l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 1 79年波斯革命以来怎么就突然瞄上犹太国了？两家以前也没打过吧，革命前还盟友呢。
而且波斯和大多数阿拉白国家都不对付，干嘛非掐犹太国？ |
p********7
发帖数: 18007 | 2 犹太, Cancer of human being |
o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 3 Try to win over Arab ppl.
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: 79年波斯革命以来怎么就突然瞄上犹太国了？两家以前也没打过吧，革命前还盟友呢。
: 而且波斯和大多数阿拉白国家都不对付，干嘛非掐犹太国？
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l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 4 don't get it
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: Try to win over Arab ppl.
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p******u
发帖数: 14642 | 5 统一国内民心，另外拉拢叶什穆斯林
【在 l********k 的大作中提到】
: 79年波斯革命以来怎么就突然瞄上犹太国了？两家以前也没打过吧，革命前还盟友呢。
: 而且波斯和大多数阿拉白国家都不对付，干嘛非掐犹太国？
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p******u
发帖数: 14642 | 6 你跟阿拉伯人的公敌玩强硬就能得到阿拉伯人的向心啊
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: don't get it
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d****z
发帖数: 9761 | 7 不得不说，JEWS的确是很犯贱
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: 犹太, Cancer of human being
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 8 Iran is surrounded by Arab countries. Iran wants to ppl in those Arab
countries to hate Israel, not Iran.
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: don't get it
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l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 9 也就赢得了一个叙利亚，还正在风雨飘摇中...
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: 你跟阿拉伯人的公敌玩强硬就能得到阿拉伯人的向心啊
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d****z
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l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 11 不是环绕吧，北面阿富汗，东面小巴、老印，都不是阿拉白人，而是白人的后裔。以色
列才是真正被环绕
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: Iran is surrounded by Arab countries. Iran wants to ppl in those Arab
: countries to hate Israel, not Iran.
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 12 Its president claimed that Israel should be wiped out from the earth.
【在 d****z 的大作中提到】
: 伊朗真的嚷嚷了要消灭犹太国吗？
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l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 13 反正犹太人是这么说的，波斯人也不完全否认，尽管波斯总统嘴上打太极拳。犹太人总
是很有危机意识，凡是周边的大国都被当成是假想敌。
【在 d****z 的大作中提到】
: 伊朗真的嚷嚷了要消灭犹太国吗？
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l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 14 我也听说过，求科普一下总统说这话的具体年代和场合，谢谢。
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: Its president claimed that Israel should be wiped out from the earth.
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 15 Iran's new president has repeated a remark from a former ayatollah that
Israel should be "wiped out from the map," insisting that a new series of
attacks will destroy the Jewish state, and lashing out at Muslim countries
and leaders that acknowledge Israel.
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: 我也听说过，求科普一下总统说这话的具体年代和场合，谢谢。
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d****z
发帖数: 9503 | 16 Did he really said that? Or just you are told that he said that.
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: Its president claimed that Israel should be wiped out from the earth.
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d****z
发帖数: 9503 | 17 赞被洗脑成功。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: Iran's new president has repeated a remark from a former ayatollah that
: Israel should be "wiped out from the map," insisting that a new series of
: attacks will destroy the Jewish state, and lashing out at Muslim countries
: and leaders that acknowledge Israel.
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 18 By Country / Iran
Iran: President Says Israel Should Be 'Wiped Off Map'
October 27, 2005
By Golnaz Esfandiari
President Ahmadinejad speaking at the conference in Tehran (Fars)
President Ahmadinejad speaking at the conference in Tehran (Fars)
Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad's call for Israel to be "wiped off the
map" has triggered a sharp international response and widespread
condemnation. Ahmadinejad made the comments yesterday at a conference in
Tehran entitled "The World without Zionism." Following the remarks, Israel
said it considers Iran "a clear and present danger" and Washington said the
comments highlight U.S. concerns about Iran's nuclear activities. Several
countries, including Great Britain, France, and Spain said they would summon
their Iranian envoys to demand an explanation.
Prague, 27 October 2005 (RFE/RL) -- Iran抯 President Mahmud Ahmadinejad
yesterday cited comments by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the founder of the
Islamic revolution, when he declared, "As the imam said, Israel must be
wiped off the map."
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: Did he really said that? Or just you are told that he said that.
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R*******N
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xt
发帖数: 17532 | 20 No, he is telling YOU that the Iranian said that.
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: Did he really said that? Or just you are told that he said that.
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 21 No. I heard that from the news.
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: No, he is telling YOU that the Iranian said that.
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p*****p
发帖数: 19331 | 22 我认识一伊朗小将说，伊朗人民不喜欢多妻教
伊朗本来信的是拜火教，比多妻教历史悠久，后来伊朗被多妻教征服了，但是伊朗在多
妻教世界并不受待见。
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: 统一国内民心，另外拉拢叶什穆斯林
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d****z
发帖数: 9503 | 23 How do you know what you heard is right? Before this post, did you even know
there is controversy about this?
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: No. I heard that from the news.
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 24 I am not surprised that he would said that ah.
know
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: How do you know what you heard is right? Before this post, did you even know
: there is controversy about this?
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D*******o
发帖数: 3229 | 25 和几个波斯人打过交道，感觉普遍不诚实，心还黑。你让一寸，他进三尺，你一强硬他就软了。我不看好伊朗，估计就是嘴上厉害，一见刀兵就掉链子。 |
d****z
发帖数: 9503 | 26 Whether you are surprised or not is completely irrelevant here. The question
is whether he did say that.
And do you even know there is a controversy about this before this post?
Probably not. hehe.
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: I am not surprised that he would said that ah.
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: know
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xt
发帖数: 17532 | 27 He might know, but he would not expect you know.
know
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: How do you know what you heard is right? Before this post, did you even know
: there is controversy about this?
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m**********2
发帖数: 6568 | 28 前天看了个老美在伊朗拍的旅游片。清真寺里扯着标语写着消灭以色列
【在 l********k 的大作中提到】
: 我也听说过，求科普一下总统说这话的具体年代和场合，谢谢。
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xt
发帖数: 17532 | 29 跟你说：中东人都差不多这样。不过我有个伊朗哥们还行，
喜欢贪小便宜是真，不过人还厚道。
他就软了。我不看好伊朗，估计就是嘴上厉害，一见刀兵就掉链子。
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: 和几个波斯人打过交道，感觉普遍不诚实，心还黑。你让一寸，他进三尺，你一强硬他就软了。我不看好伊朗，估计就是嘴上厉害，一见刀兵就掉链子。
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l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 30 Does Iran's President wants Israel wiped off the map?
如果嫌太长，请看最后一段
To raze Israel to the ground, to batter down, to destroy, to annihilate, to
liquidate, to erase Israel, to wipe it off the map - this is what Iran's
President demanded - at least this is what we read about or heard of at the
end of October 2005. Spreading the news was very effective. This is a
declaration of war they said. Obviously government and media were at one
with their indignation. It goes around the world.
But let's take a closer look at what Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
said. It is a merit of the 'New York Times' that they placed the complete
speech at our disposal. Here's an excerpt from the publication dated 2005-10
-30:
"They say it is not possible to have a world without the United States and
Zionism. But you know that this is a possible goal and slogan. Let's take a
step back. [[[We had a hostile regime in this country which was undemocratic
, armed to the teeth and, with SAVAK, its security apparatus of SAVAK [the
intelligence bureau of the Shah of Iran's government] watched everyone. An
environment of terror existed.]]] When our dear Imam [Ayatollah Ruhollah
Khomeini, the founder of the Iranian revolution] said that the regime must
be removed, many of those who claimed to be politically well-informed said
it was not possible. All the corrupt governments were in support of the
regime when Imam Khomeini started his movement. [[[All the Western and
Eastern countries supported the regime even after the massacre of September
7 [1978] ]]] and said the removal of the regime was not possible. But our
people resisted and it is 27 years now that we have survived without a
regime dependent on the United States. The tyranny of the East and the West
over the world should have to end, but weak people who can see only what
lies in front of them cannot believe this. Who would believe that one day we
could witness the collapse of the Eastern Empire? But we could watch its
fall in our lifetime. And it collapsed in a way that we have to refer to
libraries because no trace of it is left. Imam [Khomeini] said Saddam must
go and he said he would grow weaker than anyone could imagine. Now you see
the man who spoke with such arrogance ten years ago that one would have
thought he was immortal, is being tried in his own country in handcuffs and
shackles [[[by those who he believed supported him and with whose backing he
committed his crimes]]]. Our dear Imam said that the occupying regime must
be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement. We cannot
compromise over the issue of Palestine. Is it possible to create a new front
in the heart of an old front. This would be a defeat and whoever accepts
the legitimacy of this regime [Israel] has in fact, signed the defeat of the
Islamic world. Our dear Imam targeted the heart of the world oppressor in
his struggle, meaning the occupying regime. I have no doubt that the new
wave that has started in Palestine, and we witness it in the Islamic world
too, will eliminate this disgraceful stain from the Islamic world."
(source: www.nytimes.com, based on a publication of 'Iranian Students News
Agency' (ISNA) -- insertions by the New York Times in squared brackets --
passages in triple squared brackets will be left blank in the MEMRI version
printed below)
It's becoming clear. The statements of the Iranian President have been
reflected by the media in a manipulated way. Iran's President betokens the
removal of the regimes, that are in power in Israel and in the USA, to be
possible aim for the future. This is correct. But he never demands the
elimination or annihilation of Israel. He reveals that changes are potential
. The Shah-Regime being supported by the USA in its own country has been
vanquished. The eastern governance of the Soviet Union collapsed. Saddam
Hussein's dominion drew to a close. Referring to this he voices his
aspiration that changes will also be feasible in Israel respectively in
Palestine. He adduces Ayatollah Khomeini referring to the Shah-Regime who in
this context said that the regime (meaning the Shah-Regime) should be
removed.
全文：
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12790.htm
the
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: By Country / Iran
: Iran: President Says Israel Should Be 'Wiped Off Map'
: October 27, 2005
: By Golnaz Esfandiari
: President Ahmadinejad speaking at the conference in Tehran (Fars)
: President Ahmadinejad speaking at the conference in Tehran (Fars)
: Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad's call for Israel to be "wiped off the
: map" has triggered a sharp international response and widespread
: condemnation. Ahmadinejad made the comments yesterday at a conference in
: Tehran entitled "The World without Zionism." Following the remarks, Israel
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l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 31 言论自由？任何标语不代表政府立场？
【在 m**********2 的大作中提到】
: 前天看了个老美在伊朗拍的旅游片。清真寺里扯着标语写着消灭以色列
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l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 32 犹太人，印度人，老中，谁不是这样...
【在 xt 的大作中提到】
: 跟你说：中东人都差不多这样。不过我有个伊朗哥们还行，
: 喜欢贪小便宜是真，不过人还厚道。
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: 他就软了。我不看好伊朗，估计就是嘴上厉害，一见刀兵就掉链子。
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xt
发帖数: 17532 | 33 犹太人也一样，如果不是更过分的话。
中东人这方面非常厉害，对自家的东西看得非常非常严，
我那伊朗哥们关系还不错，趁老婆不在拿出她家的私家
照片给我们看，这个在中东是比较忌讳的。
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: 犹太人，印度人，老中，谁不是这样...
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m**********2
发帖数: 6568 | 34 跟我小时候到处都是的大标语
一定要解放台湾
差不多吧
既是政府旨意
也是民意
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: 言论自由？任何标语不代表政府立场？
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