m*****n 发帖数: 5245 | 1 五月份净丢失了125000个工作岗位,
但失业率从9.7%下降到9.5%
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gNiyJ905Ho0Ur96V2TQhsBX19lGwD9GN34I80
Employers cut 125,000 jobs last month, the most since October, the Labor
Department said Friday. The loss was driven by the end of 225,000 temporary
census jobs. Businesses added a net total of 83,000 workers, the sixth
straight month of private-sector job gains but not enough to speed up the
recovery.
Unemployment dropped to 9.5 percent — the lowest level since July 2009 |
i***l 发帖数: 9994 | 2 "People who
are no longer looking for work aren't counted as unemployed."
Wtf? So these people are employed, just because they "left" work force? How
do you leave workforce? HOW? |
f**k 发帖数: 15238 | 3 就不要替人家米国人民担心了
How
【在 i***l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "People who : are no longer looking for work aren't counted as unemployed." : Wtf? So these people are employed, just because they "left" work force? How : do you leave workforce? HOW?
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o****y 发帖数: 26355 | 4 They are not looking for jobs any more.
How
【在 i***l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "People who : are no longer looking for work aren't counted as unemployed." : Wtf? So these people are employed, just because they "left" work force? How : do you leave workforce? HOW?
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f**k 发帖数: 15238 | 5 how can you tell?
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : They are not looking for jobs any more. : : How
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p******m 发帖数: 121 | 6 TG统计局只算登记失业率估计就是向MD学习的结果。TG要像MD一样流氓还有很长的路要
走啊 |
o****y 发帖数: 26355 | 7 Survey ah. "Are you employed?" ."No", "Are you looking for a job", "No".
【在 f**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : how can you tell?
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P******O 发帖数: 2397 | 8 你才知道啊,这就是美国所谓的“失业率”,失业金领完了,也就被不失业了,呵呵。
How
【在 i***l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "People who : are no longer looking for work aren't counted as unemployed." : Wtf? So these people are employed, just because they "left" work force? How : do you leave workforce? HOW?
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m*****g 发帖数: 833 | 9 米国的失业驴统计对象,不包括"不想找工作的人",所以只含登记,且一定时间内的人数.
不过确实比较威武. |
P******O 发帖数: 2397 | 10 根本不是不包括不找工作的人的问题,而是一旦失业金领完,你就是疯了一样找工作,
也不被统计在内。
数.
【在 m*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 米国的失业驴统计对象,不包括"不想找工作的人",所以只含登记,且一定时间内的人数. : 不过确实比较威武.
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s**********d 发帖数: 36899 | 11 失业统计只包括领失业保险的人。
还好人家告诉你怎么统计的。
数.
【在 m*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 米国的失业驴统计对象,不包括"不想找工作的人",所以只含登记,且一定时间内的人数. : 不过确实比较威武.
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o****y 发帖数: 26355 | 12 It is based on the survey. Not everyone has the unemployment insurance.
【在 s**********d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 失业统计只包括领失业保险的人。 : 还好人家告诉你怎么统计的。 : : 数.
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B**W 发帖数: 2273 | 13 估计他们没读过经济学101, for dummies之类的东西.unemployment rate从一开始就是
这么算的,没什么值得大惊小怪的,而且还有年龄范围的.现在不是很多人开始算under-
employment rate来解决这个问题了么.
当时考虑的是不找工作的人是不需要工作的人,象gates一类的人物,结果现在是很多是
找了好久找不到工作,然后放弃(暂时或者永久),而靠救济,家庭,或者借贷的穷人.当然
也有少数趁机给自己放长假的牛人.
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : It is based on the survey. Not everyone has the unemployment insurance.
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w*****g 发帖数: 1415 | 14 美国的失业率来自于抽样调查(50万人应该是),国内的来自于统计。 |
T*******i 发帖数: 805 | |
p*****0 发帖数: 3104 | 16 这是个使用了很久而且很公开的方法
也有工作岗位增加,但是失业率也增加的情况,就是找工作的人变多了
市场对这样的数据的反应是很理性的,都是看具体工作数目增加减少,rate只是一个大体
上的衡量标准
temporary
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 五月份净丢失了125000个工作岗位, : 但失业率从9.7%下降到9.5% : http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gNiyJ905Ho0Ur96V2TQhsBX19lGwD9GN34I80 : Employers cut 125,000 jobs last month, the most since October, the Labor : Department said Friday. The loss was driven by the end of 225,000 temporary : census jobs. Businesses added a net total of 83,000 workers, the sixth : straight month of private-sector job gains but not enough to speed up the : recovery. : Unemployment dropped to 9.5 percent — the lowest level since July 2009
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l**k 发帖数: 45267 | 17 那些找一年工作还找不着,失业救济过期了的倒霉人,比算在失业人口里的人员给经济
造成的负面作用更大吧
【在 B**W 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 估计他们没读过经济学101, for dummies之类的东西.unemployment rate从一开始就是 : 这么算的,没什么值得大惊小怪的,而且还有年龄范围的.现在不是很多人开始算under- : employment rate来解决这个问题了么. : 当时考虑的是不找工作的人是不需要工作的人,象gates一类的人物,结果现在是很多是 : 找了好久找不到工作,然后放弃(暂时或者永久),而靠救济,家庭,或者借贷的穷人.当然 : 也有少数趁机给自己放长假的牛人.
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a***e 发帖数: 27968 | 18 这个和美国统计战争损失一个道理,就是严格的定义
想找工作找不到,叫失业,找到放弃了,就不失业了
这个和中国的下岗是异曲同工
temporary
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 五月份净丢失了125000个工作岗位, : 但失业率从9.7%下降到9.5% : http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gNiyJ905Ho0Ur96V2TQhsBX19lGwD9GN34I80 : Employers cut 125,000 jobs last month, the most since October, the Labor : Department said Friday. The loss was driven by the end of 225,000 temporary : census jobs. Businesses added a net total of 83,000 workers, the sixth : straight month of private-sector job gains but not enough to speed up the : recovery. : Unemployment dropped to 9.5 percent — the lowest level since July 2009
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