i******s
发帖数: 8734 | 1 是不是只能申请medi-cal.
解放区哪里有人帮着办这些？ | i******s
发帖数: 8734 | 2
http://www.immihelp.com/forum/showthread.php/26930-Medical-Insu
按这里说的， 连medi-cal 都不能申请
因为When deciding the income and the public benefits, income of the sponsor
is counted in.
【在 i******s 的大作中提到】
: 是不是只能申请medi-cal.
: 解放区哪里有人帮着办这些？
| P*8
发帖数: 257 | 3 https://www.c4yourself.com
申请上去，给不给再说，花不了多少时间。
【在 i******s 的大作中提到】
: 是不是只能申请medi-cal.
: 解放区哪里有人帮着办这些？
| g******g
发帖数: 188 | 4 满62可以申medical。 不用人帮，自己搜在州政府网站搜medical， 填报报送即可。有
问题可短我
【在 i******s 的大作中提到】
: 是不是只能申请medi-cal.
: 解放区哪里有人帮着办这些？
| g*******0
发帖数: 368 | 5 有一楼完全是误导。加州官网明确说了只要拿了绿卡就可申请full-scope medi-cal，
五年内也行。移民局明确说了medicaid不在public charge内，不会跟sponsor追缴。
http://www.dhcs.ca.gov/services/medi-cal/eligibility/Pages/Medi
8. Can green card holders, including those who have lived legally in the US
for fewer than 5 years, enroll in Medi-Cal?
A lawful permanent resident (green card holder) is eligible for Medi-Cal
regardless of their date of entry if they meet all other eligibility
requirements. Under current Medi-Cal policy, eligible green card holders
get full scope Medi-Cal in California even if they have been in the United
States for less than 5 years.
http://www.uscis.gov/green-card/green-card-processes-and-proced
Q. What is a public charge and when does it apply?
A. For purposes of determining inadmissibility, “public charge” means an
individual who is likely to become primarily dependent on the government for
subsistence, as demonstrated by either the receipt of public cash
assistance for income maintenance or institutionalization for long-term care
at government expense.
Q. What publicly funded benefits may not be considered for public charge
purposes?
A. Non-cash benefits (other than institutionalization for long-term care)
are generally not taken into account for purposes of a public charge
determination.
Special-purpose cash assistance is also generally not taken into account for
purposes of public charge determination.
Non-cash or special-purpose cash benefits are generally supplemental in
nature and do not make a person primarily dependent on the government for
subsistence. Therefore, past, current, or future receipt of these benefits
do not impact a public charge determination. Non-cash or special purpose
cash benefits that are not considered for public charge purposes include:
Medicaid and other health insurance and health services (including
public assistance for immunizations and for testing and treatment of
symptoms of communicable diseases; use of health clinics, short-term
rehabilitation services, and emergency medical services) other than support
for long-term institutional care
Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP)
Nutrition programs, including Food Stamps, the Special Supplemental
Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC), the National School
Lunch and School Breakfast Program, and other supplementary and emergency
food assistance programs
Housing benefits
Child care services
Energy assistance, such as the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program
(LIHEAP)
Emergency disaster relief
Foster care and adoption assistance
Educational assistance (such as attending public school), including
benefits under the Head Start Act and aid for elementary, secondary, or
higher education
Job training programs
In-kind, community-based programs, services, or assistance (such as soup
kitchens, crisis counseling and intervention, and short-term shelter) | s**********9
发帖数: 1238 | 6
US
food stamp 算PUBLIC CHARGE吗？绿卡可以申请吗？
【在 g*******0 的大作中提到】
: 有一楼完全是误导。加州官网明确说了只要拿了绿卡就可申请full-scope medi-cal，
: 五年内也行。移民局明确说了medicaid不在public charge内，不会跟sponsor追缴。
: http://www.dhcs.ca.gov/services/medi-cal/eligibility/Pages/Medi
: 8. Can green card holders, including those who have lived legally in the US
: for fewer than 5 years, enroll in Medi-Cal?
: A lawful permanent resident (green card holder) is eligible for Medi-Cal
: regardless of their date of entry if they meet all other eligibility
: requirements. Under current Medi-Cal policy, eligible green card holders
: get full scope Medi-Cal in California even if they have been in the United
: States for less than 5 years.
| g*******0
发帖数: 368 | 7 不算
http://www.uscis.gov/green-card/green-card-processes-and-proced
Q. What publicly funded benefits may not be considered for public charge
purposes?
Nutrition programs, including Food Stamps, the Special Supplemental
Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC), the National School
Lunch and School Breakfast Program, and other supplementary and emergency
food assistance programs
【在 s**********9 的大作中提到】
:
: US
: food stamp 算PUBLIC CHARGE吗？绿卡可以申请吗？
| T****k
发帖数: 1374 | | d******8
发帖数: 3017 | 9 再赞一个。
【在 T****k 的大作中提到】
: 详细讲解，赞一个！
| i******s
发帖数: 8734 | 10 太感谢了
这下就放心了
版主把这个收JHQ 吧
la 版不能都是吃喝玩乐呀
US
【在 g*******0 的大作中提到】
: 有一楼完全是误导。加州官网明确说了只要拿了绿卡就可申请full-scope medi-cal，
: 五年内也行。移民局明确说了medicaid不在public charge内，不会跟sponsor追缴。
: http://www.dhcs.ca.gov/services/medi-cal/eligibility/Pages/Medi
: 8. Can green card holders, including those who have lived legally in the US
: for fewer than 5 years, enroll in Medi-Cal?
: A lawful permanent resident (green card holder) is eligible for Medi-Cal
: regardless of their date of entry if they meet all other eligibility
: requirements. Under current Medi-Cal policy, eligible green card holders
: get full scope Medi-Cal in California even if they have been in the United
: States for less than 5 years.
| s*******s
发帖数: 9926 | | t*c
发帖数: 8291 | 12 你这个理解应用的范围不对。
这是针对绿卡的申请资格而言的，如果officer认为一个人不会有
主要的public charge, 那可以发绿卡。
这是因为他有sponsor. 而提供医疗和食品住宿是sponsor的责任，
所以才不会成为政府责任。
如果你仔细看USCIS的另一份材料，
How do I sponsor someone who wants to immigrate
http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Resources/F3en.p
里面写到：
What is the purpose of the affidavit of support?
The affidavit of support helps ensure that new immigrants will not
need to rely on public benefits such as Food Stamps, Medicaid,
Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance to
Needy Families. If a person for whom you file an affidavit of support
becomes a permanent resident and is later given certain public
benefits, the agency that gave the benefits can require that you
repay that money
注意：明确提到新移民不会使用food stamps, medicaid等福利。
US
【在 g*******0 的大作中提到】
: 有一楼完全是误导。加州官网明确说了只要拿了绿卡就可申请full-scope medi-cal，
: 五年内也行。移民局明确说了medicaid不在public charge内，不会跟sponsor追缴。
: http://www.dhcs.ca.gov/services/medi-cal/eligibility/Pages/Medi
: 8. Can green card holders, including those who have lived legally in the US
: for fewer than 5 years, enroll in Medi-Cal?
: A lawful permanent resident (green card holder) is eligible for Medi-Cal
: regardless of their date of entry if they meet all other eligibility
: requirements. Under current Medi-Cal policy, eligible green card holders
: get full scope Medi-Cal in California even if they have been in the United
: States for less than 5 years.
| t*c
发帖数: 8291 | 13 我估计这事就是撑死胆大的，饿死胆小的。
不应该使用福利但是却使用了福利的人特别多。一般情况下（绝大多数情况下），政府
睁眼闭眼，不去管。 但是万一谁倒霉撞枪口上了，往往因为别的事情，比如政府要搞
谁，或者政治对手要搞谁，找不到别的地方咬，就可以把亲属移民使用福利的事情拿出
来恶心人， 罚一大笔钱。
要消除sponsor责任只有两个办法，一个是亲属变成公民，
另一个是亲属工作积满40点。
但是对于大部分人的父母移民，既不会参加工作积点，又不容易变成公民，
因为听不懂公民考试，子女就无法解除sponsor的关系。
【在 t*c 的大作中提到】
: 你这个理解应用的范围不对。
: 这是针对绿卡的申请资格而言的，如果officer认为一个人不会有
: 主要的public charge, 那可以发绿卡。
: 这是因为他有sponsor. 而提供医疗和食品住宿是sponsor的责任，
: 所以才不会成为政府责任。
: 如果你仔细看USCIS的另一份材料，
: How do I sponsor someone who wants to immigrate
: http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Resources/F3en.p
: 里面写到：
: What is the purpose of the affidavit of support?
| t*c
发帖数: 8291 | 14 美国在这件事上特别讨厌。非法移民可以使用medicaid,
加州的medicaid的发言人特别声明过的，不会把非法移民的身份信息跟
任何其他部门share, 不会导致非法移民被驱逐。
而非法移民还合法享受所有福利，包括food stamp 和住房福利。
可是合法公民sponsor的父母拿到绿卡后，虽然申请medicaid会
被批准，fodd stamp, 住房也都会批准，可是是有潜在风险的，
万一被清算，就亏大了。
如果父母常居美国不回国了，那么黑下来，比申请绿卡好得多。
使用福利的同时，子女没有被追讨的风险。
但是大部分父母还是要偶尔回国探亲和办事的。
所以就不能黑下来。
要是五年前就黑下来就好了，现在正好乘着大赦把身份合法漂白了。
还不需要sponsorship. |
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