d*******r
发帖数: 3875 | 1 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-22/philippine-maid-seeks-
Hong Kong’s policy of denying permanent-residence rights to foreign maids is being challenged as unconstitutional, stoking public debate over ethnic discrimination in the Chinese city.
Evangeline Banao Vallejos, a domestic helper from the Philippines who has lived in Hong Kong since 1986, asked the Court of First Instance today to rule that an immigration law, which deems imported domestic helpers ineligible for rights such as voting and setting up a business, contradicts Hong Kong’s constitution, the Basic Law.
The Basic Law allows non-Chinese people to apply for permanent residence after living in the special administrative region continuously for seven years. At least three political parties in Hong Kong have said equal-residence rights for the city’s domestic helpers would strain health care, education and public housing resources.
“Certainly the Basic Law is being tested here,” Peter Barnes, a lawyer representing Vallejos, said in a telephone interview last week. “If the words of a constitution don’t have meaning other than what you say it means, what’s the point of having a constitution?”
A tribunal last year dismissed Vallejos’ appeal against a government decision denying her permanent-resident status and said the constitution allows for laws that exclude maids and other classes of workers from its provisions, according to her court filing.
Independent Judiciary
Secretary for Justice Wong Yan Lung, in an Aug. 17 press statement, urged the public to avoid as far as possible making comments which might prejudice the court’s decision.
The public will be fully informed of the government’s stance at the hearing, Wong said.
Imported domestic helpers in Hong Kong are required to live with their employers and aren’t allowed to accept other jobs. In 2004, the maids contributed HK$13.8 billion ($1.8 billion) to the local economy, or one percent of Hong Kong’s total economic output that year, according to a report by the Asian Migrant Centre, a non-governmental organization.
“They released a lot of the local female labor force into the market and enabled them to take jobs,” Liu Pak Wai, an economics professor at The Chinese University of Hong Kong, said in a telephone interview.
Middle-Class Demand
Hong Kong began allowing locals to hire domestic help from abroad in the 1970s. The population of imported help grew from 881 in 1974 to 70,335 in 1990, the government said in court filings. Liu said the foreign workers now comprise some 300,000 of the city’s 7.1 million residents, their numbers buoyed by strong demand from middle-class Hong Kong families.
Ethnic tensions between the local population and the foreign help flared a year ago after eight Hong Kong tourists were killed by a hostage-taker in Manila.
The Philippine government appealed to the Hong Kong people to refrain from taking out their anger against Filipinos in the city, while tens of thousands of Hong Kong residents participated in a march to demand a thorough investigation in the Southeast Asian country.
In 2003, over 10,000 foreign maids marched against the Hong Kong government’s decision to cut their minimum wage while levying a tax on their employers. Then-Philippine president Gloria Arroyo imposed a temporary freeze on approvals for Filipinos to work in Hong Kong in protest.
Beijing Intepretation Call
Social commentators and academics have criticized comments by the Liberal Party and New People’s Party leader Regina Ip, who called on the government to consider seeking an interpretation of the Basic Law by China’s Standing Committee of the National People’s Congress. Hong Kong’s population is 95 percent ethnic Chinese, according to the most recent census data from 2006.
Fernando Cheung, a lecturer at Hong Kong Polytechnic University, wrote in the South China Morning Post on Aug. 18 that the Hong Kong people should remember the discrimination suffered by the Chinese population in the U.S. under the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882. The law, which stood for 61 years, restricted immigration and prohibited Chinese from becoming U.S. citizens.
Justice secretary Wong urged the public to refrain from making inflammatory comments.
People should “show the greatest respect to our Court and our legal system, and to avoid as far as possible making any comments which might prejudice or affect the Court’s adjudication of the case,” he said in the statement.
The special administrative region was guaranteed an independent judiciary for 50 years under the “one country, two systems” framework following the handover from British to Chinese rule in 1997.
The case is Vallejos Evangeline Banao, also known as Vallejos Evangeline B. and Commissioner of Registration, HCAL124/2010 in Hong Kong’s Court of First Instance. |
b*******k
发帖数: 16989 | 2 统统驱逐出境
【在 d*******r 的大作中提到】
: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-22/philippine-maid-seeks-
: Hong Kong’s policy of denying permanent-residence rights to foreign maids is being challenged as unconstitutional, stoking public debate over ethnic discrimination in the Chinese city.
: Evangeline Banao Vallejos, a domestic helper from the Philippines who has lived in Hong Kong since 1986, asked the Court of First Instance today to rule that an immigration law, which deems imported domestic helpers ineligible for rights such as voting and setting up a business, contradicts Hong Kong’s constitution, the Basic Law.
: The Basic Law allows non-Chinese people to apply for permanent residence after living in the special administrative region continuously for seven years. At least three political parties in Hong Kong have said equal-residence rights for the city’s domestic helpers would strain health care, education and public housing resources.
: “Certainly the Basic Law is being tested here,” Peter Barnes, a lawyer representing Vallejos, said in a telephone interview last week. “If the words of a constitution don’t have meaning other than what you say it means, what’s the point of having a constitution?”
: A tribunal last year dismissed Vallejos’ appeal against a government decision denying her permanent-resident status and said the constitution allows for laws that exclude maids and other classes of workers from its provisions, according to her court filing.
: Independent Judiciary
: Secretary for Justice Wong Yan Lung, in an Aug. 17 press statement, urged the public to avoid as far as possible making comments which might prejudice the court’s decision.
: The public will be fully informed of the government’s stance at the hearing, Wong said.
: Imported domestic helpers in Hong Kong are required to live with their employers and aren’t allowed to accept other jobs. In 2004, the maids contributed HK$13.8 billion ($1.8 billion) to the local economy, or one percent of Hong Kong’s total economic output that year, according to a report by the Asian Migrant Centre, a non-governmental organization.
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d*******r
发帖数: 3875 | 5 我觉得可行的办法不是释法，而是行政性的，即入境处在发放菲佣工作许可时，对于不
声明放弃申请永久居留权的一律不批准。这一规定不落在纸面，而是通过暗示等等传达
给菲佣中介，他们不介意干这些脏活，也没有人权压力。99…%以上的菲佣都不打算申
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C*******d
发帖数: 15836 | 6 不要说这么邪恶的话。要知道这个版绝大多数也是来这个国家找生活的外国人。这个国
家也有想把我们
赶出去的人。
【在 e******e 的大作中提到】
: 给他们挖个坑，统统活埋，永久居住吧
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e******e
发帖数: 3472 | 7 说这话也是气愤而已，香港旅游团在菲律宾死了十几个，他们的总统竟在道歉时笑，对
这样的人种实在无法以人之常情待之
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: 不要说这么邪恶的话。要知道这个版绝大多数也是来这个国家找生活的外国人。这个国
: 家也有想把我们
: 赶出去的人。
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s**********d
发帖数: 36899 | 8
香港人就上街游行了。
【在 z****e 的大作中提到】
: 直接递解出境了事
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C*******d
发帖数: 15836 | 9 但是不能以偏概全啊。想想个别华人在美国也杀过人。卢刚杀了好几个美国人，而且很
多中国人也为他叫好，难道说美国人也有理由把我们也活埋了？
【在 e******e 的大作中提到】
: 说这话也是气愤而已，香港旅游团在菲律宾死了十几个，他们的总统竟在道歉时笑，对
: 这样的人种实在无法以人之常情待之
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m***6
发帖数: 8479 | 10 最好美国把所有外来人都赶走，把北美还给印第安人
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: 不要说这么邪恶的话。要知道这个版绝大多数也是来这个国家找生活的外国人。这个国
: 家也有想把我们
: 赶出去的人。
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m***6
发帖数: 8479 | 11 香港抗议大陆人在香港生孩子，老将们high了。
这次对菲佣，却关怀无限，我了个去 |
c***l
发帖数: 13273 | 12 菲佣这次闹得过分了。
50万菲佣x4口/家，活生生多了200万香港人，偷渡都没这么便宜 |
x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 13 你这就不普世了。
【在 c***l 的大作中提到】
: 菲佣这次闹得过分了。
: 50万菲佣x4口/家，活生生多了200万香港人，偷渡都没这么便宜
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C*******d
发帖数: 15836 | 14 你喜欢这么干我也拦不住你。但是我想没有多少人会跟你一样的。
【在 m***6 的大作中提到】
: 最好美国把所有外来人都赶走，把北美还给印第安人
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d*******r
发帖数: 3875 | 15 还有就是改PR法律，改成新加坡那样的，只写eligible,但不保证批准。
【在 d*******r 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得可行的办法不是释法，而是行政性的，即入境处在发放菲佣工作许可时，对于不
: 声明放弃申请永久居留权的一律不批准。这一规定不落在纸面，而是通过暗示等等传达
: 给菲佣中介，他们不介意干这些脏活，也没有人权压力。99…%以上的菲佣都不打算申
: 请长期居留权，所以不愁大批菲佣都会签字放弃。
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c***l
发帖数: 13273 | 16 我的普世只是对本国人民。
对外族互不侵犯就行了，事不关己，高高挂起。
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 你这就不普世了。
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 17 菲佣和白皮相比哪个更有资格当香港人？
【在 c***l 的大作中提到】
: 我的普世只是对本国人民。
: 对外族互不侵犯就行了，事不关己，高高挂起。
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c***l
发帖数: 13273 | 18 都没有资格，或者资格等级相同。
香港是中国人的。
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 菲佣和白皮相比哪个更有资格当香港人？
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 19 你对大陆产妇怎么看？
【在 c***l 的大作中提到】
: 都没有资格，或者资格等级相同。
: 香港是中国人的。
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c***l
发帖数: 13273 | 20 我觉得如果父母一方是香港人，儿女获取香港身份证是天经地义的。
如果父母都不是香港人，在香港出生就要拿香港户籍，的确是有问题，不堪重负。
但是大陆人在香港工作7年，是可以申请成为香港居民的。和菲佣不同。
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 你对大陆产妇怎么看？
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 21 搞户籍歧视，就不普世了。
对于菲佣，我觉得他们有权拿香港户籍，中国国籍要按程序来。
【在 c***l 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得如果父母一方是香港人，儿女获取香港身份证是天经地义的。
: 如果父母都不是香港人，在香港出生就要拿香港户籍，的确是有问题，不堪重负。
: 但是大陆人在香港工作7年，是可以申请成为香港居民的。和菲佣不同。
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c***l
发帖数: 13273 | 22 你错了
菲佣不同于 一般受雇的工作人员
他们刚开始的时候，和雇主签约就写了没有移民的条例。
无奈现在是律师想出名想疯了
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 搞户籍歧视，就不普世了。
: 对于菲佣，我觉得他们有权拿香港户籍，中国国籍要按程序来。
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 23 这个法不普世，是恶法。在大陆工作满五年即可获得国籍，你们不要拿基本法当挡箭牌。
【在 c***l 的大作中提到】
: 你错了
: 菲佣不同于 一般受雇的工作人员
: 他们刚开始的时候，和雇主签约就写了没有移民的条例。
: 无奈现在是律师想出名想疯了
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c***l
发帖数: 13273 | 24 大陆不是移民国家
--国务院发言人
牌。
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 这个法不普世，是恶法。在大陆工作满五年即可获得国籍，你们不要拿基本法当挡箭牌。
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 25 五年可以拿国籍是没错的，你不用怀疑了。
【在 c***l 的大作中提到】
: 大陆不是移民国家
: --国务院发言人
:
: 牌。
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m***6
发帖数: 8479 | 26 是之谓双重标准
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: 你喜欢这么干我也拦不住你。但是我想没有多少人会跟你一样的。
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m***6
发帖数: 8479 | 27 re
赞！
【在 c***l 的大作中提到】
: 我的普世只是对本国人民。
: 对外族互不侵犯就行了，事不关己，高高挂起。
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s***q
发帖数: 10585 | 28 re!
【在 m***6 的大作中提到】
: 香港抗议大陆人在香港生孩子，老将们high了。
: 这次对菲佣，却关怀无限，我了个去
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s***q
发帖数: 10585 | 29 注意普世！
【在 c***l 的大作中提到】
: 菲佣这次闹得过分了。
: 50万菲佣x4口/家，活生生多了200万香港人，偷渡都没这么便宜
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m***6
发帖数: 8479 | 30 中国国籍法哪有那么松？
没有中国血统你试试？
牌。
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 这个法不普世，是恶法。在大陆工作满五年即可获得国籍，你们不要拿基本法当挡箭牌。
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发帖数: 22772 | 31 一个是新大陆自由移民国家，一个是旧大陆非移民国家，不是能象你那样类比的
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: 不要说这么邪恶的话。要知道这个版绝大多数也是来这个国家找生活的外国人。这个国
: 家也有想把我们
: 赶出去的人。
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p**********n
发帖数: 459 | 32 看来中国人说的己所不欲，勿施于人也就是嘴上说说而已，到了真正关键时刻，自私的
嘴脸还是流露出来了。
【在 H*********S 的大作中提到】
: 一个是新大陆自由移民国家，一个是旧大陆非移民国家，不是能象你那样类比的
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发帖数: 20533 | |
x****u
发帖数: 12955 | 34
Nothing this obvious is needed. Government just need to say all these maid
came into HK under a specific visa that can't be transfered into permanent
resident status. They need to change that visa to a general visa first
before they can apply for permanent residency. Of course, to change visa
type, they have to go back to their home country and go through visa
application process. Of course, then they can all be denied entry visa
because of suspicion of seeking residency.
【在 d*******r 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得可行的办法不是释法，而是行政性的，即入境处在发放菲佣工作许可时，对于不
: 声明放弃申请永久居留权的一律不批准。这一规定不落在纸面，而是通过暗示等等传达
: 给菲佣中介，他们不介意干这些脏活，也没有人权压力。99…%以上的菲佣都不打算申
: 请长期居留权，所以不愁大批菲佣都会签字放弃。
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d******g
发帖数: 6966 | 35 菲猪都去死..给他们个贱民卡就不错了..每年付个几千块更新贱民卡再叫就赶到海里去 |
j****c
发帖数: 19908 | 36 大陆人在香港工作拿的工作签证跟菲佣的劳工签证不一样，后者不适用于那个满七年就
可以申请香港永久居民的政策
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
: 搞户籍歧视，就不普世了。
: 对于菲佣，我觉得他们有权拿香港户籍，中国国籍要按程序来。
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