H******7 发帖数: 34403 | 1 无证"师傅"的话拒付他们也一点办法没有吧,他们也不能象正规contractor一样放个
lien吧 |
l**h 发帖数: 7994 | 2 他们的好处是便宜。
幸好没有让这两位给我做水的东西,我是万幸了。
千万别用那个姓苗的了。
【在 H******7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 无证"师傅"的话拒付他们也一点办法没有吧,他们也不能象正规contractor一样放个 : lien吧
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q*z 发帖数: 13362 | 3 合同总是要先签的,而且工钱你要预付一部分,最后的那些,你如果扣了,他只能跟你打官
司或者给你搞破坏
【在 H******7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 无证"师傅"的话拒付他们也一点办法没有吧,他们也不能象正规contractor一样放个 : lien吧
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z***9 发帖数: 1052 | 4 you can "technically" discuss this possibility only. in reality, it's
almost impossible to do.
they know where you live, they know you have a house, a decent job, and
income. and you can imagine what they will do if you don't pay them.
don't hire them at the first place is the only way. |
H******7 发帖数: 34403 | 5 你说的他们都是黑帮似的。他们也是欺软怕硬的,真要弄到叫警察的或蹲监狱的,又软
了。
【在 z***9 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : you can "technically" discuss this possibility only. in reality, it's : almost impossible to do. : they know where you live, they know you have a house, a decent job, and : income. and you can imagine what they will do if you don't pay them. : don't hire them at the first place is the only way.
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z***9 发帖数: 1052 | 6 they don't have to hassle you face to face. smash a dozen of eggs of on your
cherished stone lions one night, poo poo on your drive way another night.
do you have time to handle all these?
【在 H******7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你说的他们都是黑帮似的。他们也是欺软怕硬的,真要弄到叫警察的或蹲监狱的,又软 : 了。
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H******7 发帖数: 34403 | 7 照这个逻辑,世界上一切不平等交易你都得忍了。或者每户人家的drive way上都应遍
布poo poo了
your
【在 z***9 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : they don't have to hassle you face to face. smash a dozen of eggs of on your : cherished stone lions one night, poo poo on your drive way another night. : do you have time to handle all these? :
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z***9 发帖数: 1052 | 8 there are some contractors who have licenses and formal business, so you can
sue them, leave bad reviews on them, or BBB them. there are formal ways to
deal with them, and they will be afraid of that.
but unlicensed workers, they don't have any business, they don't have a
company to sue, they don't have an account on BBB either. they don't care
about reviews, and you don't know where to review them.
so my point is to avoid them if possible.
【在 H******7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 照这个逻辑,世界上一切不平等交易你都得忍了。或者每户人家的drive way上都应遍 : 布poo poo了 : : your
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H******7 发帖数: 34403 | 9 对于你这个论点我自然没有疑义。我的point是无证"师傅"也不是完全治不了的,本帖
就是探讨可能的方法。
can
to
【在 z***9 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : there are some contractors who have licenses and formal business, so you can : sue them, leave bad reviews on them, or BBB them. there are formal ways to : deal with them, and they will be afraid of that. : but unlicensed workers, they don't have any business, they don't have a : company to sue, they don't have an account on BBB either. they don't care : about reviews, and you don't know where to review them. : so my point is to avoid them if possible.
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z***9 发帖数: 1052 | 10 mine is the ultimate way to 治无证"师傅".
just like how to deal with allergy, the best way is to avoid allergens. |
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l**h 发帖数: 7994 | 11 但是他们便宜。当初还觉得都是中国人,不会差到哪去。
【在 z***9 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : mine is the ultimate way to 治无证"师傅". : just like how to deal with allergy, the best way is to avoid allergens.
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J**S 发帖数: 25790 | 12 不一定把。
电视里不是说,建议用有保险的CONTRACTOR。 如果没有LICENCE,就肯定没有有保险。
工人
受伤了,讹诈你医疗费,那就亏大了。
【在 H******7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 无证"师傅"的话拒付他们也一点办法没有吧,他们也不能象正规contractor一样放个 : lien吧
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z***9 发帖数: 1052 | 13 this is a lesson we have to learn. cheap is money too.
i bought cheap stuff, and most of time will regret afterwards.
【在 l**h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 但是他们便宜。当初还觉得都是中国人,不会差到哪去。
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l**h 发帖数: 7994 | 14 哦,是呀。另外有个笔误,想说都是中国人,不是说都是人。
【在 z***9 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : this is a lesson we have to learn. cheap is money too. : i bought cheap stuff, and most of time will regret afterwards.
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w******t 发帖数: 16937 | 15 所谓便宜,是指可以按时保量的完成指定的任务和工作。
装修、改造这些事情,一旦动工完工了,想要返工可是很麻烦的事情,所以一定要在选
定工人前仔细研究和比较。
有执照,表明如果真出问题了,至少你可以有地方砸他饭碗。
有保险,表明如果万一出意外了,你不会成为被别人冤枉的受害者。
这两个东西都不是很难拿或者需要很高费用支出的。
所以,看到没有这两个东西的工人,你一定要想想为什么没有。
【在 l**h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 但是他们便宜。当初还觉得都是中国人,不会差到哪去。
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l**h 发帖数: 7994 | 16 嗯,以后不省这个钱。主要是墙面让我难受,地板翘起来的在边上,我可以用家具
挡上也不用那块地。还好没有动水的东西。
【在 w******t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 所谓便宜,是指可以按时保量的完成指定的任务和工作。 : 装修、改造这些事情,一旦动工完工了,想要返工可是很麻烦的事情,所以一定要在选 : 定工人前仔细研究和比较。 : 有执照,表明如果真出问题了,至少你可以有地方砸他饭碗。 : 有保险,表明如果万一出意外了,你不会成为被别人冤枉的受害者。 : 这两个东西都不是很难拿或者需要很高费用支出的。 : 所以,看到没有这两个东西的工人,你一定要想想为什么没有。
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f****i 发帖数: 20252 | 17 中国人就没有坑蒙拐骗了?
【在 l**h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 但是他们便宜。当初还觉得都是中国人,不会差到哪去。
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H******7 发帖数: 34403 | 18 上照片
【在 l**h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嗯,以后不省这个钱。主要是墙面让我难受,地板翘起来的在边上,我可以用家具 : 挡上也不用那块地。还好没有动水的东西。
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l**h 发帖数: 7994 | 19 等我回家的时候。顺便看看找别人干会花多少钱。
【在 H******7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 上照片
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