l**p
发帖数: 569 | 1 跟左侧邻居的fence是我原来房主修的，至少20多年了，很破烂但还可以用。
前几天邻居说他可以出钱把我的fence换掉，新的fence就沿着原来的fence修。
当时答应了。
这几天想了一下，觉得fence应该是在我的property上的，如果邻居把他的
fence建好，那fence外边应该有1尺多的land不就变成他们家的了吗？听说
有个说法好像是说如果把公共的easement拿个栏子围起来，几年后就变成
自己的了。担心邻居换了fence后不但我丢了fence外面的land，以后邻居
也可能说fence是建在他们的land上，那我们就丢了更多的land了。
是不是跟邻居写个notice，双方签字，就说邻居修fence有可能是在我的land
上，一切应该以land survery为准，这样是不是就可以了？
我们town修fence不需要permit，也不需要plot survey。 |
H******7
发帖数: 34403 | 2 好象似的，叫encroachment，三年内不反对就成事实，fence就不能拆了，不过land应
该还属于你的。
你如果签了agreement,则称为license,可随时撤销，意味着你随时可以拆fence，这样
的话邻居可能不乐意。 |
l**p
发帖数: 569 | 3 多谢老胡，第一次见你这么正经的回答问题 :-)
如果encroachment的话land还是我的，我倒不担心那个fence。毕竟应该只有一个
fence，在我的land上建邻居的fence也可以，只要我不丢land。看起来也不
需要签个协议了。
不过如果双方签个协议的话，不去公证也会具有法律效力？就是担心万一以后如果
我的land丢失的话，是不是拿着这个协议会有帮助。
【在 H******7 的大作中提到】
: 好象似的，叫encroachment，三年内不反对就成事实，fence就不能拆了，不过land应
: 该还属于你的。
: 你如果签了agreement,则称为license,可随时撤销，意味着你随时可以拆fence，这样
: 的话邻居可能不乐意。
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l**p
发帖数: 569 | 4 签个协议就可以防止land变成他的了？
刚才google了一下，好像说10-12年他就可以cliam成他的了：
In many regions of the world, property encroachment is covered under adverse
possession laws. Under these laws, if someone openly uses and improves land
and pays property taxes, he or she can take possession of it after a
certain period of time. For example, a neighbor might use part of someone
else's lot as a driveway, constituting open use and improvement if he or she
paves or gravels the drive. After several years, they can file for the deed
to the land, arguing that they took possession openly and no one complained
, and they paid property taxes and upgraded the land. |
l**p
发帖数: 569 | 5 多谢了。
刚才又查了一下， 麻省是20年，而且必须是“without owner's consent”。看起来
签个agreement，或者每年给邻居写个notice提醒他fence可能是在我的land上可以
防止adverse possession：
Adverse possession is a way of acquiring title to real property by
physically occupying it for a long period of time. As strange as it may seem
to the non-lawyer, you may acquire property without the consent of the
actual title holder if you possess it long enough and meet the legal
requirements discussed below. Also discussed below are the theories that
underlie this doctrine.
In Massachusetts you must possess the property being claimed, continuously
for 20 years (Mass. Gen. L. ch. 260, sec.21) To meet the requirements for
adverse possession you must also show that:
1) You were the exclusive possessor and actually entered the property.
2) Your possession must be open and notorious--your possession must be seen.
The possession must be appropriate to the type, size and use of the land.
Enclosures, houses, cabins, payment of taxes all help establish your claim.
The general idea is to give the owner reasonable notice that you are in
possession and give him the opportunity to eject you.
3) Your possession must be adverse to the owners claim, in other words
without the owners consent. If the owner has given permission for you to be
on the property you can't claim the property adversely.
4) Your possession must be continuous (for 20 years). If your entry was only
occasional you may be deemed a trespasser and not be able to claim adverse
possession. However, certain seasonal or intermittent uses satisfy the
continuous element if the average owner of a particular piece of property
would use it in that manner (e.g. a summer home).
Continuity can also be established by adding together or "tacking"
successive adverse possessors. For example if A possesses the land for 15
years and then gives it to B who possesses it for 5 years, B may then claim
title by adverse possession by tacking the two claims.
Massachusetts has a special land registration system in which a question of
title can be brought to the Land Court which investigates and evaluates the
merits of the claim. Based on its findings the court can issue a new
certificate of title. A further advantage of this procedure (to the owner)
is that property registered through the land court cannot be adversely
possessed. |
k**u
发帖数: 10502 | 6 要是在旧金山寸土寸金的地方，就叫他修在自己家的地上，或者地界上好了。
如果是中部农场，就无所谓了。
【在 l**p 的大作中提到】
: 跟左侧邻居的fence是我原来房主修的，至少20多年了，很破烂但还可以用。
: 前几天邻居说他可以出钱把我的fence换掉，新的fence就沿着原来的fence修。
: 当时答应了。
: 这几天想了一下，觉得fence应该是在我的property上的，如果邻居把他的
: fence建好，那fence外边应该有1尺多的land不就变成他们家的了吗？听说
: 有个说法好像是说如果把公共的easement拿个栏子围起来，几年后就变成
: 自己的了。担心邻居换了fence后不但我丢了fence外面的land，以后邻居
: 也可能说fence是建在他们的land上，那我们就丢了更多的land了。
: 是不是跟邻居写个notice，双方签字，就说邻居修fence有可能是在我的land
: 上，一切应该以land survery为准，这样是不是就可以了？
|
l*****o
发帖数: 26631 | 7 你确定fence是在你的property上吗？
我这边都是靠fence来分割的。这边就是我家，那边就是邻居的
【在 l**p 的大作中提到】
: 跟左侧邻居的fence是我原来房主修的，至少20多年了，很破烂但还可以用。
: 前几天邻居说他可以出钱把我的fence换掉，新的fence就沿着原来的fence修。
: 当时答应了。
: 这几天想了一下，觉得fence应该是在我的property上的，如果邻居把他的
: fence建好，那fence外边应该有1尺多的land不就变成他们家的了吗？听说
: 有个说法好像是说如果把公共的easement拿个栏子围起来，几年后就变成
: 自己的了。担心邻居换了fence后不但我丢了fence外面的land，以后邻居
: 也可能说fence是建在他们的land上，那我们就丢了更多的land了。
: 是不是跟邻居写个notice，双方签字，就说邻居修fence有可能是在我的land
: 上，一切应该以land survery为准，这样是不是就可以了？
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