f****l
发帖数: 8042 | 1 中午吃饭的时候看NYT，星期三NRC主席Jaczko在国会作证的时候证实，情况比日本政府
公布的要严重
得多。大概内容：1，泄漏辐射剂量非常大，近距离暴露是致命的。2，50英里是最起码
的安全距离。
3，4号reactor应该是已经干了，虽然日本人还不承认。5，救援人员很危险，日本面临
两难选择，不
撤，可能造成伤亡，撤了，只能看着反应堆meltdown。
这是obama政府首次作出官方评估，也是在这次事件中首次体出明显背离日本政府评估
的结论。 | l**m
发帖数: 5113 | 2 日本人这回名誉扫地了
虽然上午还有老美非说日本人尽力了 | i***e
发帖数: 3219 | 3 难道美国的机构在那里放了自己的探测器？
【在 f****l 的大作中提到】
: 中午吃饭的时候看NYT，星期三NRC主席Jaczko在国会作证的时候证实，情况比日本政府
: 公布的要严重
: 得多。大概内容：1，泄漏辐射剂量非常大，近距离暴露是致命的。2，50英里是最起码
: 的安全距离。
: 3，4号reactor应该是已经干了，虽然日本人还不承认。5，救援人员很危险，日本面临
: 两难选择，不
: 撤，可能造成伤亡，撤了，只能看着反应堆meltdown。
: 这是obama政府首次作出官方评估，也是在这次事件中首次体出明显背离日本政府评估
: 的结论。
| c*******7
发帖数: 3763 | 4 真的假的？
【在 f****l 的大作中提到】
: 中午吃饭的时候看NYT，星期三NRC主席Jaczko在国会作证的时候证实，情况比日本政府
: 公布的要严重
: 得多。大概内容：1，泄漏辐射剂量非常大，近距离暴露是致命的。2，50英里是最起码
: 的安全距离。
: 3，4号reactor应该是已经干了，虽然日本人还不承认。5，救援人员很危险，日本面临
: 两难选择，不
: 撤，可能造成伤亡，撤了，只能看着反应堆meltdown。
: 这是obama政府首次作出官方评估，也是在这次事件中首次体出明显背离日本政府评估
: 的结论。
| N***r
发帖数: 2539 | 5 NRC sent agency to Japan on Mar 12 and Mar 15.
【在 i***e 的大作中提到】
: 难道美国的机构在那里放了自己的探测器？
| f****l
发帖数: 8042 | 6 今天NYT的头版，虽然不是头条，在头条旁边，另一边是辐射plume吹到加州来了。
【在 c*******7 的大作中提到】
: 真的假的？
| b*****e
发帖数: 5476 | 7 日本已经否认4号reactor干了，说情况稳定
还说：
法新社报道，东京电力公司一位官员表示，福岛核电站4号反应堆冷却池中“似乎有水
了”，作出这一论断的依据来自军用直升机的空中观测。东京电力一位发言人则指出：
“我们无法确定池中到底有多少水，但我们没有获知任何能表明乏燃料棒已暴露在空气
中的信息。” | s***a
发帖数: 861 | | f****l
发帖数: 8042 | 9 Some of the maneuvers seemed at odds with the most startling assertion
by Mr. Jaczko (pronounced YAZZ-koe) that there was little or no water in
the pool storing spent nuclear fuel at the No. 4 reactor, leaving fuel
rods stored there exposed and bleeding radiation into the atmosphere.
His testimony before Congress was the first time the Obama
administration had given its own assessment of the condition of the
plant, apparently mixing information it had received from Japan with
data it had collected independently. “We believe that radiation levels
are extremely high, which could possibly impact the ability to take
corrective measures,” Mr. Jaczko said.
His statement was quickly but not definitively rebutted by officials of
Tokyo Electric, the plant’s operator.
“We can’t get inside to check, but we’ve been carefully watching the
building’s environs, and there has not been any particular problem,”
Hajime Motojuku, a spokesman for Tokyo Electric, said Thursday morning
in Japan.
Later, a spokesman for Japan’s Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency,
Yoshitaka Nagayama, was more equivocal, saying, “Because we have been
unable to go to the scene, we cannot confirm whether there is water left
or not in the spent fuel pool at Reactor No. 4.”
At the same time, officials raised concerns about two other reactors
where spent fuel rods were stored, Nos. 5 and 6, saying they had
experienced a slight rise in temperature.
On Wednesday night, Mr. Jaczko reiterated his earlier statement and
added that commission representatives in Tokyo had confirmed that the
pool at No. 4 was empty. He said Tokyo Electric and other officials in
Japan had confirmed that, and also emphasized that high radiation fields
were going to make it very difficult to continue having people work at
the plant.
If the American analysis is accurate and emergency crews at the plant
have been unable to keep the spent fuel at that inoperative reactor
properly cooled — it needs to remain covered with water at all times —
radiation levels could make it difficult not only to fix the problem at
No. 4, but also to keep servicing any of the other problem reactors at
the plant. In the worst case, experts say, workers could be forced to
vacate the plant altogether, and the fuel rods in reactors and spent
fuel pools would be left to melt down, leading to much larger releases
of radioactive materials.
While radiation levels at the plant have varied tremendously, Mr. Jaczko
said that the peak levels reported there “would be lethal within a
fairly short period of time.” He added that another spent fuel pool, at
Reactor No. 3, might also be losing water and could soon be in the same
condition.
On Wednesday, the American Embassy in Tokyo, on advice from the Nuclear
Regulatory Commission, told Americans to evacuate a radius of
“approximately 50 miles” from the Fukushima plant. South Korea,
Australia and New Zealand followed suit in advice to their citizens, and
Spanish authorities on Thursday recommended an either wider berth, about
75 miles, news agencies reported. The advice to Americans in Japan
represents a graver assessment of the risk in the immediate vicinity of
Daiichi than the warnings made by the Japanese themselves, who have told
everyone within 20 kilometers, about 12 miles, to evacuate, and those
within about 20 miles to take shelter.
Close to the site, however, Mr. Jaczko said, “We would recommend an
evacuation to a much larger radius than has currently been provided by
Japan.” That assessment seems bound to embarrass, if not anger, Japanese
officials, suggesting they have miscalculated the danger or deliberately
played down the risks.
Late Wednesday night the State Department announced what it described as
a “voluntary” evacuation of dependents of American government personnel
in northeastern Japan, and down to Tokyo and Yokohama. The
undersecretary of state for administration, Patrick Kennedy, said that
no one would be ordered to leave, but that the government would provide
charter flights for dependents who wanted to leave.
On Thursday evening the American Embassy in Tokyo began offering seats
aboard chartered flights to Americans wishing to evacuate from Japan.
Americans who show up at the two main airports serving Tokyo, Narita and
Haneda, would be flown to still unspecified “safe haven locations” from
where they would be expected to arrange onward travel on their own, said
Karen Kelley, a spokeswoman for the embassy.
The American move followed advisory notices from several European
countries urging their citizens to move away from Tokyo or leave Japan
altogether. On Thursday, Germany said it was moving its embassy
operations from Tokyo to the southern city of Osaka, farther from the
stricken plant.
American officials who have been dealing with their Japanese
counterparts report that the country’s political and bureaucratic
leadership has appeared frozen in place, unwilling to communicate
clearly about the problem’s scope and, in some cases, unwilling to
accept outside assistance. Two American officials said they believed
that the Japanese government itself was not getting a clear picture from
Tokyo Electric. | r******y
发帖数: 9892 | 10 灌得没有蒸得快
【在 s***a 的大作中提到】
: 不是一直在灌水吗？怎么会干呢？
| s******8
发帖数: 4192 | 11 NRC那个家伙估计和花街有一腿。故意的。
今天IAEA出来辟谣了。
【在 f****l 的大作中提到】
: 中午吃饭的时候看NYT，星期三NRC主席Jaczko在国会作证的时候证实，情况比日本政府
: 公布的要严重
: 得多。大概内容：1，泄漏辐射剂量非常大，近距离暴露是致命的。2，50英里是最起码
: 的安全距离。
: 3，4号reactor应该是已经干了，虽然日本人还不承认。5，救援人员很危险，日本面临
: 两难选择，不
: 撤，可能造成伤亡，撤了，只能看着反应堆meltdown。
: 这是obama政府首次作出官方评估，也是在这次事件中首次体出明显背离日本政府评估
: 的结论。
| s*****j
发帖数: 1087 | 12 这明显是危言耸听。现在应该没有问题了，情况会越来越稳定的。最危险的时候应该过
去了。现在要考虑的是如何处理这些反应堆，是报废还是重新修复启动。 | m******e
发帖数: 2515 | |
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