v****e
发帖数: 19471 | |
m*****g
发帖数: 1717 | 2 以前的电影一秒只有24帧。现在怎么人眼睛的能力一下子增加了9倍？我觉得240的
完全没有必要，完全是为了多赚一点钱搞的噱头。 |
T******e
发帖数: 18290 | |
v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 4 多谢。看来没啥区别。没啥好BSO的，本人从不看电视，家里的电视是06年的DLP了，仍
然不准备换。现在问也是想给父母买个大的。
【在 T******e 的大作中提到】
: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6792632-1.html
: 不过我估计本帖要点是BSO
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s*****8
发帖数: 1891 | 5 看電影還是有差別的，特別看動態畫面的時候
如果玩遊戲，差別就更大了 |
L**********s
发帖数: 12988 | 6 老人家是在这里的么？有个朋友店里sony在大减价
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 多谢。看来没啥区别。没啥好BSO的，本人从不看电视，家里的电视是06年的DLP了，仍
: 然不准备换。现在问也是想给父母买个大的。
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t****e
发帖数: 1268 | 7 我也正想弄个55的看看，还是240的吧，加上3D ready，至少保证3-5年不会淘汰。不过
想等到年底，据说LCD价格会有大幅下降。 |
v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 8 在北京。
【在 L**********s 的大作中提到】
: 老人家是在这里的么？有个朋友店里sony在大减价
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L**********s
发帖数: 12988 | 9 可惜了，那个deal真的很好。国内卖就贵很多
孝子啊
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 在北京。
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i****a
发帖数: 36252 | 10 size doesn't matter, regarding Hz
I don't even like 120Hz. it makes everything look like home video.
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 120的不行吧？
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i****a
发帖数: 36252 | 11 yes, it can be very noticeable when watching movies. and that's what I
don't like, the de-judder effect/feature when watching movies.
as for games, I played MGS4 on both kind of TVs and don't notice any
difference. maybe racing game will have more appearant difference?
【在 s*****8 的大作中提到】
: 看電影還是有差別的，特別看動態畫面的時候
: 如果玩遊戲，差別就更大了
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y****u
发帖数: 222 | 12 55跟52应该差不多吧。我有俩52的一个120一个240.发誓完全看不出差别-
不论看电影，还是玩ps3.后悔买240的。
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 120的不行吧？
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 13 你们的意思是说，看电影的话，120赫兹的会比240的感觉更像电影？或者说，240赫兹的
看起来过于sharp, 像电视里转播的体育节目？
【在 i****a 的大作中提到】
: yes, it can be very noticeable when watching movies. and that's what I
: don't like, the de-judder effect/feature when watching movies.
: as for games, I played MGS4 on both kind of TVs and don't notice any
: difference. maybe racing game will have more appearant difference?
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z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 14 现在的电视都有movie mode吧，看电影的时候调到movie mode就好了呗
兹的
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 你们的意思是说，看电影的话，120赫兹的会比240的感觉更像电影？或者说，240赫兹的
: 看起来过于sharp, 像电视里转播的体育节目？
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 15 什么牌子？
【在 y****u 的大作中提到】
: 55跟52应该差不多吧。我有俩52的一个120一个240.发誓完全看不出差别-
: 不论看电影，还是玩ps3.后悔买240的。
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 16 。。。压根儿没听说过这个
【在 z*********n 的大作中提到】
: 现在的电视都有movie mode吧，看电影的时候调到movie mode就好了呗
:
: 兹的
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z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 17 我的电视就有
还挺自动的，我每次看blu ray的时候还要调，发现自动就成了movie mode了
颜色偏绿，胶片感，然后可能是24桢速度
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 。。。压根儿没听说过这个
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T******e
发帖数: 18290 | 18 一般movie mode是调整色彩和一些图像处理的设置的，能调刷新频率意味着要内置两种
刷新频率，这个还真难说可以调
【在 z*********n 的大作中提到】
: 现在的电视都有movie mode吧，看电影的时候调到movie mode就好了呗
:
: 兹的
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h****a
发帖数: 637 | |
l*********s
发帖数: 2261 | 20 记得从前把计算机monitor从60Hz调升到75Hz差异还是很明显的。这120Hz和240Hz的差
异人眼能不
能感觉出来就不知道了。
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 120的不行吧？
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z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 21 发烧友号称能
我一个同事号称能看出来“true color“，挺他说现在市场上的lcd颜色大部分都不是
true color
那种能达到true的都暴贵
【在 l*********s 的大作中提到】
: 记得从前把计算机monitor从60Hz调升到75Hz差异还是很明显的。这120Hz和240Hz的差
: 异人眼能不
: 能感觉出来就不知道了。
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T******T
发帖数: 3066 | 22 I compared the 120Hz and 240Hz Samsung models and saw very little difference
in movie modes and gaming. However, the de-juddering effect is very
noticeable going up from 60Hz -> 120Hz, 240Hz is just an overkill in my
opinion at least for the next couple of years.
【在 i****a 的大作中提到】
: yes, it can be very noticeable when watching movies. and that's what I
: don't like, the de-judder effect/feature when watching movies.
: as for games, I played MGS4 on both kind of TVs and don't notice any
: difference. maybe racing game will have more appearant difference?
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z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 23 你来了
我换了音响线，注意到了巨大的差异，嘿嘿
绝对值得
difference
【在 T******T 的大作中提到】
: I compared the 120Hz and 240Hz Samsung models and saw very little difference
: in movie modes and gaming. However, the de-juddering effect is very
: noticeable going up from 60Hz -> 120Hz, 240Hz is just an overkill in my
: opinion at least for the next couple of years.
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N**D
发帖数: 10322 | 24 现在标配是LED, 240Hz, 3D
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 120的不行吧？
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 25 好，就听大麻烦的了。
difference
【在 T******T 的大作中提到】
: I compared the 120Hz and 240Hz Samsung models and saw very little difference
: in movie modes and gaming. However, the de-juddering effect is very
: noticeable going up from 60Hz -> 120Hz, 240Hz is just an overkill in my
: opinion at least for the next couple of years.
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N**D
发帖数: 10322 | 26 LG, 还是sharp, 有个4-color 的， RGB+另外一个
【在 z*********n 的大作中提到】
: 发烧友号称能
: 我一个同事号称能看出来“true color“，挺他说现在市场上的lcd颜色大部分都不是
: true color
: 那种能达到true的都暴贵
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N**D
发帖数: 10322 | 27 偶当初买个1080P, 的Aquos, 就觉的起码可以看个8-9年不过时，现在都3D了
difference
【在 T******T 的大作中提到】
: I compared the 120Hz and 240Hz Samsung models and saw very little difference
: in movie modes and gaming. However, the de-juddering effect is very
: noticeable going up from 60Hz -> 120Hz, 240Hz is just an overkill in my
: opinion at least for the next couple of years.
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 28 我家穷，买不起标配
【在 N**D 的大作中提到】
: 现在标配是LED, 240Hz, 3D
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x*********i
发帖数: 2755 | 29
difference
同意 其實眼睛根本分不出了。。。
【在 T******T 的大作中提到】
: I compared the 120Hz and 240Hz Samsung models and saw very little difference
: in movie modes and gaming. However, the de-juddering effect is very
: noticeable going up from 60Hz -> 120Hz, 240Hz is just an overkill in my
: opinion at least for the next couple of years.
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z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 30 商家不可能让你8－9年不过时的
总能想出新东西的
【在 N**D 的大作中提到】
: 偶当初买个1080P, 的Aquos, 就觉的起码可以看个8-9年不过时，现在都3D了
:
: difference
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y****u
发帖数: 222 | 31 sony
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 什么牌子？
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m*****t
发帖数: 4923 | 32 sunsumg 63 plasma is awesome u havent consider that one?? |
v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 33 plasma is out.
【在 m*****t 的大作中提到】
: sunsumg 63 plasma is awesome u havent consider that one??
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N**D
发帖数: 10322 | 34 能考虑52寸的，没有穷人
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 我家穷，买不起标配
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N**D
发帖数: 10322 | 35 plasma 太重
【在 m*****t 的大作中提到】
: sunsumg 63 plasma is awesome u havent consider that one??
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 36 55寸120赫兹和55寸240赫兹3D至少差一倍
【在 N**D 的大作中提到】
: 能考虑52寸的，没有穷人
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N**D
发帖数: 10322 | 37 保时捷和ausxx marting 也差一倍
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 55寸120赫兹和55寸240赫兹3D至少差一倍
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 38 所以你的标配是Aston Martin, Mr. Bond?
【在 N**D 的大作中提到】
: 保时捷和ausxx marting 也差一倍
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N**D
发帖数: 10322 | 39 这个逻辑是咋来的
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 所以你的标配是Aston Martin, Mr. Bond?
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M*****t
发帖数: 26706 | 40 120足够了。
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 120的不行吧？
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T******T
发帖数: 3066 | 41 cool, glad you took my suggestion :)
It would make the most difference in your sub woofer though.
At least for me, it was a night and day difference.
【在 z*********n 的大作中提到】
: 你来了
: 我换了音响线，注意到了巨大的差异，嘿嘿
: 绝对值得
:
: difference
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T******T
发帖数: 3066 | 42 Yeah, I know, but 3D panel technology is still maturing, current TVs from
different vendors are using different types of process. I see no need to be
the Guinea pig here. Even LED backlight still have its own kinks, I would
only go with a new tech after 1-2 years and leave the forefront pioneering
work for the more adventurous hearted .
【在 N**D 的大作中提到】
: 偶当初买个1080P, 的Aquos, 就觉的起码可以看个8-9年不过时，现在都3D了
:
: difference
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T******T
发帖数: 3066 | 43 actually plasma manufacturers has fixed or at least alleviated some of it's
older generation kinks, such as the infamous burn in artifact issue and
excessive power consumption. So you may want to give that another look,
cause when it comes to picture quality and contrast, LCD has yet to surpass
it's top plasma siblings.
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: plasma is out.
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 44 你丫太专业了，英语又这么好，搞得我很惭愧。明天就上百思买找个店员练英语去。。。
s
surpass
【在 T******T 的大作中提到】
: actually plasma manufacturers has fixed or at least alleviated some of it's
: older generation kinks, such as the infamous burn in artifact issue and
: excessive power consumption. So you may want to give that another look,
: cause when it comes to picture quality and contrast, LCD has yet to surpass
: it's top plasma siblings.
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T******T
发帖数: 3066 | 45 lol, naa, I just did a whole bunch of research on the panel technologies 1st
half of this year before buying my 120HZ LCD, plus the 3+ hours spent at
Fry's comparing picture qualities. Just passing on my observations.
。。
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 你丫太专业了，英语又这么好，搞得我很惭愧。明天就上百思买找个店员练英语去。。。
:
: s
: surpass
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i****a
发帖数: 36252 | 46 actually 240hz is the same as 120hz. 120hz looks very different than 60hz.
watching movies on 60hz without
the de-jaddgerring is what you would experience in movie theater
120hz/240hz with de-jaddegerring option turned on makes everything look like
home made video
兹的
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 你们的意思是说，看电影的话，120赫兹的会比240的感觉更像电影？或者说，240赫兹的
: 看起来过于sharp, 像电视里转播的体育节目？
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i****a
发帖数: 36252 | 47 that's for CRT. the screen actually refreshes at the specified Hz
there is no refresh issue with LCD, image is static. the Hz refresh rate on
LCD means how many different
pictures it can show in a second
【在 l*********s 的大作中提到】
: 记得从前把计算机monitor从60Hz调升到75Hz差异还是很明显的。这120Hz和240Hz的差
: 异人眼能不
: 能感觉出来就不知道了。
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T******T
发帖数: 3066 | 48 I would beg to differ on that, I very much enjoyed the extra clarity gained
on most of the HD programming. There were only a few movies (The time
traveler for one) where the de-juddering effects gave it a bit too much of a
HD camera look. I had to manually tune down the de-judder effects to medium
from the auto-movie mode settings. Vankie watches a lot of sports and
would definitely enjoy the extra frames.
like
【在 i****a 的大作中提到】
: actually 240hz is the same as 120hz. 120hz looks very different than 60hz.
: watching movies on 60hz without
: the de-jaddgerring is what you would experience in movie theater
: 120hz/240hz with de-jaddegerring option turned on makes everything look like
: home made video
:
: 兹的
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i****a
发帖数: 36252 | 49 10-bit panel vs 8-bit panel?
I looked at some side by side and I *thought* I saw some difference... not
even sure, haa
【在 z*********n 的大作中提到】
: 发烧友号称能
: 我一个同事号称能看出来“true color“，挺他说现在市场上的lcd颜色大部分都不是
: true color
: 那种能达到true的都暴贵
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i****a
发帖数: 36252 | 50 yeah, that's what I meant, 60 vs 120/240
difference
【在 T******T 的大作中提到】
: I compared the 120Hz and 240Hz Samsung models and saw very little difference
: in movie modes and gaming. However, the de-juddering effect is very
: noticeable going up from 60Hz -> 120Hz, 240Hz is just an overkill in my
: opinion at least for the next couple of years.
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i****a
发帖数: 36252 | 51 I've had my TV for 3 years already. I am going to skip the current 3D
technology. So the only reason I buy
another TV in recent future is to get a 2nd TV or upgrade in size
【在 z*********n 的大作中提到】
: 商家不可能让你8－9年不过时的
: 总能想出新东西的
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T******T
发帖数: 3066 | 52 you've gotta compare some static, high res, full color ranged images for it
to be remotely discernable.
【在 i****a 的大作中提到】
: 10-bit panel vs 8-bit panel?
: I looked at some side by side and I *thought* I saw some difference... not
: even sure, haa
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i****a
发帖数: 36252 | 53 agree on that. sports is where 120hz with de-judder shine; definitely make
the action life like
gained
a
medium
【在 T******T 的大作中提到】
: I would beg to differ on that, I very much enjoyed the extra clarity gained
: on most of the HD programming. There were only a few movies (The time
: traveler for one) where the de-juddering effects gave it a bit too much of a
: HD camera look. I had to manually tune down the de-judder effects to medium
: from the auto-movie mode settings. Vankie watches a lot of sports and
: would definitely enjoy the extra frames.
:
: like
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l*******h
发帖数: 156 | 54 Yours is LCD or LED?
difference
【在 T******T 的大作中提到】
: I compared the 120Hz and 240Hz Samsung models and saw very little difference
: in movie modes and gaming. However, the de-juddering effect is very
: noticeable going up from 60Hz -> 120Hz, 240Hz is just an overkill in my
: opinion at least for the next couple of years.
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i****a
发帖数: 36252 | 55 LED is a type of back lit technology. the display is still LCD
the traditional LCD is fluorescent lit
【在 l*******h 的大作中提到】
: Yours is LCD or LED?
:
: difference
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T******T
发帖数: 3066 | 56 LCD, I didn't really want to spend an extra $200 just for backlight
upgrade..Will upgrade my bedroom TV when OLED TV becomes affordable.
【在 l*******h 的大作中提到】
: Yours is LCD or LED?
:
: difference
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x*********i
发帖数: 2755 | |
l*******h
发帖数: 156 | 58 Thanks a lot.
I am thinking of 55 inches Flat TV. Any big difference between LCD and LED?
Are both 46inches and 55inches good?
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=2330771
【在 T******T 的大作中提到】
: LCD, I didn't really want to spend an extra $200 just for backlight
: upgrade..Will upgrade my bedroom TV when OLED TV becomes affordable.
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G**U
发帖数: 5492 | 59 LCD LED 都有鬼影,plasma is lot better if power consumption is not issuer for
u
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 120的不行吧？
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T******T
发帖数: 3066 | 60 Difference would be in the higher contrast ratio, darker black level, lower
power consumption and a much thinner, lighter form factor.
Definitely go big if the price delta isn't significant.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036WT3TS/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?
pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-
1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B001WHICF0&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=
0D1F6AVVDSN242Z
YG87G
or
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036WT3TS/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?
pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-
1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B001WHICF0&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=
0D1F6AVVDSN242Z
YG87G
【在 l*******h 的大作中提到】
: Thanks a lot.
: I am thinking of 55 inches Flat TV. Any big difference between LCD and LED?
: Are both 46inches and 55inches good?
: http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=2330771
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