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MedicalCareer版 - ******2013 General Surgery Interview/Rej Tread******
相关主题
我是怎样成功scramble的About anesthsiology application?
acne: [合集] 和内科比起来,prelim IM面试有什么不同?Preliminary Impression on Yale Surgery
跟老板摊牌了,请大家看看怎么办好,谢谢大家知道international fellowship program吗?
IMG friendly states and specialty求外科申请相关的信息,讨论和同仁
-------IVs and Rejections for 2011 Match-------关于preliminary and categorical IM
我来开一个病理 IV 和 Rej 的主题吧Anybody wants to match surgery?
关于申请同一个 Internal Medicine Program Categorical and Preliminary请问surgery-preliminary 第二年如何安排啊?
既然各位前辈都在, 能不能科普一下prelim surgeryPS FOR PRELIMINARY specialty
相关话题的讨论汇总
话题: university话题: rej话题: surgery话题: medical话题: hospital
进入MedicalCareer版参与讨论
1 (共1页)
m******l
发帖数: 38
1
Surgery一贯被认为非常难进,但相信还是有热爱Surgery的人申请的。希望有任何
Interview Invite或Rejection的同志上来留个言,让其他焦急等待的人多一些信息。
也希望版主大力支持少数的外科申请者。
先说我了解得情况:the student doctor network上已经有20多programs开始向AMGs发
邀请了。根据其他IMG版去年的情况,Program一般在10月底至11月向IMGs发邀请。
I am updating this thread regularly below.
Till Sep 26,
0 invite
Rejects from Spartanburg Regional Medical Center, and Carilion Clinic.
m*******1
发帖数: 328
2
顶,第一次看到Lady这么热衷GS....GREAT!
a******a
发帖数: 146
3
1 rej
Thank you for your interest in the general surgery residency program at
Spartanburg Regional Medical Center. After careful review of your
application, I regret to inform you that we are unable to extend an
invitation to interview for a position in our program.
I wish you well in your residency search and hope you match in a suitable
program.
Sincerely,
Charles E. Morrow, MD, FACS
Program Director
General Surgery Residency
Spartanburg Regional Medical Center
m******l
发帖数: 38
4
Thank you alexanda for your response. I didn't apply that program for
knowing they have 0% IMGs averagely.

【在 a******a 的大作中提到】
: 1 rej
: Thank you for your interest in the general surgery residency program at
: Spartanburg Regional Medical Center. After careful review of your
: application, I regret to inform you that we are unable to extend an
: invitation to interview for a position in our program.
: I wish you well in your residency search and hope you match in a suitable
: program.
: Sincerely,
: Charles E. Morrow, MD, FACS
: Program Director

h**h
发帖数: 262
5
rej: Carilion Clinic
i*******r
发帖数: 23
6
same here!
rej from Carilion Clinic
m******l
发帖数: 38
7
Thank you hszh.

【在 h**h 的大作中提到】
: rej: Carilion Clinic
m******l
发帖数: 38
8
Thank you inhibitor.
【 在 inhibitor (lw) 的大作中提到: 】
s*********s
发帖数: 85
9
I rejction from swidish hospital,
Carilion Clinic
OSUH
m******l
发帖数: 38
10
Thank you yanjun.
Do you mean Swedish Medical Center in Seattle, and Ohio State University
Hospital?

【在 s*********s 的大作中提到】
: I rejction from swidish hospital,
: Carilion Clinic
: OSUH

相关主题
我来开一个病理 IV 和 Rej 的主题吧About anesthsiology application?
关于申请同一个 Internal Medicine Program Categorical and PreliminaryPreliminary Impression on Yale Surgery
既然各位前辈都在, 能不能科普一下prelim surgery大家知道international fellowship program吗?
进入MedicalCareer版参与讨论
s*********s
发帖数: 85
11
yes
s*********s
发帖数: 85
12
IT seems you know me, who are you
m******l
发帖数: 38
13
LOL, it's your ID. But I'd like to know you. Thank you for the clarification.

【在 s*********s 的大作中提到】
: IT seems you know me, who are you
s*********s
发帖数: 85
14
my skype : shiyanjunss
s*********s
发帖数: 85
15
New rejection from Abington Memorial Hospital. a acknowlegement letter from
Medstar washington
m******l
发帖数: 38
16
Thank you shiyanjunss.

from

【在 s*********s 的大作中提到】
: New rejection from Abington Memorial Hospital. a acknowlegement letter from
: Medstar washington

m******l
发帖数: 38
17
Just got 1st rejection from Ohio State University. Fellows, let's keep this
thread going. Please drop a line if you have any invites/rejections.
h**h
发帖数: 262
18
Rej from Ohio state university.
m******l
发帖数: 38
19
Thank you hszh.

【在 h**h 的大作中提到】
: Rej from Ohio state university.
r*********2
发帖数: 20
20
Reject from Carilion Clinic too
相关主题
求外科申请相关的信息,讨论和同仁请问surgery-preliminary 第二年如何安排啊?
关于preliminary and categorical IMPS FOR PRELIMINARY specialty
Anybody wants to match surgery?写一个什么样的外科ps
进入MedicalCareer版参与讨论
m******l
发帖数: 38
21
Rejection from Palmetto Health / University of South Carolina School of
Medicine and Lankenau Medical Center Program.
m******l
发帖数: 38
22
Thank you regalgs2012.

【在 r*********2 的大作中提到】
: Reject from Carilion Clinic too
h**h
发帖数: 262
23
Rej from UTMB
M****a
发帖数: 577
24
我去年第一封拒信也是Ohio State

this

【在 m******l 的大作中提到】
: Just got 1st rejection from Ohio State University. Fellows, let's keep this
: thread going. Please drop a line if you have any invites/rejections.

m******l
发帖数: 38
25
rej from Oregon Health & Science University and Bronx-Lebanon Hospital.
h**h
发帖数: 262
26
OREGON HEALTH & SCIENCE UNIVERSITY
DEPARTMENT OF SURGERY
GENERAL SURGERY RESIDENCY
Our application requirements for 2013-2014 are:
● An ERAS application
● A personal photograph
● A personal statement
● A Dean’s Letter with a transcript
● Two letters of recommendation (more can be submitted, but only 2
required)
● Official USMLE Scores, Part I (cutoff is 200 to be considered). We do
not accept scores from other types of exams.
● If you have had previous training, send letters of recommendation from
the Program Director(s) of your first postgraduate year and any subsequent
residency training.
● Foreign Medical Graduates must submit proof of ECFMG-Certification (
unless they are graduating in June 2013). No prior American experience is
required. We do not sponsor any types of visas. As an FMG your chances of
getting an interview in our program are very small unless you know or have
worked with someone in our institution. We have hundreds of qualified FMGs
apply each year, only a handful of applicants obtain an interview and these
are normally people we know. You might do better applying to programs who
take more FMGs.
You can find more information about our program on our website at:
http://www.ohsu.edu/ohsuedu/academic/som/surgery/divisions/gene
For further information please contact the Residency Coordinator at altonr@
ohsu.edu, or call (503)494-4936.
Robin Alton
Education Manager
Department of Surgery
Oregon Health & Science University
m******l
发帖数: 38
27
Hi hszh, did you get a rejection from OREGON HEALTH & SCIENCE as well?
This statement really drove me nuts. -We have hundreds of qualified FMGs
apply each year, only a handful of applicants obtain an interview and these
are normally people we know.

【在 h**h 的大作中提到】
: OREGON HEALTH & SCIENCE UNIVERSITY
: DEPARTMENT OF SURGERY
: GENERAL SURGERY RESIDENCY
: Our application requirements for 2013-2014 are:
: ● An ERAS application
: ● A personal photograph
: ● A personal statement
: ● A Dean’s Letter with a transcript
: ● Two letters of recommendation (more can be submitted, but only 2
: required)

h**h
发帖数: 262
28
this is the contact email before I applied. I did not apply there. I just
remind that this program only accepts FMG they know.
h**h
发帖数: 262
29
Rejection: New York Presbyterian Hospital Columbia Campus
u*******8
发帖数: 497
30
Ohio State University对华人留学生据说还很nice,但是hospital对华人申请者就不
Nice来哦
相关主题
Competition increase in US residency matchacne: [合集] 和内科比起来,prelim IM面试有什么不同?
Who is a real Old FMG?跟老板摊牌了,请大家看看怎么办好,谢谢
我是怎样成功scramble的IMG friendly states and specialty
进入MedicalCareer版参与讨论
s*********e
发帖数: 100
31
Rejection from Bassett Medical Center
M****a
发帖数: 577
32
我也被这个医院拒过,去年11月份的事情

【在 h**h 的大作中提到】
: Rejection: New York Presbyterian Hospital Columbia Campus
r*********2
发帖数: 20
33
Rejection from Marshall University's Joan C.Edwards School of Medicine.
h**h
发帖数: 262
34
Rej: Sinai hospital, Baltimore
a***r
发帖数: 2677
35
I got same last yr. haha.
失节夷齐下首阳,院门推出太凄凉。头上打歪新结束,胸中惊乱旧文章。朝来饱饭周家
粟,暮去仍炊仲子粮。从今决意还山去,薇蕨堪嗟已吃光。

【在 r*********2 的大作中提到】
: Rejection from Marshall University's Joan C.Edwards School of Medicine.
h**h
发帖数: 262
36
Rej:niversity Hospital/University of Cincinnati College
m******l
发帖数: 38
37
rej from Providence Hospital and Medical Centers.
c******s
发帖数: 5583
38
add oil.
very competitive recent 2,3 years. Lots of applicants all over the country.
m******l
发帖数: 38
39
rej from Florida Hospital
n*****1
发帖数: 17
40
rejection from university of chicago
相关主题
IMG friendly states and specialty关于申请同一个 Internal Medicine Program Categorical and Preliminary
-------IVs and Rejections for 2011 Match-------既然各位前辈都在, 能不能科普一下prelim surgery
我来开一个病理 IV 和 Rej 的主题吧About anesthsiology application?
进入MedicalCareer版参与讨论
m******l
发帖数: 38
41
Rej from University of Arizona
h**h
发帖数: 262
42
Rej:Dartmouth-Hitchcock medical center
Rej: Texas A&M-Scott&White
h**h
发帖数: 262
43
Rej:University of Virginia
n*****1
发帖数: 17
44
每年, 除了有CONNECTION 的, 有MATCH 上外科的吗? 这么久还没有一个INTERVIEW
。。 灰心中。。。
h**h
发帖数: 262
45
我也觉得没有关系根本进不了,即使考分很高也难。prelimposition很多都不参加
match,好像是留给没match上的amg的,然后剩余的给img。
m******l
发帖数: 38
46
Hang in there, guys. Don't give up yet. According to IMGs who matched last
yr, their interviews actually came in mid Nov.
m******l
发帖数: 38
47
Surgery一贯被认为非常难进,但相信还是有热爱Surgery的人申请的。希望有任何
Interview Invite或Rejection的同志上来留个言,让其他焦急等待的人多一些信息。
也希望版主大力支持少数的外科申请者。在此一并感谢所有回帖和看贴的同志!
I am updating this thread regularly below.
Till Nov 1,
Interviews:
0
Rejects:
Spartanburg Regional Medical Center
Carilion Clinic
Swedish Medical Center in Seattle
Ohio State University Hospital
Abington Memorial Hospital
Palmetto Health / University of South Carolina
Lankenau Medical Center Program
University of Texas Medical Branch
Oregon Health & Science University
Bronx-Lebanon Hospital
New York Presbyterian Hospital Columbia Campus
Bassett Medical Center
Marshall University's Joan C.Edwards School of Medicine
Sinai hospital, Baltimore
University Hospital/University of Cincinnati College of Medicine
Providence Hospital and Medical Centers
Florida Hospital
University of Arizona
University of Chicago
Dartmouth-Hitchcock medical center
Texas A&M-Scott&White
University of Virginia
m*******1
发帖数: 328
48
顶,第一次看到Lady这么热衷GS....GREAT!
a******a
发帖数: 146
49
1 rej
Thank you for your interest in the general surgery residency program at
Spartanburg Regional Medical Center. After careful review of your
application, I regret to inform you that we are unable to extend an
invitation to interview for a position in our program.
I wish you well in your residency search and hope you match in a suitable
program.
Sincerely,
Charles E. Morrow, MD, FACS
Program Director
General Surgery Residency
Spartanburg Regional Medical Center
h**h
发帖数: 262
50
rej: Carilion Clinic
相关主题
Preliminary Impression on Yale Surgery关于preliminary and categorical IM
大家知道international fellowship program吗?Anybody wants to match surgery?
求外科申请相关的信息,讨论和同仁请问surgery-preliminary 第二年如何安排啊?
进入MedicalCareer版参与讨论
i*******r
发帖数: 23
51
same here!
rej from Carilion Clinic
s*********s
发帖数: 85
52
I rejction from swidish hospital,
Carilion Clinic
OSUH
m******l
发帖数: 38
53
Thank you yanjun.
Do you mean Swedish Medical Center in Seattle, and Ohio State University
Hospital?

【在 s*********s 的大作中提到】
: I rejction from swidish hospital,
: Carilion Clinic
: OSUH

s*********s
发帖数: 85
54
yes
s*********s
发帖数: 85
55
IT seems you know me, who are you
m******l
发帖数: 38
56
LOL, it's your ID. But I'd like to know you. Thank you for the clarification.

【在 s*********s 的大作中提到】
: IT seems you know me, who are you
s*********s
发帖数: 85
57
my skype : shiyanjunss
s*********s
发帖数: 85
58
New rejection from Abington Memorial Hospital. a acknowlegement letter from
Medstar washington
m******l
发帖数: 38
59
Just got 1st rejection from Ohio State University. Fellows, let's keep this
thread going. Please drop a line if you have any invites/rejections.
h**h
发帖数: 262
60
Rej from Ohio state university.
相关主题
PS FOR PRELIMINARY specialtyWho is a real Old FMG?
写一个什么样的外科ps我是怎样成功scramble的
Competition increase in US residency matchacne: [合集] 和内科比起来,prelim IM面试有什么不同?
进入MedicalCareer版参与讨论
r*********2
发帖数: 20
61
Reject from Carilion Clinic too
m******l
发帖数: 38
62
Rejection from Palmetto Health / University of South Carolina School of
Medicine and Lankenau Medical Center Program.
m******l
发帖数: 38
63
Thank you regalgs2012.

【在 r*********2 的大作中提到】
: Reject from Carilion Clinic too
h**h
发帖数: 262
64
Rej from UTMB
m******l
发帖数: 38
65
rej from Oregon Health & Science University and Bronx-Lebanon Hospital.
h**h
发帖数: 262
66
OREGON HEALTH & SCIENCE UNIVERSITY
DEPARTMENT OF SURGERY
GENERAL SURGERY RESIDENCY
Our application requirements for 2013-2014 are:
● An ERAS application
● A personal photograph
● A personal statement
● A Dean’s Letter with a transcript
● Two letters of recommendation (more can be submitted, but only 2
required)
● Official USMLE Scores, Part I (cutoff is 200 to be considered). We do
not accept scores from other types of exams.
● If you have had previous training, send letters of recommendation from
the Program Director(s) of your first postgraduate year and any subsequent
residency training.
● Foreign Medical Graduates must submit proof of ECFMG-Certification (
unless they are graduating in June 2013). No prior American experience is
required. We do not sponsor any types of visas. As an FMG your chances of
getting an interview in our program are very small unless you know or have
worked with someone in our institution. We have hundreds of qualified FMGs
apply each year, only a handful of applicants obtain an interview and these
are normally people we know. You might do better applying to programs who
take more FMGs.
You can find more information about our program on our website at:
http://www.ohsu.edu/ohsuedu/academic/som/surgery/divisions/gene
For further information please contact the Residency Coordinator at altonr@
ohsu.edu, or call (503)494-4936.
Robin Alton
Education Manager
Department of Surgery
Oregon Health & Science University
m******l
发帖数: 38
67
Hi hszh, did you get a rejection from OREGON HEALTH & SCIENCE as well?
This statement really drove me nuts. -We have hundreds of qualified FMGs
apply each year, only a handful of applicants obtain an interview and these
are normally people we know.

【在 h**h 的大作中提到】
: OREGON HEALTH & SCIENCE UNIVERSITY
: DEPARTMENT OF SURGERY
: GENERAL SURGERY RESIDENCY
: Our application requirements for 2013-2014 are:
: ● An ERAS application
: ● A personal photograph
: ● A personal statement
: ● A Dean’s Letter with a transcript
: ● Two letters of recommendation (more can be submitted, but only 2
: required)

h**h
发帖数: 262
68
this is the contact email before I applied. I did not apply there. I just
remind that this program only accepts FMG they know.
h**h
发帖数: 262
69
Rejection: New York Presbyterian Hospital Columbia Campus
u*******8
发帖数: 497
70
Ohio State University对华人留学生据说还很nice,但是hospital对华人申请者就不
Nice来哦
相关主题
acne: [合集] 和内科比起来,prelim IM面试有什么不同?-------IVs and Rejections for 2011 Match-------
跟老板摊牌了,请大家看看怎么办好,谢谢我来开一个病理 IV 和 Rej 的主题吧
IMG friendly states and specialty关于申请同一个 Internal Medicine Program Categorical and Preliminary
进入MedicalCareer版参与讨论
s*********e
发帖数: 100
71
Rejection from Bassett Medical Center
r*********2
发帖数: 20
72
Rejection from Marshall University's Joan C.Edwards School of Medicine.
h**h
发帖数: 262
73
Rej: Sinai hospital, Baltimore
a***r
发帖数: 2677
74
I got same last yr. haha.
失节夷齐下首阳,院门推出太凄凉。头上打歪新结束,胸中惊乱旧文章。朝来饱饭周家
粟,暮去仍炊仲子粮。从今决意还山去,薇蕨堪嗟已吃光。

【在 r*********2 的大作中提到】
: Rejection from Marshall University's Joan C.Edwards School of Medicine.
h**h
发帖数: 262
75
Rej:niversity Hospital/University of Cincinnati College
m******l
发帖数: 38
76
rej from Providence Hospital and Medical Centers.
c******s
发帖数: 5583
77
add oil.
very competitive recent 2,3 years. Lots of applicants all over the country.
m******l
发帖数: 38
78
rej from Florida Hospital
n*****1
发帖数: 17
79
rejection from university of chicago
m******l
发帖数: 38
80
Rej from University of Arizona
相关主题
既然各位前辈都在, 能不能科普一下prelim surgery大家知道international fellowship program吗?
About anesthsiology application?求外科申请相关的信息,讨论和同仁
Preliminary Impression on Yale Surgery关于preliminary and categorical IM
进入MedicalCareer版参与讨论
h**h
发帖数: 262
81
Rej:Dartmouth-Hitchcock medical center
Rej: Texas A&M-Scott&White
Rej:University of Virginia
h**h
发帖数: 262
82
Rej:University of Virginia
n*****1
发帖数: 17
83
每年, 除了有CONNECTION 的, 有MATCH 上外科的吗? 这么久还没有一个INTERVIEW
。。 灰心中。。。
h**h
发帖数: 262
84
我也觉得没有关系根本进不了,即使考分很高也难。prelimposition很多都不参加
match,好像是留给没match上的amg的,然后剩余的给img。
m******l
发帖数: 38
85
Hang in there, guys. Don't give up yet. According to IMGs who matched last
yr, their interviews actually came in mid Nov.
m******l
发帖数: 38
86
rej from Emory University, College of Medicine Mayo Clinic (Rochester)
Program, Abington Memorial Hospital Program, Charleston Area Medical Center/
West Virginia University
s*********e
发帖数: 100
87
rej prel
Bronx Lebanon Hospital
m******l
发帖数: 38
88
rej from University of Pennsylvania.
h**h
发帖数: 262
89
Rejs:Virginia Commonwealth University Medical Center
UC San Diego Medical Center
Harlem Hospital Center
Thomas Jefferson University Hospital
d********r
发帖数: 9331
90
不开胡?
IV: University of Miami, Preliminary (categorical已经悲剧了)
相关主题
Anybody wants to match surgery?写一个什么样的外科ps
请问surgery-preliminary 第二年如何安排啊?Competition increase in US residency match
PS FOR PRELIMINARY specialtyWho is a real Old FMG?
进入MedicalCareer版参与讨论
d********r
发帖数: 9331
91
懂行的说说到底有没有必要进PRELIM SURGERY。 有人说进了更糟糕, 就像小妾永远转
不了正, 还有人说PRELIM是进不了OR的, 就是管病房。
申请了16个学校, 收到了10个据的, 就一个是只IV PRELIM的, 我在考虑去不去,
好像没啥意思。
d********r
发帖数: 9331
92
在PubMed找到这篇文章, 80% prelim转到了catagorical, 说不定也可以试试prelim.
Selection, Mentorship, and Subsequent Placement of Preliminary Residents
Without a Designated Categorical Position in an Academic General Surgery
Residency Program
Presented at the APDS Annual Meeting.
Paul Montero, MD, Robert Powell, MD, Claire M. Travis, MBA, Mark R. Nehler,
MD
Department of Surgery, University of Colorado-Denver, Aurora, Colorado
published online 31 May 2012.
Abstract Full Text PDF Images References
Background
Academic general surgery residency programs face a reduction in clinical
hours for residents at a time of expanding educational material/clinical
programs. To meet these challenges, clinical staffing includes additional
faculty, physician extenders, or additional residents. Categorical resident
expansion is difficult but there is an ample pool of preliminary first year
resident (R1) candidates every match week, and this pool is projected to
increase markedly as all medical schools have increased enrollment without
any real change to the demographics of available categorical residency
positions. Our experience with preliminary R1s without a designated
categorical position over the last 8 academic years forms the basis of this
report.
Methods
The University of Colorado-Denver general surgery residency program recruits
8-12 preliminary R1s annually. Most of these are recruited on scramble day,
as we found that having individual interview dates for these positions was
labor-intensive and did not yield better candidates. Preliminary R1s were
mentored in a systematic fashion by the program during the year to focus on
career planning. Files for preliminary R1s were reviewed for demographics,
medical school of origin, original prematch career goal, successful
completion of the intern year, and subsequent categorical residency
placement/type.
Results
We recruited 64 preliminary R1s without a designated categorical position
over the past 8 years (16 females and 48 males) with an average age of 30
years old (range 25-45 years). These preliminary R1s attended medical
schools throughout the United States (West 24, South 18, Central 11,
Northeast 4, or International 7). The average United States Medical
Licensing Examination (USMLE) Step 1 test score was 213 (range 185-252). The
majority (95%) completed their preliminary year of training or left for a
categorical position during the year. Most preliminary R1s (79%) were
successfully placed into categorical training programs at the end of the
year, with 23% ultimately receiving categorical training at our institution.
Four did not complete their preliminary training year due to medical leave
or unsatisfactory performance. The categorical positions preliminary R1s
obtained include general surgery (n = 7, 15%), surgical subspecialties (n =
31, 65%), and nonsurgical subspecialties (n = 10, 20%). Ultimately, 14 (29%)
of preliminary R1s who matched after 1 year did so in their fields of
original interest.
Conclusions
A symbiotic relationship can exist between a general surgery residency
program and preliminary R1s. An approach that focuses on scramble day
recruitment, frequent mentorship meetings, and an active role in secondary
placement results in successful placement into categorical positions for the
vast majority. In that regard, we would argue that we have provided equal
career mentorship to these graduated students in comparison with their
medical schools of origin.
m******l
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rej from University of Kentucky
m******l
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94
Hello dealseaker,
Congrats on the interview invite.
Would you like to post the program name here? Any experience you'd like to
share with us?

【在 d********r 的大作中提到】
: 懂行的说说到底有没有必要进PRELIM SURGERY。 有人说进了更糟糕, 就像小妾永远转
: 不了正, 还有人说PRELIM是进不了OR的, 就是管病房。
: 申请了16个学校, 收到了10个据的, 就一个是只IV PRELIM的, 我在考虑去不去,
: 好像没啥意思。

d********r
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university of Miami.

【在 m******l 的大作中提到】
: Hello dealseaker,
: Congrats on the interview invite.
: Would you like to post the program name here? Any experience you'd like to
: share with us?

c******s
发帖数: 5583
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80%? I don't believe a word of it.
Prelim surgery is the most malignant, labor-heavy residency position among
all.
-You are free labor. You do all the dirty work,floor work.
-You will never go into the OR as a prelim intern.
-No guarantee for anything.
-I know people who did 3 year prelim surgery and still no categorical spot
available.
(This is strictly referring to people who wants categorical surg spot, not
people who will be going into specialties as PGY-2,like radio,anesthesia,PMR
, etc...)
I would only do it if the program has tendency taking prelim into
categorical.
Technically, you don't have to "match" into prelim. There will be a lot
prelim position available for you to scramble after match
d********r
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97
你自己试过没有? 去年Scramble Day出来的Prelim大概80个, 没有几个给了没有iv
过的人, 所以也没有你说的这么不堪。
我列的数据只来自ohio的一家教学医院, 数据不全但是非常准确。

PMR

【在 c******s 的大作中提到】
: 80%? I don't believe a word of it.
: Prelim surgery is the most malignant, labor-heavy residency position among
: all.
: -You are free labor. You do all the dirty work,floor work.
: -You will never go into the OR as a prelim intern.
: -No guarantee for anything.
: -I know people who did 3 year prelim surgery and still no categorical spot
: available.
: (This is strictly referring to people who wants categorical surg spot, not
: people who will be going into specialties as PGY-2,like radio,anesthesia,PMR

m******l
发帖数: 38
98
Is that University of Miami Miller School of Medicine/Palm Beach Regional
Campus Program?

【在 d********r 的大作中提到】
: university of Miami.
d********r
发帖数: 9331
99
no, it is Jackson.

【在 m******l 的大作中提到】
: Is that University of Miami Miller School of Medicine/Palm Beach Regional
: Campus Program?

h**h
发帖数: 262
100
I agree with you.
-You are free labor. You do all the dirty work,floor work.
it depends on programs
-You will never go into the OR as a prelim intern.
depends on programs
-No guarantee for anything.
True! very few people get in surgical categorical position. it had better to
consider other specialties at the same time
-I know people who did 3 year prelim surgery and still no categorical spot
available
True! If you are young and have GC, you may have opportunity to get in
categorical spot.

PMR

【在 c******s 的大作中提到】
: 80%? I don't believe a word of it.
: Prelim surgery is the most malignant, labor-heavy residency position among
: all.
: -You are free labor. You do all the dirty work,floor work.
: -You will never go into the OR as a prelim intern.
: -No guarantee for anything.
: -I know people who did 3 year prelim surgery and still no categorical spot
: available.
: (This is strictly referring to people who wants categorical surg spot, not
: people who will be going into specialties as PGY-2,like radio,anesthesia,PMR

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d********r
发帖数: 9331
101
所以你的意思也是进Prelim不如不进? 问题是不进也没有希望, 进了至少是份工作。

to

【在 h**h 的大作中提到】
: I agree with you.
: -You are free labor. You do all the dirty work,floor work.
: it depends on programs
: -You will never go into the OR as a prelim intern.
: depends on programs
: -No guarantee for anything.
: True! very few people get in surgical categorical position. it had better to
: consider other specialties at the same time
: -I know people who did 3 year prelim surgery and still no categorical spot
: available

h**h
发帖数: 262
102
我觉得prelim应该是最后的选择,除非你非外科不做。如果年轻有绿卡,值得一试,否
则趁早转到其他专业。当然如果没有其他的offer, prelim is better than nothing.
r*********2
发帖数: 20
103
rej:East Tennessee State University
m******l
发帖数: 38
104
Do you mean Jackson Memorial Hospital/Jackson Health System Program in Miami
? It's confusing.

【在 d********r 的大作中提到】
: no, it is Jackson.
d********r
发帖数: 9331
105
yes.

Miami

【在 m******l 的大作中提到】
: Do you mean Jackson Memorial Hospital/Jackson Health System Program in Miami
: ? It's confusing.

L********8
发帖数: 248
106
A new policy from ACGME took effect this July strictly limited intern duty
hour <16 hrs/day and <80 hrs/week. And intern can not independently take in-
house call. These changes remarkably reduced surgery internz (including
preliminary intern) work loads. More AMGs consider surgery preliminary due
to these change this year.
So congratulations to Dealseaker for this interview chance! Suggest you to
search how many preliminary spots they offer. The more preliminary spots
they offer, the more competitive to get in categorical spots at the same
program, the more efforts you need to put to thrive among your peers.
Best luck to you!
m******l
发帖数: 38
107
热烈欢迎Lancet前辈指导!

in-

【在 L********8 的大作中提到】
: A new policy from ACGME took effect this July strictly limited intern duty
: hour <16 hrs/day and <80 hrs/week. And intern can not independently take in-
: house call. These changes remarkably reduced surgery internz (including
: preliminary intern) work loads. More AMGs consider surgery preliminary due
: to these change this year.
: So congratulations to Dealseaker for this interview chance! Suggest you to
: search how many preliminary spots they offer. The more preliminary spots
: they offer, the more competitive to get in categorical spots at the same
: program, the more efforts you need to put to thrive among your peers.
: Best luck to you!

h**h
发帖数: 262
108
New surgical residency program
https://apds.org/education-careers/open-positions/#job1839
do not participate in NRMP
d********r
发帖数: 9331
109
没有推荐信, 没戏, 算了。

【在 h**h 的大作中提到】
: New surgical residency program
: https://apds.org/education-careers/open-positions/#job1839
: do not participate in NRMP

l********n
发帖数: 182
110
Surgery is so tough.
I was intended to go for Surgery when I done my elective in General Surgery,
but finally not decided to apply.
Good luck guys!
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