g*******e
发帖数: 110 | 1 在下目前快要完成临床训练，面临找工作的事情。前几个月去了不少面谈。我看来工作
不外三方面，地点，收入，专业发展。很少有十全十美的，不是迁就这个就是迁就那个
。我知道不同专业的想法会有不同，但很想听一听我们中国医生的想法，什么是最重要
的。众位已经行医的前辈，不知可否指点一二。 | U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 2 OK, let me give my idea on this issue and its order based on the importance
in my mind:
for me, as a pathologist,
1. Working environment you feel comfortable or happy, will be appreciated by
your Chair/PD and peers......
2. academic program, to do clinic, teaching, and research combined or at
least you can chose.....
3. geographic and salary is totally compromise to above.......
con for your achievement and eventually training done as a CMG surgeon from
a famous US surgery program fellowship!
pr
【在 g*******e 的大作中提到】
: 在下目前快要完成临床训练，面临找工作的事情。前几个月去了不少面谈。我看来工作
: 不外三方面，地点，收入，专业发展。很少有十全十美的，不是迁就这个就是迁就那个
: 。我知道不同专业的想法会有不同，但很想听一听我们中国医生的想法，什么是最重要
: 的。众位已经行医的前辈，不知可否指点一二。
| g*******e
发帖数: 110 | 3 谢谢老刀指点。这第一点确实很重要，因为总的来讲，工作的时间要比在家的时间多。 | g*******e
发帖数: 110 | 4 about location, I don't know how important it is to be in a metro area. like
access to concert, to China town, good resturant etc. basically, I did not
have whole lot of time to enjoy life outside of hospital all those years,
just wondering after having some of own controlled time, will location be an
issue. | e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 5 Congratulations! What's your fellowship?
I'd say that in the first few years skill set development is more important. Once you experience more cases, become an expert and gain a good reputation, it's easier to switch job/relocate later.
If want to settle down, good working environment, autonomy，lifestyle,
location, and income should be considered. | g*******e
发帖数: 110 | 6 thanks. you should be able to guess my specialty. I been so many places,
there are three kinds of jobs, first, the very top ones, you need to write
tons of papers and do clinical trials, you also gets to do very rare cases
which no other places will do. second is the majority, you do bread and
butter cases. third also not common, you do limited ones and refer the
complex ones to big center. the first kind of life is very very stressful,
there are incredible amount of pressure, but you can have
【在 e*****a 的大作中提到】
: Congratulations! What's your fellowship?
: I'd say that in the first few years skill set development is more important. Once you experience more cases, become an expert and gain a good reputation, it's easier to switch job/relocate later.
: If want to settle down, good working environment, autonomy，lifestyle,
: location, and income should be considered.
| g*******e
发帖数: 110 | 7 Last time I went interveiw with one PD in an academic program, he told me
the reason why they need someone is they just had one guy quiet. and
actually this guy is a CMG also. after finishing his fellowship, he worked
in a academic center for several years, and did pretty well and is well
published. Now he quits because had a big family and has a lot of financial
pressures. HE is in private now. 【 在 USMedEdu (US_CMGs) 的大作中提到: 】
importance
by
from | e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 8 Yes, it's a very personal decision. Some people like intellectual
stimulation, others just treat this as a business.
Location is kind of important. If you earn a lot of money but no place to spend, your family could get bored at some small towns or in the middle of nowhere.
【在 g*******e 的大作中提到】
: thanks. you should be able to guess my specialty. I been so many places,
: there are three kinds of jobs, first, the very top ones, you need to write
: tons of papers and do clinical trials, you also gets to do very rare cases
: which no other places will do. second is the majority, you do bread and
: butter cases. third also not common, you do limited ones and refer the
: complex ones to big center. the first kind of life is very very stressful,
: there are incredible amount of pressure, but you can have
| a**e
发帖数: 5094 | 9 我觉得location很重要。不顺心的时候，去chinatown大吃大喝或是去shopping mall血
拼都是一件很快乐的事情。人立刻就觉得精神了，然后可以继续投入战斗
like
not
an
【在 g*******e 的大作中提到】
: about location, I don't know how important it is to be in a metro area. like
: access to concert, to China town, good resturant etc. basically, I did not
: have whole lot of time to enjoy life outside of hospital all those years,
: just wondering after having some of own controlled time, will location be an
: issue.
| u***e
发帖数: 611 | 10 羡慕哦，事业为主自然去牛校，location就其次了，生活为主那location就重要了，对
老中来说，首选加州，次选纽约，三选加拿大。 | | | a**e
发帖数: 5094 | 11 你原来那嘎搭就挺好，除了房子太便宜是个缺点以外：）
【在 u***e 的大作中提到】
: 羡慕哦，事业为主自然去牛校，location就其次了，生活为主那location就重要了，对
: 老中来说，首选加州，次选纽约，三选加拿大。
| s*********7
发帖数: 34 | 12 同感！有chinatown的时候不觉得有什么，一离开，马上就觉得受不了了。以后工作肯
定去大城市，哪怕赚得少。
【在 a**e 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得location很重要。不顺心的时候，去chinatown大吃大喝或是去shopping mall血
: 拼都是一件很快乐的事情。人立刻就觉得精神了，然后可以继续投入战斗
:
: like
: not
: an
| u***e
发帖数: 611 | 13 那里适合年收入20万以下的老中，不适合楼主，楼主应该是在加州海边买个豪宅的那种。
【在 a**e 的大作中提到】
: 你原来那嘎搭就挺好，除了房子太便宜是个缺点以外：）
| r*******g
发帖数: 5495 | 14 气候也很重要，我喜欢阳光普照的地方，喜欢夏天长冬天短的地方。。。精神饱满又激
昂。。。
【在 a**e 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得location很重要。不顺心的时候，去chinatown大吃大喝或是去shopping mall血
: 拼都是一件很快乐的事情。人立刻就觉得精神了，然后可以继续投入战斗
:
: like
: not
: an
| L****n
发帖数: 12932 | 15 a short suggestion: just like buying a house, location, location, location. | g*******e
发帖数: 110 | 16 thanks for your guys input, I appreciate it. Eric, I agree with you, it is a
very personal decision, depends on what you like in life. I was wondering
if there are something as practicing CMG physicians in common, guess it
really up to oneself.
but there are some technique issues on how to look for job, how to shape
your careers etc. I will give my 2 cents once I start practicing. | e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 17 Great. Would like to hear your opinions on surgical subspecialties as well.
your careers etc. I will give my 2 cents once I start practicing.
【在 g*******e 的大作中提到】
: thanks for your guys input, I appreciate it. Eric, I agree with you, it is a
: very personal decision, depends on what you like in life. I was wondering
: if there are something as practicing CMG physicians in common, guess it
: really up to oneself.
: but there are some technique issues on how to look for job, how to shape
: your careers etc. I will give my 2 cents once I start practicing.
| a*********d
发帖数: 2763 | 18 you always have options, and if you end up don't like the place you go to,
just change the place, it's some times hard to find a right job at right
time, and you might change your perspective later on.
so i think looking for the right job is important, but THE MOST important
thing is, to get a good contract, go through with your lawyer, make sure you
don't get screwed when you are there and after you leave there. that's
where most foreign doctors got hit pretty hard.
good luck! time really flies | g*******e
发帖数: 110 | 19 ha ha, you must be in IT profession, remind me of one of my classmate in
college, when he thought he was ready to date, he made a table, list all the
girls in our class and rated them according to their look, height, study
score, family condition etc, and give one score per area and then add up
together, pick the girl with the highest overall score and then tried to
date her.
I think the most important thing is to know yourself, what is really
important for life, remember, one man's meat can be | g*******e
发帖数: 110 | 20 ha ha, you must be in IT profession, remind me of one of my classmate in
college, when he thought he was ready to date, he made a table, list all the
girls in our class and rated them according to their look, height, study
score, family condition etc, and give one score per area and then add up
together, pick the girl with the highest overall score and then tried to
date her.
I think the most important thing is to know yourself, what is really
important for life, remember, one man's meat can be | | | g*******e
发帖数: 110 | 21 thanks, there is an old lyric says looking from the beginning it is eternity
, but looking from the end it is short. I still have 8 month to go, but
seeing the light of the end of tunnel now. when I went for interview, people
really treat you like their equal, that is a weird feeling, but it is good
feeling. you will be there soon, before you know it.
you
well
【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: you always have options, and if you end up don't like the place you go to,
: just change the place, it's some times hard to find a right job at right
: time, and you might change your perspective later on.
: so i think looking for the right job is important, but THE MOST important
: thing is, to get a good contract, go through with your lawyer, make sure you
: don't get screwed when you are there and after you leave there. that's
: where most foreign doctors got hit pretty hard.
: good luck! time really flies
| k**e
发帖数: 2728 | 22 Any detail about the part why and how the foreign doctors got hit hard (and
hence how to avoid this by going through the contract stuff with the lawyer)
? Sounds like useful information for a lot of doctor-to-be...
Thanks!
you
well
【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: you always have options, and if you end up don't like the place you go to,
: just change the place, it's some times hard to find a right job at right
: time, and you might change your perspective later on.
: so i think looking for the right job is important, but THE MOST important
: thing is, to get a good contract, go through with your lawyer, make sure you
: don't get screwed when you are there and after you leave there. that's
: where most foreign doctors got hit pretty hard.
: good luck! time really flies
| s*******w
发帖数: 1879 | 23 我是路过打soy sauce的。
问各位好！导线大叔加油！ | g*******e
发帖数: 110 | 24 谢谢, 这一段东跑西颠， 累死了。等静下来， 我谈谈体会。
【在 s*******w 的大作中提到】
: 我是路过打soy sauce的。
: 问各位好！导线大叔加油！
| a********e
发帖数: 3771 | 25 Take a good rest:-)
【在 g*******e 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢, 这一段东跑西颠， 累死了。等静下来， 我谈谈体会。
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