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i*********9
发帖数: 85
1
美联储又一手发行美钞,一手买进国债了,变相的QE3。
Fed balance sheet hits another record size
Reuters Thu Jun 23, 5:01 pm ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) – The Federal Reserve's balance sheet expanded to a
record size in the latest week, as the central bank bought more bonds in an
effort to support the economy, Fed data released on Thursday showed.
The purchase was part of its $600 billion program, dubbed QE2, aimed at
stimulating investment and economic activity.
The balance sheet -- a broad gauge of Fed lending to the financial system --
swelled to $2.841 trillion in the week ended June 22 from $2.811 trillion
the prior week.
The central bank's holding of U.S. government securities grew to $1.602
trillion on Wednesday from last week's $1.576 trillion total.
The central bank has said it will complete QE2 at the end of June, but will
continue to reinvest proceeds from agency bonds and mortgage-backed
securities as they mature.
The Fed's ownership of mortgage bonds guaranteed by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac
and the Government National Mortgage Association (Ginnie Mae) eased to $914.
33 billion from $914.51 billion the previous week.
The Fed's holdings of debt issued by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal
Home Loan Bank were steady at $118.37 billion.
The Fed's overnight direct loans to credit-worthy banks via its discount
window averaged $20 million a day in the week ended Wednesday, compared with
an average daily rate of $24 million last week.
(Reporting by Emily Flitter; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama)
s**********d
发帖数: 36899
2

这。。。难道不是有史以来就是这样的吗?

【在 i*********9 的大作中提到】
: 美联储又一手发行美钞,一手买进国债了,变相的QE3。
: Fed balance sheet hits another record size
: Reuters Thu Jun 23, 5:01 pm ET
: NEW YORK (Reuters) – The Federal Reserve's balance sheet expanded to a
: record size in the latest week, as the central bank bought more bonds in an
: effort to support the economy, Fed data released on Thursday showed.
: The purchase was part of its $600 billion program, dubbed QE2, aimed at
: stimulating investment and economic activity.
: The balance sheet -- a broad gauge of Fed lending to the financial system --
: swelled to $2.841 trillion in the week ended June 22 from $2.811 trillion

i*********9
发帖数: 85
3
现在通货膨胀还不太严重,但一直这样下去,也许有一天,美元贬值到一定程度,那时
美国普通人的生活,以及那时候的美国,不知道会是什么样。。。

【在 s**********d 的大作中提到】
:
: 这。。。难道不是有史以来就是这样的吗?

N*******d
发帖数: 5641
4
贬值不是问题,只要美元还是硬通货就行,这就看美国军事实力了

【在 i*********9 的大作中提到】
: 现在通货膨胀还不太严重,但一直这样下去,也许有一天,美元贬值到一定程度,那时
: 美国普通人的生活,以及那时候的美国,不知道会是什么样。。。

s**********d
发帖数: 36899
5

没关系,只要人民币坚持跟住美元我们的鞋子袜子就不会涨。。。

【在 i*********9 的大作中提到】
: 现在通货膨胀还不太严重,但一直这样下去,也许有一天,美元贬值到一定程度,那时
: 美国普通人的生活,以及那时候的美国,不知道会是什么样。。。

i*********9
发帖数: 85
6
怎么不是问题。刚看到的新闻,美国要向市场投放储备石油了。如果不是因为美元的贬
值,美国的巨额负债,以及为了稳定美国市场可能出现的严重的通货膨胀,美国不至于要动
用储备石油吧。
US and others plan biggest release of reserve oil
AP news By JONATHAN FAHEY and CHRIS KAHN, AP Energy Writers – 19 mins ago
NEW YORK – The United States and other nations that depend on oil imports
will release and sell 60 million barrels of crude from emergency stocks in
an effort to ease the strain of high oil prices on the global economy.
The release by the International Energy Agency, a group of more than two
dozen countries, covers only what the world uses roughly every 16 hours. But
it was enough to send oil prices lower, at least for the moment.
In addition to helping the struggling economies of the U.S. and Europe,
analysts said the move was meant as a rebuke to OPEC, which has refused to
increase oil production to bring down prices.
It will be the largest sale of crude ever from world strategic reserves and
only the third since the IEA was formed in 1974 after the Arab oil embargo.
The IEA released oil in 2005 after Hurricane Katrina and in 1990 and 1991
after Iraq invaded Kuwait.
Half the oil will come from reserves in the U.S. Refiners who turn crude
into gasoline will be able to bid on the extra oil and have it shipped to
them from the salt caverns along the Gulf Coast where it is stored.
The IEA said high oil demand and shortfalls of oil production caused by
unrest in the Middle East and North Africa threatened to "undermine the
fragile global economic recovery."
The uprising in Libya has taken 1.5 million barrels of oil per day off of
the market — half a million barrels less than will be released each day by
the IEA for 30 days.
The price of oil rose to nearly $114 per barrel in at the end of April, the
highest since the summer of 2008, has fallen 20 percent since then to about
$91 a barrel on Thursday. Analysts questioned how much relief the move would
provide the economy, and for how long.
One analyst, Andrew Lipow, said the timing of the announcement, a day after
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke delivered a negative outlook on the
economy, suggests that industrialized countries are grasping for solutions.
He said Americans should expect the price of gasoline to fall, but not
dramatically, in coming weeks.
"Fifteen or 20 cents a gallon of relief is not enough to make people feel
good about their job prospects or losses on the stock market or our general
economic slowdown," he said.
The IEA and the White House said they were acting to increase the supply of
oil available during the peak summer driving season.
"We are taking this action in response to the ongoing loss of crude oil due
to supply disruptions in Libya and other countries and their impact on the
global economic recovery," Energy Secretary Steven Chu said.
Gas prices have already fallen for 20 days in a row. They were down another
penny Wednesday, to a nationwide average of $3.61 per gallon, according to
the AAA Daily Fuel Gauge Report. That's about 21 cents lower than a month
ago. Gas prices peaked this year at a national average of $3.98 per gallon
in early May.
The timing of the release brought criticism from business groups and
Republican lawmakers, who accused President Barack Obama of playing politics
with the country's oil reserves, which are intended to address emergencies.
The amount of oil to be released, 2 million barrels per day, represents 2.2
percent of daily global oil demand. The 60 million barrels to be released
over the span of a month is less than one day's demand, about 89 million
barrels.
The IEA left open the possibility that it could continue the program after a
month.
The IEA's move comes two weeks after OPEC, the Organization of Petroleum
Exporting Countries, decided during a tense meeting not to increase oil
production to meet rising demand. OPEC is made up primarily of Middle
Eastern and North African nations.
OPEC countries are divided over whether to increase supply. Iran and
Venezuela want to keep production stable in hopes of keeping prices — and
revenue — high. Saudi Arabia wants to increase production, fearing that
high oil prices will hurt the global economy and reduce oil demand over the
long term.
The head of the IEA, Nobuo Tanaka, expressed disappointment about OPEC's
decision after that meeting. At a news conference Thursday in Paris, he said
the IEA's action would "contribute to ensuring that adequate supplies are
available to the global market."
Kevin Book, an analyst at Clearview Energy Partners, said the move was the
first time the IEA has used its reserves as a weapon "to send an
unforgettable message to OPEC."
The reserves, he said, have always acted as a shield. "Now we are using it
to bludgeon prices globally. This is the first time we've used our shield as
a club."
In addition, Book said, it sends a signal to oil investors that governments
will go to great lengths to fight high oil prices. These oil investors,
including banks, mutual funds and pension funds, buy contracts for oil in
hopes the price will go up, but they don't actually use the oil. Critics
have said these investors, derided as speculators, have helped push oil
prices far higher than they would otherwise be.
"Part of the reason to do this is to make anyone on the other side of oil
consumers, whether it is speculators or oil cartels, worried that it will
happen again," Book said.
Oil finished trading at $95.41 on Wednesday just before Fed Chairman Ben
Bernanke said the economy may be in bigger trouble than previously thought.
Prices dropped to about $94 overnight and then fell as low as $89 per barrel
after the IEA announcement. Oil finished trading Thursday at $91.02.
Worldwide oil demand is at record levels because the recovering economies of
the West and the surging economies of Asia are burning more gasoline,
diesel and jet fuel.
The unrest in the Middle East this spring cut into supply. Those two factors
drove prices higher, raising costs for shippers, travelers and commuters
and leaving people less money to spend on clothes, entertainment and travel.
The U.S. economy grew at a rate of 1.8 percent in the first quarter of this
year, down from 3.1 percent in the previous quarter, in part as a result of
high gasoline prices.
Oil prices fell later in the spring, though, as the U.S. economy appeared to
slow and Greece's financial crisis threatened to spread to the rest of
Europe. Reports that Saudi Arabia would increase production in defiance of
OPEC helped send prices lower in recent days. It's unclear whether Saudi
Arabia has begun to do so, or still might.
Also, oil supplies in the U.S. are among their highest levels ever, a result
in part of rising North American production and less consumption.
Analysts said that while the IEA move will lower oil prices in the short
term, it also reveals major concerns about the ability of oil producers to
meet growing world demand in the future. If they can't, oil prices will rise
dramatically.
Bernard Baumohl, chief global economist at the Economic Outlook Group, said
oil would have to drop below $80 a barrel to have much economic impact on
the economy. He said he doesn't think the 60 million barrels is enough to do
that.
"The argument is, if we can lower oil prices that would be a major tax cut,"
Baumohl said. "The logic is fine. Whether it can successfully be carried
out is the question. And I don't think it can."
IEA members are required to hold in reserve the equivalent of what they
would import in 90 days, though countries collectively now hold 146 days'
supply.
The U.S. stocks, called the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, hold 727 million
barrels. The reserve has never been fuller. It held 707 million barrels
before the U.S. last tapped the reserve in 2008 in response to supply
disruptions caused by Hurricanes Gustav and Ike.
The IEA decision will free about 30 million barrels in the United States.
Europe will release 18 million barrels and industrialized countries in Asia
12 million.
For U.S. refiners, bidding for the oil now held in reserve will mean having
to import less from abroad. The 1 million barrels per day to be released is
about 20 percent of what refiners on the Gulf Coast, where the oil will go,
import.
The U.S. imports a total of about 11 million barrels of oil a day and
consumes about 19 million barrels.
___
Paul Wiseman contributed to this story from Washington D.C. Jonathan Fahey
can be reached at twitter.com/JonathanFahey. Chris Kahn can be reached at
twitter.com/ChrisKahnAP.

【在 N*******d 的大作中提到】
: 贬值不是问题,只要美元还是硬通货就行,这就看美国军事实力了
m**********r
发帖数: 887
7
根本就是想吹泡泡。。。

【在 i*********9 的大作中提到】
: 现在通货膨胀还不太严重,但一直这样下去,也许有一天,美元贬值到一定程度,那时
: 美国普通人的生活,以及那时候的美国,不知道会是什么样。。。

N*******d
发帖数: 5641
8
只要还是全球货币,通货膨胀就会被稀释掉

于要动
But

【在 i*********9 的大作中提到】
: 怎么不是问题。刚看到的新闻,美国要向市场投放储备石油了。如果不是因为美元的贬
: 值,美国的巨额负债,以及为了稳定美国市场可能出现的严重的通货膨胀,美国不至于要动
: 用储备石油吧。
: US and others plan biggest release of reserve oil
: AP news By JONATHAN FAHEY and CHRIS KAHN, AP Energy Writers – 19 mins ago
: NEW YORK – The United States and other nations that depend on oil imports
: will release and sell 60 million barrels of crude from emergency stocks in
: an effort to ease the strain of high oil prices on the global economy.
: The release by the International Energy Agency, a group of more than two
: dozen countries, covers only what the world uses roughly every 16 hours. But

i*********9
发帖数: 85
9
长远的看,如果在五到十年的过程中,美国一直主要靠美联储购买国债,美元一直这样
贬值下去,美元的国际主要流通货币的地位能一直的保持下去吗?世界57亿人就这样一
直这么纵容着这3亿人?

【在 N*******d 的大作中提到】
: 只要还是全球货币,通货膨胀就会被稀释掉
:
: 于要动
: But

s******t
发帖数: 12883
10
中国的十三亿就没有发言权. 党妈自己决定继续增持美债.

【在 i*********9 的大作中提到】
: 长远的看,如果在五到十年的过程中,美国一直主要靠美联储购买国债,美元一直这样
: 贬值下去,美元的国际主要流通货币的地位能一直的保持下去吗?世界57亿人就这样一
: 直这么纵容着这3亿人?

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N*******d
发帖数: 5641
11
你想不纵容有用么,航母在那呢,金融也被把持着

【在 i*********9 的大作中提到】
: 长远的看,如果在五到十年的过程中,美国一直主要靠美联储购买国债,美元一直这样
: 贬值下去,美元的国际主要流通货币的地位能一直的保持下去吗?世界57亿人就这样一
: 直这么纵容着这3亿人?

i*********9
发帖数: 85
12
别阴阳怪调的,想骂共产党去别的地儿去。现在欧洲形势也不好,短期内美元还可能小
幅度波动,甚至上涨。但长期,估计不会大幅度增持了。跟以前比较的,增持幅度比以
前明显小。

【在 s******t 的大作中提到】
: 中国的十三亿就没有发言权. 党妈自己决定继续增持美债.
i*********9
发帖数: 85
13
行吧,算我杞人忧天。

【在 N*******d 的大作中提到】
: 你想不纵容有用么,航母在那呢,金融也被把持着
R****a
发帖数: 6858
14
未来10年还好,因为中国的航母编队还未建好,10年后航母建好了,可以全球掌控能源
和原材料了,美元就开始完蛋了。
10年后也是我打算回国的时候
m**c
发帖数: 192
15
等那时候回去连汤都没给你剩下

【在 R****a 的大作中提到】
: 未来10年还好,因为中国的航母编队还未建好,10年后航母建好了,可以全球掌控能源
: 和原材料了,美元就开始完蛋了。
: 10年后也是我打算回国的时候

g******t
发帖数: 18158
16
也许有一天
也许有一天外星人来到地球把大家的钱都抢走,大家都成了穷光蛋

【在 i*********9 的大作中提到】
: 现在通货膨胀还不太严重,但一直这样下去,也许有一天,美元贬值到一定程度,那时
: 美国普通人的生活,以及那时候的美国,不知道会是什么样。。。

p********a
发帖数: 6437
17
didn't u read?
check ur own text!
that's final of QE2, nothing about QE3.

【在 i*********9 的大作中提到】
: 行吧,算我杞人忧天。
i*********9
发帖数: 85
18
The central bank has said it will complete QE2 at the end of June, but will
continue to reinvest proceeds from agency bonds and mortgage-
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
backed securities as they mature.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
But now i reflect that "doomed" word is not very accurate. i was just
surprised at the two pieces of news i read today. it is difficult to predict
what American economy will be like... but i trust that many people have
grave concerns about it.

【在 p********a 的大作中提到】
: didn't u read?
: check ur own text!
: that's final of QE2, nothing about QE3.

f***a
发帖数: 7286
19
10年以后中国早崩溃了

【在 R****a 的大作中提到】
: 未来10年还好,因为中国的航母编队还未建好,10年后航母建好了,可以全球掌控能源
: 和原材料了,美元就开始完蛋了。
: 10年后也是我打算回国的时候

R****a
发帖数: 6858
20

中国是震动模式,每年都崩溃几次的

【在 f***a 的大作中提到】
: 10年以后中国早崩溃了
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g*******d
发帖数: 5873
21
只要这个世界没有出现一个可以挑战美国地位的国家
美国就仍然是世界军事金融帝国,美元就仍然是国际货币
美国就可以继续过这种日子

an

【在 i*********9 的大作中提到】
: 美联储又一手发行美钞,一手买进国债了,变相的QE3。
: Fed balance sheet hits another record size
: Reuters Thu Jun 23, 5:01 pm ET
: NEW YORK (Reuters) – The Federal Reserve's balance sheet expanded to a
: record size in the latest week, as the central bank bought more bonds in an
: effort to support the economy, Fed data released on Thursday showed.
: The purchase was part of its $600 billion program, dubbed QE2, aimed at
: stimulating investment and economic activity.
: The balance sheet -- a broad gauge of Fed lending to the financial system --
: swelled to $2.841 trillion in the week ended June 22 from $2.811 trillion

h****o
发帖数: 351
22
市场要大跌一次才有可能QE3.那个时候大家都很惨,没人反对了,现在不可能,阻力很
大。
s*******n
发帖数: 4605
23
也就是说,现在世界上流通的美钞一共有
$1.602 trillion+$914.33 billion+$118.37 billion+$20 million
=$2.634 trillion
n******g
发帖数: 17225
24
多少还是替美国着急。虽然现在有军事实力和全球货币两个保障,使得通胀还能接受,
但是这何时是个头呢?有没有扭亏为盈的可能呢?
可别走上福利国家的不归路啊!那样经济就彻底没活力了。
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