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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Tue Mar 25 22:35:47 2014, 美东) 提到:
Background: 去年因为各种原因，麦地有点萧条，作为申请人不见好贴心里不免焦虑。
就在此环境中，几位既往study partner组了个pathology iv group。宗旨：此群不练
习iv，只用于定期交流各pg面试情况。
Material and Method: skype group, 不定期组会。
Result: 小组共15名成员，8名match path，4名match IM。
Conclusion: 虽然当年麦地求助无门，却发现4～7年前各位前辈热心的面经分享，受益
无穷，给面试增添不少信心。遂鼓动小组全体成员，独乐乐不如众乐乐，为2015申请
path童鞋鼓鼓气。
P.S: 个人能力有限，此贴分享仅供参考，不负责信息正确度。
我们也仅将所知晓信息共享，拒绝私下联系。
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Tue Mar 25 22:37:36 2014, 美东) 提到:
先耐心等下，回去翻note～～
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molsoncheng (molsoncheng) 于 (Tue Mar 25 22:46:51 2014, 美东) 提到:
Really well said. A couple of my thoughts regarding pathology application:
Before start application,---what's your "selling point" ?
For instance, do you have high USMLE scores? Do you graduate from "big name
schools or research groups" ? are you doing some fashion pathology related
research? Do you have publications with high quality o quantity? Are you
studying some unique diseases or using special pathology related methods /
protocols? Do you have a lot of clinical experience ? Are you really "good
looking"? Or" bad looking "? Find your"uniqueness", expand it with specific
examples or numbers. This can be used in your PS and more importantly you
need this to impress your interviewer and stand out among all interviewees
during all the whole interviews.
Next, why pathology ? Everybody says that he really loves pathology, why
should believe your story ? Of course, this is a tricky question, which
however you will be asked for sure. Again, It 's related to your "own
experience" and it definitely does not have a standard answer. However, at
least you need to know something about pathology before you " really love
path ", right? A short term OB may be good enough, a lengthy clinical path
in China is great; A translational research or cooperation with pathologist
at least can tell you something about pathology; Or maybe you or your friend
used to benefit from some pathologist's outstanding work...... Before you
make your answer, chat with 5 different people and ask how they feel your
passion.
Then, why this specific program? We all know we have to apply more than 50
PGs to secure a position and we DO have specific reasons to apply for most
programs. Because, there must be something in common between you and PG, so
let's find it. Do you or your recommenders happen to know someone in this PG
? Do you have interest in the fellowship in this PG ? Have you used to be in
this city? Do you like the sports/ weather here ? You know they are doing
something great, actually you are planning to learn this new stuff? ....
Before you make your answer, ask 5 different persons about this program,
they may offer you something more interesting.
Be prepared, be strong, wish the best. Just do not give up.
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JennyGao424 (Jenny) 于 (Tue Mar 25 22:48:32 2014, 美东) 提到:
太好了！我也慢慢把我的面试情况写写
name
specific
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Wed Mar 26 01:46:33 2014, 美东) 提到:
1st path iv: SUNY@ Downstate, Brooklyn, NY
SUNY@ Downstate不是第一个path iv，之所以放第一个面，是因为听说可能会给先卖。
虽然已有几个IM iv经验，听了前辈教导，感觉path interviewer会非常熟悉偶们的材
料，偶尔还会聊research。作为第一个path，当然不敢轻举妄动。甚至都准备了one
page research summary.就差没有project presentation～
住宿&交通：
Recommend a home hotel in Brooklyn Chinatown: it was clean, around $40/day,
you just have to share the bathroom with other guests. Address: 675 60 St,
brooklyn, Tel: 6462800085. (嘉兴旅馆).
交通建议适用public transportation：
http://tripplanner.mta.info/MyTrip/ui_web/customplanner/trippla
Or take taxi: 新金马电招车（仅限Flushing出车）；该家庭旅馆提供电招车服务。
Pg info:
http://www.mitbbs.com/pc/pccon_2289_107003.html
此pg是老刀推荐CMG friendly pg，确实进网页看到不少CMG resident，但最近两年CMG
比例下降，不明缘由。只是与我同天面试candidates, YOG<10yr,可能原因之一。和我
一起面的五位童鞋里，一位不鸣则已，一鸣惊人的韩国MM，YOG 9, double 240+, 韩国
完成path residency training， 现在FL作postdoc，几乎拿遍了FL所有path pg iv，
当时已拿到9个path iv，大牛级别；一位叙利亚小男生，YOG 2, 长得瘦高，披着长发
，一脸艺术家气息，后来午餐时请住院医参加他在Central Park的concert， 一开始高
谈大论对molecular pathology感兴趣，可当已经卖到molecular fellow的chief
resident告诉他以前在NIH做分子研究的经历时，他连NIH是啥都不知道。。。我当时汗
颜，千万别在面试时不懂装懂，以为自己时尚学术噶～～一位加勒比来的印巴裔男生，
fresh grad; 一位智利熟女，YOG 6,LG在NYC住院医快毕业，到该pg面试的唯一原因就
是location，她很容易亲近，跟偶混得不错，面试结束还依依惜别～
该pg不提供breakfast，请注意！
过程和前辈帖子相似。一开始所有住院医齐坐，morning report，结束后时间有余，
chief让偶们自由提问，因此多了解了些pg info. 接着面试开始。
PC是一位senior EdD，4～5年前来到该pg，基本承担PD重任。
第一位是位Hematopath attending, 看上去平易近人。刚见面不等我提问，她就迫不及
待抛出pg特点。面试过程中她因为tumor board consult接了个电话，这时间也算在偶
的iv里。聊的内容依稀记得她做血液病理，就把我血液科轮转的情况分享下；她正和
microbiology dept合作搞某种parasite研究，我就把老板有趣的microfilariae-
induced blindness研究分享下，她饶有兴趣地附和；最后我居然现买现卖地把面试前
一晚刚记的case presentation搬出来，寓意path对pt care重要性，她也附和。总之，
第一个path interviewer让我对病理面试的恐惧感大减，与IM比起来，更有聊天的感觉。
第二位是位CMG attending，刚进门用中文聊了下偶的名字～因为从未用中文练习过iv
，至少不敢临场发挥，还是扳回到English iv. 他是第一位也是唯一一位指出我LOR纰
漏的面试官（我从未看过LOR），也是第一位回复偶Thank you note的面试官，给偶很
大的鼓励。面试内容主要根据他的专长，我的专长，聊了些AP/NP pg,还有些大家都认
识的neuropathalogist. 我呢，乘机学习了neuropath，不少收获。对了，他们chair就
是neuropath，虽然没面，但抓住她出来见下一位candidate间歇卖了点我的科研和五年
计划，她欣然与偶握手道别。
然后午饭时间，resident开开心心地结伴参与，最后不得不在拥挤的食堂拼起两张大桌
子，可见they have happy residents that are willing to share.
第三位是SP元老，因刚从VA转来，pg员工都对她不熟悉。运气好在午饭时边上的PGY－2
是位强悍的菲律宾住院医，在国内已完成path residency。因为同一地方来，这位住院
医给了我一些面试官信息。其实她是位和蔼可亲的“邻家外婆”级别的SP元老，临床经
验极其丰富。因为我现在最熟悉也最想做的就是surgical oncology,就拉着她了解pg
SP各种情况，她也饶有兴趣地耐心解答。
我的三个面试都是PC敲门后结束出来的。
最后PC代替PD向我们五人介绍pg各种信息，Brooklyn life& housing，还特别强调住院
医优厚待遇，当成吸引偶们的一个方面。PC人很好，结束后特地应那位叙利亚男生要求
带我们看了SUNY@ Downstate学校宿舍，还将我们每个人送到车站。
有一点我过很久以后发现：虽然PD有较长时间不在pg，都由PC主持面试，但residency
pg还有一位年轻attending(Cytopath)参与，而且当天参加面试。他人应该很nice，所
有candidate都是与他聊到PC忍无可忍两次三番敲门才终于出来的。弄得偶在外面羡慕
不已。他最终也跟我热情握手打招呼。
今年是pg小年，仅招三人，从400 applicant挑了50人面试。在1月底走了先卖。
Pg优点是地理位置好，年轻人抢着去。CP很强。Fellowship都去NYC，UPenn等名校，工
作据说好找。缺点个人感觉住院医工作条件欠缺，AP房间比较小，刚配备人手一台电脑。
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Wed Mar 26 01:48:22 2014, 美东) 提到:
这个pg特点就是Neuropath (AP/NP pg), CP强。Dermpath和其他医院合作弄了个
fellowship
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Wed Mar 26 01:49:12 2014, 美东) 提到:
这个速度不行啊～～以后要加紧写重点，不像写小说一样罗嗦了～～
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Istart (Summer) 于 (Wed Mar 26 09:31:52 2014, 美东) 提到:
写得太好了，非常感谢！！！
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iamreallybad (我是Jeff) 于 (Wed Mar 26 10:25:06 2014, 美东) 提到:
我的1st Pathology IV: BHS
今年很多的CMG都拿到这里的面试，简单说一下：
1. PG概况：
1).位于birmingham,AL，规模相对较小，每年招2-3个，两个教学医院，以培养
community pathologists为目标；
2).IMG所占比例不小，因为前几届都招了CMG，而且表现出色，故对CMG比较
friendly；
3).PG里的resident有一些特殊福利如就餐等；
4).提供免费住宿，所提供的hotel不错；
2. Interview及注意事项：
1).在这里interveiw的时候和resident呆在一起的时间更多，如果能掌握一些
resident的背景，会让交谈更顺利；而且，在这个PG制定rank list的时候，residents
的意见也很重要，所以要在和residents互动上下一些功夫。
2). 一般有4个attending，包括PD和/或副PD，参加面试，由于他们很忙，所以一般
面试时间较短，只有10-15分钟。
3). 面试会在两个医院里进行，中间需要坐resident车去另一个医院，要走一些路。
4). 面试者都很nice，因为他们的目标是培养community pathologists，所以千万
别提research，要强调你就是要solid pathology training。
目前只能想到这么多，希望这些信息对后面的同学有帮助。
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pusher (拓荒者) 于 (Wed Mar 26 10:32:36 2014, 美东) 提到:
谢谢分享啊，翻了翻贴子，不知道美女最终卖到病理还是内科了？也很好奇想知道你的
CREDENTIALS，让偶们景仰一番呀
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dikki (jie2011) 于 (Wed Mar 26 10:35:08 2014, 美东) 提到:
写得太好了！读着有身临其境的感觉啊!
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duckweed (duckweed(麦地浮萍)) 于 (Wed Mar 26 10:36:56 2014, 美东) 提到:
期待中，写的很详细。
molsoncheng的字字如金，反复品味
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negitla (温柔的灌) 于 (Wed Mar 26 11:08:11 2014, 美东) 提到:
太好了，谢谢rhcrc11
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GoUSMLE2011 (Tony) 于 (Wed Mar 26 11:23:49 2014, 美东) 提到:
写得太好了，非常感谢rhcrc11, iamreallybad
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cynthiadodo (云淡风轻) 于 (Wed Mar 26 12:41:07 2014, 美东) 提到:
mm 写得好详细阿，赞一个 :-)
我也被这家面了，补充几点吧。参加了他们早晨的case report presentation, the
chair gave many good suggestions on the presentation skills
for residents. The chief resident is a CMG who's pretty and nice:-) PD said
writing ability is very important. They also have AP/NP training track in
addition to traditional AP/CP.
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ravecat (八三年的赵英俊) 于 (Wed Mar 26 12:54:00 2014, 美东) 提到:
有点震惊了
居然连NIH都不知道？
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Wed Mar 26 14:54:28 2014, 美东) 提到:
因为面了两家非大众情人pg，主要任务将这两家向大家介绍。决定走Jeff精简路线。我
们的Molsoncheng是对path非常有经验有头脑的parnter，大家好好学学。
UAMS(LR, Arkansas)：
This is a new IMG-friendly pg that I strongly recommend to everyone. As they
changed a new PD, who came from Lebanon, 3yrs ago, and since then, they are
recruiting increasing amount of IMG residents (before that only AMG
graduated from Central US med school were occupying all the positions). They
would even recruit one IMG resident who graduate >10yrs annually, although
they definitely prefer young graduates. So whatever conditions you are,
consider this pg.
I love this pg. They are very friendly and generous. The friendliest IM pg
to me was Rochester General. Both of the pg offer pre-iv dinner, free hotel,
and provided transportation throughout the iv day. UAMS even ask their
residents to drive the candidates to the dinner& airport, to offer the
candidates more time to chat with residents. You can imagine how nice and
friendly they were. One extra thing, the free hotel is the best hotel I have
ever lived~~a huge suite, which distracted me a lot from iv preparation~~
On the iv day, they asked 10 candidates with lower frequency to host iv,
which is quite efficient. We initially gathered in the department library,
and we were given the opportunity to talk with the faculty and residents
freely. Since I was quite familiar with my interviewer’s info, I happen to
talk with one new faculty, who graduated from India and did residency in
this pg, and published 7 papers during his PGY-3&4. I asked him how could he
be so productive and energetic, and he happily talked with me, which
continued till our interview.
After morning report, we enjoyed a long hospital trip. Their department
environment is the best one I have ever known, quite neat and tidy, fully-
equipped, huge space. They held the iv in the same way as CS exam (actually
in the med school CS exam rooms~~), the difference was that we candidates
stayed in the same room while interviewers took turns to interview us. Very
effective.
I interviewed with 6 interviewers.
1st interviewer was an CMG physician from VA hospital. I heard from my
study partner that he was not involved in any iv this yr, so it is one way
to show the pg’s friendliness. He was very nice to introduce their pg to me
; also shared with me how to make J1 waiver. He even asked me some pathology
questions, which was not that horrible to me. Finally, he strongly
recommended me to rank their pg high. He sent me a long reply to my Thank
You Note, which gave me lots of encouragement. Although I did not get any
chance to talk with him any more, I intrinsically thank him for his support
and encouragement.
2nd interviewer was a professor& Director of Molecular path. He became very
interested when I asked him questions about molecular path (MM study), how
to control a clinical lab. From him, I learned how to do lab management,
which becomes a heated point in CP RISE exams. Our conversation ended
quickly through my questions and his sharing.
3rd interviewer was a nice lady. She is a new faculty who graduated from
hematopath in the pg. She introduced hematopath training to me. She also
told me a tip: all the cards sent to interviewers would be collected and put
in my profile~~so nice to have her as an interviewer
We had lunch in a median-sized meeting room. I talked with some candidates,
and some senior residents. The most fortunate thing was that a new faculty
who did his residency& fellowship@ CCF, shared with me his experience@ CCF,
and how did he get his current job. He got some funding, and was doing
exactly the same lab work that I have been doing in the past few years.
Although he was not my interviewer, I became very excited about the
potential opportunity here.
4th interviewer: resuming the conversation with the Indian faculty. He told
me to be open-minded during pathology training& making plans; also looking
for a career that is new& could be the direction for pathology. As to renal
pathology, he taught me to get clinical experience, so I can have an idea of
how to make step-by-step Dx. I was highly inspired by this interviewer
throughout the day. I wonder if everyone can be so energetic and creative as
he does, how can it be so difficulty for pathology graduates to find a job?
Well, it’s only my guessing~~
5th interviewer was the chief resident, who had been in Arkansas, or
probably this pg for >10yr. She gave my detailed introduction of the pg to
me, and answered every question efficiently. I like her~~
6th interview was PD. He would make the most important decision. I heard he
is very strict with spoken English, which distracted me from iv preparation
beforehand. He actually was a nice person. He told me, every candidate in
his pg reached the requirement of being smart and working hard. So what he
really cared during iv was whether the candidate has a good personality (
good communication skills& good English, in my opinion). He gave me the info
about the pg from a generous perspective: such as the didactic, fellowship,
et al. Not a lot of chemistry, but I don’t think my English failed me.
Pg advantage:
1. Very supportive hospital environment; friendly & generous program;
Excellent faculty group, very energetic and passionate, with experience both
in clinic & research, open-minded
2. Hospital is famous for MM (Multiple myeloma clinic), so their
hemotopath is very strong; Balanced AP/CP training. Resident graduate go to
diverse fellowship specialties.
3. Lots of fellowship positions (currently 5 specialties, and gonna open
3 more)
4. Little Rock is a nice place, with warm winter & humid summer, weather
is similar to Shanghai/Zhejiang; good church; Good Chinese restaurant;
people are warm-hearted
5. Median-large pg, with total 20 slots. 5 positions annually.
6. Excellent didactic: they host daily seminars, which require everyone
to attend. The topics are divided according to systems monthly.
Pg shortcoming:
1. No CMG resident before. Central US hospitals are famous for their
conservative. Even offered iv, the likelihood to get matched is uncertain
at the moment.
2. South people are very lay-back; but physicians are effective
3. Small city& state, not sure about future development~~~
4. They do not offer H1B this year
5. Their website was outdated~~
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Wed Mar 26 14:58:29 2014, 美东) 提到:
面试季结束了，怎么还这么话唠～～后面的面经一定要改作风了。大家将就看，取重点
信息。也请轻拍～
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iUSMLE (I am busy) 于 (Wed Mar 26 15:12:34 2014, 美东) 提到:
此帖经典，字字珠玑，思路清晰。要是能领会每个要点，病理面试应轻松拿下。
赞一下，很久没有这么强贴了
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Wed Mar 26 15:43:19 2014, 美东) 提到:
UH (Honolulu, HI):
I deliberately arranged UH iv as my last one, and it did not fail me. I know
it could be the only place to heal all the stress generated from interview
trips, and the suffering from a long-term pressure. Beach and sunshine have
always kept their charming attraction to me. As one interviewer mentioned:
How
do u deal with stress can determine whether you will choose here or not. If
you would like to drive wildly throughout 5 states, or go shopping for a
whole day, then it is not the right place for you; but if walking around the
seashore in a sunny afternoon, then it is the perfect choice. I had no
doubt to answer this question.
They do not provide hotel, cause they know interviewers would prefer to stay
there longer than the iv day. As Lenny recommended, I asked program to
refer me to University of Hawaii student Dorms, very cheap $28/day single
room, $35/day double room. Also bus there is very convenient. I only stayed
there for 4d, and on my last day, I rent a car, drove around the island, and
enjoyed different types of beaches.
There seemed to be no CMG either as committee member or resident. But they
have high ratio of Asian staffs, mostly grew up in HI, attended med school
in UH, and practiced in HI. I have one thought: because it is such nice
weather here throughout the year, those who have lived &worked here for >
4yrs cannot get used to the bad weather outside the island; so the only
choice for them was to stay here all their life. One thing seems to be
certain, they offer iv to young graduate (<5yr?)
Their pg was quite friendly. I was the only one to be interviewed that day.
A PGY-4 resident who matched to Memorial Sloan-Kettering picked me up from
the dormitory with his shining convertible, and took me around 3 different
hospitals to have the iv. It was the only iv that provided the opportunity
to see all the rotating hospitals. The resident kept on offering the info
about their pg, and the word he used the most to describe their faculty was
“lay-back”. It was my first time to realize this word could enjoy positive
meanings. I had iv with 5 interviewers. PD was not quite talkative, but
from the resident, I know he is very nice person, and very helpful to
residents. The new Chair held the iv with me on the top of the hospital,
under the sunshine; He knew my current pg very well, so our iv was like a
conversation sharing the past and future; He gave me some recommendation to
my research project; He went to northeast China many times to attend
orthopedic international annual meetings, so he could say some Chinese words
. Finally, he taught me how to choose a residency pg: to see whether their
resident are happy. I learned a lot from this distinguished yet kind
pathologist. I also
talked with CP director, Medical Education director, and Ob/Gyn path
director. Only the Ob/Gyn pathologist gave me a 4-question list as a start
of our iv, which were quite difficult. But no worry, he just wanted to
initiate the conversation, and learn about our professionalism& personality;
he won’t give you a difficult time.
Residents in the pg are quite happy and friendly. Housing& gas there is a
bit expensive, but living expense is not as high as I expected. They have 2
big mall, a good Chinatown, and all kinds of Asian food.
Advantage:
1. Friendly pg
2. Great environment to live in Hawaii!!! Love the seashore and the
weather so much!!!
3. Good clinical training. On-call every other day, 2 presentations /3mo.
4. Opportunity to participate in teaching
5. Need to do at least one translation research project during training
6. New Chair is so friendly! He just came to Hawaii last year, who had
been the chair in Mt. Sinai for 10+yrs.
Shortcoming:
1. Typical community affiliated to University; No research opportunity
2. No fellowship offered at the moment
3. Isolated island, with cockroaches everywhere
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Wed Mar 26 16:01:15 2014, 美东) 提到:
偶先分享到这儿，仅供抛砖引玉。静待各位高手出场～～
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heheheII (lalala) 于 (Wed Mar 26 16:10:56 2014, 美东) 提到:
写的太好了，谢谢你们这些过来人给大家铺路。
虽然match越来越难，但是CMG们如果能都像你们一样互帮互助，认真准备，相信慢慢的
会在医疗圈里壮大起来的。
成功是留给有准备的人的。这就话一点没错！
再次感谢！！
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nn928 (baoma) 于 (Wed Mar 26 16:30:39 2014, 美东) 提到:
请问楼主你在第一个面试经中提到的fellow去处中 ,NYC是啥学校.
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Wed Mar 26 16:56:28 2014, 美东) 提到:
不好意思，晚上没写清楚， NYC名校的fellowship
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bymc ((Finally)) 于 (Wed Mar 26 20:58:19 2014, 美东) 提到:
光荣榜上的有位女士有18个面试，厉害得很。基本上美国所有病理系都过了一遍了。
南征北战，经验丰富。哈。。哈。。
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negitla (温柔的灌) 于 (Wed Mar 26 20:59:49 2014, 美东) 提到:
最近忙着step3，所以先相应一下号召，写一个最熟悉的，以后慢慢补上其他的。
USC病理，我就沿用Jeff的精简版吧。
1. pg概况：
1）喜欢AMG，AMG也喜欢LA，所以竞争蛮激烈的
2）虽然是大学pg，但research一般。因为有county hospital所以还比较忙
3）PD是日本人，但听口音应该是美国长大的，很注重regulations，所以人很死板
4）training一般，是普通的attending sign out
2.面试注意事项
1）PD喜欢英文好的，因为面试中他几次提到我的PS和语法都不错（包装的效果Y(^_^)Y）
2）面试的老师都特别好，尤其3个中国老师，有一个后来都主动跟我将中文
3）只是有一个女的attending面试我的时候，总说这个pg很一般，不是很适合我，我应
该去research更好，training更好的pg。当时我挺尴尬的，只能说家庭原因，必须留在
这里之类的糊弄了过去
4）面试的时候不要穿不舒服的鞋子，因为要走不少路，两三个医院来回跑，挺累的
5）包午饭，是和residents 一起吃。这个pg很注重residents的意见，所以尽量和
residents搞好关系。
6）PD和马老师都是有一定决定权的人。
7）面试完，pd喜欢你，会在rank前向你抛橄榄枝
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Wed Mar 26 21:09:53 2014, 美东) 提到:
大赞！希望加州面试的童鞋多来分享下～～好地方啊
)Y）
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Wed Mar 26 21:10:23 2014, 美东) 提到:
把那位女士请出山，一起分享？
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annieyzyz (annie) 于 (Wed Mar 26 21:12:41 2014, 美东) 提到:
你条件很好啊，negitla,也是卖的病理吗？
我觉得有美国PhD，毕业时间在10年或以上的。大多选择了病理。
)Y）
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negitla (温柔的灌) 于 (Wed Mar 26 21:24:12 2014, 美东) 提到:
谢谢，后来去的内科。但是去了10来个病理，不能说有什么特别多的经验，但希望对大
家以后有点帮助。
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janedare2000 (默默行走) 于 (Wed Mar 26 21:46:43 2014, 美东) 提到:
谢谢分享
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jailbreak (biology) 于 (Wed Mar 26 22:11:23 2014, 美东) 提到:
这帖子好啊！
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skypath (天路) 于 (Wed Mar 26 22:46:49 2014, 美东) 提到:
冒个泡，写写pathology program in Michigan. 绝大多数体会是我在经历了match才有
的。
Michigan总共才5个program. 如果说有的地方program会CMG friendly的话，那么
Michigan 的都不属于这个范畴。
1. UM: 牛校，不用说了。据说让人特别喜欢的。只可惜AMG都排队进，IMG几乎没可
能。连面试都没有的。
2. Beaumont: 很好的community hospital。只可惜也是只招AMG。很少CMG能拿到面
试（据说有1-2个CMG在里面，但具体不知）。
3. St. John: community hospital。由于椅子男是中东人，所以只招中东人。不用
想了。这是Michigan唯一给prematch的。
以上3个program，除非你有很强的connection，否则不用考虑了。当然银子多的除外。
4. Henry Ford: 很好的program。据说里面设备很好，只可惜我没去过。如果你背
景很强，是可能拿到面试的，而且它也不会在乎你是从哪个角落来的。
5. DMC/Wayne: 比较累的program。想想那么多sample，才招3个住院医，虽然是好
几个PA，但能不累么？面试的时候，招了一堆AMG，至少50%以上吧。但是由于地理位置
的原因，老美也很少会首选它。然后program里面也经常有加勒比海毕业来实习的。
DMC/Wayne虽然是大学附属的，但是program research的气氛并不强。面试的时候也没
啥特殊的，就是4个attending，每人20分钟。都是闲聊一些基本问题，没有出格的。
这两个program，或多或少还是能给优秀的，或者有connection的人面试的。但能进去
与否就不知道了。
通过面试走一圈，我才越来越认识到CMG团结的必要性。咱不跟AMG争，咱们是跟其他
IMG争。人家一个种族的抱团，再被同种族的椅子男青睐一把，那CMG再强也没用。所以
还是得自己人强大起来。
我的两分钱。
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HoneyAB (AB) 于 (Wed Mar 26 23:11:39 2014, 美东) 提到:
简单介绍一下UoM&ECU,希望有帮助。
UoM:
1有5个面试官（PD，Chairman and 3 faculty）
2这个program的人（attending and resident）都很好，喜欢CMG
3 前一天晚上有饭吃，味道相当不错。
4据PD讲他们病理board passing rate 100%.
5他们对research很感兴趣，会问到你做过的研究。要熟悉自己做过的东西。
ECU:
1有3个面试官（3 faculty）
2这个program的人（attending and resident）都很好，喜欢CMG. PC的微笑好迷人。
3 面试早上在department meeting room有饭吃，好多faculty都会来打个照面。要多准
备点轻松的话题。
4Candidate 分头面试完毕后，会聚到一起。Attending也会来，group interview.这时
要回答好问题，因为attending抛出个问题，每个candidate都要回答的，有比较。不要
紧张，要放松。
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miaomiao2003 (miaomiao2003) 于 (Thu Mar 27 11:54:14 2014, 美东) 提到:
ECU=east carolina Univ, what is UoM?
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bymc ((Finally)) 于 (Thu Mar 27 12:08:40 2014, 美东) 提到:
我觉得有15个以上的面试，和美国应届毕业生申请病理一样，绝对有独到之处，是牛人
。一般人没法比，经验很多，各个program的感觉和得失，都在心中。
他/她们的面经最有价值。
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zhu84518 (Henry) 于 (Thu Mar 27 12:10:42 2014, 美东) 提到:
这个必须顶！
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oldbrother (dead+monkey) 于 (Thu Mar 27 14:02:05 2014, 美东) 提到:
my two cents:
面试的目的是什么？无非就两个： 1. 看你将来是否能干好住院医的活 2. 看你是不适
合跟现在的住院医和医生共事。你要做的无非也就是说服他们：1）你过去现在和将来
都很优秀， 哪怕你第一步考了5次，你还是很优秀，这么多挫折都挺过来了。 2）你对
病理有相当的了解并无限的热爱，哪怕你以前没做过任何和病理相关的事。3）你是活
泼开朗，人见人爱，语言和交流能力非常棒。4）最重要的一点是你完全相信以上三点
，没有丝毫不实或夸张成分在里面。你若自己都不信教人家如何信你？只要你自信，你
表现出来就会不亢不畀，自然得体
University at Buffalo
UB is extremely CMG friendly, most of residents are CMGs. Program is not in
the best tier but training is pretty sound. A lot of training will be done
in Roswell Park cancer center, which in fact more famous than the main
teaching hospital-Buffalo general hospital. The chair was from U Penn and
very famous in the field.
Please just book the hotel the program suggested. They have shuttles for you
from airport and to the hospital. $75 for a huge suite, very nice free
breakfast.
I met 5 interviewers including one Chinese faculty. Two senior female
faculties were very nice and both mainly talked about the shining points in
my CV. For example, one started the conversion with ‘I noticed you had
worked in a homeless shelter for a long time, why did you do that?’. The
surgical path head is from Roswell Park and looked very cool at first. But
that is his personality; he was actually very friendly and did not challenge
me anything. He grew up in Buffalo area, did medical school and residency
somewhere else and came back to work at UB. He shared me a lot about what
fun things you can do in Buffalo.
If there is one thing I can tell you about my UB interview, it would this:
the interview style of PD is very unique!!! She seemed very friendly at the
meeting before the interview starts but very challenging when you interview
with her. She did not talk to me much but just scrutinized my application
and pointed out all the potential drawbacks. We were not having a
conversation, instead, there were just questions and you just gave back your
answers to her. She may ask you about your gap, low scores, test attempts,
lack of clinical experience, too few papers, and application to other
specialty, etc. You have better to prepare well for these challenges.
Finally, she asked me if I have any questions or anything else to say. At
this point, you should not say ‘NO’ although she told us it is OK to say
‘NO’ at the meeting. I told her that although my application may not look
perfect on papers but I really love pathology and are very passionate about
it. Please be aware of PD’s interview style, otherwise, you may feel very
frustrated.
Another thing very unique for UB program is that they actually score you
right after the interviews and decide your position within all applicants of
that day when you are having lunch in another room. So, basically the
ranking has been decided at that day. Only the Chinese faculty answered my
thank-you email and PD did not reply my ranking email either. I received
positive answers from other PDs but they in fact did not take me. I finally
matched to UB. So, do not put too much on anything PD says in email.
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usmlestep123 (zhuzhu) 于 (Thu Mar 27 14:36:13 2014, 美东) 提到:
谢谢！
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Thu Mar 27 15:02:38 2014, 美东) 提到:
不好意思啦，想多说几句：大家从考board到match这么漫长的征程，每个人都有自己独
特的经历和体会，个人感觉最重要的是找到心里的平衡点。Pg喜好我们圈外人难以预料
，可能只有PD心里明白，但我们不能因此被动。这是鼓励小组成员分享面经的原因，提
供客观信息，大家根据自己情况分析申请准备面试。又是老生常谈的一句话：历来都有
拿10＋面试没卖掉，也有拿1个面试成功走人；只是逐年竞争激烈，这个iv security
＃ 从过去的5变成10,现在又成了15。我认识的朋友里，真有数位拿了30＋面试全部参
加的，仅仅因为心里缺乏security，最后也只能卖到一个position. 所以，可以观摩别
人成功的经验，但一定要认识清楚自己的实际情况，主动出击；没有必要套在别人的光
环里，黯淡了自己的闪光点。AMG和我们无法比较，就好像国内高考，北京考生和外省
考生一起报考北大一样；不用说美国，就连我毕业的时候（4年前），我老家三甲医院
第一次实行全市统考，仅面向本市应届毕业生，那些临近城市及历届考生连参加资格都
没，这个能比较吗？另一方面，能卖掉仅说明工作生活上能向前迈进一步，但后面的日
子谁能预料？GYN前辈讲述的故事无疑是很好的鞭策。进了pg，就代表CMG，一定要做好
自己的本分工作，才能survive，甚至表现出色为CMG赢得更多的机会。我去面的ECU就
是一个例子。没必要去看别人，每个人做好自己的工作，愿意出来分享，就是对CMG最
大的支持和鼓励。共勉！
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Thu Mar 27 15:08:53 2014, 美东) 提到:
新斑竹上任后给每个分享的筒子发大包子以示鼓励哈～～
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iUSMLE (I am busy) 于 (Thu Mar 27 15:20:40 2014, 美东) 提到:
病理面试基本上都很relax,一般的程序是（可能次序会有差别）：
1. 在一个会议室里，PD介绍自己的program
2. 住院医生带着参观病理系
3. 和faculty们面试聊天20-30 min
4.午餐，和住院医生聊天0.5-1h?
5.wrap up，面试结束
6.有些地方可能会在正式面试前一天有preinterview dinner
面试过程太重要了，每一个小的细节都会毁人。低调，自信，微笑。每一个面试之前把
program仔细了解，才不会问错问题。面试的过程是让program的人高兴的过程。你让面
试官高兴了，你就也高兴了！第一次见面相亲，谁不喜欢说自己的优点呢？尽量让pg的
人说他们的长处。
面试的服装：女士：黑/灰西装，白/兰/灰衬衫 或者blouse,中低跟黑皮鞋，淡妆，长
发就披肩； 男士：黑/灰西装，衬衫，领带/领结，黑皮鞋.
我买高跟鞋的经验：在6pm上挑了4-5款自己喜欢的样式，结果只有一款特别的舒服，就
像床平底鞋一样疾跑如飞啊。其他的就退回去了，免费的。一般在商场里很难找到合适
的鞋子，网购真的灰常灰常方便。
面试最重要的问题，
1.tell me about your self
2. why pathology,
3. why our program
4.strengthen and weakness
这几个问题，有空的时候就得琢磨怎么回答，很费时间。把自己的前面人生所有的闪光
点用笔记录下来，慢慢理清思路，把自己包装成一个具有几大特点的具有激情的
candidate.一定要好好准备，反复练习。面试的时候，面试官问你乱七八糟的问题，都
要最后被你绕到自己的闪光点上。比如：你父母最近怎样？你回答： very good! 想念
状，父母的闪光点1-2句话blahblah, 我自己也是这样的啊blahblah (重要的是卖自己
）。 千万别花20分钟聊你的父母，那就很失败。
OB：我觉得还是蛮重要的， 但是没有path OB的同学也有先卖，很牛的。
1.到哪里，怎么找OB: 很难找，但也不是不可能。我是家庭主妇，没有任何connection
。当时google了所有提供path OB的program,写信。还有就是见到人就说自己需要OB,只
要一个人愿意帮你，就成了。我老公说没见过我这么脸皮厚的，呵呵。
2.做OB的时候一定要把有意思的病例记下来，面试的时候会被问到interesting case.
3.争取拿到好的推荐信。
4.有了OB可以表明自己对病理非常有兴趣和dedication
想到哪儿就写到哪儿了，没什么条理，希望对大家有帮助并祝好运！！
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Thu Mar 27 17:02:31 2014, 美东) 提到:
很好很细致的分享！谢谢！
回答面试问题要采取主动回到自己闪光点；ob注意点都有同感。很好的补充！
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kymd (KYMD) 于 (Thu Mar 27 22:16:37 2014, 美东) 提到:
Dart mouth medical center，这是我的第一个iv，在十一月初，以前很多人说把自己
最中意的pg要放在4-5 的位置，我今年因为想在1月份之前面完，所以schedule基本是
每周2-3个iv，去了不少城市，很多都是第一次。我对Dart mouth的印象挺好的，我自
我感觉虽然是我的第一个iv，但我面的还行，给自己打7分。后来rank之前program给我
来了封信，说我是很 strong的candidate，要把我rank在top的位置，具体也不得而知
了。
面试的前一天给提供免费hotel，和resident一起吃晚餐，和其中一个resident聊
得很好，又得知他们的chief以前做postdoc的实验室和我们实验室有合作，我还用了他
们实验室的弄出来的老鼠，其实我还很仔细的读过他并列第一作者的一篇文章（很惭愧
，我当时都不知道他是并列第一作者，我只认识第一作者，没有好好做功课）。不管怎
么说，就算是攀上关系了，而且面试时候适时的向faculty提了，有加分。这个program
今年中共面4（？）批，每次10个candidate。
第二天面试，PD是Dr Black，挺nice，首先是和她group interview，5-6个
candidate一起和她面的，她显然很仔细的看过大家的材料了，每人问了一两个问题，
觉得在这个一个group中要shine是比较难的，因为她针对每个人CV轮流提问了不同的问
题，当然可以有机会听听别人是怎么回答了，也挺有意思的。
然后就是和两个faculty 面，因为之前也没有给具体的schedule，当天才知道和哪
个faculty，一个菲律宾的faculty，正好preinterview dinner那个住院医也是菲律宾
的，大大的夸了那个resident，得到肯定，表示要向他学习，做好patient care的同时
，要积极参与写research，那个faculty显然很高兴。
另外一个faculty是oncology方向的，聊得很高兴，重点问了relocation的问题，
表示配偶也能毫无问题，因为这个program虽然不错，但是位于NH的一个滑雪旅游圣地
，离开最近的机场还有1个半小时车程，很多人配偶来了找不到工作，附近基本就他们
一个单位，所以很多AMG不是很愿意，而且这个地方一年中好几个月地上都是冰雪覆盖
的吧。当天面的有一个女生老公在那里做麻醉的住院医，所以人家肯定是首选了。iv末
了该问“do you have any questions?”，问了个不该问的问题，我说昨天在楼下开始
你们内部报纸说拿了NIH 多少个million来搞研究，这个对你们program有啥影响啊？这
个faculty一脸雾水，说她这个不知道，可能还没有release吧。嗨，真是的，这个问题
问chair级别的还差不多，多此一举，画蛇添足啊，呜呜。不过总的来说我对自己的表
现还算满意，觉得之后的iv表现也没有比这个好多少，关键是碰到怎么样的faculty了
，有些faculty我挺喜欢的，也能在和人家聊天中感到他们的反馈。
总之，虽然没有进这个pg，但iv让我有机会去了NH，去看了下东北部的红叶，那是
香山红叶所无法企及的，里头的Pathology没有CMG，但今年邀请了3-4个CMG去iv，人家
比较重视research background，PhD，这个医院非常好漂亮，医院里光线充足，天花板
都是玻璃的，甚至医院里头有travel agency，hehe，光线非常好，设计师是按照mall
的标准来设计的，人家的理念是希望病人“come here to heal, not come to here to
feel sick”。
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trymybest08 (小鱼儿) 于 (Fri Mar 28 10:40:33 2014, 美东) 提到:
先占个坑，忙过这几天，再填坑。 mount siani 的面试
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Fri Mar 28 12:29:20 2014, 美东) 提到:
太好了！鼓励个！
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bymc ((Finally)) 于 (Fri Mar 28 21:48:51 2014, 美东) 提到:
I had a very pleasant interview in ECU pathology too. I agree with HoneyAB,
that the new PC is very charming and warm. She is the kind of person you
want to talk to whenever possible. She's from Oklahoma and moved to
Greenville, North Carolina with her family. She obviously enjoys
the new place, her work and role in the pathology department. This makes me
think that Greenville, NC must be a cool place to live and raise family,
and the department has a very collegial and relax environment.
There is one way to reach Greenville, by a small propeller aircraft from
charlotte, NC, perhaps 5-6 times per day. This reminds me of the deadly
propeller crash in a pacific island several years ago. However, unlike the
pacific island, Greenville lies within plains of tobacco and wheat fields.
"We have everything in Greenville. You can eat and go shopping in all kinds.
But,we have only one in every kind, one in every kind" said Dr.William R.
Oliver, one of prominent forensic pathologists in north Carolina.
One of the unique features in ECU interview is their group interview. When
the day started, we sit in the front of a conference room, facing all
department faculties, residents and staffs. We spoke about ourself and
then they asked questions to each of us. After that, we met with three
faculty members individually. There was a seminar during the lunch time,
given by a radiation oncologist from the UNC on non-small cell lung cancer
treatment, then followed by a consensus sign-out. Before we left, we had a
group interview with the chair and the program director, Dr. Peter J. Kragel
. I feel that he is fairly nice and gentle. He asked each one of us
questions, common questions in general. At the last, he asked us, "How do
you think the seminar ?" Well, nobody answered, so I spoke about the good
part and insufficiencies of the talk. Dr. Kragel gave a supportive and
informative response to my comments. We were then sent back to the hotel
prepaid by the hospital.
"Together We Are Better", says the motto of ECU Brody School of Medicine.
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Sun Mar 30 16:54:08 2014, 美东) 提到:
谢谢分享，很详细！Greenville是北卡东部的一个非常小的城市，几乎所有事情都在
10min车程解决，包括机场。距海及山都1～2hr车距，旅游很爽。Medical center非常
大，统管NC东部。因为remote area的缘故，有机会遇到特别典型的case, 对training
不错。南方人非常热心友善直爽。Resident stippend挺高。不计较学区，不计较城市
小，去那个地儿工作应该很开心。
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me
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ICUSOS (桂花飘香，笛声悠扬) 于 (Sun Mar 30 18:16:42 2014, 美东) 提到:
Thanks
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Wed Apr 9 13:42:55 2014, 美东) 提到:
GX新斑竹上任，给分享的筒子们奖励些包子吧！
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moonflounder (taurus) 于 (Fri Apr 11 08:33:41 2014, 美东) 提到:
来捧个场，说一下去UT southwestern的经历。主要当时家里也有事情，其实准备很不
充分，对program了解不够细致，仅供参考吧。
1。这个地方还是比较好，外国学生可能相对少，但是也有。PD本身说得很好，说
welcome IMG，估计主要是想招research比较好的。面试时也很和蔼可亲，基本就是介
绍推销自己，不怎么问问题。但是最后多半是AMG进去，感觉program和地理位置可能
AMG中也算popular的。
2。系主任会参与对research感兴趣的candidate的面试，会问些基本问题，为什么喜欢
病理，讲讲你的research之类的。
3。副PD一定会面到，取决你是PS写得是偏AP还是CP。CP的副PD人比较酷，直接
challenge，告诉我你怎么说服我你离开临床这么多年，还能胜任我们的工作。如果没
听到直入主题的答案，会直接打断。但是问完这类相关问题，开始闲聊，其实也还是很
和蔼可亲。可能TX人民还是心地善良，民风淳朴。
4。其他面试的人，你可以根据自己喜好挑，他们会之前发信问。我因为实在当时没时
间研究每个faculty，就没选。让他们决定的。后来发现这样就有些被动。还是自己研
究好，自己挑几个面试的人比较好。
希望能给今后XDJM们起到参考作用。
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zhu84518 (Henry) 于 (Fri Apr 11 11:02:54 2014, 美东) 提到:
马上就奖
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rhcrc11 (Rebel) 于 (Fri Apr 11 18:52:11 2014, 美东) 提到:
谢谢分享！大赞Southwest大牛级别面经！
“你怎么说服我你离开临床这么多年，还能胜任我们的工作”，这个不能算特别
challeging。偶在Hawaii也遇到过类似风格的面试官，先摆出几个question list（那
真叫又偏又难的题），好像也不计较你回答是否中意，只要有理有据即可。然后把list
一放，闲聊起来，甚至还颇亲切地主动告诉偶Hawaii travel tips。。。不
professional的部分就不说了。。。
南方人确实淳朴～～都有点说动了，以后fellow会考虑的～～ |
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