L***m 发帖数: 4594 | 1 单位里最近又来了7,8个南加大的毕业生,看着素质还不错,了解下来在高中GPA 都
得要3.9 or 4.0了,这真让我刮目相看,而且据说该校的什么排名直线上升,已经超过
了UCLA。 | c******n 发帖数: 5697 | 2 3.9很牛吗?在一般公立高中很容易拿到,因为美国学生基础太烂
现在没人申请USC这种高学费的私立大学了
UCLA申请人数光今年就涨了18%
【在 L***m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 单位里最近又来了7,8个南加大的毕业生,看着素质还不错,了解下来在高中GPA 都 : 得要3.9 or 4.0了,这真让我刮目相看,而且据说该校的什么排名直线上升,已经超过 : 了UCLA。
| L***m 发帖数: 4594 | 3 大神貌似对米国的教育很有点研究,你是在这边独高中的吗?
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 3.9很牛吗?在一般公立高中很容易拿到,因为美国学生基础太烂 : 现在没人申请USC这种高学费的私立大学了 : UCLA申请人数光今年就涨了18%
| I****e 发帖数: 620 | 4 USC的学生私立高中毕业的比例肯定比UCLA的高。UCLA很多学生才是自“美国学生基础
太烂的公立高中”毕业的。
高中的时候没法支持念私立高中的自然大学也申请公立大学,念私立高中的都喜欢申请
私立大学。念公立高中的人数远比念私立高中的人数多,所以申请公立大学的人数多也
很正常。
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【在 c******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 3.9很牛吗?在一般公立高中很容易拿到,因为美国学生基础太烂 : 现在没人申请USC这种高学费的私立大学了 : UCLA申请人数光今年就涨了18%
| s*******s 发帖数: 9926 | 5 UCLA和USC现在确实竞争很激烈
排名可以看us news的national university就知道了 | r*****s 发帖数: 892 | 6 USC had a better ranking last year and UC system raised tuition 10% every
year for past 3-4 years (the tuition gap is much smaller now). I don't know
where you get your info.
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 3.9很牛吗?在一般公立高中很容易拿到,因为美国学生基础太烂 : 现在没人申请USC这种高学费的私立大学了 : UCLA申请人数光今年就涨了18%
| L***m 发帖数: 4594 | 7 那群小孩也是这种说法,其中一个在两个学校都上过学的对UCLA 极为鄙视,说公立大
学就是个factory, 学校只是丢本书给你自己去念,学生来来往往的就像是流水线,自
己自求多福。
那里边有个女孩为了省钱早毕业,一个学期选了7门课,把眼睛都快读瞎了,她拿到另
外一个很好的哦佛,但因为眼睛的原因没敢去。
know
【在 r*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : USC had a better ranking last year and UC system raised tuition 10% every : year for past 3-4 years (the tuition gap is much smaller now). I don't know : where you get your info.
| L***m 发帖数: 4594 | 8 我邻居老头是南加大的解剖学教授,家门口常年树着两面旗,一面是国旗,一棉当然就
是南加大校旗,去年他兄弟去世他在家开爬梯(奇怪吧,去世是开爬梯的),来了几百
号人,其中大多数看着像南加大的白小本,穿着他们的校涕血,还有就是教职员工,
开着印有特洛伊标志的大车小车皮卡把整个小区塞得满满的。
【在 L***m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 单位里最近又来了7,8个南加大的毕业生,看着素质还不错,了解下来在高中GPA 都 : 得要3.9 or 4.0了,这真让我刮目相看,而且据说该校的什么排名直线上升,已经超过 : 了UCLA。
| b*******3 发帖数: 1461 | 9 do you know funding was one of the ranking factors (legitimately so for
university overall ranking) ? private schools dominate the ranking in US
News. Best public school ranked 20 something if I am not mistaken.
If we leave the funding out of the ranking, there is no way USC out rank
UCLA. And for the tuition gap, I hope you aren't serious. 42000 vs 12000.
SERIOUSLY?
know
【在 r*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : USC had a better ranking last year and UC system raised tuition 10% every : year for past 3-4 years (the tuition gap is much smaller now). I don't know : where you get your info.
| r*****s 发帖数: 892 | 10 Surely I know and money does matter; otherwise, UC would not raise tuition
like crazy while cutting budgets and pays. Check UCLA website, 12000 is
barely half of tuition and UCLA has probably more fees than USC so as to
raise money. We are not in 2003 anymore.
【在 b*******3 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : do you know funding was one of the ranking factors (legitimately so for : university overall ranking) ? private schools dominate the ranking in US : News. Best public school ranked 20 something if I am not mistaken. : If we leave the funding out of the ranking, there is no way USC out rank : UCLA. And for the tuition gap, I hope you aren't serious. 42000 vs 12000. : SERIOUSLY? : : know
| | | b*******3 发帖数: 1461 | 11 this is exactly why I don't like to argue with SC students. Could you please
do some research before you counter?
From ucla site
http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/budget.htm
"University Tuition and Student Service Fees" for THE YEAR $12686
From usc site
http://www.usc.edu/academics/classes/term_20121/tuition_and_fee
Tuition (Semester)
Regular Session 001
Undergraduate Students $21081
Please note that the above number is tuition and tuition for a semester
alone. There are student fees on top of it.
Also please note that I did not include the insurance, book costs, etc since
everybody has to pay for those. If you wanna compare tuition, compare
TUITION
So to sum it all, annually tuition:
UCLA: 12000, and USC 42000
Or you could just visit wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCLA%E2%80%93USC_rivalry
It is not 2003 anymore, but 42000 is still >>>>>>> 12000 and 30000 is still
a big gap
【在 r*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Surely I know and money does matter; otherwise, UC would not raise tuition : like crazy while cutting budgets and pays. Check UCLA website, 12000 is : barely half of tuition and UCLA has probably more fees than USC so as to : raise money. We are not in 2003 anymore.
| z*********n 发帖数: 94654 | 12 30000 is nothing for spoild children :D
please
【在 b*******3 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : this is exactly why I don't like to argue with SC students. Could you please : do some research before you counter? : From ucla site : http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/budget.htm : "University Tuition and Student Service Fees" for THE YEAR $12686 : From usc site : http://www.usc.edu/academics/classes/term_20121/tuition_and_fee : Tuition (Semester) : Regular Session 001 : Undergraduate Students $21081
| b*******3 发帖数: 1461 | 13 We need to fill 2 spots in our team recently. 80% of applicants are SC grads.
Most of them are really really bad. I asked why we aren't getting any ucla
applicants and our HR told me that they weren't actively recruiting in
westwood since ucla grads don't usually apply jobs in my industry anyway....
A team member (sc grad and hard core Trojan fan) had to yell at a few
candidates during the interview since it is getting embarrassing.
【在 z*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 30000 is nothing for spoild children :D : : please
| v****e 发帖数: 19471 | 14 like... hot chicks ratings?
【在 L***m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 单位里最近又来了7,8个南加大的毕业生,看着素质还不错,了解下来在高中GPA 都 : 得要3.9 or 4.0了,这真让我刮目相看,而且据说该校的什么排名直线上升,已经超过 : 了UCLA。
| b*******3 发帖数: 1461 | 15 SC wins that category easily, I had to admit
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : like... hot chicks ratings?
| h*******o 发帖数: 4884 | 16 Nah, UCLA undie run is more fun to watch..
【在 b*******3 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : SC wins that category easily, I had to admit
| v****e 发帖数: 19471 | 17 oh yeah... private school kids have rich dads, rich dads have beautiful
wives...
【在 b*******3 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : SC wins that category easily, I had to admit
| s*******g 发帖数: 1607 | 18 the only ranking I care about
USC is probably better as far as top 20%, but I've met some extremely hot
bruin undergrads and they are cuter than anyone I seen from USC
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : like... hot chicks ratings?
| z*********n 发帖数: 94654 | 19 spoiled children chicks tend to have heavier makeups...
【在 s*******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : the only ranking I care about : USC is probably better as far as top 20%, but I've met some extremely hot : bruin undergrads and they are cuter than anyone I seen from USC
| M*****t 发帖数: 26706 | 20 刚才去看了一下商学院的排名,拷,USC都掉到20多了?曾经和UCLA在11-15之间来着。 | | | v****e 发帖数: 19471 | 21 看来你丫喜欢平易近人的邻家女孩型
【在 s*******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : the only ranking I care about : USC is probably better as far as top 20%, but I've met some extremely hot : bruin undergrads and they are cuter than anyone I seen from USC
| p**r 发帖数: 5853 | 22 确实,最近俺公司来的新妞一个比一个正,
这个是我关心的。
至于什么GPA,工作能力啊,只要不是我部门的,都和我没啥关系。 | r*****s 发帖数: 892 | 23 sorry, remembered the total cost number instead of the official "tuition". I
am not a USC student nor alumni, just had some conversation with a dean
from UC system, who thinks the system is really struggling. For example, UC
is reducing in-state admissions and increasing out-of-state admissions just
to increase revenue despite the fact of tuition raise and fee raise. We
probably will have a better view 5 years later.
please
【在 b*******3 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : this is exactly why I don't like to argue with SC students. Could you please : do some research before you counter? : From ucla site : http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/budget.htm : "University Tuition and Student Service Fees" for THE YEAR $12686 : From usc site : http://www.usc.edu/academics/classes/term_20121/tuition_and_fee : Tuition (Semester) : Regular Session 001 : Undergraduate Students $21081
| w******x 发帖数: 2769 | 24 好酸啊
【在 b*******3 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : do you know funding was one of the ranking factors (legitimately so for : university overall ranking) ? private schools dominate the ranking in US : News. Best public school ranked 20 something if I am not mistaken. : If we leave the funding out of the ranking, there is no way USC out rank : UCLA. And for the tuition gap, I hope you aren't serious. 42000 vs 12000. : SERIOUSLY? : : know
| b*******3 发帖数: 1461 | 25 SMH...
【在 w******x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 好酸啊
| r*c 发帖数: 16750 | 26 你丫喜欢那个型
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 看来你丫喜欢平易近人的邻家女孩型
| v******f 发帖数: 4509 | 27 土豆为啥对usc这么有感情。。。?
着。
【在 M*****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 刚才去看了一下商学院的排名,拷,USC都掉到20多了?曾经和UCLA在11-15之间来着。
| r******s 发帖数: 519 | 28 USC的资源还是很丰富的,强大的学生网尤其是商学院。如果钱不是问题,我投他一票
,虽然我自己是UC的。。。 | D***e 发帖数: 247 | 29 USC在USNews上的排名已经超过UCLA两年了,尽管之前也只落后一名,但超越的主要原
因是peer assessment加上了高中老师的打分。
过去只计入大学主管的投票,由于UCLA深耕学术圈已久,科研成果卓越,所以优势明显。
可是高中的老师更接近年轻学生,跟风快,打分能更迅速反应大学的变化,而且USC面
向全国招生,可能在地域上也占优势。
另一方面,这也反应出提高科研水平需要更长时间的努力。不过就本科教学而言USC应
该不低于UCLA,学生整体素质较高,水平平均,能有较好的互动。UCLA学费便宜,理科
(数学,物理,化学,经济,等等)强大,所以也会招收到优秀学生,但作为公立学校
不可避免的会接受很多需要政府照顾的学生,所以它的bottom half会差得不得了,这
是所有UC都有的问题
【在 b*******3 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : do you know funding was one of the ranking factors (legitimately so for : university overall ranking) ? private schools dominate the ranking in US : News. Best public school ranked 20 something if I am not mistaken. : If we leave the funding out of the ranking, there is no way USC out rank : UCLA. And for the tuition gap, I hope you aren't serious. 42000 vs 12000. : SERIOUSLY? : : know
| c******n 发帖数: 5697 | 30 现在名牌大学申请的人真多
你们的母校的admission committee不是接二连三的给你们email要你们帮他们做
admission interview吗?
Last update Jan. 27, 10:55 a.m. Send updates to t**********[email protected]
Total Apps 2012 Total Apps 2011 Change (raw number) Change as Pct
Amherst College (MA) 8,527 8,462 65 0.77%
Babson College (MA) 5,505 5,079 426 8.39%
Barnard College (NY) 5,376 5,153 223 4.33%
Bates College (ME) 4,879 5,145 -266 -5.17%
Binghamton University (NY) 28,100 28,101 -1 0.00%
Boston University (MA) 43,842 41,734 2108 5.05%
Bowdoin College (ME) 6,686 6,554 132 2.01%
Bucknell University (PA) 8,170 7,797 373 4.78%
Carnegie Mellon (PA) 17,374 16,525 849 5.14%
Claremont McKenna College (CA) 5,041 4,481 560 12.50%
Colby College (ME) 5,235 5,176 59 1.14%
Colgate University (NY) 7,715 7,708 7 0.09%
College of the Holy Cross (MA) 7,180 7,353 -173 -2.35%
College of William & Mary (VA) 13,400 12,825 575 4.48%
Columbia University (NY) 31,818 34,929 -3111 -8.91%
Cornell University (NY) 37,673 36,387 1386 3.53%
Dartmouth College (NH) 23,052 22,385 667 2.98%
Dickinson College (PA) 4,547 4,645 -98 -2.11%
Duke University (NC) 31,545 29,724 1,821 6.13%
Elon University, (NC) 10,004 9,071 933 10.29%
Emerson College (MA) 7,070 7,240 -170 -2.35%
Fordham University (NY) 28,963 26,651 2312 8.68%
Franklin W. Olin College of Engineering (MA) 881 868 13 1.50%
Georgia Tech (GA) 14,500 14,200 300 2.11%
Grinnell College (IA) 4,515 2,969 1546 52.07%
Hampshire College (MA) 2,888 2,517 371 14.74%
Harvard College 34,285 34,950 -665 -1.90%
Harvey Mudd (CA) 3,529 3,144 385 12.25%
Johns Hopkins University (MD) 19,400 19,201 199 1.04%
Lafayette College (PA) 6,537 5,716 821 14.36%
Lehigh University (PA) 11,366 11,431 -65 -0.57%
Miami University (OH) 18,623 16,476 2147 13.03%
Middlebury College (VT) 8,922 8,533 389 4.56%
Northwestern (IL) 32,016 30,926 1090 3.52%
Penn State University (PA) 39,311 37,901 1410 3.72%
Pomona College (CA) 7,325 7,207 118 1.64%
Pitzer College (CA) 4,218 3,743 475 12.69%
Ramapo College of New Jersey (NJ) 5,587 4,310 1277 29.63%
Scripps College (CA) 2,367 2,163 204 9.43%
Smith College (MA) 2,779 2,691 88 3.27%
Stanford University (CA) 36,744 34,348 2396 6.98%
Stony Brook University (NY) 25,493 24,780 713 2.88%
Trinity College (CT) 7,094 6,967 127 1.82%
Tufts University (MA) 16,364 17,130 -766 -4.47%
University of California, Berkeley (CA) 61,661 52,920 8741 16.52%
University of California, Los Angeles (CA) 72,636 61,564 11072
17.98%
University of Chicago (IL) 25,271 21,762 3509 16.12%
University of Connecticut (CT) 27,721 25,170 2551 10.14%
University of Delaware (DE) 24,675 22,473 2202 9.80%
University of Notre Dame (IN) 17,000 16,548 452 2.73%
University of Pennsylvania (PA) 31,127 31,663 -536 -1.69%
University of Richmond (VA) 10,121 9,431 690 7.32%
University of Rochester (NY) 14,655 13,311 1344 10.10%
U. of Virginia (VA) 28,200 23,971 4229 17.64%
Wake Forest University (NC) 11,131 9,869 1262 12.79%
Wesleyan University (CT) 10,437 9,986 451 4.52%
Williams College, (MA) 7,038 7,028 10 0.14%
Yale University (CT) 28,662 27,283 1379 5.05%
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【在 r*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : USC had a better ranking last year and UC system raised tuition 10% every : year for past 3-4 years (the tuition gap is much smaller now). I don't know : where you get your info.
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