t*******h 发帖数: 2882 | 1 Chinese spy' allegations rock Tibetans
By Saransh Sehgal
DHARAMSALA, India - The 25-year-old 17th Gyalwang Karmapa, Ogyen Trinley
Dorje, Tibetan Buddhism's third-highest lama, is making headlines after
Indian police raided the Gyuto Tantric monastery - his temporal base in
Dharamsala, the de facto capital of Tibetan exiles - and seized a large
amount of foreign currency.
Indian police officials say that a sum worth around US$777,000 in nearly two
dozen foreign currencies was seized last Wednesday, including a large
amount of Chinese yuan. "The amount was so large that we will certainly look
into every
angle of what could be the source," said D S Minhas, director general of
police in the north Indian state of Himachal Pradesh.
The seizure of so much yuan has prompted speculation in Indian media about a
possible "Chinese link". Indian authorities had not trusted Trinley Dorje
since his dramatic escape from Tibet to India in 2000, as he is the first
reincarnation of a high lama officially accepted by the communist government
of China.
His status as a 17th Karmapa is also under challenge from another claimant,
Ogyen Thaye Dorjee. This is why he hasn't been allowed to take the official
seat of the Karmapa in India at Rumtek monastery in Sikkim, and has failed
to gain the trust of the Indian government.
Officials say Trinley Dorje has been interrogated by a series of police and
intelligence agencies over the source of the cash, so far denying any links
with China.
"Links with China are one of the various aspects being looked at. He is not
under house arrest but certain restrictions have been imposed on him," said
Minhas. "Fifty questions were asked to the Karmapa and he denied all
allegations. He said the money was given to him by devotees," said Kapoor,
another senior policeman leading the questioning.
State police launched the two-day search operation at the monastery in
Dharamsala, from where the Dalai Lama heads the Tibetan government in exile.
The Karmapa lives in a rooftop room of the monastery.
The police raided the administration of the Kagyu office (Karmapa is of the
Kagyu sect of Tibetan Buddhism), arresting Trinley Dorje's closest aide and
accountant, Shakti Lama, and quizzing many of his officials. The Karmapa was
inside the monastery during the police raid.
Police sources say the raid was launched in connection with the arrest of
two Indians in the Una border region, with 10 million rupees ($22,200)
seized in cash.
The two men told police they had received the money from a monk at the
monastery to buy a plot of land near Dharamsala, said Santosh Patial, a
senior district policeman.
The police claim that early investigations have revealed that the Kagyu
office of the Karmapa had struck an allegedly illegal land deal with an
Indian businessman to buy land in and around Dharamsala.
Officials now say two more men have been arrested, "Indian businessman K P
Bhardwaj, who is believed to have struck a land deal with the Karmapa's
Karma Garchen Trust, and a banker, K Dhar, were arrested last night
following raids conducted at the residence and hotel of Bhardwaj and clues
provided by him during questioning with regard to the money trail,"
inspector-general of police P L Thakur was quoted as saying by Asian News
International last Friday.
Some believe the issue could simply be a case of the Kagyu officials falling
foul of land-purchase regulations, since Indians from other Indian states
need special government permission to buy land in Himachal Pradesh. However,
questions are still being raised over the source of the foreign currency.
Observers say that even if the Karmapa could explain the source of the money
, he might be held liable for violating the Foreign Exchange Management Act
that prohibits people holding large amounts of foreign currency. The Karmapa
's trust also does not have permission under the Foreign Contribution
Regulation Act to accept foreign donations.
The Karmapa office has tried to clarify the situation and after consulting
diplomatic advisers and lawyers, released a statement stressing that "the
allegations being leveled against the Karmapa and his administration are
grossly speculative and without foundation in the truth ... We categorically
deny having any link whatsoever with any arm of the Chinese government."
"The cash in question under the current investigation by the police is
offerings received for charitable purposes from local and international
disciples from many different countries wishing to support His Holiness'
various charitable activities. Any suggestion that these offerings were to
be used for illegal purposes in libelous," it added.
The incident has sent shockwaves through the Tibetan exile community, even
drawing the attention of the Dalai Lama, who has backed the Karmapa but
urged a probe into the cash found. "There should be a thorough investigation
. He [the Karmapa] is an important lama," the Dalai Lama told media in
Bangalore on Sunday.
"Karmapa has many devotees including from China ... some money would have
naturally been received by him," added the Nobel prize winner. "There has
been some negligence. We better now have a thorough investigation."
Beijing has also reacted over the controversy, distancing itself from the
allegations in the Indian media.
"The speculation by India's media regarding the matter of the Karmapa as a
Chinese agent or spy, shows that India is keeping its mistrustful attitude
toward China," Xu Zhitao, an official of the ruling Communist Party's United
Front Work Department, told the state-run Global Times newspaper.
Unlike its treatment of the Dalai Lama, Beijing has refrained from
denouncing the Karmapa, despite his embarrassing flight from Tibet in late
1999.
New Delhi has been watching the row closely, and Indian Home Minister P
Chidambaram said, "Investigations are underway in Karmapa case. No
conclusion has been drawn on whether he is a Chinese agent or not."
The Indian public has been gripped by the story, and it has sparked debate
on a number of national news channels.
Some media agencies have quoted an investigating officer as saying, "There
are enough indications that Karmapa was in regular touch with the Chinese
authorities to help Beijing control Buddhist monasteries from Ladakh in
Jammu and Kashmir to Tawang in Arunachal Pradesh. This huge seizure
substantiates what we have always suspected."
However, Sujit Dutta, a scholar at New Delhi's Nelson Mandela Center for
Peace and Conflict Resolution, says it is far too early to speculate on the
outcome of the investigation. He expects India and China to watch the case
closely.
"This will have diplomatic implications for India-China relations, It will
only add another problem to the already difficult set of issues the two
countries face," Dutta told the Voice of America.
Former Indian intelligence official B Raman said the allegation that the
Karmapa was a Chinese spy was aimed at dividing the Tibetan community in
exile before the 75-year-old Dalai Lama passes away. "He was selected
according to Tibetan tradition but the Chinese approved his selection. They
hope they will be able to use him to influence the selection of the next
Dalai Lama. I'm suspicious. I've always suspected it's a Chinese
intelligence operation. They think long term" he said.
Thousands of Tibetans, Indians and Western Buddhists have gathered at the
Gyuto monastery to show their solidarity with the Karmapa. Many Tibetan
exiles say the Indian media have acted irresponsibly by publishing such
allegations against a "living Buddha" before the police probe is even
complete.
Devotees in Dharamsala, New Delhi and Sikkim have led candlelight vigils in
support of the Karmapa, with online petitions and social networking sites
also being used to deny the allegation of spying.
The Tibetan government in exile has also backed its religious leader, saying
at a press conference, "Many people send large amounts of money to the lama
as a token of respect. If anybody is trying to talk of any conspiracy, it
is totally unwarranted ... there is no basis to the media speculation
linking the Karmapa Lama with the Chinese government."
The cash scandal has placed the Karmapa in the middle of an unholy row that
has puzzled Indian intelligence agencies and which could blacken the image
of a future Tibetan leader in exile. While the Dalai Lama and the government
in exile have come out in his support, some are questioning why Beijing has
taken such care and attention to also deny the allegations.
Saransh Sehgal is a writer based in Dharamsala, India, he can be reached at
i**[email protected]. | h***i 发帖数: 89031 | 2 真的是土共给的钱?
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【在 t*******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Chinese spy' allegations rock Tibetans : By Saransh Sehgal : DHARAMSALA, India - The 25-year-old 17th Gyalwang Karmapa, Ogyen Trinley : Dorje, Tibetan Buddhism's third-highest lama, is making headlines after : Indian police raided the Gyuto Tantric monastery - his temporal base in : Dharamsala, the de facto capital of Tibetan exiles - and seized a large : amount of foreign currency. : Indian police officials say that a sum worth around US$777,000 in nearly two : dozen foreign currencies was seized last Wednesday, including a large : amount of Chinese yuan. "The amount was so large that we will certainly look
| z**n 发帖数: 22303 | | S****e 发帖数: 10596 | 4 tg说给你钱花
愿意去哪就去哪
别回来就行
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【在 t*******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Chinese spy' allegations rock Tibetans : By Saransh Sehgal : DHARAMSALA, India - The 25-year-old 17th Gyalwang Karmapa, Ogyen Trinley : Dorje, Tibetan Buddhism's third-highest lama, is making headlines after : Indian police raided the Gyuto Tantric monastery - his temporal base in : Dharamsala, the de facto capital of Tibetan exiles - and seized a large : amount of foreign currency. : Indian police officials say that a sum worth around US$777,000 in nearly two : dozen foreign currencies was seized last Wednesday, including a large : amount of Chinese yuan. "The amount was so large that we will certainly look
| n*******n 发帖数: 7628 | | v**e 发帖数: 8422 | 6 US$777,000
好象没多少啊, 人家是排名第三的活佛, 有点供养很平常
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【在 t*******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Chinese spy' allegations rock Tibetans : By Saransh Sehgal : DHARAMSALA, India - The 25-year-old 17th Gyalwang Karmapa, Ogyen Trinley : Dorje, Tibetan Buddhism's third-highest lama, is making headlines after : Indian police raided the Gyuto Tantric monastery - his temporal base in : Dharamsala, the de facto capital of Tibetan exiles - and seized a large : amount of foreign currency. : Indian police officials say that a sum worth around US$777,000 in nearly two : dozen foreign currencies was seized last Wednesday, including a large : amount of Chinese yuan. "The amount was so large that we will certainly look
| m***a 发帖数: 13878 | | z**n 发帖数: 22303 | 8 所以很可能是阿三对中国最近在边境地区一系列动作的回应。土共要加大力度把雅鲁藏布江大坝提前竣工,到时阿三就跪安乐。
【在 v**e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : US$777,000 : 好象没多少啊, 人家是排名第三的活佛, 有点供养很平常 : : two : look
| x*****u 发帖数: 6559 | 9 tg就是要给也不会给rmb吧。 rmb在国外有没啥用。 | v**e 发帖数: 8422 | 10 这事太复杂,
中印矛盾, 印人和流亡藏人的矛盾,
流亡藏人宗教派别的矛盾全有份.
藏布江大坝提前竣工,到时阿三就跪安乐。
【在 z**n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 所以很可能是阿三对中国最近在边境地区一系列动作的回应。土共要加大力度把雅鲁藏布江大坝提前竣工,到时阿三就跪安乐。
| | | c****g 发帖数: 37081 | 11 从西藏越境朝拜的教众捐的。
【在 x*****u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : tg就是要给也不会给rmb吧。 rmb在国外有没啥用。
| h***i 发帖数: 89031 | 12 内讧的藏人炒作
不过葛麻巴这水有点深
【在 v**e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这事太复杂, : 中印矛盾, 印人和流亡藏人的矛盾, : 流亡藏人宗教派别的矛盾全有份. : : 藏布江大坝提前竣工,到时阿三就跪安乐。
| d********a 发帖数: 3698 | 13
居然天涯8卦还有追星帖子。
【在 h***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 内讧的藏人炒作 : 不过葛麻巴这水有点深
| a****e 发帖数: 800 | 14 印度男足的核心就是藏族人, 是不丹的. 印度吞并不丹也就几十年的事情, 那嘎达咋这
么安静啊? | v**e 发帖数: 8422 | 15 控制而已,
没有正式吞并.
又或者, 你说的是锡金吧.......
【在 a****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 印度男足的核心就是藏族人, 是不丹的. 印度吞并不丹也就几十年的事情, 那嘎达咋这 : 么安静啊?
| j******r 发帖数: 1428 | | m*****5 发帖数: 23482 | | s*****r 发帖数: 11545 | |
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