rh 发帖数: 3901 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Automobile 讨论区 】
发信人: roddyfly (roddyfly), 信区: Automobile
标 题: 加州电子摄像头被正式取消了 太tmd好了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jul 28 01:46:39 2011, 美东)
有的黄灯时间确实很短,上个月刚拿了个加起来600多刀的左拐红灯罚单,以后不再担
心了。 庆祝啊。
Los Angeles, California Red Light Camera Program Officially Canceled
Los Angeles, California Red Light Camera Program Officially Canceled
City council votes to take down red light cameras in Los Angeles, California.
Councilman Dennis ZineRed light cameras are coming down in Los Angeles,
California after midnight on Sunday. The city council yesterday voted
unanimously to drop the program primarily over the county court system's
refusal to enforce unpaid tickets, depriving the city of millions in
expected revenue. The council instructed the city attorney to work with
American Traffic Solutions (ATS) to decide the cheapest way to remove the
systems and process all tickets issued through the end of the month.
"We need to be clear about what we are doing here today with this particular
vote," Councilman Dennis P. Zine said. "I don't want to give the wrong
perception to the public that this program may continue in the future. As I
noted, photo red light will be gone in four days. Cameras need to come down
immediately to not create a smokescreen to affect the hope that we may turn
them back on."
Last month, the police commission recommended against renewing the automated
ticketing contract. Council members split evenly on the issue, and the
council's camera supporters had needed at least a majority to overturn the
commission's decision.
"We need to be honest and transparent with this," Zine said. "This program
did not work as anticipated."
Motorists who receive a $476 ticket in the mail from ATS within the next few
days do not need to pay it. Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) officials
testifying before the council confirmed that failure to respond to a
citation has no affect on credit or driving records. The item will go to the
county collections department which will only send a threatening letter and
then a follow up letter.
"That's about the extent of it," LAPD Lieutenant Ron Katona said.
More vigorous opposition to the program came from council members inspired
by Safer Streets LA Executive Director Jay Beeber and Dr. Rhodes Rigsby,
mayor of the city of Loma Linda, who argued that engineering improvements
were more effective than cameras.
"My main objection to this whole thing is that I believe the same safety can
be achieved by signal timing changes," Councilman Paul Koretz said. "I
believe DOT has been pretty resistant to this concept. In budget committee,
we found that DOT was not planning on immediately implementing the measure
that the council had passed twelve to nothing to change the signal timing on
all the signalized intersections [with cameras], plus the additional ones
that were identified as more dangerous.... DOT claims it complies with the
MUTCD, but the times in the manual are minimums."
Los Angeles adds about 0.3 seconds to the bare minimum yellow timing, but
Loma Linda saw a 92 percent reduction in violations upon adding a full
second to the yellow. The pricey photo tickets have been extremely unpopular
throughout Los Angeles. Last month, the Northridge East Neighborhood
Council voted unanimously to tell the city council to drop photo enforcement
. The Sherman Oaks and Valley Alliance neighborhood groups also formally
opposed ticketing.
"No longer will motorists in the nation's second largest city be tagged with
$450 photo tickets for driving maneuvers like rolling right turns that have
essentially no bearing on traffic safety statistics," National Motorists
Association spokesman Gary Biller said. |
z*********n 发帖数: 94654 | 2 咋看的,是LA CITY
California.
【在 rh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 【 以下文字转载自 Automobile 讨论区 】 : 发信人: roddyfly (roddyfly), 信区: Automobile : 标 题: 加州电子摄像头被正式取消了 太tmd好了 : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jul 28 01:46:39 2011, 美东) : 有的黄灯时间确实很短,上个月刚拿了个加起来600多刀的左拐红灯罚单,以后不再担 : 心了。 庆祝啊。 : Los Angeles, California Red Light Camera Program Officially Canceled : Los Angeles, California Red Light Camera Program Officially Canceled : City council votes to take down red light cameras in Los Angeles, California. : Councilman Dennis ZineRed light cameras are coming down in Los Angeles,
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rh 发帖数: 3901 | 3 只有downtown吗?northridge算不算?
【在 z*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 咋看的,是LA CITY : : California.
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G**U 发帖数: 5492 | 4 姑娘还去车版?
California.
【在 rh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 只有downtown吗?northridge算不算?
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z*********n 发帖数: 94654 | 5 northridge属于不属于LA CITY
谁说的只有downtown算LA
【在 rh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 只有downtown吗?northridge算不算?
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 6 rh不是男的么
【在 G**U 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 姑娘还去车版? : : California.
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G**U 发帖数: 5492 | 7 你查过?
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : rh不是男的么
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G**U 发帖数: 5492 | 8 LA county
【在 z*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : northridge属于不属于LA CITY : 谁说的只有downtown算LA
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z*********n 发帖数: 94654 | 9 really?
我没具体看这篇,但是之前一直听说的是la city啊
【在 G**U 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : LA county
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 10 哦,看来你查过了
【在 G**U 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你查过?
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c********a 发帖数: 6466 | 11 Santa Monica算LA county 么?
开车在SM, 我都常常带个帽子
【在 z*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : really? : 我没具体看这篇,但是之前一直听说的是la city啊
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z*********n 发帖数: 94654 | 12 算,但我不认为是county,这篇也说的是city concil投票什么的
【在 c********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Santa Monica算LA county 么? : 开车在SM, 我都常常带个帽子
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Y***r 发帖数: 15270 | 13 这。。。
开车都能SM,太强了
【在 c********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Santa Monica算LA county 么? : 开车在SM, 我都常常带个帽子
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rh 发帖数: 3901 | 14 肯定算在county里面了
戴帽子什么用?
【在 c********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Santa Monica算LA county 么? : 开车在SM, 我都常常带个帽子
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z*********n 发帖数: 94654 | 15 ...
【在 Y***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这。。。 : 开车都能SM,太强了
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G**U 发帖数: 5492 | 16 白姑娘妳专业的,赶紧查查. LOL
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哦,看来你查过了
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c********a 发帖数: 6466 | 17 强中更有强手, 你果然比张老三更强那么一点点
【在 Y***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这。。。 : 开车都能SM,太强了
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Y***r 发帖数: 15270 | 18 这个标题太误导
California.
【在 rh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 【 以下文字转载自 Automobile 讨论区 】 : 发信人: roddyfly (roddyfly), 信区: Automobile : 标 题: 加州电子摄像头被正式取消了 太tmd好了 : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jul 28 01:46:39 2011, 美东) : 有的黄灯时间确实很短,上个月刚拿了个加起来600多刀的左拐红灯罚单,以后不再担 : 心了。 庆祝啊。 : Los Angeles, California Red Light Camera Program Officially Canceled : Los Angeles, California Red Light Camera Program Officially Canceled : City council votes to take down red light cameras in Los Angeles, California. : Councilman Dennis ZineRed light cameras are coming down in Los Angeles,
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c********a 发帖数: 6466 | 19 我以前记得SM是州属市,太多街头相机了
【在 rh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 肯定算在county里面了 : 戴帽子什么用?
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 20 人身攻击
小黑屋1天
下次再犯再加
【在 G**U 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 白姑娘妳专业的,赶紧查查. LOL
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c********a 发帖数: 6466 | 21 lol
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 人身攻击 : 小黑屋1天 : 下次再犯再加
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Y***r 发帖数: 15270 | 22 还我高阻
苏国领袖居然都被你关了,抗议!!!
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 人身攻击 : 小黑屋1天 : 下次再犯再加
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c********a 发帖数: 6466 | 23 马屁没拍好
【在 Y***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 还我高阻 : 苏国领袖居然都被你关了,抗议!!!
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 24 抗议收下了
下去吧
【在 Y***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 还我高阻 : 苏国领袖居然都被你关了,抗议!!!
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z*********n 发帖数: 94654 | 25 santa monica是独立city
地理,是属于LA COUNTY的
美国又没有啥行政规划谁归谁管
不是中国秦朝就开始的郡县制
【在 c********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我以前记得SM是州属市,太多街头相机了
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c********a 发帖数: 6466 | 26 看样子santa monica还是会有。
我以前爬山, 被拍, 但是幸好带了帽子, 看不到脸, 被dismissed掉
街头到处都是偷拍相机
【在 z*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : santa monica是独立city : 地理,是属于LA COUNTY的 : 美国又没有啥行政规划谁归谁管 : 不是中国秦朝就开始的郡县制
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Y***r 发帖数: 15270 | 27 你不闯红灯,也不会偷拍你
【在 c********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 看样子santa monica还是会有。 : 我以前爬山, 被拍, 但是幸好带了帽子, 看不到脸, 被dismissed掉 : 街头到处都是偷拍相机
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c********a 发帖数: 6466 | 28 人那有不会犯错误的,没有镜头就一定不会被拍
在那开车就象在中国开车一样, 累得慌
【在 Y***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你不闯红灯,也不会偷拍你
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y*******g 发帖数: 3677 | 29 lol,mm你太可爱了,那个拍照的也不是根据你的脸找到的你啊,那得多厉害的数据库
啊,人家拍的是车牌,前面后面两张,顺便拍了个脸 ^-^
【在 c********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 看样子santa monica还是会有。 : 我以前爬山, 被拍, 但是幸好带了帽子, 看不到脸, 被dismissed掉 : 街头到处都是偷拍相机
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c********a 发帖数: 6466 | 30 车牌在照片上看得出来啊, 那为什么还是dismissed了?
【在 y*******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : lol,mm你太可爱了,那个拍照的也不是根据你的脸找到的你啊,那得多厉害的数据库 : 啊,人家拍的是车牌,前面后面两张,顺便拍了个脸 ^-^
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y*******g 发帖数: 3677 | 31 人品好呗~~~
【在 c********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 车牌在照片上看得出来啊, 那为什么还是dismissed了?
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c********a 发帖数: 6466 | 32 是吗, 我就写了个没有证据证明是我本人的辩护信, 结果就dismissed了
【在 y*******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 人品好呗~~~
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L***m 发帖数: 4594 | 33 Northridge is under City of LA jurisdiction,partial Santa Monica 90402
belong to City of LA 2.
【在 c********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Santa Monica算LA county 么? : 开车在SM, 我都常常带个帽子
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G**U 发帖数: 5492 | 34 大气一点.
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 人身攻击 : 小黑屋1天 : 下次再犯再加
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G**U 发帖数: 5492 | 35 像电焊工一样?
【在 c********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Santa Monica算LA county 么? : 开车在SM, 我都常常带个帽子
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i****a 发帖数: 36252 | 36 我的紅燈區 GPS POI 可休ya
California.
【在 rh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 肯定算在county里面了 : 戴帽子什么用?
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