y****e
发帖数: 23939 | 1 "根据美国华尔街日报今年一月引用美国政府研究机构数据，在2002年在美国拿到科学
和工程方面的博士毕业生，五年以后仍然滞留在美国的，中国是全世界最高的，达到92
%，而韩国，台湾等地都在50% 以下，泰国只有7%。" | t******t
发帖数: 15246 | | j***x
发帖数: 1469 | 3 有此新闻连结就比较好了，最好是英文的。
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【在 y****e 的大作中提到】
: "根据美国华尔街日报今年一月引用美国政府研究机构数据，在2002年在美国拿到科学
: 和工程方面的博士毕业生，五年以后仍然滞留在美国的，中国是全世界最高的，达到92
: %，而韩国，台湾等地都在50% 以下，泰国只有7%。"
| s***d
发帖数: 15421 | | U*E
发帖数: 3620 | 5 你对qed在Sep 29 2010造谣温jb因为房价潸然泪下的事怎么看？link:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/WorldNews/31475501.html
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【在 y****e 的大作中提到】
: "根据美国华尔街日报今年一月引用美国政府研究机构数据，在2002年在美国拿到科学
: 和工程方面的博士毕业生，五年以后仍然滞留在美国的，中国是全世界最高的，达到92
: %，而韩国，台湾等地都在50% 以下，泰国只有7%。"
| y****e
发帖数: 23939 | 6 三个读硕士挣大钱的多，PHD这种高投入低产出还是大陆人多些
【在 s***d 的大作中提到】
: 为什么不是三哥
| U*E
发帖数: 3620 | 7 http://www.mitbbs.com/bbsdoc/WorldNews.html
【在 y****e 的大作中提到】
: 三个读硕士挣大钱的多，PHD这种高投入低产出还是大陆人多些
| i*********8
发帖数: 3229 | 8 有鸭婆这样常年滞留不归的千老，这个比例高点也是很正常的。
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【在 y****e 的大作中提到】
: "根据美国华尔街日报今年一月引用美国政府研究机构数据，在2002年在美国拿到科学
: 和工程方面的博士毕业生，五年以后仍然滞留在美国的，中国是全世界最高的，达到92
: %，而韩国，台湾等地都在50% 以下，泰国只有7%。"
| o**o
发帖数: 561 | 9 Link to the article:
http://on.wsj.com/9kSs21
POLITICS JANUARY 26, 2010
U.S. Keeps Foreign Ph.D.s
Despite Fears of a Post-9/11 Drop, Most Science, Engineering Post-Grads
Have Stayed
By DAVID WESSEL
Most foreigners who came to the U.S. to earn doctorate degrees in
science and engineering stayed on after graduation - at least until the
recession began - refuting predictions that post-9/11 restrictions on
immigrants or expanding opportunities in China and India would send more
of them home.
Newly released data revealed that 62% of foreigners holding temporary
visas who earned Ph.D.s in science and engineering at U.S. universities
in 2002 were still in the U.S. in 2007, the latest year for which
figures are available. Of those who graduated in 1997, 60% were still in
the U.S. in 2007, according to the data compiled by the U.S. Energy
Department's Oak Ridge Institute for Science and Education for the
National Science Foundation.
Foreigners account for about 40% of all science and engineering Ph.D.
holders working in the U.S., and a larger fraction in engineering, math
and computer fields. "Our ability to continue to attract and keep
foreign scientists and engineers is critical to increase investment in
science and technology," Oak Ridge analyst Michael Finn said.
"Data for all available cohorts indicate that 'stay rates' of foreign
science and engineering doctorate recipients in 2007 are slightly higher
than they have been in recent years," Mr. Finn said. His findings, which
use tax data to track graduates over time, cover the years before the
U.S. plunged into a recession that damped job prospects in many U.S.
industries and universities.
Other analysts see signs that recent foreign grads are increasingly
likely to return home, particularly in today's weak job market. "I have
no doubt that the 2009 data will show a dramatic shift," said Vivek
Wadwha, executive in residence at Duke University's Pratt School of
Engineering, who has been warning loudly about the threat that trend
would pose to innovation in the U.S. In October 2008, Mr. Wadwha and
others used Facebook to question 1,224 foreigners studying at U.S.
institutions at all levels. More than half the Indians and 40% of the
Chinese said they hoped to return home within five years.
Separate NSF surveys show the fraction of foreign Ph.D.s planning to
stay in the U.S. dipped in the years following the Sept. 11, 2001,
terrorist attack and then rebounded. Nearly 80% of those with temporary
visas surveyed in 2007 said they planned to stay; more than half had
definite plans to do so.
Joy Ying Zhang, the son of a primary-school teacher and a college
professor, left China's Hunan Province in 1999 for Detroit's Wayne State
University, where he arrived with two suitcases and $2,000 in cash. He
later transferred to Carnegie Mellon University, which awarded him a
Ph.D. in computer science in 2008.
With Fewer U.S. Opportunities, Home Looks Appealing to Expats
(12/17/2009)
Four or five of his friends have returned to China, he said, and he has
discussed doing so. But Mr. Zhang, now a research assistant professor at
Carnegie Mellon's Silicon Valley campus, has decided stay. "I have spent
10 years here already," he said. "It took me some time to get used to
American life. Now, it'd be hard to get used to China. It's called
'reverse culture shock.' " Mr. Zhang, 35 years old, has a brother who
works for a pharmaceutical company in the U.S. and a sister who is a
physician in China and close to their parents.
In recruiting for Carnegie Mellon, he finds young Chinese less eager to
come to the U.S. than those of his generation. "Life in China is getting
better. There are research alternatives in China—like Microsoft China,"
he said. "They can get good mentoring and advice there, instead of
coming to the U.S."
In 2007, foreign citizens accounted for 16,022 of the Ph.D.s awarded in
science and engineering in the U.S., or 46% of the total, according to
the Oak Ridge data. In contrast, the class of 1997 had 12,966
foreigners, or 30% of the total.
Graduates of Ph.D. programs in the physical sciences and computer
science are more likely to remain in the U.S. than those in other
fields, Mr. Finn said. Those programs are popular with Chinese and
Indian students, who are more likely to remain in the U.S. after
completing studies than those from Taiwan, South Korea and Western
Europe. Among 2002 graduates, 92% of the Chinese and 81% of the Indians
were in the U.S. after five years; in contrast, 41% of South Koreans and
52% of Germans were.
Aranyak Mehta, 31, came from India nearly a decade ago to study the
science of algorithms at Georgia Institute of Technology and earned a
Ph.D. in 2005. Today, he is a research scientist at Google—and planning,
for now, to remain in the U.S. "There's always a trade-off—family,
culture, and all that," he said. "One of the most important things with
an academic background is the work that you do, and is it exciting? I'm
not saying there is no exciting work in India. Many people have gone
back and started companies."
Using the LinkedIn online network, Mr. Wadhwa identified 1,203 skilled
Indians and Chinese who had returned home. Three-quarters said visa
issues weren't a factor. Rather, career opportunities, quality-of-life
concerns and family ties were major factors. Some 70% of the Chinese and
61% of the Indians said opportunities for professional advancement were
better at home.
The NSF recently said the number of foreign science and engineering
students enrolled in graduate programs of all types hit 158,430 in April
2009, up 8% from the year before.
Write to David Wessel at c*****[email protected]
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: Link to the article:
: http://on.wsj.com/9kSs21
: POLITICS JANUARY 26, 2010
: U.S. Keeps Foreign Ph.D.s
: Despite Fears of a Post-9/11 Drop, Most Science, Engineering Post-Grads
: Have Stayed
: By DAVID WESSEL
: Most foreigners who came to the U.S. to earn doctorate degrees in
: science and engineering stayed on after graduation - at least until the
: recession began - refuting predictions that post-9/11 restrictions on
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