoric opinions well into their thirties
and so this stuck with me for a long time. My wife Virginia probably had
some equally self-serving rationalization for her own sexual needs—of which
I was not to become aware for many years. So it’s no surprise that our
premarital sex life was mediocre. Neither one of us admitted it was mediocre
, of course. If I had admitted it, I would have had to admit that it was
mediocre because Virginia didn’t like to wear stockings, and at the time I
was too concerned with being a Sensitive New Age Guy to admit such heresy, I
loved Virginia for her mind. How could I be so shallow, so insensitive, so
perverse as to spurn her because she didn’t like to pull filmy tubes of
nylon over her legs? As a pudgy nerd, I was lucky to have her.
Five years into our marriage, I attended the Comdex convention as president
of a small new high-tech company. I was a little less pudgy and a little
less nerdy. I met a marketing girl for a big software distribution chain.
She was wearing sheer black stockings. We ended up fucking in my hotel room.
It was the best sex I’d ever had. I went home baffled and ashamed. After
that, my sex life with Virginia was pretty miserable. We had sex maybe a
dozen times over the next couple of years.
Virginia’s grandmother died and we went back to upstate New York for the
funeral. Virginia had to wear a dress, which meant she had to shave her legs
and wear stockings—something she’d done on only a handful of occasions
since our marriage. I practically fell over when I saw her, and suffered
through the funeral with a big, scratchy erection, trying to figure out how
I could get her alone.
Now, Granny had lived by herself in a big old house on a hill until a couple
of months earlier when she had fallen down and broken her hip, and been
moved into a nursing home. All of her children, grandchildren, and great-
grandchildren came together for the funeral, and that house became the
central gathering-place. It was a nice place full of good old furniture, but
in her declining years Granny had become something of a compulsive pack rat
and so there were heaps of newspapers and accumulated mail squirreled away
everywhere. In the end we had to haul away several truckloads of junk.
In some other ways, Granny had been pretty well-organized and had left
behind a very specific last will and testament. Each one of her descendants
knew exactly which pieces of furniture, dishes, rugs, and curios they were
going to take home. She had a lot of possessions, but she also had a lot of
descendants, and so the loot had to be sliced pretty thin. Virginia ended up
with a black walnut dresser which was stored in an unused bedroom. We went
up there to have a look at it, and I ended up fucking her there. I stood up
with the flimsy trousers of my dark suit collapsed around my ankles while
she sat on top of that dresser with her legs wrapped around me and her
stocking-clad heels digging into my butt-cheeks. It was the best fuck we’d
ever had, bar none. Fortunately there were a lot of people eating, drinking,
and talking downstairs or they would have heard her moaning and hollering.
I finally came clean to her about the stockings. It felt good. I’d been
reading a lot about how the brain develops and had finally come to accept my
stocking kink. It seems that when you are a certain age, somewhere between
about two and five years, your mind just gels. The part of it that’s
responsible for sex becomes set into a pattern that you’ll carry with you
for the rest of your life. All of the gay people I’ve ever discussed it
with have told me that they knew they were gay, or at least different, years
before they even began thinking about sex, and all of them agree that
gayness cannot be converted into straightness, or vice versa, no matter how
hard you might try.
The part of your brain that handles sex frequently gets cross-wired into
other, seemingly irrelevant areas at this age. This is when people pick up
an orientation towards sexual dominance or submission, or when a lot of guys
pick up highly specific kinks—say, rubber, feathers, or shoes. Some of
them are unfortunate enough to get turned on by little kids, and those guys
are essentially doomed from that point onwards—there is nothing to do
except castrate them or lock them up. No therapy will unkink the brain once
it has kinked.
So, all things considered, being turned on by black stockings wasn’t such a
bad sexual card to have been dealt. I laid this all out to Virginia during
the trip home. I was surprised by how calmly she accepted it. I was too big
of a jerk to realize that she was thinking about how it all applied to her.
After we got back home, she gamely went out and bought some stockings and
tried to wear them on occasion. This was not easy. Stockings imply a whole
lifestyle. They look stupid with jeans and sneakers. A woman in stockings
has to wear a dress or a skirt, and not just a blue denim skirt but
something nicer, more formal. She also has to wear the type of shoes that
Virginia didn’t own and didn’t like to wear. Stockings are not really
compatible with riding a bicycle to work. They were not even really
compatible with our house. During our frugal grad-student days we had
accumulated a lot of furniture from Goodwill, or I had hammered it together
myself out of two-by-fours. This furniture turned out to be riddled with
hidden snags that a person in blue jeans would never notice but that would
destroy a pair of stockings in a moment. Likewise, our half-finished house
and our old junker cars had many small sharp edges that were death to
stockings. On the other hand, when we went away for an anniversary trip to
London, getting around in black taxis, staying in a nice hotel, and eating
in good restaurants, we spent a whole week moving in a world that was
perfectly adapted to stockings. It just went to show us how radically we
would have to change our circumstances in order for her to dress that way
routinely.
So, much money was spent on stockings in a fit of good intentions. Some good
sex was had, though I seemed to enjoy it much more than Virginia did. She
never achieved the shocking, animal intensity she had shown at Granny’s
house after the funeral. Attrition reduced her supply of stockings very
quickly, sheer inconvenience prevented her from renewing it, and within a
year after the funeral we were back to square one.
Other things were changing, though. I made a lot of money by cashing in some
stock options, and we bought a new house up in the hills. We hired some
movers to come pick up all of our junky furniture and move it into that
house, where it looked much shabbier. Virginia’s new job forced her to
commute in a car. I didn’t think our old junker was safe, and so I bought
her a nice little Lexus with leather seats and wool carpet, all of it nicely
snag-free. Soon, kids came along and I traded in my old beater pickup truck
for a minivan.
Still, I couldn’t bring myself to begin spending money on furniture until
my back started going bad on me, and I realized it was because of the slack,
twenty-year-old Goodwill mattress that Virginia and I were sleeping on. We
had to buy a new bed. Since it was my back at stake, I went out and did the
shopping.
I ’d rather stub out cigarettes on my tongue than go shopping. The idea of
hitting every big furniture store in the area, comparing beds, made me want
to die. All I wanted was to go to one place and buy a bed and have done with
it. But I didn’t want a shitty bed that I’d be sick of in a year, or a
cheap mattress that would mess up my back again in five years.
So I went straight down to my local Gomer Bolstrood Home Gallery. I had
heard people talk about Gomer Bolstrood furniture. Women, in particular,
seemed to speak of it in hushed, religious tones. Their factory was said to
be up in some New England town where they had been based for the last three
hundred years. It was said that loose curls of walnut and oak from Gomer
Bolstroods block plane had been used as tinder beneath the pyres of
convicted witches. Gomer Bolstrood was the answer to a question I’d been
ruminating over ever since Granny’s funeral, namely: where does all of this
high-quality grandma furniture come from? In every family, young people go
to grandma’s house for Thanksgiving, or other obligatory visits, and lust
over the nice antique furniture, wondering which pieces they will take home
when the old lady kicks the bucket. Some people lose patience and go to
estate sales or antique stores and buy the stuff.
But if the supply of old, high-grade, heirloom-quality furniture is fixed,
then where will the grannys of the future come from? I could see a situation
, half a century in the future, when Virginia’s and my descendants would
all be squabbling over that one black walnut dresser, while bringing in
Ryder trucks to haul the rest of our stuff straight to the dump. As the
population grows, and the supply of old furniture remains constant, this
kind of thing is inevitable. There must be a source for new granny-grade
furniture, or else the Americans of tomorrow will all end up sitting in
vinyl beanbag chairs, leaking little foam beads all over the floor.
The answer is Gomer Bolstrood, and the price is high. Each Gomer Bolstrood
chair and table really ought to come in a little felt-lined box, like a
piece of jewelry. But at the time, I was rich and impatient. So I drove to
Gomer Bolstrood and stormed through the door, only to be brought up short by
a receptionist. I felt tacky in my white tennis shoes and jeans. She had
probably seen a lot of high-tech millionaires come through those doors, and
took it pretty calmly. Before I knew it a middle-aged woman had emerged from
the back of the store and appointed herself my personal design consultant.
Her name was Margaret. "Where are the beds?" I asked. She stiffened and
informed me that this not the kind of place where you could walk into a Bed
Room and see a row of beds lined up like pig’s feet at a butcher shop. A
Gomer Bolstrood Home Design Gallery consists of a series of exquisitely
decorated rooms, some of which happen to be bedrooms and to contain beds.
Once we had that all straightened out. Margaret showed me the bedrooms. As
she led me from one room to the next. I couldn’t help noticing that she was
wearing black stockings with seams up the back—perfectly straight seams.
My erotic feelings for Margaret made me uncomfortable. For a while, I had to
restrain the impulse to say "just sell me the biggest, most expensive bed
you have." Margaret showed me beds in different styles. The names of the
styles meant nothing to me. Some looked modern and some looked old-fashioned
. I pointed to a very large, high four-poster that looked like granny
furniture and said. "I’ll take one of those."
There was a three-month delay while the bed was hand-carved by New England
craftsmen working at the same wage as plumbers or psychotherapists. Then it
showed up at our house and was assembled by technicians in white coveralls,
like the guys who work in semiconductor chip fabrication plants. Virginia
came home from work. She was wearing a denim skirt, heavy wool socks, and
Birkenstocks. The kids were still at school. We had sex on the bed. I
performed dutifully enough, I suppose. I could not really sustain an
erection and ended up with my head stuck between her bristly thighs. Even
with my ears blocked by her quadriceps. I could hear her moaning and
screaming. She went into erotic convulsions near the end, and almost snapped
my neck. Her climax must have lasted for two or three full minutes. This
was the moment when I first came to terms with the fact that Virginia could
not achieve orgasm unless she was in close proximity to—preferably on top
of—a piece of heirloom-grade furniture that she owned.
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : //hand : : Waterhouse : 。 : 我印象很深的是一段描述为什么大家看见穿黑丝袜的觉得很性感的议论,觉得特别有意 : 思。 : 大家不是说他不会收尾吗?所以这次Reamde收尾就收得特别干净,然后又有人抱怨为什 : 么收尾那么干净利落,没有了遐想空间,呵呵。真难伺候!
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g*****y 发帖数: 1488 | 45 更加期待了!
嗯,他的书每一本都是很宏大的世界,所以可以让人plunge下去不想上岸。我好象对这
类书的需要是周期性的。
哦,上次想起来拿Kindle 看David G. McCullough的书也应该很好。强荐 The Path
Between the Seas,说造巴拿马运河的,也是大部头中的page turner。
pocket
太晚了,明天读你贴的黑丝袜吧。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 摘抄一段那段黑丝袜和sex的议论,很长,微色,慎入: : Note to myself: let’s see "Letters to Penthouse" print this! : I don’t suppose that graduate students of either gender are exactly sought : out by sexual connoisseurs for their great fucking skills. We think about it : too much. Everything has to be verbalized. A person who believes that : fucking is a sexual discourse is simply never going to be any good in the : sack. : I have a thing about stockings. They have to be sheer black stockings, : preferably with seams up the back. When I was thirteen years old I actually : shoplifted some black pantyhose from a grocery store just so that I could
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 46 嗯,我也觉得天渊写得更好
同样是异型世界,他写人和蜘蛛人之间的关系让我觉得很有共鸣
在知道蜘蛛人的真相之后,那个世界仍然让我感受到共通的情感
相比之下,思想共同体这个概念对我可能太超越了,看着始终有隔膜
一般认为深渊上的火更好么?也许是因为那个体验更新奇?
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我倒是觉得天渊比深渊上的火写的好。不过很多人不那么觉得。
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 47 去年搜到的一个中译本集合,很多,两百多本,不全是星云作品。当时就想看科幻,主
要是补习一下基地系列,后来一口气看了几十本。看了之后发现套路就那么几个,真的
去构架一个全新世界的还是少数,大部分是提一个谜团,然后揭一个谜底,很多谜团设
置得很好,但是迷底揭开有好有坏,让人觉得不过瘾。全新构架的,有的太新了,有隔
膜;有的又过于贴近人类情感,少点创意。当然写得都不错,不然也不会得奖了。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那些星云作品?很多有趣的吗?
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 48 我现在很少用term了,——我用term灌水太快,太花时间。现在一般都用word写。
昨晚睡前读了这一段,很佩服,写得真好。期待读他的小说~
sought
it
actually
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 摘抄一段那段黑丝袜和sex的议论,很长,微色,慎入: : Note to myself: let’s see "Letters to Penthouse" print this! : I don’t suppose that graduate students of either gender are exactly sought : out by sexual connoisseurs for their great fucking skills. We think about it : too much. Everything has to be verbalized. A person who believes that : fucking is a sexual discourse is simply never going to be any good in the : sack. : I have a thing about stockings. They have to be sheer black stockings, : preferably with seams up the back. When I was thirteen years old I actually : shoplifted some black pantyhose from a grocery store just so that I could
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X***y 发帖数: 3947 | 49 听着很诱人,谢谢推荐!
的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早
期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可
以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google
Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对
于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节
发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚
特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。
这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给
出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Alan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人
入胜。
《Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世
纪的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的
祖先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《
Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑
。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是
非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默: 的描绘。
ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick
marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her
Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the
writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and
Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down.
还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面:
reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say
hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce
Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to
fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after
Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in
the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regenerat: ...................
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson不但小说写得好,而且non-fiction也很优秀。他以前在《Wired》上 : 的一篇长文,《Mother Earth Mother Board》就很有水准。 : http://bit.ly/1lR4 : 他的另外一部non-fiction,《In the Beginning... Was the Command Line》,写得 : 也很好。 : http://bit.ly/bzYhzG : 但是后来他决定放弃non-fiction和杂志写作,说这些东西比fiction难写,而且相对报 : 酬太低,Research和fact checking都很花功夫,财力人力都吃不消。
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g*****y 发帖数: 1488 | 50 最近在车里听Bill Bryson自己读的audiobook听多了,看这文时好象耳朵旁边还是Bill
Bryson的和气小老头的声音在读,有点串味的感觉,很逗。
sought
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 摘抄一段那段黑丝袜和sex的议论,很长,微色,慎入: : Note to myself: let’s see "Letters to Penthouse" print this! : I don’t suppose that graduate students of either gender are exactly sought : out by sexual connoisseurs for their great fucking skills. We think about it : too much. Everything has to be verbalized. A person who believes that : fucking is a sexual discourse is simply never going to be any good in the : sack. : I have a thing about stockings. They have to be sheer black stockings, : preferably with seams up the back. When I was thirteen years old I actually : shoplifted some black pantyhose from a grocery store just so that I could
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 51 Neal Stephenson和《Reamde》
我看Neal Stephenson的书有些年头了。最早知道这么个作家,是在读Slashdot网站的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共和国,海外有人工大陆新亚特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
后来,1999年,Neal出版了巨著《Cryptonomicon》,探索科技,货币,黑客,二战等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Alan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人入胜。
几年以后,2003和2004年间,他出版了三部曲《Baroque Cycle》,三本千页小说:《Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世纪的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的祖先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默的描绘。
书中用的十七世纪的文风也特别搞笑,这是他自己的书前自述:
Neal Stephenson issueth from a Clan of yeomen, itinerant Parsons, ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down.
他和著名科幻作家William Gibson以及Bruce Sterling都是好友,原来在Slashdot上还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面:
The first time was a year or two after SNOW CRASH came out. I was doing a reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regeneration process, telescoping Carbonite stilettos had been incorporated into Gibson's arms. Remembering this in the nick of time, I grabbed the signing table and flipped it up between us. Of course the Carbonite stilettos pierced it as if it were cork board, but this spoiled his aim long enough for me to whip my wakizashi out from between my shoulder blades and swing at his head. He deflected the blow with a force blast that sprained my wrist. The falling table knocked over a space heater and set fire to the store. Everyone else fled. Gibson and I dueled among blazing stacks of books for a while. Slowly I gained the upper hand, for, on defense, his Praying Mantis style was no match for my Flying Cloud technique. But I lost him behind a cloud of smoke. Then I had to get out of the place. The streets were crowded with his black-suited minions and I had to turn into a swarm of locusts and fly back to Seattle.
http://bit.ly/o4aMTr
后来,2008年,他出版了一千页的《Anathem》。一个遥远的星球上面的离奇事件。这个星球类似地球,但是有自己的语言和文化(Neal甚至自己创造了这个星球上的语言,秉承J.R.R Tolkien的传统)。这个星球上面的读书人和Geek都要单独生活在一个自己的社区,类似于中世纪的修道院,但是他们被规定不许生育。然后生活在修道院外面的“正常人”可以生育,但是如果发现了有Geek倾向的就给送到修道院里去培养。这样不会造成一个特殊的知识阶层,因为知识分子都不能生育,但是可以结婚,所有他们所从事的科研就不会为自己谋私,而且他们也不能有计算机,完全手算,因为历史上的计算机和武器技术曾经使他们遭遇灭种之灾。一艘外星飞船的到来彻底改变了这个星球上的修道院里面的一群年轻人的平静生活…
这本书里面探讨了很多哲学问题,把哲学问题融入故事的情节中,最后还有附录特别探讨书中的哲学和数学问题。在小说里面,作者反复探讨了唯心唯物,精神物质,二元论等等哲学问题,放在一个不同于地球历史的参考体系中,有不同于我们通常的哲学历史的框架来重新探讨这些概念,而且是从外星人的角度,是爱动脑筋的人的很好的智力体操。
基本上,Neal的写作风格可以描述成两点:infodump,以及电影里面的慢镜头一样的生动的情节动作描写。
本来,Infodump是个科幻小说里面的贬义词,说作者脱离情节交代大量的信息,跟上课一样,科幻里面很常见,类似于Technobubble。但是,不知道为何,Stephenson的Infodump还特别好看。也许是,第一,Stephenson特别渊博,懂得特别多;此次,Stephenson特别能写,复杂的道理能讲得深入浅出,而且特别适合Geek的口味。然后,就是Stephenson对于超复杂的情节的把握能力和对于动作的电影慢动作似的精彩描写,在《Snow Crash》和《Diamond Age》里面格外出彩。也许这个叫组形散而神不散?
有趣的是,这样的一个Geek作家,居然用钢笔写作,然后自己type up成出版社的手稿。他说这样的散文质量高一些。
Stephenson手稿
今年九月份,另一部一千页的大部头,《Readme》出版了。他最近几年出版的书,每一本都可以当成杀人凶器,一千页的书,加上hard cover,拿在手上真是沉。幸亏我现在有了轻便的Kindle 4,才没有弄成腕关节脱臼。
几个星期前拿到这本书,两个星期看完了。好几天晚上都是四点钟上的床,好几次都想请病假在家读书。彻彻底底的Page turner。读完了以后,一个最明显的感觉就是,比起上一本《Anathem》来,这本书里面多了很多精彩的情节和动作,但是少了很多哲学数学和计算机方面的思考。但是,这个并不妨碍本书的故事性和精彩程度,只是在新概念的发掘上,没有《Anathem》和《Snow Crash》那样跨时代。而且,这本书里还对自己在《Snow Crash》里面提出的Google Earth的概念作了小小self-parody,很charming。而且,本身的语言上,也比Baroque时代的tongue-in-cheek的十七世纪文体有了截然不同,而且这次也没有创造另外一部新语言。这一次用的是平易的英语。
故事头一百五十页是一个很复杂的开始:中国厦门的一个病毒作者马龙,写了一个病毒,感染玩电子游戏T’Rain的玩家。T’Rain是一个类似World of Warcraft的游戏,但是游戏里面的金矿和游戏外面的钱币是可以转换的。可以用美元欧元人民币买游戏里面的金币,然后买武器,也可以在游戏里面抢夺挣金币,然后兑换成游戏外面的现金。这样就给国际洗钱份子提供了一个平台。这个病毒叫做Reamde,故意拼错了的Readme。感染了病毒的玩家的Documents文件夹被加密,要到游戏里面去交相当于七十美金的金币才能拿到解密匙。显然,没有这个游戏,这样的作者马上会被抓住的,游戏提供了一个国际转账和匿名的机制。
然后,俄国黑帮老大的trader的计算机染毒了,但是在游戏中交赎金的时候,由于其他玩家的阻挠,(游戏中有组织的匪帮抢劫去交赎金的玩家),黑帮老大没法交赎金,最后,一怒之下,带上了几个Hacker和前俄罗斯特种兵,包机非法进入厦门,(应该是贿赂了有关官员)准备去抓住马龙要解密匙。
在一栋废置的大楼内,马龙和同伙正在游戏中收取赎金,他们不知道的是,楼下住着一个从菲律宾逃来的穆斯林恐怖分子阿卜杜拉,以及他的新疆支持者。对面大楼里,有MI6的亚裔女谍,化名孟安澜的Olivia来监视他(当然没有通知我公安机关和国安机关)。客家女导游玉霞也牵扯了进来。最后,阴错阳差,俄国特种兵袭击了新疆恐怖分子,混战中两败俱伤,炸塌了大楼;恐怖分子劫持了俄国黑帮的包机逃离厦门;俄国特种兵头目和MI6女谍逃到金门;Hacker们劫持了恐怖分子的一条渔船流落菲律宾,遭遇追缉阿卜杜拉的美军特种部队…
这里就不剧透了,总之,开头一百五十页只是一个引子,精彩纷呈的情节还在后面,枪战,航海,飞行,劫持反劫持,游戏世界里面的平行发展的战争,游戏里和游戏外世界的金钱流通,等等。一千页的纯阅读享受。
情节紧张,一环套一环,基本上,晚饭后我就一直读到午夜以后,然后在地铁上,床上继续,沉浸在故事的两个世界里面不能自拔。
结束了以后,又感到一些失落,重新回到了平常世界… |
w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 52 你是不是以前推荐过他其他的书?好像有印象
听你描述的很吸引人,他的书非geek看会不会很累?
的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早
期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可
以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google
Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对
于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节
发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚
特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。
这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给
出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Allan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人
入胜。
Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世纪
的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的祖
先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《
Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑
。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是
非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默的描: 绘。
ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick
marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her
Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the
writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and
Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down.
还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面:
reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say
hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce
Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to
fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after
Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in
the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regenerat: ...................
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson和《Reamde》 : 我看Neal Stephenson的书有些年头了。最早知道这么个作家,是在读Slashdot网站的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共和国,海外有人工大陆新亚特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋… : 后来,1999年,Neal出版了巨著《Cryptonomicon》,探索科技,货币,黑客,二战等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Alan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人入胜。 : 几年以后,2003和2004年间,他出版了三部曲《Baroque Cycle》,三本千页小说:《Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世纪的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的祖先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默的描绘。 : 书中用的十七世纪的文风也特别搞笑,这是他自己的书前自述: : Neal Stephenson issueth from a Clan of yeomen, itinerant Parsons, ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down. : 他和著名科幻作家William Gibson以及Bruce Sterling都是好友,原来在Slashdot上还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面: : The first time was a year or two after SNOW CRASH came out. I was doing a reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regeneration process, telescoping Carbonite stilettos had been incorporated into Gibson's arms. Remembering this in the nick of time, I grabbed the signing table and flipped it up between us. Of course the Carbonite stilettos pierced it as if it were cork board, but this spoiled his aim long enough for me to whip my wakizashi out from between my shoulder blades and swing at his head. He deflected the blow with a force blast that sprained my wrist. The falling table knocked over a space heater and set fire to the store. Everyone else fled. Gibson and I dueled among blazing stacks of books for a while. Slowly I gained the upper hand, for, on defense, his Praying Mantis style was no match for my Flying Cloud technique. But I lost him behind a cloud of smoke. Then I had to get out of the place. The streets were crowded with his black-suited minions and I had to turn into a swarm of locusts and fly back to Seattle. : http://bit.ly/o4aMTr : 后来,2008年,他出版了一千页的《Anathem》。一个遥远的星球上面的离奇事件。这个星球类似地球,但是有自己的语言和文化(Neal甚至自己创造了这个星球上的语言,秉承J.R.R Tolkien的传统)。这个星球上面的读书人和Geek都要单独生活在一个自己的社区,类似于中世纪的修道院,但是他们被规定不许生育。然后生活在修道院外面的“正常人”可以生育,但是如果发现了有Geek倾向的就给送到修道院里去培养。这样不会造成一个特殊的知识阶层,因为知识分子都不能生育,但是可以结婚,所有他们所从事的科研就不会为自己谋私,而且他们也不能有计算机,完全手算,因为历史上的计算机和武器技术曾经使他们遭遇灭种之灾。一艘外星飞船的到来彻底改变了这个星球上的修道院里面的一群年轻人的平静生活…
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 53 应该不会累吧,特好看,当然,如果你想我一样晚上不睡觉看他的书,也许会累的,呵
呵。
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你是不是以前推荐过他其他的书?好像有印象 : 听你描述的很吸引人,他的书非geek看会不会很累? : : 的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早 : 期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可 : 以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google : Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对 : 于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节 : 发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚 : 特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 54 好,那我回头放假了找来看看。谢谢推荐~
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 应该不会累吧,特好看,当然,如果你想我一样晚上不睡觉看他的书,也许会累的,呵 : 呵。
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j******n 发帖数: 21641 | 55 page tuner是故意拼错么
还有alan turing
hehe
找你bug好难
不过我在文海推荐了一篇关于neuromania的文章(批判经济学人的intelligent life杂志热捧过的某人的另外一篇发在Prospect的文章的,卫报对此人有过报道)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/aug/07/aping-mankind-raymo
的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早
期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可
以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google
Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对
于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节
发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚
特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。
这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给
出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Allan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人
入胜。
《Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世
纪的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的
祖先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《
Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑
。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是
非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默: 的描绘。
ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick
marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her
Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the
writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and
Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down.
还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面:
reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say
hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce
Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to
fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after
Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in
the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regenerat: ...................
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson和《Reamde》 : 我看Neal Stephenson的书有些年头了。最早知道这么个作家,是在读Slashdot网站的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共和国,海外有人工大陆新亚特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋… : 后来,1999年,Neal出版了巨著《Cryptonomicon》,探索科技,货币,黑客,二战等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Alan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人入胜。 : 几年以后,2003和2004年间,他出版了三部曲《Baroque Cycle》,三本千页小说:《Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世纪的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的祖先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默的描绘。 : 书中用的十七世纪的文风也特别搞笑,这是他自己的书前自述: : Neal Stephenson issueth from a Clan of yeomen, itinerant Parsons, ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down. : 他和著名科幻作家William Gibson以及Bruce Sterling都是好友,原来在Slashdot上还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面: : The first time was a year or two after SNOW CRASH came out. I was doing a reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regeneration process, telescoping Carbonite stilettos had been incorporated into Gibson's arms. Remembering this in the nick of time, I grabbed the signing table and flipped it up between us. Of course the Carbonite stilettos pierced it as if it were cork board, but this spoiled his aim long enough for me to whip my wakizashi out from between my shoulder blades and swing at his head. He deflected the blow with a force blast that sprained my wrist. The falling table knocked over a space heater and set fire to the store. Everyone else fled. Gibson and I dueled among blazing stacks of books for a while. Slowly I gained the upper hand, for, on defense, his Praying Mantis style was no match for my Flying Cloud technique. But I lost him behind a cloud of smoke. Then I had to get out of the place. The streets were crowded with his black-suited minions and I had to turn into a swarm of locusts and fly back to Seattle. : http://bit.ly/o4aMTr : 后来,2008年,他出版了一千页的《Anathem》。一个遥远的星球上面的离奇事件。这个星球类似地球,但是有自己的语言和文化(Neal甚至自己创造了这个星球上的语言,秉承J.R.R Tolkien的传统)。这个星球上面的读书人和Geek都要单独生活在一个自己的社区,类似于中世纪的修道院,但是他们被规定不许生育。然后生活在修道院外面的“正常人”可以生育,但是如果发现了有Geek倾向的就给送到修道院里去培养。这样不会造成一个特殊的知识阶层,因为知识分子都不能生育,但是可以结婚,所有他们所从事的科研就不会为自己谋私,而且他们也不能有计算机,完全手算,因为历史上的计算机和武器技术曾经使他们遭遇灭种之灾。一艘外星飞船的到来彻底改变了这个星球上的修道院里面的一群年轻人的平静生活…
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j******n 发帖数: 21641 | 56 应该比三体写得好吧
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你是不是以前推荐过他其他的书?好像有印象 : 听你描述的很吸引人,他的书非geek看会不会很累? : : 的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早 : 期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可 : 以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google : Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对 : 于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节 : 发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚 : 特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
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w**m 发帖数: 4061 | 57 哈哈 太好了 Bos你多发点书评吧 我个人给你双黄包答谢 |
j******n 发帖数: 21641 | 58
版六人选
【在 w**m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哈哈 太好了 Bos你多发点书评吧 我个人给你双黄包答谢
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 59 嘿嘿,那是考你的,就兴你考我坦坦啊?
Seriously,多谢指正。已经改过来了。
杂志热捧过的某人的另外一篇发在Prospect的文章的,卫报对此人有过报道)
【在 j******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : page tuner是故意拼错么 : 还有alan turing : hehe : 找你bug好难 : 不过我在文海推荐了一篇关于neuromania的文章(批判经济学人的intelligent life杂志热捧过的某人的另外一篇发在Prospect的文章的,卫报对此人有过报道) : http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/aug/07/aping-mankind-raymo : : 的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早 : 期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可 : 以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 60 多谢!当早餐吃了。
【在 w**m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哈哈 太好了 Bos你多发点书评吧 我个人给你双黄包答谢
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 61 Neal Stephenson不但小说写得好,而且non-fiction也很优秀。他以前在《Wired》上
的一篇长文,《Mother Earth Mother Board》就很有水准。
http://bit.ly/1lR4
他的另外一部non-fiction,《In the Beginning... Was the Command Line》,写得
也很好。
http://bit.ly/bzYhzG
但是后来他决定放弃non-fiction和杂志写作,说这些东西比fiction难写,而且相对报
酬太低,Research和fact checking都很花功夫,财力人力都吃不消。 |
p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 62 你以前提过一次,听上去很不错啊。
的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早
期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可
以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google
Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对
于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节
发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚
特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。
这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给
出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Alan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人
入胜。
《Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世
纪的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的
祖先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《
Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑
。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是
非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默: 的描绘。
ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick
marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her
Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the
writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and
Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down.
还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面:
reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say
hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce
Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to
fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after
Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in
the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regenerat: ...................
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson不但小说写得好,而且non-fiction也很优秀。他以前在《Wired》上 : 的一篇长文,《Mother Earth Mother Board》就很有水准。 : http://bit.ly/1lR4 : 他的另外一部non-fiction,《In the Beginning... Was the Command Line》,写得 : 也很好。 : http://bit.ly/bzYhzG : 但是后来他决定放弃non-fiction和杂志写作,说这些东西比fiction难写,而且相对报 : 酬太低,Research和fact checking都很花功夫,财力人力都吃不消。
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 63 发散一下
三体1我觉得很不错啊
2比1更好些
另外,支持大刘,也是支持中国科幻
中国科幻迷那么多,几十年了也才出来一个大刘
【在 j******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 应该比三体写得好吧
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 64 都不错,没有必要分个高下。好书越多越好,只要读者愿意读,就是好书。
题外话,科幻迷跟科幻质量没有必然联系。参见中国球迷,例如,足球的例子。
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 发散一下 : 三体1我觉得很不错啊 : 2比1更好些 : 另外,支持大刘,也是支持中国科幻 : 中国科幻迷那么多,几十年了也才出来一个大刘
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 65 没看三?
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 发散一下 : 三体1我觉得很不错啊 : 2比1更好些 : 另外,支持大刘,也是支持中国科幻 : 中国科幻迷那么多,几十年了也才出来一个大刘
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wh 发帖数: 141625 | 66 赞的。我不行哎,一眼看过去都是科技词看不懂。手稿好,我写文章也是先手写再打字
。不过我用铅笔,哈哈,更土。
的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早
期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可
以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google
Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对
于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节
发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚
特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。
这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给
出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Alan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人
入胜。
《Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世
纪的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的
祖先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《
Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑
。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是
非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默: 的描绘。
ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick
marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her
Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the
writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and
Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down.
还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面:
reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say
hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce
Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to
fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after
Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in
the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regenerat: ...................
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson不但小说写得好,而且non-fiction也很优秀。他以前在《Wired》上 : 的一篇长文,《Mother Earth Mother Board》就很有水准。 : http://bit.ly/1lR4 : 他的另外一部non-fiction,《In the Beginning... Was the Command Line》,写得 : 也很好。 : http://bit.ly/bzYhzG : 但是后来他决定放弃non-fiction和杂志写作,说这些东西比fiction难写,而且相对报 : 酬太低,Research和fact checking都很花功夫,财力人力都吃不消。
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wh 发帖数: 141625 | 67 哎呀你发给我一个双黄呀,是不是发错了?
【在 w**m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哈哈 太好了 Bos你多发点书评吧 我个人给你双黄包答谢
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wh 发帖数: 141625 | 68 他说要写kindle被抢时提过这些小说情节。被抢后来写了没有?
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你以前提过一次,听上去很不错啊。 : : 的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早 : 期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可 : 以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google : Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对 : 于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节 : 发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚 : 特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋… : 等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 69 应该是写了...没写完...这个...
【在 wh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 他说要写kindle被抢时提过这些小说情节。被抢后来写了没有?
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wh 发帖数: 141625 | 70 我看过前两帖,很技术。没看到怎么被抢……
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 应该是写了...没写完...这个...
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 71 我好像是写到了四,太久了,记不太请了,无奈我老迈年糕...
【在 wh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我看过前两帖,很技术。没看到怎么被抢……
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w**m 发帖数: 4061 | 72 你牛,我很羡慕还有手写的
这和那谁说的,若干年后,还看纸制书,用小本本记笔记的,都是老板的有闲阶级
【在 wh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 赞的。我不行哎,一眼看过去都是科技词看不懂。手稿好,我写文章也是先手写再打字 : 。不过我用铅笔,哈哈,更土。 : : 的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早 : 期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可 : 以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google : Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对 : 于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节 : 发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚 : 特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 73 3太扯了
虽然我看得很欢乐,但是很扯。
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 没看三?
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 74 当年适应敲键盘写文章适应得挺辛苦
现在特怀念那种三百字一页的绿格稿纸,字大行疏
可惜家里没有了
【在 wh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 赞的。我不行哎,一眼看过去都是科技词看不懂。手稿好,我写文章也是先手写再打字 : 。不过我用铅笔,哈哈,更土。 : : 的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早 : 期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可 : 以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google : Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对 : 于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节 : 发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚 : 特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 75 我也觉得2最好。不过3是没耐心仔细写。按说写成5本差不多。3的100页之后
基本就是提纲。
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 3太扯了 : 虽然我看得很欢乐,但是很扯。
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 76 我觉得到3他已经不知道自己在说什么了
他说的那些已经超越了他自己的想象力
但是前面手笔已经这么大,3怎么也超越不了,只好挑战想象力极限
所以聪明的作者不会把科幻写太长
去年看了不少星云奖作品
很多写的很好的故事也只有一层,揭开了故事就结束了
层层推进其实很难,而他试图在每一本上都推进一层
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也觉得2最好。不过3是没耐心仔细写。按说写成5本差不多。3的100页之后 : 基本就是提纲。
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 77 我倒是觉得天渊比深渊上的火写的好。不过很多人不那么觉得。
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我觉得到3他已经不知道自己在说什么了 : 他说的那些已经超越了他自己的想象力 : 但是前面手笔已经这么大,3怎么也超越不了,只好挑战想象力极限 : 所以聪明的作者不会把科幻写太长 : 去年看了不少星云奖作品 : 很多写的很好的故事也只有一层,揭开了故事就结束了 : 层层推进其实很难,而他试图在每一本上都推进一层
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j******n 发帖数: 21641 | 78 现在要容易得多
记得以前查个资料在图书馆的臭书架里要泡好久
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson不但小说写得好,而且non-fiction也很优秀。他以前在《Wired》上 : 的一篇长文,《Mother Earth Mother Board》就很有水准。 : http://bit.ly/1lR4 : 他的另外一部non-fiction,《In the Beginning... Was the Command Line》,写得 : 也很好。 : http://bit.ly/bzYhzG : 但是后来他决定放弃non-fiction和杂志写作,说这些东西比fiction难写,而且相对报 : 酬太低,Research和fact checking都很花功夫,财力人力都吃不消。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 79 他写non-fiction大约是十年前吧,不过,核实数据,很多时候不是一Google就能行的
。例如,他要调查某著名建筑的电话和通信线路的布线,和布线的历史,要到市政厅的
有关建筑部门去核实,看图纸,等等,这些东西都不在网上,要跟市政厅预约,等等,
写小说,相对而言做的Research不需要那么严格。大致齐就行了。
【在 j******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 现在要容易得多 : 记得以前查个资料在图书馆的臭书架里要泡好久
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 80 有什么需要适应的呢?难道不是打开Word就开始敲字?绿格稿纸爬起来太慢,我刚来美
国的时候还带来了一些,现在如果还在的话就是文物了。
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 当年适应敲键盘写文章适应得挺辛苦 : 现在特怀念那种三百字一页的绿格稿纸,字大行疏 : 可惜家里没有了
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 81 我不是的
刚开始用term的时候,看见别人发文章,也想写
对着蓝屏幕写不出来
敲字和思考相互冲突
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 82 原来如此。记得原来看Neal的采访时说,用笔写字因为比较慢,言词下笔的时候都在大
脑里面的缓冲区内多留存了一下子,在脑子里多晃了一阵子,写出来的时候就更加有章
法,更有力度。这样比先写出一大堆,然后再修改要强很多。好文都是写出来的,而不
是改出来的,正如好程序不是靠多次debug出来的,好作家和好程序员有类似之处。
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我不是的 : 刚开始用term的时候,看见别人发文章,也想写 : 对着蓝屏幕写不出来 : 敲字和思考相互冲突 : 现在适应了反而回不
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h******e 发帖数: 121 | 83 对的,俺家那个Nerd就特别喜欢这个作家。
家里一排砖头厚的小说…… |
wh 发帖数: 141625 | 84 yeah. 上次看到余秋雨说他的新书《我等不到了》是呕心沥血一字一句写出来的,珍惜
地称为“纯手工写作”。唉他真是坚持不懈地做作啊。不过他的早期文章对我还是很有
启迪的,文采也是有的。就是为人欠缺了点。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 原来如此。记得原来看Neal的采访时说,用笔写字因为比较慢,言词下笔的时候都在大 : 脑里面的缓冲区内多留存了一下子,在脑子里多晃了一阵子,写出来的时候就更加有章 : 法,更有力度。这样比先写出一大堆,然后再修改要强很多。好文都是写出来的,而不 : 是改出来的,正如好程序不是靠多次debug出来的,好作家和好程序员有类似之处。
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g*****y 发帖数: 1488 | 85 Neal Stephenson 的Cryptonomicon 是我看的第一本他的书,只觉得大部头的书从来没
看得这么爽过。里面的段落,比如形容Captain Crunch麦片怎么好吃,又说Waterhouse
家分财产时如何按大家愿意抱着那些东西跑多远决定等等,到现在想起来都记忆鲜明。
Snow Crash 和Diamond Age也都不错。(但大家公认他书的问题 --场子摊太大,结尾
往往不了了之或一盘散沙 -- 这两部都有。) 后来出Baroque Cycle,第一部我兴奋地
看到一半,从Jack因为梅毒神经错乱开始突然lost the plot,就再也没拾起来过。他
的书太重,也是没再拾起来的部分原因。所以看到LZ提醒说可以Kindle上看他新书,非
常高兴,好象刚刚听说久在外地的朋友马上要搬到同一个城里了。 |
b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 86 //hand
Waterhouse
。
我印象很深的是一段描述为什么大家看见穿黑丝袜的觉得很性感的议论,觉得特别有意
思。
大家不是说他不会收尾吗?所以这次Reamde收尾就收得特别干净,然后又有人抱怨为什
么收尾那么干净利落,没有了遐想空间,呵呵。真难伺候!
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson 的Cryptonomicon 是我看的第一本他的书,只觉得大部头的书从来没 : 看得这么爽过。里面的段落,比如形容Captain Crunch麦片怎么好吃,又说Waterhouse : 家分财产时如何按大家愿意抱着那些东西跑多远决定等等,到现在想起来都记忆鲜明。 : Snow Crash 和Diamond Age也都不错。(但大家公认他书的问题 --场子摊太大,结尾 : 往往不了了之或一盘散沙 -- 这两部都有。) 后来出Baroque Cycle,第一部我兴奋地 : 看到一半,从Jack因为梅毒神经错乱开始突然lost the plot,就再也没拾起来过。他 : 的书太重,也是没再拾起来的部分原因。所以看到LZ提醒说可以Kindle上看他新书,非 : 常高兴,好象刚刚听说久在外地的朋友马上要搬到同一个城里了。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 87
我在Confusion和The System of the World之间也间隔了几个月,就把前面的一些情节
给忘了。后来又读了一遍。虽然知道了结局,读起来还是饶有趣味,记得有一段在荷兰
海岸和龙骑兵追帆车的情形,记忆犹新。
他的书,拿起来就放不下,看完了千页以后还想接着来,呵呵。
他的书很早就有电子版了,原来纽约公共图书馆的电子书借阅部就有,是mobi pocket
格式的,但是由于加密,不能用于Kindle,我实在Palm PDA上看过的,那个Anathem也
是。
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson 的Cryptonomicon 是我看的第一本他的书,只觉得大部头的书从来没 : 看得这么爽过。里面的段落,比如形容Captain Crunch麦片怎么好吃,又说Waterhouse : 家分财产时如何按大家愿意抱着那些东西跑多远决定等等,到现在想起来都记忆鲜明。 : Snow Crash 和Diamond Age也都不错。(但大家公认他书的问题 --场子摊太大,结尾 : 往往不了了之或一盘散沙 -- 这两部都有。) 后来出Baroque Cycle,第一部我兴奋地 : 看到一半,从Jack因为梅毒神经错乱开始突然lost the plot,就再也没拾起来过。他 : 的书太重,也是没再拾起来的部分原因。所以看到LZ提醒说可以Kindle上看他新书,非 : 常高兴,好象刚刚听说久在外地的朋友马上要搬到同一个城里了。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 88 wh现在就是“老板的有闲阶级”,呵呵。
【在 w**m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你牛,我很羡慕还有手写的 : 这和那谁说的,若干年后,还看纸制书,用小本本记笔记的,都是老板的有闲阶级
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 89 那些星云作品?很多有趣的吗?
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我不是的 : 刚开始用term的时候,看见别人发文章,也想写 : 对着蓝屏幕写不出来 : 敲字和思考相互冲突 : 现在适应了反而回不
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 90 天渊是A deepness in the sky的中文译名吗?
深渊上的火应该就是A fire upon the deep了?我都不知道有中译本出来了。什么时候
中文书要是有一个数据库就好了,什么书是否有中译本可以查一下。
现在亚马逊应该是一个事实上的英文书数据库了吧。
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我倒是觉得天渊比深渊上的火写的好。不过很多人不那么觉得。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 91 你的文章都是用Term敲出来的?那机器一挂你就惨了。没有用Word再粘贴吗?
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我不是的 : 刚开始用term的时候,看见别人发文章,也想写 : 对着蓝屏幕写不出来 : 敲字和思考相互冲突 : 现在适应了反而回不
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 92 那这个Nerd应该跟你们家的那个Nerd好好握握手,呵呵。
【在 h******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 对的,俺家那个Nerd就特别喜欢这个作家。 : 家里一排砖头厚的小说……
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 93 文章当然都是“纯手工写作”。机器写的基本上是惨不忍睹。
为人欠缺不要紧,只要文章不欠缺。
那个谁不是说,“I am vulgar, but my music is not vulgar”吗?
【在 wh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : yeah. 上次看到余秋雨说他的新书《我等不到了》是呕心沥血一字一句写出来的,珍惜 : 地称为“纯手工写作”。唉他真是坚持不懈地做作啊。不过他的早期文章对我还是很有 : 启迪的,文采也是有的。就是为人欠缺了点。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 94 摘抄一段那段黑丝袜和sex的议论,很长,微色,慎入:
Note to myself: let’s see "Letters to Penthouse" print this!
I don’t suppose that graduate students of either gender are exactly sought
out by sexual connoisseurs for their great fucking skills. We think about it
too much. Everything has to be verbalized. A person who believes that
fucking is a sexual discourse is simply never going to be any good in the
sack.
I have a thing about stockings. They have to be sheer black stockings,
preferably with seams up the back. When I was thirteen years old I actually
shoplifted some black pantyhose from a grocery store just so that I could
play with them. Walking out of that store with those L’eggs in my backpack,
my heart was pounding, but the excitement of the crime was nothing compared
to opening up the package and pulling them out, rubbing them against my
fuzzy, adolescent cheeks. I even tried pulling them on, but this just looked
grotesque—what with my hairy legs—and did absolutely nothing for me. I
didn’t want to wear them. I wanted someone else to. I masturbated four
times that day.
It disturbed the shit out of me when I thought about it. I was a smart boy.
Smart boys are supposed to be rational. So, when I was in college I figured
out a rationalization for this. There wasn’t that many women who wore sheer
black stockings in college, but sometimes I would go into the city and see
the well-dressed office workers walking down the street on their lunch
breaks and make scientific observations of their legs. I noticed that where
the stocking stretched itself thin to go over a wide part of the leg, such
as the muscle of the calf, it became paler. just as a colored balloon
becomes paler when it is inflated. Conversely, it was darker in narrow
regions such as the ankle. This made the calf look more shapely and the
ankle look more slender. The legs, as a whole, looked healthier, implying
that just above the place where they joined together, a higher class of DNA
was to be found.
Q.E.D. My thing about black stockings was a highly rational adaptation. It
merely proved how smart I was, how rational even the most irrational parts
of my brain were. Sex held no power over me. It was nothing to fear.
This was quintessentially sophomoric thinking, but nowadays most educated
people hold quintessentially sophomoric opinions well into their thirties
and so this stuck with me for a long time. My wife Virginia probably had
some equally self-serving rationalization for her own sexual needs—of which
I was not to become aware for many years. So it’s no surprise that our
premarital sex life was mediocre. Neither one of us admitted it was mediocre
, of course. If I had admitted it, I would have had to admit that it was
mediocre because Virginia didn’t like to wear stockings, and at the time I
was too concerned with being a Sensitive New Age Guy to admit such heresy, I
loved Virginia for her mind. How could I be so shallow, so insensitive, so
perverse as to spurn her because she didn’t like to pull filmy tubes of
nylon over her legs? As a pudgy nerd, I was lucky to have her.
Five years into our marriage, I attended the Comdex convention as president
of a small new high-tech company. I was a little less pudgy and a little
less nerdy. I met a marketing girl for a big software distribution chain.
She was wearing sheer black stockings. We ended up fucking in my hotel room.
It was the best sex I’d ever had. I went home baffled and ashamed. After
that, my sex life with Virginia was pretty miserable. We had sex maybe a
dozen times over the next couple of years.
Virginia’s grandmother died and we went back to upstate New York for the
funeral. Virginia had to wear a dress, which meant she had to shave her legs
and wear stockings—something she’d done on only a handful of occasions
since our marriage. I practically fell over when I saw her, and suffered
through the funeral with a big, scratchy erection, trying to figure out how
I could get her alone.
Now, Granny had lived by herself in a big old house on a hill until a couple
of months earlier when she had fallen down and broken her hip, and been
moved into a nursing home. All of her children, grandchildren, and great-
grandchildren came together for the funeral, and that house became the
central gathering-place. It was a nice place full of good old furniture, but
in her declining years Granny had become something of a compulsive pack rat
and so there were heaps of newspapers and accumulated mail squirreled away
everywhere. In the end we had to haul away several truckloads of junk.
In some other ways, Granny had been pretty well-organized and had left
behind a very specific last will and testament. Each one of her descendants
knew exactly which pieces of furniture, dishes, rugs, and curios they were
going to take home. She had a lot of possessions, but she also had a lot of
descendants, and so the loot had to be sliced pretty thin. Virginia ended up
with a black walnut dresser which was stored in an unused bedroom. We went
up there to have a look at it, and I ended up fucking her there. I stood up
with the flimsy trousers of my dark suit collapsed around my ankles while
she sat on top of that dresser with her legs wrapped around me and her
stocking-clad heels digging into my butt-cheeks. It was the best fuck we’d
ever had, bar none. Fortunately there were a lot of people eating, drinking,
and talking downstairs or they would have heard her moaning and hollering.
I finally came clean to her about the stockings. It felt good. I’d been
reading a lot about how the brain develops and had finally come to accept my
stocking kink. It seems that when you are a certain age, somewhere between
about two and five years, your mind just gels. The part of it that’s
responsible for sex becomes set into a pattern that you’ll carry with you
for the rest of your life. All of the gay people I’ve ever discussed it
with have told me that they knew they were gay, or at least different, years
before they even began thinking about sex, and all of them agree that
gayness cannot be converted into straightness, or vice versa, no matter how
hard you might try.
The part of your brain that handles sex frequently gets cross-wired into
other, seemingly irrelevant areas at this age. This is when people pick up
an orientation towards sexual dominance or submission, or when a lot of guys
pick up highly specific kinks—say, rubber, feathers, or shoes. Some of
them are unfortunate enough to get turned on by little kids, and those guys
are essentially doomed from that point onwards—there is nothing to do
except castrate them or lock them up. No therapy will unkink the brain once
it has kinked.
So, all things considered, being turned on by black stockings wasn’t such a
bad sexual card to have been dealt. I laid this all out to Virginia during
the trip home. I was surprised by how calmly she accepted it. I was too big
of a jerk to realize that she was thinking about how it all applied to her.
After we got back home, she gamely went out and bought some stockings and
tried to wear them on occasion. This was not easy. Stockings imply a whole
lifestyle. They look stupid with jeans and sneakers. A woman in stockings
has to wear a dress or a skirt, and not just a blue denim skirt but
something nicer, more formal. She also has to wear the type of shoes that
Virginia didn’t own and didn’t like to wear. Stockings are not really
compatible with riding a bicycle to work. They were not even really
compatible with our house. During our frugal grad-student days we had
accumulated a lot of furniture from Goodwill, or I had hammered it together
myself out of two-by-fours. This furniture turned out to be riddled with
hidden snags that a person in blue jeans would never notice but that would
destroy a pair of stockings in a moment. Likewise, our half-finished house
and our old junker cars had many small sharp edges that were death to
stockings. On the other hand, when we went away for an anniversary trip to
London, getting around in black taxis, staying in a nice hotel, and eating
in good restaurants, we spent a whole week moving in a world that was
perfectly adapted to stockings. It just went to show us how radically we
would have to change our circumstances in order for her to dress that way
routinely.
So, much money was spent on stockings in a fit of good intentions. Some good
sex was had, though I seemed to enjoy it much more than Virginia did. She
never achieved the shocking, animal intensity she had shown at Granny’s
house after the funeral. Attrition reduced her supply of stockings very
quickly, sheer inconvenience prevented her from renewing it, and within a
year after the funeral we were back to square one.
Other things were changing, though. I made a lot of money by cashing in some
stock options, and we bought a new house up in the hills. We hired some
movers to come pick up all of our junky furniture and move it into that
house, where it looked much shabbier. Virginia’s new job forced her to
commute in a car. I didn’t think our old junker was safe, and so I bought
her a nice little Lexus with leather seats and wool carpet, all of it nicely
snag-free. Soon, kids came along and I traded in my old beater pickup truck
for a minivan.
Still, I couldn’t bring myself to begin spending money on furniture until
my back started going bad on me, and I realized it was because of the slack,
twenty-year-old Goodwill mattress that Virginia and I were sleeping on. We
had to buy a new bed. Since it was my back at stake, I went out and did the
shopping.
I ’d rather stub out cigarettes on my tongue than go shopping. The idea of
hitting every big furniture store in the area, comparing beds, made me want
to die. All I wanted was to go to one place and buy a bed and have done with
it. But I didn’t want a shitty bed that I’d be sick of in a year, or a
cheap mattress that would mess up my back again in five years.
So I went straight down to my local Gomer Bolstrood Home Gallery. I had
heard people talk about Gomer Bolstrood furniture. Women, in particular,
seemed to speak of it in hushed, religious tones. Their factory was said to
be up in some New England town where they had been based for the last three
hundred years. It was said that loose curls of walnut and oak from Gomer
Bolstroods block plane had been used as tinder beneath the pyres of
convicted witches. Gomer Bolstrood was the answer to a question I’d been
ruminating over ever since Granny’s funeral, namely: where does all of this
high-quality grandma furniture come from? In every family, young people go
to grandma’s house for Thanksgiving, or other obligatory visits, and lust
over the nice antique furniture, wondering which pieces they will take home
when the old lady kicks the bucket. Some people lose patience and go to
estate sales or antique stores and buy the stuff.
But if the supply of old, high-grade, heirloom-quality furniture is fixed,
then where will the grannys of the future come from? I could see a situation
, half a century in the future, when Virginia’s and my descendants would
all be squabbling over that one black walnut dresser, while bringing in
Ryder trucks to haul the rest of our stuff straight to the dump. As the
population grows, and the supply of old furniture remains constant, this
kind of thing is inevitable. There must be a source for new granny-grade
furniture, or else the Americans of tomorrow will all end up sitting in
vinyl beanbag chairs, leaking little foam beads all over the floor.
The answer is Gomer Bolstrood, and the price is high. Each Gomer Bolstrood
chair and table really ought to come in a little felt-lined box, like a
piece of jewelry. But at the time, I was rich and impatient. So I drove to
Gomer Bolstrood and stormed through the door, only to be brought up short by
a receptionist. I felt tacky in my white tennis shoes and jeans. She had
probably seen a lot of high-tech millionaires come through those doors, and
took it pretty calmly. Before I knew it a middle-aged woman had emerged from
the back of the store and appointed herself my personal design consultant.
Her name was Margaret. "Where are the beds?" I asked. She stiffened and
informed me that this not the kind of place where you could walk into a Bed
Room and see a row of beds lined up like pig’s feet at a butcher shop. A
Gomer Bolstrood Home Design Gallery consists of a series of exquisitely
decorated rooms, some of which happen to be bedrooms and to contain beds.
Once we had that all straightened out. Margaret showed me the bedrooms. As
she led me from one room to the next. I couldn’t help noticing that she was
wearing black stockings with seams up the back—perfectly straight seams.
My erotic feelings for Margaret made me uncomfortable. For a while, I had to
restrain the impulse to say "just sell me the biggest, most expensive bed
you have." Margaret showed me beds in different styles. The names of the
styles meant nothing to me. Some looked modern and some looked old-fashioned
. I pointed to a very large, high four-poster that looked like granny
furniture and said. "I’ll take one of those."
There was a three-month delay while the bed was hand-carved by New England
craftsmen working at the same wage as plumbers or psychotherapists. Then it
showed up at our house and was assembled by technicians in white coveralls,
like the guys who work in semiconductor chip fabrication plants. Virginia
came home from work. She was wearing a denim skirt, heavy wool socks, and
Birkenstocks. The kids were still at school. We had sex on the bed. I
performed dutifully enough, I suppose. I could not really sustain an
erection and ended up with my head stuck between her bristly thighs. Even
with my ears blocked by her quadriceps. I could hear her moaning and
screaming. She went into erotic convulsions near the end, and almost snapped
my neck. Her climax must have lasted for two or three full minutes. This
was the moment when I first came to terms with the fact that Virginia could
not achieve orgasm unless she was in close proximity to—preferably on top
of—a piece of heirloom-grade furniture that she owned.
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : //hand : : Waterhouse : 。 : 我印象很深的是一段描述为什么大家看见穿黑丝袜的觉得很性感的议论,觉得特别有意 : 思。 : 大家不是说他不会收尾吗?所以这次Reamde收尾就收得特别干净,然后又有人抱怨为什 : 么收尾那么干净利落,没有了遐想空间,呵呵。真难伺候!
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g*****y 发帖数: 1488 | 95 更加期待了!
嗯,他的书每一本都是很宏大的世界,所以可以让人plunge下去不想上岸。我好象对这
类书的需要是周期性的。
哦,上次想起来拿Kindle 看David G. McCullough的书也应该很好。强荐 The Path
Between the Seas,说造巴拿马运河的,也是大部头中的page turner。
pocket
太晚了,明天读你贴的黑丝袜吧。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 摘抄一段那段黑丝袜和sex的议论,很长,微色,慎入: : Note to myself: let’s see "Letters to Penthouse" print this! : I don’t suppose that graduate students of either gender are exactly sought : out by sexual connoisseurs for their great fucking skills. We think about it : too much. Everything has to be verbalized. A person who believes that : fucking is a sexual discourse is simply never going to be any good in the : sack. : I have a thing about stockings. They have to be sheer black stockings, : preferably with seams up the back. When I was thirteen years old I actually : shoplifted some black pantyhose from a grocery store just so that I could
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 96 嗯,我也觉得天渊写得更好
同样是异型世界,他写人和蜘蛛人之间的关系让我觉得很有共鸣
在知道蜘蛛人的真相之后,那个世界仍然让我感受到共通的情感
相比之下,思想共同体这个概念对我可能太超越了,看着始终有隔膜
一般认为深渊上的火更好么?也许是因为那个体验更新奇?
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我倒是觉得天渊比深渊上的火写的好。不过很多人不那么觉得。
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 97 去年搜到的一个中译本集合,很多,两百多本,不全是星云作品。当时就想看科幻,主
要是补习一下基地系列,后来一口气看了几十本。看了之后发现套路就那么几个,真的
去构架一个全新世界的还是少数,大部分是提一个谜团,然后揭一个谜底,很多谜团设
置得很好,但是迷底揭开有好有坏,让人觉得不过瘾。全新构架的,有的太新了,有隔
膜;有的又过于贴近人类情感,少点创意。当然写得都不错,不然也不会得奖了。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那些星云作品?很多有趣的吗?
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 98 我现在很少用term了,——我用term灌水太快,太花时间。现在一般都用word写。
昨晚睡前读了这一段,很佩服,写得真好。期待读他的小说~
sought
it
actually
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 摘抄一段那段黑丝袜和sex的议论,很长,微色,慎入: : Note to myself: let’s see "Letters to Penthouse" print this! : I don’t suppose that graduate students of either gender are exactly sought : out by sexual connoisseurs for their great fucking skills. We think about it : too much. Everything has to be verbalized. A person who believes that : fucking is a sexual discourse is simply never going to be any good in the : sack. : I have a thing about stockings. They have to be sheer black stockings, : preferably with seams up the back. When I was thirteen years old I actually : shoplifted some black pantyhose from a grocery store just so that I could
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X***y 发帖数: 3947 | 99 听着很诱人,谢谢推荐!
的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早
期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可
以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google
Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对
于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节
发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚
特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。
这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给
出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Alan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人
入胜。
《Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世
纪的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的
祖先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《
Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑
。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是
非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默: 的描绘。
ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick
marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her
Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the
writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and
Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down.
还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面:
reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say
hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce
Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to
fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after
Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in
the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regenerat: ...................
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson不但小说写得好,而且non-fiction也很优秀。他以前在《Wired》上 : 的一篇长文,《Mother Earth Mother Board》就很有水准。 : http://bit.ly/1lR4 : 他的另外一部non-fiction,《In the Beginning... Was the Command Line》,写得 : 也很好。 : http://bit.ly/bzYhzG : 但是后来他决定放弃non-fiction和杂志写作,说这些东西比fiction难写,而且相对报 : 酬太低,Research和fact checking都很花功夫,财力人力都吃不消。
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g*****y 发帖数: 1488 | 100 最近在车里听Bill Bryson自己读的audiobook听多了,看这文时好象耳朵旁边还是Bill
Bryson的和气小老头的声音在读,有点串味的感觉,很逗。
sought
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 摘抄一段那段黑丝袜和sex的议论,很长,微色,慎入: : Note to myself: let’s see "Letters to Penthouse" print this! : I don’t suppose that graduate students of either gender are exactly sought : out by sexual connoisseurs for their great fucking skills. We think about it : too much. Everything has to be verbalized. A person who believes that : fucking is a sexual discourse is simply never going to be any good in the : sack. : I have a thing about stockings. They have to be sheer black stockings, : preferably with seams up the back. When I was thirteen years old I actually : shoplifted some black pantyhose from a grocery store just so that I could
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 101 bos你就是infodump的高手
的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早
期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可
以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google
Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对
于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节
发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚
特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。
这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给
出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Alan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人
入胜。
《Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世
纪的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的
祖先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《
Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑
。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是
非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默: 的描绘。
ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick
marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her
Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the
writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and
Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down.
还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面:
reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say
hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce
Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to
fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after
Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in
the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regenerat: ...................
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson不但小说写得好,而且non-fiction也很优秀。他以前在《Wired》上 : 的一篇长文,《Mother Earth Mother Board》就很有水准。 : http://bit.ly/1lR4 : 他的另外一部non-fiction,《In the Beginning... Was the Command Line》,写得 : 也很好。 : http://bit.ly/bzYhzG : 但是后来他决定放弃non-fiction和杂志写作,说这些东西比fiction难写,而且相对报 : 酬太低,Research和fact checking都很花功夫,财力人力都吃不消。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 102 站在巨人的肩膀上……
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : bos你就是infodump的高手 : : 的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早 : 期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可 : 以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google : Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对 : 于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节 : 发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚 : 特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋… : 等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 103 拉的shi都要多一点。。。hoho
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 站在巨人的肩膀上……
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g*****y 发帖数: 1488 | 104 剧透。。。。。。。。
早上刚把Reamde 看完,再把你这个帖子翻出来看,很有意思。唯一的小虫是恐怖分子
们是住在马龙他们楼上啊。另外剧情里不解之一是谁把Zula在厦门safe-house 里写在
paper towel上的tell-all 发给她叔叔的。
:基本上,Neal的写作风格可以描述成两点:infodump,以及电影里面的慢镜头一样的
生动的情节动作描写。
这本和他其他的书相比,infodump少很多,情节直到四,五路人马converge到
Prohibition Crick 都抓得我紧紧的,但final shootout 打也打不完,等RPG出来我都
已经没什么力气,只想坏人都死掉就好了 —— 所以结局还是没能满意我,想想
Stephenson如果知道有这样吹毛求疵的读者一定吐血。。。总的来说,非常fun的一个
ride,但看他的书的opportunity cost仍然是高,所以不能无保留推荐,又不知道能把
Anathem排期排到什么时候了。
这两个星期基本上Kindle就是用来看这部书了,正好看完电池也告急了,所以总算知道
了1000页是Kindle 电池的limit,哈。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 站在巨人的肩膀上……
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 105 那个发消息的就是一个好事者,good samaritan,多半是打扫safe house的……
这个就是动作戏,原来有人批评他的动作戏不强,所以他要整一下枪战和追车……
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 剧透。。。。。。。。 : 早上刚把Reamde 看完,再把你这个帖子翻出来看,很有意思。唯一的小虫是恐怖分子 : 们是住在马龙他们楼上啊。另外剧情里不解之一是谁把Zula在厦门safe-house 里写在 : paper towel上的tell-all 发给她叔叔的。 : : :基本上,Neal的写作风格可以描述成两点:infodump,以及电影里面的慢镜头一样的 : 生动的情节动作描写。 : 这本和他其他的书相比,infodump少很多,情节直到四,五路人马converge到 : Prohibition Crick 都抓得我紧紧的,但final shootout 打也打不完,等RPG出来我都 : 已经没什么力气,只想坏人都死掉就好了 —— 所以结局还是没能满意我,想想
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d**e 发帖数: 9591 | 106 ###此帖已应当事人要求删除###
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson不但小说写得好,而且non-fiction也很优秀。他以前在《Wired》上 : 的一篇长文,《Mother Earth Mother Board》就很有水准。 : http://bit.ly/1lR4 : 他的另外一部non-fiction,《In the Beginning... Was the Command Line》,写得 : 也很好。 : http://bit.ly/bzYhzG : 但是后来他决定放弃non-fiction和杂志写作,说这些东西比fiction难写,而且相对报 : 酬太低,Research和fact checking都很花功夫,财力人力都吃不消。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 107 这本书是对于他早期的Snow Crash的致敬,从游戏上来说
当然,枪战和gun battle就是他对gun geek的致敬了,哈哈
居然我是在看这本书的时候第一次研究厦门地图……
金门弹片菜刀的描写也很好玩……
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 剧透。。。。。。。。 : 早上刚把Reamde 看完,再把你这个帖子翻出来看,很有意思。唯一的小虫是恐怖分子 : 们是住在马龙他们楼上啊。另外剧情里不解之一是谁把Zula在厦门safe-house 里写在 : paper towel上的tell-all 发给她叔叔的。 : : :基本上,Neal的写作风格可以描述成两点:infodump,以及电影里面的慢镜头一样的 : 生动的情节动作描写。 : 这本和他其他的书相比,infodump少很多,情节直到四,五路人马converge到 : Prohibition Crick 都抓得我紧紧的,但final shootout 打也打不完,等RPG出来我都 : 已经没什么力气,只想坏人都死掉就好了 —— 所以结局还是没能满意我,想想
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 108 他提没提金门的坑道高粱?
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这本书是对于他早期的Snow Crash的致敬,从游戏上来说 : 当然,枪战和gun battle就是他对gun geek的致敬了,哈哈 : 居然我是在看这本书的时候第一次研究厦门地图…… : 金门弹片菜刀的描写也很好玩……
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 109 没有印象,金门菜刀倒是记得很清楚……
这本千页大书几天没有睡觉看的,呵呵,有些模糊……
他提没提金门的坑道高粱?
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 他提没提金门的坑道高粱?
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g*****y 发帖数: 1488 | 110 嗯,金门弹片菜刀是亮点之一。游戏可惜没写多点,Earthtone 和Brights 的冲突深入
一点。
枪战那些对我来说蛮浪费的。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这本书是对于他早期的Snow Crash的致敬,从游戏上来说 : 当然,枪战和gun battle就是他对gun geek的致敬了,哈哈 : 居然我是在看这本书的时候第一次研究厦门地图…… : 金门弹片菜刀的描写也很好玩……
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 111 我倒是对枪战打斗乐此不疲,我应该是他的主要读者群,呵呵……
华裔英国间谍也很有戏,呵呵……
嗯,金门弹片菜刀是亮点之一。游戏可惜没写多点,Earthtone 和Brights 的冲突深入
一点。
枪战那些对我来说蛮浪费的。
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嗯,金门弹片菜刀是亮点之一。游戏可惜没写多点,Earthtone 和Brights 的冲突深入 : 一点。 : 枪战那些对我来说蛮浪费的。
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l*r 发帖数: 79569 | 112 枪战很枯燥啊。。。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我倒是对枪战打斗乐此不疲,我应该是他的主要读者群,呵呵…… : 华裔英国间谍也很有戏,呵呵…… : : 嗯,金门弹片菜刀是亮点之一。游戏可惜没写多点,Earthtone 和Brights 的冲突深入 : 一点。 : 枪战那些对我来说蛮浪费的。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 113 肿么会?那么多动作片的枪战就说明了这个很有市场,特别是加上直升机和狙击手……
枪战很枯燥啊。。。
【在 l*r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 枪战很枯燥啊。。。
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g*****y 发帖数: 1488 | 114 我大概最饭Sokolov,配华裔英国间谍还不错。Stephenson凑出的3对中倒觉得Zula和
Csongor chemistry 最弱。。。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我倒是对枪战打斗乐此不疲,我应该是他的主要读者群,呵呵…… : 华裔英国间谍也很有戏,呵呵…… : : 嗯,金门弹片菜刀是亮点之一。游戏可惜没写多点,Earthtone 和Brights 的冲突深入 : 一点。 : 枪战那些对我来说蛮浪费的。
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T*******n 发帖数: 3229 | 115 原来你说的是这个, 很赞
的书评的时候。毫无疑问,Neal Stephenson是Geek和Nerd的所喜闻乐见的小说家。早
期的《Snow Crash》,出版于1982年,就预见到了全球性的光缆交互式互联网游戏,可
以算是World of Warcraft的前身。而且,里面所描述的虚拟地球,明明就是Google
Earth嘛。后来,1995年出版的《Diamond Age》,则更精彩了,对于Nano科技,以及对
于Steampunk题材的探索,都是跨时代性质的。在《Diamond Age》里,一大部分的情节
发生在一个虚构的亚洲,中国分裂成沿岸共和国和内陆共: 和国,海外有人工大陆新亚
特兰蒂斯,一个小女孩卷入了上海和新亚特兰蒂斯之间的一个连环扣阴谋…
等主题,而且,也是错综复杂的情节,精辟的科技Infodump,这是他作品的一大特色。
这部小说可以说是一本巨著,有上千页。最后,关于网络加密算法的研究,还把算法给
出了Perl代码。书中居然出现了Alan Turing,故事从二战直到二十一世纪,非常引人
入胜。
《Quicksilver》,《The Confusion》和《The System of the World》,讲述十七世
纪的一个故事,牛顿,雷布尼茨,惠更斯,还有《Cryptonomicon》故事里面主人公的
祖先,The Waterhouses和The Shaftoes,还有一个神秘的immortal,后来也出现于《
Cryptonomicon》中,他的名字叫做root,这个可以说是跟Unix geek们的一个小玩笑
。在这部三部曲中,他探讨了现代资本主义,股市,现代科学和哲学的源起,可以说是
非常有深度。对于牛顿爵士和莱布尼茨,也有生动和幽默: 的描绘。
ingenieurs, and Natural Philosophers that hath long dwelt in bucolick
marches and rural Shires of his native Land, and trod the Corridors of her
Varsities. At a young age , finding himself in a pretty Humour for the
writing of Romances, and the discourse of Natural Philosophy and
Technologick Arts, he took up the Pen, and hath not since laid it down.
还有一篇他写的搞笑比武场面:
reading/signing at White Dwarf Books in Vancouver. Gibson stopped by to say
hello and extended his hand as if to shake. But I remembered something Bruce
Sterling had told me. For, at the time, Sterling and I had formed a pact to
fight Gibson. Gibson had been regrown in a vat from scraps of DNA after
Sterling had crashed an LNG tanker into Gibson's Stealth pleasure barge in
the Straits of Juan de Fuca. During the regenerat: ...................
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson不但小说写得好,而且non-fiction也很优秀。他以前在《Wired》上 : 的一篇长文,《Mother Earth Mother Board》就很有水准。 : http://bit.ly/1lR4 : 他的另外一部non-fiction,《In the Beginning... Was the Command Line》,写得 : 也很好。 : http://bit.ly/bzYhzG : 但是后来他决定放弃non-fiction和杂志写作,说这些东西比fiction难写,而且相对报 : 酬太低,Research和fact checking都很花功夫,财力人力都吃不消。
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T*******n 发帖数: 3229 | 116 大致看了一下,还好啦,他的书是不是也这个尺度?
好像这些人已经进入百无禁忌的状态,婚外的也毫不避讳,不过也许“我”不是我。
sought
it
actually
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 摘抄一段那段黑丝袜和sex的议论,很长,微色,慎入: : Note to myself: let’s see "Letters to Penthouse" print this! : I don’t suppose that graduate students of either gender are exactly sought : out by sexual connoisseurs for their great fucking skills. We think about it : too much. Everything has to be verbalized. A person who believes that : fucking is a sexual discourse is simply never going to be any good in the : sack. : I have a thing about stockings. They have to be sheer black stockings, : preferably with seams up the back. When I was thirteen years old I actually : shoplifted some black pantyhose from a grocery store just so that I could
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 117 都是小说人物
大致看了一下,还好啦,他的书是不是也这个尺度?
好像这些人已经进入百无禁忌的状态,婚外的也毫不避讳,不过也许“我”不是我。
sought
it
actually
【在 T*******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 大致看了一下,还好啦,他的书是不是也这个尺度? : 好像这些人已经进入百无禁忌的状态,婚外的也毫不避讳,不过也许“我”不是我。 : : sought : it : actually
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 118 中国村姑和黑客倒也般配
我大概最饭Sokolov,配华裔英国间谍还不错。Stephenson凑出的3对中倒觉得Zula和
Csongor chemistry 最弱。。。
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我大概最饭Sokolov,配华裔英国间谍还不错。Stephenson凑出的3对中倒觉得Zula和 : Csongor chemistry 最弱。。。
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c**c 发帖数: 2593 | 119 wk,都写到金门弹片菜刀了。。。看来我得找这书来看看。厦门那一带小贩小店叫卖金
门特产,弹片菜刀是其中一种,还有金门豆腐乳什么的,我一直很怀疑有多少是真的。
没想到还能写到Neal Stephenson的小说里去。
不过Neal Stephenson的书,讲到中国的infodump经常不大靠谱。我还记得在
Cryptonomicon里看到过的两个例子,一个是他以为长征在抗战之后,另一个是他以为
中国就两种主要方言,南方讲广东话,北方讲上海话。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这本书是对于他早期的Snow Crash的致敬,从游戏上来说 : 当然,枪战和gun battle就是他对gun geek的致敬了,哈哈 : 居然我是在看这本书的时候第一次研究厦门地图…… : 金门弹片菜刀的描写也很好玩……
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g*****y 发帖数: 1488 | 120 不记得Cryptonomicon里提到长征啊,在amzn ‘Search Inside the Book’一下,没找
到Long March。。。
Btw,上次你推荐的《三体》去找来看了,很精彩,谢谢!
【在 c**c 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : wk,都写到金门弹片菜刀了。。。看来我得找这书来看看。厦门那一带小贩小店叫卖金 : 门特产,弹片菜刀是其中一种,还有金门豆腐乳什么的,我一直很怀疑有多少是真的。 : 没想到还能写到Neal Stephenson的小说里去。 : 不过Neal Stephenson的书,讲到中国的infodump经常不大靠谱。我还记得在 : Cryptonomicon里看到过的两个例子,一个是他以为长征在抗战之后,另一个是他以为 : 中国就两种主要方言,南方讲广东话,北方讲上海话。
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z*i 发帖数: 58873 | 121 这事估计还得赖某些国人。。。他自己估计总结不出来。。。。
,另一个是他以为
【在 c**c 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : wk,都写到金门弹片菜刀了。。。看来我得找这书来看看。厦门那一带小贩小店叫卖金 : 门特产,弹片菜刀是其中一种,还有金门豆腐乳什么的,我一直很怀疑有多少是真的。 : 没想到还能写到Neal Stephenson的小说里去。 : 不过Neal Stephenson的书,讲到中国的infodump经常不大靠谱。我还记得在 : Cryptonomicon里看到过的两个例子,一个是他以为长征在抗战之后,另一个是他以为 : 中国就两种主要方言,南方讲广东话,北方讲上海话。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 122 我也不记得了,很早以前看过的,好像那个shaftoe是在1937年在上海当过marine的?
那个Goto的故事在太平洋岛上好像,真不记得长征了。
Reamde里面的中国描写好像没有什么大纰漏
Diamond Age里面干脆就分裂中国了,还在太平洋上起了一个新Atlantis……
不记得Cryptonomicon里提到长征啊,在amzn ‘Search Inside the Book’一下,没找
到Long March。。。
Btw,上次你推荐的《三体》去找来看了,很精彩,谢谢!
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不记得Cryptonomicon里提到长征啊,在amzn ‘Search Inside the Book’一下,没找 : 到Long March。。。 : Btw,上次你推荐的《三体》去找来看了,很精彩,谢谢!
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 123 diamond age有点看不下去。。。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也不记得了,很早以前看过的,好像那个shaftoe是在1937年在上海当过marine的? : 那个Goto的故事在太平洋岛上好像,真不记得长征了。 : Reamde里面的中国描写好像没有什么大纰漏 : Diamond Age里面干脆就分裂中国了,还在太平洋上起了一个新Atlantis…… : : 不记得Cryptonomicon里提到长征啊,在amzn ‘Search Inside the Book’一下,没找 : 到Long March。。。 : Btw,上次你推荐的《三体》去找来看了,很精彩,谢谢!
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 124 为什么?因为分裂祖国?
diamond age有点看不下去。。。
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : diamond age有点看不下去。。。
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 125 不是。。。太灰暗了
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 为什么?因为分裂祖国? : : diamond age有点看不下去。。。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 126 到后面就光明一些了……
不是。。。太灰暗了
【在 w***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不是。。。太灰暗了
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w***s 发帖数: 15642 | 127 那我哪天再捡起来看看
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 到后面就光明一些了…… : : 不是。。。太灰暗了
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c**c 发帖数: 2593 | 128 可能amazon的OCR做得也不是特别精确,很多东西搜不到。你如果搜Great Leap
Forward,就会看到那附近出现Long March。不过我现在也想不起来,当初是怎么总结
出来作者认为长征在抗日之后了。没时间把那些情节再详细过一遍。
关于中国的方言,我搜了一下Shanghai dialect,看到小说中人物认为,中国人说方言
,如果说的不是广东话或闽南话,而更接近上海话,那就是中国北方的人。
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不记得Cryptonomicon里提到长征啊,在amzn ‘Search Inside the Book’一下,没找 : 到Long March。。。 : Btw,上次你推荐的《三体》去找来看了,很精彩,谢谢!
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g*****y 发帖数: 1488 | 129 呵呵,看到了,居然说上海人喜欢吃辣的,长得壮!
【在 c**c 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 可能amazon的OCR做得也不是特别精确,很多东西搜不到。你如果搜Great Leap : Forward,就会看到那附近出现Long March。不过我现在也想不起来,当初是怎么总结 : 出来作者认为长征在抗日之后了。没时间把那些情节再详细过一遍。 : 关于中国的方言,我搜了一下Shanghai dialect,看到小说中人物认为,中国人说方言 : ,如果说的不是广东话或闽南话,而更接近上海话,那就是中国北方的人。
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l*y 发帖数: 21010 | 130 谢谢,收藏了,太有意思了
这篇简直就是为我而写的。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Neal Stephenson不但小说写得好,而且non-fiction也很优秀。他以前在《Wired》上 : 的一篇长文,《Mother Earth Mother Board》就很有水准。 : http://bit.ly/1lR4 : 他的另外一部non-fiction,《In the Beginning... Was the Command Line》,写得 : 也很好。 : http://bit.ly/bzYhzG : 但是后来他决定放弃non-fiction和杂志写作,说这些东西比fiction难写,而且相对报 : 酬太低,Research和fact checking都很花功夫,财力人力都吃不消。
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