x*******u 发帖数: 194 | 1 周末晚上空调不工作了,自己打开外面的压缩机风扇但是找不出原因。今天找人来看原
来加热制冷的chamber都已经进了水。现在的系统已经有二十多年了,效率的确不高,
要换新的不知道要多少钱,什么牌子好,有没有退税。。。因为天热所以需要尽快下决
定,所以有经验的同学请不吝赐教。多谢!
有包子,单没发过,会请斑竹代发。 |
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C******e 发帖数: 11790 | |
s****a 发帖数: 9912 | 4 你房子多大,2层3层,估计DUCTWORK也要换,准备2万? |
C******e 发帖数: 11790 | 5 这么贵,不换了。
【在 s****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你房子多大,2层3层,估计DUCTWORK也要换,准备2万?
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x*******u 发帖数: 194 | 6 房子是RAISED RANCH, 大概2千尺。ductwork 估计不用换,但是看看明天别的
estimator 怎么说。
【在 s****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你房子多大,2层3层,估计DUCTWORK也要换,准备2万?
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s****a 发帖数: 9912 | 7 要换就买两个好的,弄彻底,保证15年没问题,穷混弄一下,几年又要换
【在 C******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这么贵,不换了。
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r*****a 发帖数: 27155 | 8 有退税,安装好,保修好,啥牌子都差不多,high eff有rebate和退税
大概需要三千多吧
【在 x*******u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 周末晚上空调不工作了,自己打开外面的压缩机风扇但是找不出原因。今天找人来看原 : 来加热制冷的chamber都已经进了水。现在的系统已经有二十多年了,效率的确不高, : 要换新的不知道要多少钱,什么牌子好,有没有退税。。。因为天热所以需要尽快下决 : 定,所以有经验的同学请不吝赐教。多谢! : 有包子,单没发过,会请斑竹代发。
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s****a 发帖数: 9912 | 9 如果是2万,你补那一万7?
【在 r*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有退税,安装好,保修好,啥牌子都差不多,high eff有rebate和退税 : 大概需要三千多吧
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r*****a 发帖数: 27155 | 10 我家刚换过
你为啥要人家换duct?
【在 s****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果是2万,你补那一万7?
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s****a 发帖数: 9912 | 11 老的不EFFICIENT啊
【在 r*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我家刚换过 : 你为啥要人家换duct?
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i***e 发帖数: 9429 | 12
来了, 还没看完所有贴了。。
【在 C******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : imore,来活了。
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i***e 发帖数: 9429 | 13
如果你不知道目前冷暖气机的型号,可以知道你的地理位置吗
【在 x*******u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 房子是RAISED RANCH, 大概2千尺。ductwork 估计不用换,但是看看明天别的 : estimator 怎么说。
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r*****a 发帖数: 27155 | 14 房子多少年的?
【在 s****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 老的不EFFICIENT啊
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c****o 发帖数: 32446 | |
i***e 发帖数: 9429 | 16 大家为楼主急,楼主一个下午都没来。
俺等不了了,没人请俺dinner,先回家了。 |
x*******u 发帖数: 194 | 17 我们在纽约威郡
现在的gas furnace 是Carrier 58SSB130BC, 1985年的 铭牌 |
x*******u 发帖数: 194 | 18 对不起,家里事多, 两个孩子还要作晚饭,才下地.
刚刚下去抄gas furnace 的信息,才发现attached humidifier 在漏水,这应该是罪魁
了.
请继续帮忙!
【在 i***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 大家为楼主急,楼主一个下午都没来。 : 俺等不了了,没人请俺dinner,先回家了。
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x*******u 发帖数: 194 | 19 67年的房子
【在 r*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 房子多少年的?
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r*****a 发帖数: 27155 | 20 那还真不知道,不负责地猜测应该不用重做ductwork
还是等estimate最靠谱
【在 x*******u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 67年的房子
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x*******u 发帖数: 194 | 21 Just got a quote from one of the vendor. Can anyone help to check and advise
if that is reasonable? Or need improvement. Thanks!
INSTALL NEW GAS FURNACE 80% 140BTU TRANE
NEW 4 TON AC COIL R410A TRANE
NEW 4 TON CONDENSER R410A 13 SEER TRANE
MATERIAL- ALL GAS PIPE AND FITTINGS, CONDENSATE DRAIN LINE
ALL COPPER FITTINGS AND PIPE, FLUE PIPE MATERIAL, MODIFICATION
OF DUCT WORK, NITROGEN TEST ON FREON LINES, VACUUM OF
Description
ESTIMATE: REPLACE EXISTING FURNACE AND AC SYSTEM
REMOVAL OF EXISTING FURNACE, AC COIL, AND 4 TON
CONDENSER
10 YEAR WARRANTY ON PARTS AND EQUIPMENT |
s****a 发帖数: 9912 | 22 看来没有要全换DUCTWORK,其它的基本全换掉了,没说多少钱啊 |
x*******u 发帖数: 194 | 23 sorry, last line forgot to be attached
ALL EQUIPMENT,MATERIAL,LABOR $5900.00 CASH
Tax will be added if pay by creditcard, |
y********o 发帖数: 1588 | 24
pay cash 可以少tax?
这样说让我感觉10 YEAR WARRANTY ON PARTS AND EQUIPMENT最后只是放屁
【在 x*******u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : sorry, last line forgot to be attached : ALL EQUIPMENT,MATERIAL,LABOR $5900.00 CASH : Tax will be added if pay by creditcard,
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i***e 发帖数: 9429 | 25
这价位具体还得看型号。
你需要要付支票或信用卡,避免现金交易。
10年零件保证现在都是标准的了。没看到人工保证。
【在 x*******u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : sorry, last line forgot to be attached : ALL EQUIPMENT,MATERIAL,LABOR $5900.00 CASH : Tax will be added if pay by creditcard,
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x*******u 发帖数: 194 | 26 Thanks, just came back from long weekend travel...
Is this 80% a out-dated level? If I ask changing to 95%, can the estimate
see dramatic change, or how much you experts would suggest?
I've asked couple other vendors to quote before the travel, and still
waiting for their formal quotes. Will post them out for discussion. |
s****a 发帖数: 9912 | 27 价钱看着还行,再找几家股股价吧,如果DUCTWORK不EFFICIENT的
换掉算了,大头都花了,结果不省电,挺亏的 |
g********3 发帖数: 1281 | 28 Check home depot. The lowest quote I got was from home depot, trane is the
brand they use, and HD will stand behind its warranty. |
s****a 发帖数: 9912 | 29 COSTCO也有的,好像比HD还便宜的
【在 g********3 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Check home depot. The lowest quote I got was from home depot, trane is the : brand they use, and HD will stand behind its warranty.
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n****g 发帖数: 1245 | 30 一定要HIGH EFFICIENT的FURNACE才能带动HE的冷气,另外联邦退税要求HE的冷气不低
于15SHEER还是多少,自己去查查去。不是随便的就能退税的,有功率要求的。我买的
是CARRIER的,退税前总共花了6千刀。退了1500刀的税.以下是CONTRACTOR的报价
Proposed HVAC is as follows. We shall furnish all labor and material to
install the following:
PERFORMANCE SERIES – 95% FURNACE:
-Carrier Model# 58UVB120 120,000 BTU Two Stage, Variable Speed 95% High
Efficiency Furnace.
Warranty:
10 Year Labor
10 Year Parts *Qualifies For
Tax Credit*
Life Time on Heat Exchanger
COMFORT SERIES – AIR CONDITIONER:
-Carrier Model# 24ACB660 5 Ton 16 SEER Two-Speed Puron High Efficiency Air
Conditioner.
Warranty:
10 Year Labor
10 Year Parts *Qualifies For
Tax Credit*
10 Year Compressor Warranty
Total Cash/Check Price:
$6,000.00 |
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x*******u 发帖数: 194 | 31 Please help take a look at this one and advise. We are in Westchester, NY
area. Also wonder if the hot weather could play some role to impact their
quote. Thanks!
$7500.00
We propose to furnish and install the following:
1. One (1) 100K BTU Luxaire model # TG9S120C16MP11 95.5% high
efficiency condensing multi-position, multi-speed gas fired furnace equipped
with fully insulated steel cabinet.
2. One (1) Honeywell 120K BTU gas valve.
3. One (1) Honeywell fan & limit control.
4. One (1) hot surface pilot ignitor.
5. One (1) variable speed fan motor and control.
6. One (1) electronic fan center.
7. One (1) safety flame spill and safety flame roll out switch.
8. One (1) power assist chimney vent with safety vacuum switch.
9. One (1) 4 ton 14.5 SEER Luxaire model #MC60D3XH1 R410A multi position
air conditioning evaporator coil.
10. One (1) TXV expansion valve, model # 1TVM4F1 to be installed on coil.
11. One (1) 4 ton 14.5 SEER Luxaire model #TCJF48S41S3 R410A condensing
unit to be mounted on an anti-vibration pad.
12. All necessary supply & return tin to be installed to connect new
furnace to existing ductwork.
13. Removal of old equipment and all debris from premises.
14. System to be charged with refrigerant, started & tested.
Warranties/Specifications:
1-year parts & labor guaranteed by CNS Heating & Cooling.
Manufacturers limited warranty on furnaces as follows:
• Heat exchanger – Limited Lifetime; Covered Components – 10
years
Manufacturers 10 year limited warranty on coil.
Manufacturers limited warranty on condenser as follows:
• Compressor – 10 years; Parts – 10 years
(In order to qualify for extended warranty all systems MUST be registered
online by homeowner via upgproductregistration.com within 90 days from date
of installation or warranty reverts to 5 years on coil, compressor & all
parts |
g*q 发帖数: 26623 | 32 home depot特别慢.不过不着急也无所谓.
【在 g********3 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Check home depot. The lowest quote I got was from home depot, trane is the : brand they use, and HD will stand behind its warranty.
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s*******i 发帖数: 163 | 33 你这个价格包括duct work吗?另外是在哪里quote到的?
还有你那个AC 如果是carrier comfort 系列的话,没有two stage的呀。two stages起
码是performance series。
【在 n****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 一定要HIGH EFFICIENT的FURNACE才能带动HE的冷气,另外联邦退税要求HE的冷气不低 : 于15SHEER还是多少,自己去查查去。不是随便的就能退税的,有功率要求的。我买的 : 是CARRIER的,退税前总共花了6千刀。退了1500刀的税.以下是CONTRACTOR的报价 : Proposed HVAC is as follows. We shall furnish all labor and material to : install the following: : PERFORMANCE SERIES – 95% FURNACE: : -Carrier Model# 58UVB120 120,000 BTU Two Stage, Variable Speed 95% High : Efficiency Furnace. : Warranty: : 10 Year Labor
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s*******i 发帖数: 163 | 34 如果3500尺的房子换ductwork要多少钱啊?
【在 s****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 价钱看着还行,再找几家股股价吧,如果DUCTWORK不EFFICIENT的 : 换掉算了,大头都花了,结果不省电,挺亏的
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g*q 发帖数: 26623 | 35 4吨空调+140 furnace $5900好像不贵啊,虽然SEER13稍微差了点 |
p*****p 发帖数: 19331 | 36 人民需要你
【在 i***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : 这价位具体还得看型号。 : 你需要要付支票或信用卡,避免现金交易。 : 10年零件保证现在都是标准的了。没看到人工保证。
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i***e 发帖数: 9429 | 37 Furnace
100K BTU Luxaire model # TG9S120C16MP11 95.5% high efficiency condensing
multi-position, multi-speed gas fired furnace
Coil
4 ton 14.5 SEER Luxaire model #MC60D3XH1 R410A multi position air
conditioning evaporator coil.
A/C
4 ton 14.5 SEER Luxaire model #TCJF48S41S3 R410A condensing unit。
帮你看了,Furnace 不是 variable speed furnace, 系统效率达不到16 或15 SEER,
你可能只能拿到煤气公司的200多刀rebate, 拿不到电力公司的600多刀的rebate.
Furnace 如果是100k Btu, 型号应该是TG9S100C16MP11 --- 21“ wide Furnace.
同样的价位,可以去估一下其它品牌的。 |
x*******u 发帖数: 194 | 38 Many thanks!Will have Baozi delivered later.
Had another one with one additional humidifier. Please also advise. We will
make decision before this weekend and start installation by Monday.
ESTIMATE: REPLACE EXISTING FURNACE AND AC SYSTEM
REMOVAL OF EXISTING FURNACE, AC COIL, AND 4 TON
CONDENSER
INSTALL NEW GAS FURNACE HIGH EFFICIENT
NEW 4 TON AC COIL R410A
NEW 4 TON CONDENSER R410A
TRANE XR 95 FURNACE 120 BTU/ MODEL#- tuh1d120a9601a
TRANE 16 SEER 4 TON CONDENSER -m#- 4ttr5049e10000a
AC COIL 4 TON R410A
APRILAIRE HUMIDIFIER WITH HUMIDISTAT 6" ROUND DUCT LOW
LOW VOLTAGE WIRING
ALL MATERIAL NEEDED INCLUDING GAS LINE FITTINGS,
COPPER FITTINGS AND PIPE, FABRICATION OF PLENUM, PVC
FITTINGS, 3" PVC PIPE FOR FLUE PIPE , LOW VOLTAGE AND HIGH
VOLTAGE WIRING , MISC MATERIAL
TOTAL PRICE- $8220.00
DEPOSIT OF $4300.00 GIVEN BEFORE START OF JOB
UPON COMPLETION $3920 IS DUE IN FULL
1 0 YEAR WARRANTY ON PARTS AND EQUIPMENT |
x*******u 发帖数: 194 | 39 Many thanks!Will have Baozi delivered later.
Had another one with one additional humidifier. Please also advise. We will
make decision before this weekend and start installation by Monday.
ESTIMATE: REPLACE EXISTING FURNACE AND AC SYSTEM
REMOVAL OF EXISTING FURNACE, AC COIL, AND 4 TON
CONDENSER
INSTALL NEW GAS FURNACE HIGH EFFICIENT
NEW 4 TON AC COIL R410A
NEW 4 TON CONDENSER R410A
TRANE XR 95 FURNACE 120 BTU/ MODEL#- tuh1d120a9601a
TRANE 16 SEER 4 TON CONDENSER -m#- 4ttr5049e10000a
AC COIL 4 TON R410A
APRILAIRE HUMIDIFIER WITH HUMIDISTAT 6" ROUND DUCT LOW
LOW VOLTAGE WIRING
ALL MATERIAL NEEDED INCLUDING GAS LINE FITTINGS,
COPPER FITTINGS AND PIPE, FABRICATION OF PLENUM, PVC
FITTINGS, 3" PVC PIPE FOR FLUE PIPE , LOW VOLTAGE AND HIGH
VOLTAGE WIRING , MISC MATERIAL
TOTAL PRICE- $8220.00
DEPOSIT OF $4300.00 GIVEN BEFORE START OF JOB
UPON COMPLETION $3920 IS DUE IN FULL
1 0 YEAR WARRANTY ON PARTS AND EQUIPMENT |
i***e 发帖数: 9429 | 40 如果装9601a 系列,没用的,达不到效率的。
按照这个去估价
fuenace: TUH2D120A9V5 / 95% AFUE, 2 stage variable speed furnace.
Coil: 4TXCD061BC3 / 5Ton cased coil.
A/C: 4TTR5049E1 / 15SEER A/C
Thermostat: TCONT602 or TCONT802 or TCONT803
系统效率值 SEER 15.5 有rebate
fuenace: TUH2D120A9V5 / 95% AFUE, 2 stage variable speed furnace.
Coil: 4TXCD063BC3 / 5Ton cased coil.
A/C: 4TTR5049E1 / 15SEER A/C
Thermostat: TCONT602 or TCONT802 or TCONT803
系统效率值 SEER 16 有rebate
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l*****g 发帖数: 654 | 41 我感觉home depot的contractor 比较贵。我们刚换的,是从trane的网站上找当地的
dealer,然后filter出bbb A+的,再综合yelp的review,最后确定几家过来estimate,综
合选择了一家最便宜的
中间也曾要homedepot的contracotr给价,比上面找的要贵几百块。
【在 g********3 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Check home depot. The lowest quote I got was from home depot, trane is the : brand they use, and HD will stand behind its warranty.
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s******d 发帖数: 9806 | 42 能问一下如何退1500的税吗?好像AC有300的退税,Furnace有150的退税,还有什么其
他退税吗?
【在 n****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 一定要HIGH EFFICIENT的FURNACE才能带动HE的冷气,另外联邦退税要求HE的冷气不低 : 于15SHEER还是多少,自己去查查去。不是随便的就能退税的,有功率要求的。我买的 : 是CARRIER的,退税前总共花了6千刀。退了1500刀的税.以下是CONTRACTOR的报价 : Proposed HVAC is as follows. We shall furnish all labor and material to : install the following: : PERFORMANCE SERIES – 95% FURNACE: : -Carrier Model# 58UVB120 120,000 BTU Two Stage, Variable Speed 95% High : Efficiency Furnace. : Warranty: : 10 Year Labor
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M*********s 发帖数: 1086 | 43 年底报税时,如果用软件, 会专有一项, 输进就行。留好收据, 以备万一被audit.
我们三年前拿的, 很容易。但这是一辈子只给1500的credit, 你以后再换energy
saving的窗户啥的,就不能用了。
【在 s******d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 能问一下如何退1500的税吗?好像AC有300的退税,Furnace有150的退税,还有什么其 : 他退税吗?
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s******d 发帖数: 9806 | 44 看了一下,是09年和10年的政策。30% reabte,$1500 max
这个现在已经没有了,只有AC $300,Furnace $150。
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【在 M*********s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 年底报税时,如果用软件, 会专有一项, 输进就行。留好收据, 以备万一被audit. : 我们三年前拿的, 很容易。但这是一辈子只给1500的credit, 你以后再换energy : saving的窗户啥的,就不能用了。
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x*******u 发帖数: 194 | 45 Just followed your instruction and asked for more quote.
Is the reason that 9601a won't work is because it is not variable speed type
?
【在 i***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果装9601a 系列,没用的,达不到效率的。 : 按照这个去估价 : fuenace: TUH2D120A9V5 / 95% AFUE, 2 stage variable speed furnace. : Coil: 4TXCD061BC3 / 5Ton cased coil. : A/C: 4TTR5049E1 / 15SEER A/C : Thermostat: TCONT602 or TCONT802 or TCONT803 : 系统效率值 SEER 15.5 有rebate : fuenace: TUH2D120A9V5 / 95% AFUE, 2 stage variable speed furnace. : Coil: 4TXCD063BC3 / 5Ton cased coil. : A/C: 4TTR5049E1 / 15SEER A/C
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x*******u 发帖数: 194 | 46 The price that one vendor quoted is 8800USD total... Will have to find some
more to compare.
【在 i***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果装9601a 系列,没用的,达不到效率的。 : 按照这个去估价 : fuenace: TUH2D120A9V5 / 95% AFUE, 2 stage variable speed furnace. : Coil: 4TXCD061BC3 / 5Ton cased coil. : A/C: 4TTR5049E1 / 15SEER A/C : Thermostat: TCONT602 or TCONT802 or TCONT803 : 系统效率值 SEER 15.5 有rebate : fuenace: TUH2D120A9V5 / 95% AFUE, 2 stage variable speed furnace. : Coil: 4TXCD063BC3 / 5Ton cased coil. : A/C: 4TTR5049E1 / 15SEER A/C
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i***e 发帖数: 9429 | 47
some
不一定非要variable speed type, ECM blower furnace 运气好的话亦可带动效率。
你现在可以去估single stage (non variable speed type) furnace 了 if you want
to.
furnace: UH1D120A9H5 / 95% AFUE, single stage ECM furnace.
Coil: 4TXCD061BC3 / 5Ton cased coil.
A/C: 4TTR5049E1 / 15SEER A/C
Thermostat: TCONT600 or TCONT801 or or TCONT803
系统效率值 SEER 15 电力公司可能有rebate。无联邦tax credit.
furnace: UH1D120A9H5 / 95% AFUE, single stage, ECM furnace.
Coil: 4TXCD063BC3 / 5Ton cased coil.
A/C: 4TTR5049E1 / 15SEER A/C
Thermostat: TCONT600 or TCONT801 or TCONT803
系统效率值 SEER 15.75 电力公司可能有rebate。无联邦tax credit.
另找3家估。Good Luck!
【在 x*******u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The price that one vendor quoted is 8800USD total... Will have to find some : more to compare.
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x****3 发帖数: 19 | 48 Hi,
Could you share the contact information of the contractor you use? |