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发帖数: 6973 | 1 Sorry, I thought the debates between Shotgun1984 and StationCC was in the Chinanews board, so I posted my posting over there.
【 以下文字转载自 ChinaNews 讨论区 】
发信人: choi (choi), 信区: ChinaNews
标 题: Chinese, U R Wrong: CN's Already No. 1 in Mfg
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Aug 3 17:12:37 2010, 美东)
Mfg = Manufacturing
(1) The following is copied and pasted from my posting tilted 美国女共产主义
者寒春在北京去世, on June 21, 2010 and at the Chinanews board.
"(2) 报告：中国制造业产出迎头赶上美国. VOA Chinese, June 21, 2010.
http://www1.voanews.co | c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 2 (6) History has shown a nation of smaller total GDP can defeat another with
bigger one.
The thirteen colonies are a good example.
(a) Facts for Features. Census Bureau, July 4, 2010.
http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/facts_for_features_special_editions/cb10-ff12.html
("2.5 million In July 1776, the estimated number of people living in the
newly independent nation.
Source: Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970")
(b) Aram Bakshian, Jr., Sparks of a Rev | c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 3 (7)
(a) In my view, Qing Dynasty's faults started the war.
* First Opium War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Opium_War
(Lin Zexu "asked that all opium be surrendered to the Chinese authorities *
* * forced the British hand by closing the channel to Canton, effectively
holding British traders hostage in Canton. The British Chief Superintendent
of Trade in China, Charles Elliot, got the British traders to agree to hand
over their opium stock with the promise of eventual compensation for their
l | S*********4
发帖数: 5125 | 4 I am kind of confused. What 's your point?
1~5 & 7: if you say China's GDP was much greater than B.K.'s, I admit that
was true. But I already clarified this in my orginal post that it is because
B.K. already finished the Industry Revolution while China even did not
start it. China did not have a formal firearm industry until 1861. Please
refer to my orginal post at
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Military/34099055.html
6: if you say even U.S. with a much smaller GDP defeated B.K. in American
Ind | c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 5 About 5-7. I did NOT say you were wrong. In fact, you were quite right.
About 6. But US defeated UK several times on land. France did not send
soldiers to assist US. What France had was navy that did not fight a sea
battle during the American Revolution.
My key point, with regard to your original posting, is start the premises of
argument from the fact China is No. 1 in manufacturing--not if.
* * *
【在 S*********4 的大作中提到】
: I am kind of confused. What 's your point?
: 1~5 & 7: if you say China's GDP was much greater than B.K.'s, I admit that
: was true. But I already clarified this in my orginal post that it is because
: B.K. already finished the Industry Revolution while China even did not
: start it. China did not have a formal firearm industry until 1861. Please
: refer to my orginal post at
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Military/34099055.html
: 6: if you say even U.S. with a much smaller GDP defeated B.K. in American
: Ind
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发帖数: 27968 | 6 the cost part,
you better find out what was the GDP then for the 13 US and what $2.4B meant
then.
US just picked the right time to declare independence.
the Statue came from France for good reasons.
u sure taiwan will have that kind of backup?
not to mention the relative the area involved in the war.
back then, how long it took to travel from boston to NYC?
now, how long it takes to travel from north to south in taiwan?
with
")
days
【在 c**i 的大作中提到】
: (6) History has shown a nation of smaller total GDP can defeat another with
: bigger one.
: The thirteen colonies are a good example.
: (a) Facts for Features. Census Bureau, July 4, 2010.
: http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/facts_for_features_special_editions/cb10-ff12.html
: ("2.5 million In July 1776, the estimated number of people living in the
: newly independent nation.
: Source: Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970")
: (b) Aram Bakshian, Jr., Sparks of a Rev
| S*********4
发帖数: 5125 | 7 Frankly speaking, I think you missed my points. My orginal post did not
specifically talk about the Manufacturing but the total GDP.
There are mainly two points.
1, Since nearly 50% of China's total GDP is from industry, as China
surpasses U.S. on total GDP in the future, China's industry will be as 2.5 times large as U.S.'s is
2, as this moment comes, China will gain the ability to significantly change
the current global game rule, if not dominate, because the industry determines how much milit | c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 8 (1) You wrote, "My orginal post did not specifically talk about the
Manufacturing but the total GDP."
I knew. But I thought your original posting, dealing with "industry" rather
than "manufacturing," missed the point. The former includes construction,
which is not , can not be, exported.
(2) You also wrote, "Since nearly 50% of China's total GDP is from industry.
" Now that infrastructure investment in China accounts for more than 60% of
GDP each year, "industry" MUST be greater than 60% simply | c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 9 I tried hard before, and at your urging, I tried again just now. The report
"The cost of major U.S. wars" by Congressional Research Service (CRS) in
late July 2010, was not released into public domain. After all, the Service
serves the Congress.
The $2.4 billion is 2010 dollars, not 1776. The NY Times report did not
include war cost to GDP ration for American Revolution, presumably because
the CRS report did not have that, either. I thought there were two reasons:
(a) there was no federal govern
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】
: the cost part,
: you better find out what was the GDP then for the 13 US and what $2.4B meant
: then.
: US just picked the right time to declare independence.
: the Statue came from France for good reasons.
: u sure taiwan will have that kind of backup?
: not to mention the relative the area involved in the war.
: back then, how long it took to travel from boston to NYC?
: now, how long it takes to travel from north to south in taiwan?
:
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