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n********5
发帖数: 11
1
我在这里潜水很久,借鉴了很多牛人的学习方法,所以今天决定把自己的考经也写一遍
。初次发帖请大家多多包涵!Sorry for the delay, I have been busy on my
rotations.
我知道班上很多牛人,大家学习也都很努力。我的成绩也不是很好,不想在这里班门弄
斧,只是向大家介绍下我的学习方法。Although my score is not that high,
considering that I only studied for 5 weeks, I think my study method is
pretty efficient. Hopefully, it will be helpful for those who does not have
much time to study.
The only study material I used were: First Aid(FA) 2014, UWorld(UW), Pathoma
and NBME forms. I am a third year medical student in Texas and I only had 5
weeks to study, so using too many resources was not a good idea for me. I
would rather concentrate on a few High Yield resources, finish them, instead
of losing focus on too many different resources.
我把我的学习方法总结为三点:
Concept driven, question based, and group oriented
我用这个方法学习了五个星期左右,达到的效果为:
6/15/2014 Usmle step 1: 258
6/19/2014 Comlex level 1: 800
1. Concept driven
关于第一点,我看到班上大部分人的考经,都是一背书为基础。大部分人都认为把FA背
好是最重要的。我觉得FA是一本很好的书,言简要概地发最重要的知识点都总结出了。
但是我觉得死记硬背并不能达到最好的效果。
我觉得最重要的事要把concept搞清楚. 我只把FA马马虎虎的过了两遍。里面有很多东
西我都背不下来,但是我觉得很多细节都不是很重要,关键是要把大的概念搞清楚,做
到举一反三,活学活用,这样才能考出好的成绩。
USMLE 考的内容非常广泛,所以每个考点都不可能考得太深,要不然的话谁都做不出来
。所以复习的时候一定要把大部分的考点都复习到, 但是每个考点都不要抠得太深,不
要太在意细节,因为考题都不会去考那些非常细的东西。Someone once told me that
USMLE is supposed to be a easy test, I did not believe them, but now, I do.
Because of the broad coverage of material, the question has to be very
simple and straight forward, at least to the people who made those questions
. When you see a question, think about why the author made this question,
what important concept are they trying to test. If you can figure that out,
it becomes very easy.
我有不少同学把整本FA都背下来了但是考试成绩并不是理想。因为他们并没有理解里面
很多东西。That is the beauty of USMLE, it is a test that not only test your
knowledge but more importantly, test your reasoning ability. Some of the
questions on the NBME are pure logic questions; you don’t have to have any
medical background to answer some of those questions.
2. Question Based
关于第二点,我觉得做题是非常重要。我觉得题目可以帮你找到你的弱点,但是更重要
的是,只有做题才能让你对考试出的体型更加熟悉。我把UW 做了两遍。
First pass--72%
Second pass--92%
Several真题和里面的题目几乎一模一样,对我帮助很大。
但是我觉得真正最好的题库是NBME, 因为这些都是真题,虽然在考试的时候不一定会碰
到一模一样的题目,但是最重要的concept都是一样的。我不但做了所有的NBME,还把
每道题都吃透啦,很多concept都考到了。Try not to remember the questions, but
the concepts.
One thing that is very important, I learned from another post, is to
remember the pictures of NBME. They use the same pictures a lot of times,
just asking different questions on it.
Here is my NBME score in Chronological orders
nbme 11—530
nbme 12-- 620
nbme 7---590
nbme 13 -- 650
nbme 15 --610
nbme 16 --670
3. Group Oriented
关于第三点,我觉得有好的一个学习小组还是很好的。我从医学院一年级的时候开始,
就开始和同学一起分组讨论。我觉得自己一个人在家里死读书的时候,很难集中精神而
且很难把要背的东西记住。但是跟同学讨论,把这些概念都用自己的嘴巴说出来解释给
同学听,只要讲一两遍自己就记得牢啦!
特别是在做完了题目以后,在小组里面进行讨论,是效率最高的。几个人咭咭呱呱地一
下子就可以把一套题目里面重要的概念都分析一遍。但是我建议在寻找自己的搭档的时
候,最好找一个和自己水平差不多的,这样学习起来效率才最好。千万不要把自己的搭
档当成竞争对手,最好大家都不要有所保留,大家能成为好朋友一起学习共同努力是最
好的。
Lastly, I would like to talk about my experience on the actual date of exam.
I basically eat some light breakfast and got there early around 0730. The
testing center people prefer that I get there early, otherwise, they said it
’s going to be a long line.
I basically started the test early and took a 5 mins break in between each
block and a 30 mins break for lunch.
I feel the actual test is much harder than the NBME questions. Every block I
have at least 10-15 questions marked, not sure what is going on. I feel for
my test, I had a lot of Step 2 like questions, meaning there are a lot of
true clinical questions, rather than a lot of basic science questions for
some reason. Actually for my test, FA was not that helpful. I heard that the
NBME was trying to change the test because people have been doing better
and better at it.
I did not feel like question stems were that long, as some of the people
were talking about it on this website. I think the length of the questions
were reasonable and manageable. However, I did have some time crunch. Every
block I only had around 5-10 mins left, and I could only re-check the
questions that I marked. The reason is because the questions are harder, not
because they are longer than NBME.
I heard that they have a lot of experimental questions and the most
important thing is not freak out. Take a deep breath, keep calm and endure
through it.
Good luck on all of ya’ll who are still studying hard! You can do it!!!
M********0
发帖数: 62
2
好赞~!多谢分享。话说258现在已经是“不是很好的”的分数了吗,鸭梨好大啊………
n********5
发帖数: 11
3
This year on my report it says Average is 228 with SD of 21.Last year
average was 227. It is getting higher and higher every year, looks like.
j**********0
发帖数: 391
4
admire NiuNiu.
A old CMG break his heart.
t******e
发帖数: 195
5
赞一下牛人~!
有时间的话,能举例子具体说说怎么分析考点吗?

have
Pathoma
5

【在 n********5 的大作中提到】
: 我在这里潜水很久,借鉴了很多牛人的学习方法,所以今天决定把自己的考经也写一遍
: 。初次发帖请大家多多包涵!Sorry for the delay, I have been busy on my
: rotations.
: 我知道班上很多牛人,大家学习也都很努力。我的成绩也不是很好,不想在这里班门弄
: 斧,只是向大家介绍下我的学习方法。Although my score is not that high,
: considering that I only studied for 5 weeks, I think my study method is
: pretty efficient. Hopefully, it will be helpful for those who does not have
: much time to study.
: The only study material I used were: First Aid(FA) 2014, UWorld(UW), Pathoma
: and NBME forms. I am a third year medical student in Texas and I only had 5

h*****h
发帖数: 47
6
1 month? My heart breaks too.......
e***5
发帖数: 106
7
其实这个考试还是得靠记忆力,说实在没什么很难理解的东西,关键是要能记住理解的
东西。所以一个月考高分,只适用于年轻的医学生,而不适于老CMG.
m*****a
发帖数: 2160
8
问这边哥大的医学生也都step一般只准备5个月(当然也有学霸为了冲270+早早就开始
准备了)
人家是按照美国的基础课踏踏实实学过来,然后做完core rotation后再去考的,大部
分知识复习
而中国医学院出来的很多知识实际上都是第一次学,医学教育的差距摆着呢

【在 h*****h 的大作中提到】
: 1 month? My heart breaks too.......
s*******w
发帖数: 1879
9
Sounds like that you are an AMG.
Any tips how to prepare for these tests/clinical rotation during preclinical
years? Thanks.
T**X
发帖数: 314
10
忒牛了,我想明天辞职,家里吃半年的软饭,全身心备考了!
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h*****h
发帖数: 47
11
完全 同意你说的。我就是纯感慨下。。。

【在 m*****a 的大作中提到】
: 问这边哥大的医学生也都step一般只准备5个月(当然也有学霸为了冲270+早早就开始
: 准备了)
: 人家是按照美国的基础课踏踏实实学过来,然后做完core rotation后再去考的,大部
: 分知识复习
: 而中国医学院出来的很多知识实际上都是第一次学,医学教育的差距摆着呢

b*******s
发帖数: 954
12
恭喜LZ的分数,非常好啦!也谢谢你的帖子,makes a lot sense, 看完后觉得收获很
大。
可以请教一下前两年上医学院的课的时候,除了学校的通用教科书比如Robbins之外,
你用FA做为学习的outline吗?还是以Golian rapid review 作为一个outline?
我的问题的意思是说,前两年学校里学的东东很多很杂,你怎么有重点的学习的?还有
用什么方法防止自己忘掉已经学过的东东?用Anki吗?还是用其他什么flash cards?
多谢!

have
Pathoma
5

【在 n********5 的大作中提到】
: 我在这里潜水很久,借鉴了很多牛人的学习方法,所以今天决定把自己的考经也写一遍
: 。初次发帖请大家多多包涵!Sorry for the delay, I have been busy on my
: rotations.
: 我知道班上很多牛人,大家学习也都很努力。我的成绩也不是很好,不想在这里班门弄
: 斧,只是向大家介绍下我的学习方法。Although my score is not that high,
: considering that I only studied for 5 weeks, I think my study method is
: pretty efficient. Hopefully, it will be helpful for those who does not have
: much time to study.
: The only study material I used were: First Aid(FA) 2014, UWorld(UW), Pathoma
: and NBME forms. I am a third year medical student in Texas and I only had 5

n********5
发帖数: 11
13
Regarding the questions about board study during my first two years of
medical school.
For first year, I dont really think it was necessary for me to study for
board, because I did not have the basic knowledge. There was just nothing to
build on.
For second year, basically what I did was for every system course, I would
read Robbins. Although it was painful, I think reading robbins was how I
established a good foundation of basic pathology knowledge.
My study group and me would go over Robbins, then go over Pathoma for
clarification and then go over the PPT from lectures to find out what
concepts are more important and high yield. After we finish our exams from
school, we would then go over first aid of that system and review the
concepts that is emphasized in FA.
During each system course, I would also do questions on UWorld. Try to get a
better grasp of the concept.
As we were going along with the systems, we would always spend some time
taking about the previous systems, trying to make sure that we do not forget
about the key concepts and reinforce our memory.
We would also add whatever system that we learned so far into the UWorld
questions. So we get used to mixed topics in one test.
Regarding UW, we always to Timed session, Testing Mode. At the end of the
2nd year, we would always choose All Subjects. Try not to do one subject
only unless you are just starting to study.

【在 b*******s 的大作中提到】
: 恭喜LZ的分数,非常好啦!也谢谢你的帖子,makes a lot sense, 看完后觉得收获很
: 大。
: 可以请教一下前两年上医学院的课的时候,除了学校的通用教科书比如Robbins之外,
: 你用FA做为学习的outline吗?还是以Golian rapid review 作为一个outline?
: 我的问题的意思是说,前两年学校里学的东东很多很杂,你怎么有重点的学习的?还有
: 用什么方法防止自己忘掉已经学过的东东?用Anki吗?还是用其他什么flash cards?
: 多谢!
:
: have
: Pathoma

b*********2
发帖数: 255
14
很有启发!谢谢分享!

have
Pathoma
5

【在 n********5 的大作中提到】
: 我在这里潜水很久,借鉴了很多牛人的学习方法,所以今天决定把自己的考经也写一遍
: 。初次发帖请大家多多包涵!Sorry for the delay, I have been busy on my
: rotations.
: 我知道班上很多牛人,大家学习也都很努力。我的成绩也不是很好,不想在这里班门弄
: 斧,只是向大家介绍下我的学习方法。Although my score is not that high,
: considering that I only studied for 5 weeks, I think my study method is
: pretty efficient. Hopefully, it will be helpful for those who does not have
: much time to study.
: The only study material I used were: First Aid(FA) 2014, UWorld(UW), Pathoma
: and NBME forms. I am a third year medical student in Texas and I only had 5

n********5
发帖数: 11
15
There are a lot of examples, I just have been pretty busy these days, so I
will just talk about one. I am mostly talking about getting to know concepts
in the questions. figuring out why the author made those questions, what
concept is the author going for?
There was an question on NBME, described the complex process of some MHC
protein that is supposed to be in the ER ended up in the membrane and ask
you what is going to happen. At first I was thinking may be some immune dis-
regulation. Turned out all the author was trying to test is if a protein or
peptide appeared at a place that it is not suppose to appear, what is going
to happen to it. So the answer is always going to be "Ubiquitination".
Then you can also ask what happens if the protein can not be ubiquitinated?
Well, there is gonna be accumulation and deposition. That is like the
mechanism of Alzheimer’s disease or any kind of amyloid deposition.
So by doing one question, we can get to answer a series of similar question
of the same topic.

【在 t******e 的大作中提到】
: 赞一下牛人~!
: 有时间的话,能举例子具体说说怎么分析考点吗?
:
: have
: Pathoma
: 5

b*******s
发帖数: 954
16
多谢多谢,非常有帮助。
基本上Robbins, Pathoma, 学习小组,你上课的slides, 和UW, 对你最有帮助
还有一个问题,你怎么找到那么多时间学习的?对我来说,学校的各种事情,就把时间
全占掉了...

to

【在 n********5 的大作中提到】
: Regarding the questions about board study during my first two years of
: medical school.
: For first year, I dont really think it was necessary for me to study for
: board, because I did not have the basic knowledge. There was just nothing to
: build on.
: For second year, basically what I did was for every system course, I would
: read Robbins. Although it was painful, I think reading robbins was how I
: established a good foundation of basic pathology knowledge.
: My study group and me would go over Robbins, then go over Pathoma for
: clarification and then go over the PPT from lectures to find out what

n********5
发帖数: 11
17
I actually never said that I studied a lot, because in reality I did not. I
am a very lazy person, I only study in the library with my friends after
class. Once I go home for dinner, I sometimes just lay on coach and watch TV
. I do very little study at home and I have to go to sleep by 1030,
otherwise, I cant wake up in the morning.
I am just not that intense and I have a very chill personality. I dont
really care about my grades or board score. They are just there to get me to
the interviews.
So, just chill up and enjoy medical school. You are gonna have way too much
things to worry about once you get out.

【在 b*******s 的大作中提到】
: 多谢多谢,非常有帮助。
: 基本上Robbins, Pathoma, 学习小组,你上课的slides, 和UW, 对你最有帮助
: 还有一个问题,你怎么找到那么多时间学习的?对我来说,学校的各种事情,就把时间
: 全占掉了...
:
: to

b***x
发帖数: 86
18
One month study, 268.
L****e
发帖数: 499
19
1. Concept driven
2. Question based
3. Group oriented
多谢分享,很好的points, 虽然您是AMG,美国的医学院一路学过来的,但是我觉得这
个经验同样适用于其他人
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