M*****g 发帖数: 1054 | 1 J.M. Coetzee - "Summertime"
And then there is the matter of his father’s music. After Mussolini
capitulated in 1944 and the Germans were driven north, the Allied troops
occupying Italy, including the South Africans, were allowed to relax briefly
and enjoy themselves. Among the recreations mounted for them were free
performances in the big opera houses. Young men from America, Britain, and
the farflung British dominions across the seas, wholly innocent of Italian
opera, were plunged into the drama of Tosca or The Barber of Seville or
Lucia di Lammermoor. Only a handful took to it, but his father was among
that handful. Brought up on sentimental Irish and English ballads, he was
entranced by the lush new music and overwhelmed by the spectacle. Day after
day he went back for more.
So when Corporal Coetzee returned to South Africa at the end of hostilities,
it was with a newfound passion for opera. “La donna è mobile,” he would
sing in the bath. “Figaro here, Figaro there,” he would sing, “Figaro,
Figaro, Feeegaro! ” He went out and bought a gramophone, their family’s
first; over and over again he would play a 78 rpm recording of Caruso
singing “Your tiny hand is frozen.” When long-playing records were
invented he acquired a new and better gramophone, together with an album of
Renata Tebaldi singing well-loved arias.
Thus in his adolescent years there were two schools of vocal music at war
with each other in the house: an Italian school, his father’s, manifested
by Tebaldi and Tito Gobbi in full cry; and a German school, his own, founded
on Bach. All of Sunday afternoon the household would drown in choruses from
the B-Minor Mass; then in the evenings, with Bach at last silenced, his
father would pour himself a glass of brandy, put on Renata Tebaldi, and sit
down to listen to real melodies, real singing.
For its sensuality and decadence—that was how, at the age of sixteen, he
saw it—he resolved he would forever hate and despise Italian opera. That he
might despise it simply because his father loved it, that he would have
resolved to hate and despise anything in the world that his father loved,
was a possibility he would not admit.
One day, while no one was around, he took the Tebaldi record out of its
sleeve and with a razor blade drew a deep score across its surface.
On Sunday evening his father put on the record. With each revolution the
needle jumped. “Who has done this?” he demanded. But no one, it seemed,
had done it. It had just happened.
Thus ended Tebaldi; now Bach could reign unchallenged.
For that mean and petty deed of his he has for the past twenty years felt
the bitterest remorse, remorse that has not receded with the passage of time
but on the contrary grown keener. One of his first actions when he returned
to the country was to scour the music shops for the Tebaldi record. Though
he failed to find it, he did come upon a compilation in which she sang some
of the same arias. He brought it home and played it through from beginning
to end, hoping to lure his father out of his room as a hunter might lure a
bird with his pipes. But his father showed no interest.
“Don’t you recognize the voice?” he asked.
His father shook his head.
“It’s Renata Tebaldi. Don’t you remember how you used to love Tebaldi in
the old days?”
He refused to accept defeat. He continued to hope that one day, when he was
out of the house, his father would put the new, unblemished record on the
player, pour himself a glass of brandy, sit down in his armchair, and allow
himself to be transported to Rome or Milan or wherever it was that as a
young man his ears were first opened to the sensual beauties of the human
voice. He wanted his father’s breast to swell with that old joy; if only
for an hour, he wanted him to relive that lost youth, forget his present
crushed and humiliated existence. Above all he wanted his father to forgive
him. Forgive me! he wanted to say to his father. Forgive you? Heavens, what
is there to forgive? he wanted to hear his father reply. Upon which, if he
could summon up the courage, he would at last make full confession: Forgive
me for deliberately and with malice aforethought scratching your Tebaldi
record. And for more besides, so much more that the recital would take all
day. For countless acts of meanness. For the meanness of heart in which
those acts originated. In sum, for all I have done since the day I was born,
and with such success, to make your life a misery.
But no, there was no indication, not the faintest, that during his absences
from the house Tebaldi was being set free to sing. Tebaldi had, it seemed,
lost her charms; or else his father was playing a terrible game with him. My
life a misery? What makes you think my life has been a misery? What makes
you think you have ever had it in your power to make my life a misery?
Intermittently he plays the Tebaldi record for himself; and as he listens
the beginnings of some kind of transformation seem to take place inside him.
As it must have been with his father in 1944, his heart too begins to throb
in time with Mimi’s. As the great rising arc of her voice must have called
out his father’s soul, so it now calls out his soul too, urging it to join
hers in passionate, soaring flight.
What has been wrong with him all these years? Why has he not been listening
to Verdi, to Puccini? Has he been deaf? Or is the truth worse than that: Did
he, even as a youth, hear and recognize perfectly well the call of Tebaldi,
and then with tight-lipped primness (“I won’t!”) refuse to heed it? Down
with Tebaldi, down with Italy, down with the flesh! And if his father must
go down too in the general wreck, so be it! |
b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 2 普契尼的音乐是非常抓人。我小时候第一次听到che gelida manina的时候,震撼啊
来一段Tebaldi的:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCR0Zc2KlFY
briefly
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : J.M. Coetzee - "Summertime" : And then there is the matter of his father’s music. After Mussolini : capitulated in 1944 and the Germans were driven north, the Allied troops : occupying Italy, including the South Africans, were allowed to relax briefly : and enjoy themselves. Among the recreations mounted for them were free : performances in the big opera houses. Young men from America, Britain, and : the farflung British dominions across the seas, wholly innocent of Italian : opera, were plunged into the drama of Tosca or The Barber of Seville or : Lucia di Lammermoor. Only a handful took to it, but his father was among : that handful. Brought up on sentimental Irish and English ballads, he was
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M*****g 发帖数: 1054 | 3 我小时候听到这些的感受和库切很像。。。。that sensuous and decadent music
upset me。。。如此奔放的感情简直是可鄙的。。。。宁可听有逻辑感的巴赫舒伯特。。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 普契尼的音乐是非常抓人。我小时候第一次听到che gelida manina的时候,震撼啊 : 来一段Tebaldi的: : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCR0Zc2KlFY : : briefly
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M*****g 发帖数: 1054 | 4 而且有象库切一样要把这很肉感的美破毁掉的冲动。。。。 |
m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 5 but your writings are full of negative energy... why?
briefly
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : J.M. Coetzee - "Summertime" : And then there is the matter of his father’s music. After Mussolini : capitulated in 1944 and the Germans were driven north, the Allied troops : occupying Italy, including the South Africans, were allowed to relax briefly : and enjoy themselves. Among the recreations mounted for them were free : performances in the big opera houses. Young men from America, Britain, and : the farflung British dominions across the seas, wholly innocent of Italian : opera, were plunged into the drama of Tosca or The Barber of Seville or : Lucia di Lammermoor. Only a handful took to it, but his father was among : that handful. Brought up on sentimental Irish and English ballads, he was
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l******k 发帖数: 27533 | 6 关关帮忙翻译总结下?
我下班后看英语就头昏眼花。。。
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : but your writings are full of negative energy... why? : : briefly
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M*****g 发帖数: 1054 | 7 这个说得我好怕怕啊。。。
库切的writing难道不悲观地么?。。。他说的羞耻,说得无法记忆,因而无法原谅。
。。
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : but your writings are full of negative energy... why? : : briefly
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M*****g 发帖数: 1054 | 8 不过说到底,这种悲观是美学上的悲观。。。总是看到讽刺孤独的一面。。。
就象画画一样,同样两个人看到一个苹果,画出来的感情色彩都不一样。。
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : but your writings are full of negative energy... why? : : briefly
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 9 这个人比较无趣:
Author Rian Malan has said that:
Coetzee is a man of almost monkish self-discipline and dedication. He
does not drink, smoke or eat meat. He cycles vast distances to keep fit and
spends at least an hour at his writing-desk each morning, seven days a week.
A colleague who has worked with him for more than a decade claims to have
seen him laugh just once. An acquaintance has attended several dinner
parties where Coetzee has uttered not a single word.[21]
搞笑的是,申请绿卡被拒,因为参加反战抗议活动。还是发现很多买买提的小将都比他
聪明,从来只在网上喷,生活中绝对低调,积极申请绿卡……
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个说得我好怕怕啊。。。 : 库切的writing难道不悲观地么?。。。他说的羞耻,说得无法记忆,因而无法原谅。 : 。。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 10 忧郁?
and
Italian
was
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : but your writings are full of negative energy... why? : : briefly
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d**e 发帖数: 9591 | 11 ###此帖已应当事人要求删除###
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个人比较无趣: : Author Rian Malan has said that: : Coetzee is a man of almost monkish self-discipline and dedication. He : does not drink, smoke or eat meat. He cycles vast distances to keep fit and : spends at least an hour at his writing-desk each morning, seven days a week. : A colleague who has worked with him for more than a decade claims to have : seen him laugh just once. An acquaintance has attended several dinner : parties where Coetzee has uttered not a single word.[21] : 搞笑的是,申请绿卡被拒,因为参加反战抗议活动。还是发现很多买买提的小将都比他 : 聪明,从来只在网上喷,生活中绝对低调,积极申请绿卡……
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d**e 发帖数: 9591 | 12 ###此帖已应当事人要求删除###
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 普契尼的音乐是非常抓人。我小时候第一次听到che gelida manina的时候,震撼啊 : 来一段Tebaldi的: : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCR0Zc2KlFY : : briefly
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 13 我倒是觉得这段写得相当的温暖(gentle?),对过去,记忆和人物关系,都有寻求沟通
与和解的意思。至于无法记忆导致的原谅无从谈起,我觉得那是人生里的叹息--错位和
无法完满是常有的事情嘛。不过他都这样写到Mimi了,我觉得感情还是很泛滥的 :
-)
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个说得我好怕怕啊。。。 : 库切的writing难道不悲观地么?。。。他说的羞耻,说得无法记忆,因而无法原谅。 : 。。
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M*****g 发帖数: 1054 | 14 啊。。。我觉得他写的比我写的要悲愤得多啊。。。
Forgive me for deliberately and with malice aforethought scratching your
Tebaldi
record.。。。For countless acts of meanness. For the meanness of heart in
which those acts originated. In sum, for all I have done since the day I was
born,
and with such success, to make your life a misery.
这句话是有点温暖的:
He wanted his father’s breast to swell with that old joy; if only for an
hour, he wanted him to relive that lost youth, forget his present crushed
and humiliated existence.
不过你要是说我写的比库切写的还苦涩。。那我觉得简直是有点高兴的哈。。。 |
M*****g 发帖数: 1054 | 15 所以买买提的小将是买买提的小将, 库切是库切....
and
week.
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个人比较无趣: : Author Rian Malan has said that: : Coetzee is a man of almost monkish self-discipline and dedication. He : does not drink, smoke or eat meat. He cycles vast distances to keep fit and : spends at least an hour at his writing-desk each morning, seven days a week. : A colleague who has worked with him for more than a decade claims to have : seen him laugh just once. An acquaintance has attended several dinner : parties where Coetzee has uttered not a single word.[21] : 搞笑的是,申请绿卡被拒,因为参加反战抗议活动。还是发现很多买买提的小将都比他 : 聪明,从来只在网上喷,生活中绝对低调,积极申请绿卡……
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 16 这个里面有对meanness的反思,人物有变化;你的前几篇好像都在acts of meanness的
阶段。确实,能mean到一个程度也是了得的。我上个礼拜看了一个电影,叫punching
the clown, 确实很尖锐搞笑,但是我就感觉到特别mean,让我念叨了好久。
was
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 啊。。。我觉得他写的比我写的要悲愤得多啊。。。 : Forgive me for deliberately and with malice aforethought scratching your : Tebaldi : record.。。。For countless acts of meanness. For the meanness of heart in : which those acts originated. In sum, for all I have done since the day I was : born, : and with such success, to make your life a misery. : 这句话是有点温暖的: : He wanted his father’s breast to swell with that old joy; if only for an : hour, he wanted him to relive that lost youth, forget his present crushed
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M*****g 发帖数: 1054 | 17 我大概明白了你的意思。。。好吧,下一个写一个反悔的。。。
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个里面有对meanness的反思,人物有变化;你的前几篇好像都在acts of meanness的 : 阶段。确实,能mean到一个程度也是了得的。我上个礼拜看了一个电影,叫punching : the clown, 确实很尖锐搞笑,但是我就感觉到特别mean,让我念叨了好久。 : : was
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M*****g 发帖数: 1054 | 18 可是话说回来,这本书整本都是库切对自己的反思,所以你能看到某种追寻与无法追寻
之间落差的温暖。儿子对父亲对青春的忏悔。他的大多数其他作品是没有这一层的。就
是一个人对世界直白的失望。
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个里面有对meanness的反思,人物有变化;你的前几篇好像都在acts of meanness的 : 阶段。确实,能mean到一个程度也是了得的。我上个礼拜看了一个电影,叫punching : the clown, 确实很尖锐搞笑,但是我就感觉到特别mean,让我念叨了好久。 : : was
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 19 你那是青涩,哈哈……
was
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 啊。。。我觉得他写的比我写的要悲愤得多啊。。。 : Forgive me for deliberately and with malice aforethought scratching your : Tebaldi : record.。。。For countless acts of meanness. For the meanness of heart in : which those acts originated. In sum, for all I have done since the day I was : born, : and with such success, to make your life a misery. : 这句话是有点温暖的: : He wanted his father’s breast to swell with that old joy; if only for an : hour, he wanted him to relive that lost youth, forget his present crushed
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 20 前三十年不怕,后三十年不悔……
meanness的
punching
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我大概明白了你的意思。。。好吧,下一个写一个反悔的。。。
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 21 恩,没看过库切。你推荐一个?
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 可是话说回来,这本书整本都是库切对自己的反思,所以你能看到某种追寻与无法追寻 : 之间落差的温暖。儿子对父亲对青春的忏悔。他的大多数其他作品是没有这一层的。就 : 是一个人对世界直白的失望。
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M*****g 发帖数: 1054 | 22 "Summertime", "Age of Iron", "Youth", "Disgrace"...
不过你要是想看一些温暖的东西最好还是别看库切。。。
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 恩,没看过库切。你推荐一个?
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 23 是不是disgrace最有名?他写的东西冰冷是不是也是情有可原啊。。。
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "Summertime", "Age of Iron", "Youth", "Disgrace"... : 不过你要是想看一些温暖的东西最好还是别看库切。。。
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M*****g 发帖数: 1054 | 24 最喜欢"Summertime" and "Age of Iron"。..。这世界上每一种情绪都是有情可原的
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是不是disgrace最有名?他写的东西冰冷是不是也是情有可原啊。。。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 25 十多年都不笑一下的人,能够warm到哪里去?
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是不是disgrace最有名?他写的东西冰冷是不是也是情有可原啊。。。
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 26 哈哈,那是不是有点太自恋了。
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 最喜欢"Summertime" and "Age of Iron"。..。这世界上每一种情绪都是有情可原的
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 27 据说南非那是相当的郁闷。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 十多年都不笑一下的人,能够warm到哪里去?
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M*****g 发帖数: 1054 | 28 取决于作者想要创造出的美学价值。。近为苛刻的严酷,忏悔,失望也是一种美感啊。。
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哈哈,那是不是有点太自恋了。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 29 他在美国住了很久,绿卡被deny后,又去澳大利亚,澳大利亚给了个公民,不在南非很
久了也
人家Charlize Theron也没有那么郁闷……
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 据说南非那是相当的郁闷。
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 30 听着很sm
。。
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 取决于作者想要创造出的美学价值。。近为苛刻的严酷,忏悔,失望也是一种美感啊。。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 32 名媛教育过我们,BDSM可以开慧……
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 听着很sm : : 。。
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 33 soul mate?
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : sm是什么?
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 34 恩。。。好像也是啊。我看我还是从summertime看起好了,真应景。^_^
。。
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 取决于作者想要创造出的美学价值。。近为苛刻的严酷,忏悔,失望也是一种美感啊。。
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M*****g 发帖数: 1054 | 35 热爱库切的MemForg看了bos的杂边杂角好象库切还真怎么拿绿卡当回事一样的评论吐血
身亡。。。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 他在美国住了很久,绿卡被deny后,又去澳大利亚,澳大利亚给了个公民,不在南非很 : 久了也 : 人家Charlize Theron也没有那么郁闷……
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m*****n 发帖数: 7450 | 36 哼唧,你今天处于抬杠mode
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 他在美国住了很久,绿卡被deny后,又去澳大利亚,澳大利亚给了个公民,不在南非很 : 久了也 : 人家Charlize Theron也没有那么郁闷……
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 37 名媛很多喜欢文史
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 名媛教育过我们,BDSM可以开慧……
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 38 !@#$%^&!
完全没有听名媛的教导。前阵子还有人Review Marquis de Sade呢,哈哈……
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : sm是什么?
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 39 哈哈哈,高!
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : soul mate?
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 40 夏天的时候,人们都挂冰雪北极熊一类的装饰画的……
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 恩。。。好像也是啊。我看我还是从summertime看起好了,真应景。^_^ : : 。。
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 41 不要太当回事
非很
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 热爱库切的MemForg看了bos的杂边杂角好象库切还真怎么拿绿卡当回事一样的评论吐血 : 身亡。。。
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b********n 发帖数: 16354 | 42 lol,我要小本本记下来~~
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : soul mate?
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 43 那是缺省模式……
非很
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哼唧,你今天处于抬杠mode
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 44 诗人可以往名媛方向努力……
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 名媛很多喜欢文史
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M*****g 发帖数: 1054 | 45 bdsm又是什么
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 名媛教育过我们,BDSM可以开慧……
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 46 这种例子挺多的。
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 诗人可以往名媛方向努力……
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M*****g 发帖数: 1054 | 47 记下来什么。。原来你也不知道sm是soul mate?....
【在 b********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : lol,我要小本本记下来~~
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 48 打倒moleskine elitist
【在 b********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : lol,我要小本本记下来~~
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b********n 发帖数: 16354 | 49 谁来救救我~~
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 记下来什么。。原来你也不知道sm是soul mate?....
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 50 哎,我本来也想呼救的
【在 b********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 谁来救救我~~
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 51 beautiful, delicious, soul mate……
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : bdsm又是什么
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 52 哈哈,she knew that we knew that she knew
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 记下来什么。。原来你也不知道sm是soul mate?....
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b********n 发帖数: 16354 | 53 你看bos像能救我俩的么~~
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哎,我本来也想呼救的
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 54 他就是个再加俩形容词的主。
【在 b********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你看bos像能救我俩的么~~
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 55 当然还是皮总……
【在 b********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 谁来救救我~~
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 56 不能。落井下石没问题,救人不是我的forte……
【在 b********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你看bos像能救我俩的么~~
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s**********y 发帖数: 8135 | 57 何故平白呼救
【在 b********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 谁来救救我~~
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 58 找英雄,救美……
【在 s**********y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 何故平白呼救
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s**********y 发帖数: 8135 | 59 没看出遇了什么险啊
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 找英雄,救美……
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 60 soul mate的safeword,估计是……
【在 s**********y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 没看出遇了什么险啊
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d**e 发帖数: 9591 | 61 ###此帖已应当事人要求删除###
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 十多年都不笑一下的人,能够warm到哪里去?
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 62 喝,你这扛算是抬上了……
【在 d**e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : ###此帖已应当事人要求删除###
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d**e 发帖数: 9591 | 63 ###此帖已应当事人要求删除###
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 喝,你这扛算是抬上了……
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 64 是我一直在和大伙抬杠……
【在 d**e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : ###此帖已应当事人要求删除###
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d**e 发帖数: 9591 | 65 ###此帖已应当事人要求删除###
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是我一直在和大伙抬杠……
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 66 我打非桥牌的牌的时候特喜欢抬杠,也干出过一人挑战全桌的事情。
【在 d**e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : ###此帖已应当事人要求删除###
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d**e 发帖数: 9591 | 67 ###此帖已应当事人要求删除###
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我打非桥牌的牌的时候特喜欢抬杠,也干出过一人挑战全桌的事情。
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b*******r 发帖数: 1073 | 68 文盲问一句:
"本书整本都是库切对自己的反思,所以你能看到某种追寻与无法追寻之间落差的。。
。就
是一个人对世界直白的失望。"
"对自己的反思"是怎么转化为对"对世界直白的失望"的?
多少能体会到一点点"追寻与无法追寻之间的落差", (还很少温暖)
对自己直白的失望更多。
【在 M*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 可是话说回来,这本书整本都是库切对自己的反思,所以你能看到某种追寻与无法追寻 : 之间落差的温暖。儿子对父亲对青春的忏悔。他的大多数其他作品是没有这一层的。就 : 是一个人对世界直白的失望。
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s**a 发帖数: 8648 | 69 文史是谁?
我灭了他。
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 名媛很多喜欢文史
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w**m 发帖数: 4061 | 70 他的 waiting for the barbarians 都已经摆在案头了 下头两三本书应该就会读到
从来没读过他,很期待 |
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T*******n 发帖数: 3229 | 71 哈哈,我来翻译一下,版主,这个该有包子啦~
J.M.库切 - “夏令时”
再有就是他父亲的音乐问题。之后,墨索里尼
在1944年被逐出德国北部,盟军部队投降
意大利占领,包括南非,被允许简单的放松
享受生活。安装之间的娱乐活动,他们是自由的
在大歌剧院的演出。年轻男子从美国,英国,
farflung英国自治领飘洋过海,完全无辜的意大利
歌剧,陷入剧“托斯卡”塞维利亚的理发师
露西亚DI拉美莫尔。只有极少数了,但他的父亲是其中
是极少数。他带来感伤的爱尔兰和英国的民谣,
郁郁葱葱的新音乐迷住了,不堪重负的奇观。后一天
一天,他又回到更多。
所以,当下士库切在敌对行动结束返回南非,
这是一个新发现的歌剧的热情。 “LA DONNA E Mobile公司,”他会
在洗澡唱歌。 “费加罗报”在这里,费加罗报“有”,他会唱歌,“费加罗报,
费加罗,Feeegaro! “他出去买了一台留声机,他们的家庭
第一;一遍又一遍,他将扮演一个卡鲁索78转录音
唱着“你的小手被冻结了。”时长播放记录
发明,他获得了新的,更好的留声机,一起专辑
雷娜塔·泰巴尔迪歌唱得好,爱的咏叹调。
因此,在他的少年时代,有两个学校的声乐战争
在房子的每个其他:意大利的学校,他的父亲,表现
泰巴尔迪和铁托在全哭戈比和德国学校,自己成立
在巴赫。周日下午所有家庭会淹没在从合唱团
在B小调弥撒,然后在与巴赫晚上最后,沉默,他
父亲将自己倒了一杯白兰地,在雷娜塔泰巴尔迪把,坐
听下来,真正的旋律,真正的唱歌。
其性感和颓废是如何,在十六岁时,他
看到它,他解决,他将永远憎恨和鄙视意大利歌剧。他
可能会轻视它,只是因为他的父亲喜欢它,他将不得不
解决仇恨和蔑视,他的父亲爱的世界中的任何,
是有可能的,他不会承认。
有一天,当周围没有人,他的泰巴尔迪记录其
套筒,用刀片提请了深刻的成绩,在其表面。
上周日晚上,他的父亲记录在案。随着各革命
针跳。 “是谁这样做呢?”他要求。但是,没有人,似乎,
做了它。它刚刚发生。
因此,截至泰巴尔迪现在巴赫统治受到挑战。
碌碌无为,他的行为,他为过去20年里已经感受到
痛苦的悔恨,悔恨,并没有随着时间的推移退去
但增长相反激烈。他的第一个动作,当他回到
该国是冲刷的的泰巴尔迪纪录的音乐商店。虽然
他没能找到它,他来后,她唱一些编译
相同的咏叹调。他把它带回家,并发挥它通过从开始
结束,希望作为一个猎人,以吸引他的房间,他的父亲可能会引诱
鸟与他的管道。但他的父亲没有表现出兴趣。
他问:“你不认识的声音?”。
他的父亲摇了摇头。
“这是雷娜塔泰巴尔迪。你不记得你如何使用“爱泰巴尔迪
昔日“
他拒绝接受失败。他仍然希望有一天,当他
出了家门,他的父亲将放在新的,无瑕疵的纪录
播放器,自己倒了一杯白兰地,在他的扶手椅上坐下,并允许
自己被运到罗马或米兰或任何地方,它是作为一个
年轻人自己的耳朵,第一次打开人类的感性美女
的声音。他希望他的父亲的乳房膨胀与旧的喜悦;如果只
他想了一个小时,他重温那逝去的青春,忘记了他目前的
粉碎和羞辱的存在。首先,他希望父亲宽恕
他。原谅我吧!他希望他的父亲说。原谅你吗?天哪,什么
有原谅?他想听到他的父亲答复。后,如果他
可以鼓起勇气,他会让最后供认:原谅
我刮你故意和预谋泰巴尔迪
记录。更多除了这么多,演奏会采取一切
一天。对于无数的卑劣行径。为心脏卑鄙
这些行为的起源。总之,因为我已经做了我出生的那一天,
与这样的成功,让你的生活苦难。
但是,没有,没有任何迹象表明,不是微弱,期间他的缺席
从房子泰巴尔迪设置免费唱。泰巴尔迪了,似乎,
失去了她的魅力,否则,他的父亲打他一个可怕的游戏。我的
生活有几多愁?是什么让你觉得我的生活一直是痛苦?是什么让
你认为你曾经在你的力量,它使我的生活有几多愁?
间歇,他扮演的的泰巴尔迪记录;为自己和为他听
一些转型的开端,似乎内采取他的地方。
由于它必须在1944年与他的父亲,他的心也开始悸动
在咪咪的时间。作为伟大的上升弧线,她的声音必须有一个名为
了他父亲的灵魂,所以,现在召唤出他的灵魂,敦促其加入
她的热情,飙升飞行。
一直与他错了,这些年?为什么他不听
威尔第,普契尼?他聋了吗?或者是比这还要糟糕的真相:
即使是作为一个青年,他听到和认识很好泰巴尔迪呼叫,
然后守口如瓶拘谨(“我不会!”)拒绝听取?向下
的泰巴尔迪,向下与意大利,下来的肉!而如果他的父亲
在一般的沉船下去,就这样吧!
【在 l******k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 关关帮忙翻译总结下? : 我下班后看英语就头昏眼花。。。
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b********n 发帖数: 16354 | 72 哈哈,繁花V5~~
【在 T*******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哈哈,我来翻译一下,版主,这个该有包子啦~ : J.M.库切 - “夏令时” : 再有就是他父亲的音乐问题。之后,墨索里尼 : 在1944年被逐出德国北部,盟军部队投降 : 意大利占领,包括南非,被允许简单的放松 : 享受生活。安装之间的娱乐活动,他们是自由的 : 在大歌剧院的演出。年轻男子从美国,英国, : farflung英国自治领飘洋过海,完全无辜的意大利 : 歌剧,陷入剧“托斯卡”塞维利亚的理发师 : 露西亚DI拉美莫尔。只有极少数了,但他的父亲是其中
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l*r 发帖数: 79569 | 73 火鸡快来看,这翻译能不能提高一下?
【在 T*******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哈哈,我来翻译一下,版主,这个该有包子啦~ : J.M.库切 - “夏令时” : 再有就是他父亲的音乐问题。之后,墨索里尼 : 在1944年被逐出德国北部,盟军部队投降 : 意大利占领,包括南非,被允许简单的放松 : 享受生活。安装之间的娱乐活动,他们是自由的 : 在大歌剧院的演出。年轻男子从美国,英国, : farflung英国自治领飘洋过海,完全无辜的意大利 : 歌剧,陷入剧“托斯卡”塞维利亚的理发师 : 露西亚DI拉美莫尔。只有极少数了,但他的父亲是其中
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