s**5
发帖数: 4 | 1 今天见了一位来面试的。根据面试者的表现，结合自己的经验教训，发表的个人看法，
与有不同见解，请参与讨论。
1、要谦虚，不可锋芒毕露。很多人以为多主动表现自己，会给人好印象。个人以为这
是误解。过于表现自己，有人会觉得你自大，担心你不好相处；而且，弄不好会弄巧成
拙，让人觉得肤浅无知。
2。面试主要是了解面试者性格、个性、为人等方面，要让人觉得你 sweet,而不是
smart。你的简历、成绩等已经说明你是个smart 好candidate了， 不必再去表现专业
方面，除非别人问你。要把精力放在如何让人觉得你是个sweet人，容易合作、相处，
喜欢你。
祝各位好运！ | V*****G
发帖数: 337 | 2 Well said.
Can someone give some examples or situations?
Lots of cows on this board. Some may have experience of interviewing
candidates.
【在 s**5 的大作中提到】
: 今天见了一位来面试的。根据面试者的表现，结合自己的经验教训，发表的个人看法，
: 与有不同见解，请参与讨论。
: 1、要谦虚，不可锋芒毕露。很多人以为多主动表现自己，会给人好印象。个人以为这
: 是误解。过于表现自己，有人会觉得你自大，担心你不好相处；而且，弄不好会弄巧成
: 拙，让人觉得肤浅无知。
: 2。面试主要是了解面试者性格、个性、为人等方面，要让人觉得你 sweet,而不是
: smart。你的简历、成绩等已经说明你是个smart 好candidate了， 不必再去表现专业
: 方面，除非别人问你。要把精力放在如何让人觉得你是个sweet人，容易合作、相处，
: 喜欢你。
: 祝各位好运！
| s**5
发帖数: 4 | 3 今天chief resident 讲了几点他关于好的candidate的标准，虽然是一人的观点，但我
觉得将要面试的应注意和参考。
1、 任何时候不要在别人面前打哈欠。他认为打哈欠让人觉得，candidate feel
boring, 对program不感兴趣。
2、和resident在一起时，不能扪不作声。有好多关于 ROTATION、教学、生活等方面的
问题可以请教他们。当然不要问会让别人尴尬的问题。
3、 要主动问别的 resident 关于program 的一些正面情况、或中性的问题。如 AP 和
CP ROTATION，TEACHING 等方面如何。人家当然愿意讲一些program 好的方面。让他
们有机会表现自己。人都愿意表现自己，他们会有满足感。这样，你和别的resident
之间就有了良性互动。
总之，不要让人家觉得你“BORING”；以问为主，让他们表现。让他们高兴了，你就搞
定了。 | j******g
发帖数: 171 | 4 Good points.
The art of interview, and perhaps of anything behavioral process, is balance
. In Chinese, Confucius well said long ago: Be neutral and modest (中庸).
【在 s**5 的大作中提到】
: 今天见了一位来面试的。根据面试者的表现，结合自己的经验教训，发表的个人看法，
: 与有不同见解，请参与讨论。
: 1、要谦虚，不可锋芒毕露。很多人以为多主动表现自己，会给人好印象。个人以为这
: 是误解。过于表现自己，有人会觉得你自大，担心你不好相处；而且，弄不好会弄巧成
: 拙，让人觉得肤浅无知。
: 2。面试主要是了解面试者性格、个性、为人等方面，要让人觉得你 sweet,而不是
: smart。你的简历、成绩等已经说明你是个smart 好candidate了， 不必再去表现专业
: 方面，除非别人问你。要把精力放在如何让人觉得你是个sweet人，容易合作、相处，
: 喜欢你。
: 祝各位好运！
| v*********0
发帖数: 941 | | j**********2
发帖数: 1495 | 6 peer interview 要注意別鋒芒必露惹人反感。但是如果是manager面試的話，適當表現
還是重要的吧 | S**********e
发帖数: 1325 | 7 讲得好！个人经验，补充一点：有时可以 Stay hungry, stay foolish
在我身上一直都管事儿的
【在 s**5 的大作中提到】
: 今天chief resident 讲了几点他关于好的candidate的标准，虽然是一人的观点，但我
: 觉得将要面试的应注意和参考。
: 1、 任何时候不要在别人面前打哈欠。他认为打哈欠让人觉得，candidate feel
: boring, 对program不感兴趣。
: 2、和resident在一起时，不能扪不作声。有好多关于 ROTATION、教学、生活等方面的
: 问题可以请教他们。当然不要问会让别人尴尬的问题。
: 3、 要主动问别的 resident 关于program 的一些正面情况、或中性的问题。如 AP 和
: CP ROTATION，TEACHING 等方面如何。人家当然愿意讲一些program 好的方面。让他
: 们有机会表现自己。人都愿意表现自己，他们会有满足感。这样，你和别的resident
: 之间就有了良性互动。
| P********r
发帖数: 92 | 8 是 Jobs 的粉丝吧。我也喜欢他的这句： 'Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish.'
【在 S**********e 的大作中提到】
: 讲得好！个人经验，补充一点：有时可以 Stay hungry, stay foolish
: 在我身上一直都管事儿的
| j******g
发帖数: 171 | 9 Didn't read his book. Mind enlarging the topic a little bit? Thanks!
【在 P********r 的大作中提到】
: 是 Jobs 的粉丝吧。我也喜欢他的这句： 'Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish.'
| T****t
发帖数: 616 | 10 我也没有读过书。我刚刚google了一下，比较长。见链接。
Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish.
Steve Jobs’ 2005 Stanford Commencement Address
http://loveneverending.com/?p=1734
| p********m
发帖数: 325 | 11 This is from Jobs' speech in 2005 Stanford Commencement
Stay hungry, stay foolish , the perfect answer for IV question : “ How you could (humbly) fit in a resident position / team, when you have more
experience / higher degree than some faculties here"
The inspiration in this speech made me tearing. Best sentences i like :
1. you can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them
looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect
in your future. You have to trust in something - your gut, destiny, life,
karma, whatever. This approach has never let me down, and it has made all
the difference in my life.
2. Sometimes life hits you in the head with a brick. Don't lose faith. I'm
convinced that the only thing that kept me going was that I loved what I did
. keep looking. Don't settle.
3. Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the
trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There
is no reason not to follow your heart.
4. Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish
--------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1R-jKKp3NA
I am honored to be with you today at your commencement from one of the
finest universities in the world. I never graduated from college. Truth be
told, this is the closest I've ever gotten to a college graduation. Today I
want to tell you three stories from my life. That's it. No big deal. Just
three stories.
The first story is about connecting the dots.
I dropped out of Reed College after the first 6 months, but then stayed
around as a drop-in for another 18 months or so before I really quit. So why
did I drop out?
It started before I was born. My biological mother was a young, unwed
college graduate student, and she decided to put me up for adoption. She
felt very strongly that I should be adopted by college graduates, so
everything was all set for me to be adopted at birth by a lawyer and his
wife. Except that when I popped out they decided at the last minute that
they really wanted a girl. So my parents, who were on a waiting list, got a
call in the middle of the night asking: "We have an unexpected baby boy; do
you want him?" They said: "Of course." My biological mother later found out
that my mother had never graduated from college and that my father had never
graduated from high school. She refused to sign the final adoption papers.
She only relented a few months later when my parents promised that I would
someday go to college.
And 17 years later I did go to college. But I naively chose a college that
was almost as expensive as Stanford, and all of my working-class parents'
savings were being spent on my college tuition. After six months, I couldn't
see the value in it. I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life and no
idea how college was going to help me figure it out. And here I was spending
all of the money my parents had saved their entire life. So I decided to
drop out and trust that it would all work out OK. It was pretty scary at the
time, but looking back it was one of the best decisions I ever made. The
minute I dropped out I could stop taking the required classes that didn't
interest me, and begin dropping in on the ones that looked interesting.
It wasn't all romantic. I didn't have a dorm room, so I slept on the floor
in friends' rooms, I returned coke bottles for the 5¢ deposits to buy
food with, and I would walk the 7 miles across town every Sunday night to
get one good meal a week at the Hare Krishna temple. I loved it. And much of
what I stumbled into by following my curiosity and intuition turned out to
be priceless later on. Let me give you one example:
Reed College at that time offered perhaps the best calligraphy instruction
in the country. Throughout the campus every poster, every label on every
drawer, was beautifully hand calligraphed. Because I had dropped out and
didn't have to take the normal classes, I decided to take a calligraphy
class to learn how to do this. I learned about serif and san serif typefaces
, about varying the amount of space between different letter combinations,
about what makes great typography great. It was beautiful, historical,
artistically subtle in a way that science can't capture, and I found it
fascinating.
None of this had even a hope of any practical application in my life. But
ten years later, when we were designing the first Macintosh computer, it all
came back to me. And we designed it all into the Mac. It was the first
computer with beautiful typography. If I had never dropped in on that single
course in college, the Mac would have never had multiple typefaces or
proportionally spaced fonts. And since Windows just copied the Mac, it's
likely that no personal computer would have them. If I had never dropped out
, I would have never dropped in on this calligraphy class, and personal
computers might not have the wonderful typography that they do. Of course it
was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college.
But it was very, very clear looking backwards ten years later.
Again, you can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them
looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect
in your future. You have to trust in something - your gut, destiny, life,
karma, whatever. This approach has never let me down, and it has made all
the difference in my life.
My second story is about love and loss.
I was lucky - I found what I loved to do early in life. Woz and I started
Apple in my parents garage when I was 20. We worked hard, and in 10 years
Apple had grown from just the two of us in a garage into a $2 billion
company with over 4000 employees. We had just released our finest creation -
the Macintosh - a year earlier, and I had just turned 30. And then I got
fired. How can you get fired from a company you started? Well, as Apple grew
we hired someone who I thought was very talented to run the company with me
, and for the first year or so things went well. But then our visions of the
future began to diverge and eventually we had a falling out. When we did,
our Board of Directors sided with him. So at 30 I was out. And very publicly
out. What had been the focus of my entire adult life was gone, and it was
devastating.
I really didn't know what to do for a few months. I felt that I had let the
previous generation of entrepreneurs down - that I had dropped the baton as
it was being passed to me. I met with David Packard and Bob Noyce and tried
to apologize for screwing up so badly. I was a very public failure, and I
even thought about running away from the valley. But something slowly began
to dawn on me - I still loved what I did. The turn of events at Apple had
not changed that one bit. I had been rejected, but I was still in love. And
so I decided to start over.
I didn't see it then, but it turned out that getting fired from Apple was
the best thing that could have ever happened to me. The heaviness of being
successful was replaced by the lightness of being a beginner again, less
sure about everything. It freed me to enter one of the most creative periods
of my life.
During the next five years, I started a company named NeXT, another company
named Pixar, and fell in love with an amazing woman who would become my wife
. Pixar went on to create the worlds first computer animated feature film,
Toy Story, and is now the most successful animation studio in the world. In
a remarkable turn of events, Apple bought NeXT, I returned to Apple, and the
technology we developed at NeXT is at the heart of Apple's current
renaissance. And Laurene and I have a wonderful family together.
I'm pretty sure none of this would have happened if I hadn't been fired from
Apple. It was awful tasting medicine, but I guess the patient needed it.
Sometimes life hits you in the head with a brick. Don't lose faith. I'm
convinced that the only thing that kept me going was that I loved what I did
. You've got to find what you love. And that is as true for your work as it
is for your lovers. Your work is going to fill a large part of your life,
and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great
work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven
't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the
heart, you'll know when you find it. And, like any great relationship, it
just gets better and better as the years roll on. So keep looking until you
find it. Don't settle.
My third story is about death.
When I was 17, I read a quote that went something like: "If you live each
day as if it was your last, someday you'll most certainly be right." It made
an impression on me, and since then, for the past 33 years, I have looked
in the mirror every morning and asked myself: "If today were the last day of
my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?" And whenever the
answer has been "No" for too many days in a row, I know I need to change
something.
Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever
encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost
everything - all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment
or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only
what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best
way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are
already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.
About a year ago I was diagnosed with cancer. I had a scan at 7:30 in the
morning, and it clearly showed a tumor on my pancreas. I didn't even know
what a pancreas was. The doctors told me this was almost certainly a type of
cancer that is incurable, and that I should expect to live no longer than
three to six months. My doctor advised me to go home and get my affairs in
order, which is doctor's code for prepare to die. It means to try to tell
your kids everything you thought you'd have the next 10 years to tell them
in just a few months. It means to make sure everything is buttoned up so
that it will be as easy as possible for your family. It means to say your
goodbyes.
I lived with that diagnosis all day. Later that evening I had a biopsy,
where they stuck an endoscope down my throat, through my stomach and into my
intestines, put a needle into my pancreas and got a few cells from the
tumor. I was sedated, but my wife, who was there, told me that when they
viewed the cells under a microscope the doctors started crying because it
turned out to be a very rare form of pancreatic cancer that is curable with
surgery. I had the surgery and I'm fine now.
This was the closest I've been to facing death, and I hope it's the closest
I get for a few more decades. Having lived through it, I can now say this to
you with a bit more certainty than when death was a useful but purely
intellectual concept:
No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don't want to die
to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever
escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the
single best invention of Life. It is Life's change agent. It clears out the
old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too
long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry
to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.
Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be
trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's
thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner
voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and
intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become.
Everything else is secondary.
When I was young, there was an amazing publication called The Whole Earth
Catalog, which was one of the bibles of my generation. It was created by a
fellow named Stewart Brand not far from here in Menlo Park, and he brought
it to life with his poetic touch. This was in the late 1960's, before
personal computers and desktop publishing, so it was all made with
typewriters, scissors, and polaroid cameras. It was sort of like Google in
paperback form, 35 years before Google came along: it was idealistic, and
overflowing with neat tools and great notions.
Stewart and his team put out several issues of The Whole Earth Catalog, and
then when it had run its course, they put out a final issue. It was the mid-
1970s, and I was your age. On the back cover of their final issue was a
photograph of an early morning country road, the kind you might find
yourself hitchhiking on if you were so adventurous. Beneath it were the
words: "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." It was their farewell message as they
signed off. Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish. And I have always wished that for
myself. And now, as you graduate to begin anew, I wish that for you.
Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish. | z**********4
发帖数: 467 | 12 It could be a disaster to do something that is not appealing to your own
heart. Someone told me " You do not have to be the most smart to be the best
resident. But you must be the most motivated. The motivation comes from
your heart." In IVs, ppl will sense your motivation and enthusiasm. It is a
belief that transcends the material incentives. It is also something
intangible that goes far beyond words or scripts that could ever have been
prepared. A analogy in case is that you do not have to go out of your way to
memorize a verse or a script in order to show a girl that you love her. I
guess that "why this specialty" is the most important question during the
entire interview. All of the other questions revolved around this one. To
begin with, you must ask yourself and try to convince yourself that this
specialty suits yourself most. It is rather difficult to ask other ppl to
answer this question for you. You know yourself best. I am sure that most of
the prematchers answered this question "why this" from the bottom of their
heart and their answers were unique to their unique experiences. Their eyes
were glaring and their tones were firm and unshakable when they answered
this question. If your inside is incoherent with your outside. You are
actually lying to yourself. At that time, you will be lack of confidence and
fidgeting. | P********r
发帖数: 92 | 13 Thanks for filling in the information. ---- TheCat (Cat), pathodream (天涯饱
看山)
Just to pitch in the one that caught my heart the first time I heard his
talk---When describing his publicly kicking out of APPLE, he said:
'The heaviness of being successful was replaced by the lightness of being a
beginner again, less sure about everything. It freed me to enter one of the
most creative periods of my life.' | P********r
发帖数: 92 | 14 Thanks for sharing your thought from you IV experience. I have no doubt that
you'd be a valuable asset to the program. Wish you the best!
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【在 z**********4 的大作中提到】
: It could be a disaster to do something that is not appealing to your own
: heart. Someone told me " You do not have to be the most smart to be the best
: resident. But you must be the most motivated. The motivation comes from
: your heart." In IVs, ppl will sense your motivation and enthusiasm. It is a
: belief that transcends the material incentives. It is also something
: intangible that goes far beyond words or scripts that could ever have been
: prepared. A analogy in case is that you do not have to go out of your way to
: memorize a verse or a script in order to show a girl that you love her. I
: guess that "why this specialty" is the most important question during the
: entire interview. All of the other questions revolved around this one. To
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