p********r
发帖数: 1980 | 1 看了这个版才知道确实有的地区还是买家市场，一棵树，一个灯都可以折腾的。
不象南加，据说前些时候有个一千六百尺的fixer-upper,开价$278,250，引来128个
offer,多数是现金。十天后的成交价是$377,872. 挑鼻子挑眼的，早就给扔大街了。 |
b*d
发帖数: 9308 | 2 是啊，要不为什么全国各地房价差别那么大。
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: 看了这个版才知道确实有的地区还是买家市场，一棵树，一个灯都可以折腾的。
: 不象南加，据说前些时候有个一千六百尺的fixer-upper,开价$278,250，引来128个
: offer,多数是现金。十天后的成交价是$377,872. 挑鼻子挑眼的，早就给扔大街了。
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y****t
发帖数: 577 | 3 两三年前，南加也可以挑三拣四的。忽然就冒出一大堆现金买家，本地的国内的，买房
子当网购，只看照片就下offer。不知道多久后会漫延到其他地方。
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: 看了这个版才知道确实有的地区还是买家市场，一棵树，一个灯都可以折腾的。
: 不象南加，据说前些时候有个一千六百尺的fixer-upper,开价$278,250，引来128个
: offer,多数是现金。十天后的成交价是$377,872. 挑鼻子挑眼的，早就给扔大街了。
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C******e
发帖数: 11790 | |
w******t
发帖数: 16937 | 5 看卖家定的标价了。
假设这个房子大概值个40万左右，如果标价55万，就搞不到offer，但如果标价30万，
肯定一堆offer。
所以所谓买方市场卖方市场，还跟卖主的标价有一定关系。
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: 看了这个版才知道确实有的地区还是买家市场，一棵树，一个灯都可以折腾的。
: 不象南加，据说前些时候有个一千六百尺的fixer-upper,开价$278,250，引来128个
: offer,多数是现金。十天后的成交价是$377,872. 挑鼻子挑眼的，早就给扔大街了。
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p********r
发帖数: 1980 | 6 Yes, but it is a fixer-upper so it is hard to determine its market price.
Take a look at the pictures yourself:
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Granada-Hills/16410-Armstead-St-91344/
Also, buyer or seller market is not determined by the listing price. It is
determined by the supply and demand. If the inventory is only one months and
you have 6-months demand (which applies to most of SoCal), you have a
seller's market.
【在 w******t 的大作中提到】
: 看卖家定的标价了。
: 假设这个房子大概值个40万左右，如果标价55万，就搞不到offer，但如果标价30万，
: 肯定一堆offer。
: 所以所谓买方市场卖方市场，还跟卖主的标价有一定关系。
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w******t
发帖数: 16937 | 7 我前面说的是"有一定关系"，不是说必然关系。
标价过高了的房子，即便是在买方市场，也是得等着降价。举个特例，在湾区二百万小
黑屋区，如果一个很大众的小黑屋标价500万美元，多少人会出offer啊。例子夸张了些
，领会精神领会精神。
and
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: Yes, but it is a fixer-upper so it is hard to determine its market price.
: Take a look at the pictures yourself:
: http://www.redfin.com/CA/Granada-Hills/16410-Armstead-St-91344/
: Also, buyer or seller market is not determined by the listing price. It is
: determined by the supply and demand. If the inventory is only one months and
: you have 6-months demand (which applies to most of SoCal), you have a
: seller's market.
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w******y
发帖数: 8040 | 8 南加算个P
看看弯曲的抢房潮
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: 看了这个版才知道确实有的地区还是买家市场，一棵树，一个灯都可以折腾的。
: 不象南加，据说前些时候有个一千六百尺的fixer-upper,开价$278,250，引来128个
: offer,多数是现金。十天后的成交价是$377,872. 挑鼻子挑眼的，早就给扔大街了。
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p********r
发帖数: 1980 | 9 hehe, I agree. But it's not my problem.
【在 w******y 的大作中提到】
: 南加算个P
: 看看弯曲的抢房潮
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p****u
发帖数: 2596 | 10 我准备买那房子几个灯加起来１万块以上，为啥不能折腾拉？
当然我之前也一直觉得，破灯把，最多几百块.
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: 看了这个版才知道确实有的地区还是买家市场，一棵树，一个灯都可以折腾的。
: 不象南加，据说前些时候有个一千六百尺的fixer-upper,开价$278,250，引来128个
: offer,多数是现金。十天后的成交价是$377,872. 挑鼻子挑眼的，早就给扔大街了。
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p********r
发帖数: 1980 | 11 Of course you can and you should...if there no other buyers behind you.
Here, sometimes if you don't remove contingency when you submit your offer,
you are out. You won't get the house if the seller doesn't like you. You won
't get the house if the appraisal comes in below your price and you are not
willing to come up with cash for the difference. It is as simple as that.
We will soon see 2004-2005 market again here when everyone is bidding up
price crazy. You would think we won't make the same mistake again so soon.
Bernanke must think he has a magic weapon to stop the housing price to go up
into 2006 range again. But then again, in certain neighborhood (e.g. La
Jolla), the price per sqft is already above the 2006 peak.
【在 p****u 的大作中提到】
: 我准备买那房子几个灯加起来１万块以上，为啥不能折腾拉？
: 当然我之前也一直觉得，破灯把，最多几百块.
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l******r
发帖数: 4021 | 12 你这是哪儿啊？南加？
,
won
not
up
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: Of course you can and you should...if there no other buyers behind you.
: Here, sometimes if you don't remove contingency when you submit your offer,
: you are out. You won't get the house if the seller doesn't like you. You won
: 't get the house if the appraisal comes in below your price and you are not
: willing to come up with cash for the difference. It is as simple as that.
: We will soon see 2004-2005 market again here when everyone is bidding up
: price crazy. You would think we won't make the same mistake again so soon.
: Bernanke must think he has a magic weapon to stop the housing price to go up
: into 2006 range again. But then again, in certain neighborhood (e.g. La
: Jolla), the price per sqft is already above the 2006 peak.
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f********o
发帖数: 2181 | 13 这房子以前贷款就有505K
卖377K算很便宜了, 怪不得有一堆人抢
and
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: Yes, but it is a fixer-upper so it is hard to determine its market price.
: Take a look at the pictures yourself:
: http://www.redfin.com/CA/Granada-Hills/16410-Armstead-St-91344/
: Also, buyer or seller market is not determined by the listing price. It is
: determined by the supply and demand. If the inventory is only one months and
: you have 6-months demand (which applies to most of SoCal), you have a
: seller's market.
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l*****o
发帖数: 26631 | 14 不是一回事儿， 人家那是买能住进去的房子。
你这房子破成这样， 别人都是冲低价来抢， 准备彻底大修或者拆了重盖的， 当然不
来care那些细节问题，唯一重要的就是价格了。
and
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: Yes, but it is a fixer-upper so it is hard to determine its market price.
: Take a look at the pictures yourself:
: http://www.redfin.com/CA/Granada-Hills/16410-Armstead-St-91344/
: Also, buyer or seller market is not determined by the listing price. It is
: determined by the supply and demand. If the inventory is only one months and
: you have 6-months demand (which applies to most of SoCal), you have a
: seller's market.
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p********r
发帖数: 1980 | 15 By the way, come to think about it, 2004-2005 pricing is not that crazy.
The only thing we removed from the market right now is the stated income
borrowers, and most of those people probably bought in 2006. We have neg-am
loan then, but the starting rate at that time is similar to what we now have
with 30-years fixed.
And the people who foreclosed/short-sale in 2008-2009 can soon buy again,
increasing the demand. If the housing price starts to rise again, then
people with negative equity will just sit there waiting and decrease the
supply. On the other side, construction for new houses will start to make
sense and employment will rise. It is the virtuous cycle all over again. It
is easy for banks to lend money to the borrowers regardless of their credit
because the collateral is rising in value every day.
And we are doomed in the long run because we are obviously not even capable
of learning one of the most painful lessons in recent history.
,
won
not
up
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: Of course you can and you should...if there no other buyers behind you.
: Here, sometimes if you don't remove contingency when you submit your offer,
: you are out. You won't get the house if the seller doesn't like you. You won
: 't get the house if the appraisal comes in below your price and you are not
: willing to come up with cash for the difference. It is as simple as that.
: We will soon see 2004-2005 market again here when everyone is bidding up
: price crazy. You would think we won't make the same mistake again so soon.
: Bernanke must think he has a magic weapon to stop the housing price to go up
: into 2006 range again. But then again, in certain neighborhood (e.g. La
: Jolla), the price per sqft is already above the 2006 peak.
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l******r
发帖数: 4021 | 16 说得还是有道理的。这就是为啥资本主义的经济危机每隔10年左右就要来这么一次。
am
have
It
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: By the way, come to think about it, 2004-2005 pricing is not that crazy.
: The only thing we removed from the market right now is the stated income
: borrowers, and most of those people probably bought in 2006. We have neg-am
: loan then, but the starting rate at that time is similar to what we now have
: with 30-years fixed.
: And the people who foreclosed/short-sale in 2008-2009 can soon buy again,
: increasing the demand. If the housing price starts to rise again, then
: people with negative equity will just sit there waiting and decrease the
: supply. On the other side, construction for new houses will start to make
: sense and employment will rise. It is the virtuous cycle all over again. It
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t***j
发帖数: 2620 | 17 那怎么办？抢房子去吗？
[发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com]
【在 l******r 的大作中提到】
: 说得还是有道理的。这就是为啥资本主义的经济危机每隔10年左右就要来这么一次。
:
: am
: have
: It
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l******r
发帖数: 4021 | 18
为啥一定要去抢房子？去抢老胡家的金砖其实比较快捷一点。
【在 t***j 的大作中提到】
: 那怎么办？抢房子去吗？
:
: [发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com]
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a*i
发帖数: 377 | 19 国内县城的房嫂都在北京有十几套房，
那些大城市的手早就伸到美国来了吧。
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 两三年前，南加也可以挑三拣四的。忽然就冒出一大堆现金买家，本地的国内的，买房
: 子当网购，只看照片就下offer。不知道多久后会漫延到其他地方。
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a*i
发帖数: 377 | 20 crater barrel, cb2有一些很modern的吊灯，也就几百块钱一个，可以去看看。
【在 p****u 的大作中提到】
: 我准备买那房子几个灯加起来１万块以上，为啥不能折腾拉？
: 当然我之前也一直觉得，破灯把，最多几百块.
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