I********l
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 2 Then the war will last forever.
【在 I********l 的大作中提到】
: 目的是打倒党内的新资产阶级当权派。
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I********l
发帖数: 8702 | 3 美国也一样啊，class war
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: Then the war will last forever.
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R*******N
发帖数: 7494 | 4 没有文革，那建国也就没了意义。反正都是少爷小姐，又何必折腾进去几百万中国士兵
的性命。不少在抗战前线杀了多少敌寇，最后却死在了自己人手上。 |
o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 5 But not that violent ah.
If ppl could peacefully elect the officials, same effects.
【在 I********l 的大作中提到】
: 美国也一样啊，class war
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b*******8
发帖数: 37364 | 6 此言甚是。太祖是不满足于仅仅重复一次以前开国皇帝的功绩的。建国才是万里长征走
完第一步，一点都不夸张。
【在 R*******N 的大作中提到】
: 没有文革，那建国也就没了意义。反正都是少爷小姐，又何必折腾进去几百万中国士兵
: 的性命。不少在抗战前线杀了多少敌寇，最后却死在了自己人手上。
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I********l
发帖数: 8702 | 7 CR differs from other conventional wars because it uses talk rather than
fight to achieve the success.
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: Then the war will last forever.
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 8 Do you really think those officials were out of their offices by just talks?
【在 I********l 的大作中提到】
: CR differs from other conventional wars because it uses talk rather than
: fight to achieve the success.
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I********l
发帖数: 8702 | 9 compared to Iraq or Libya, CR was really not that violent.
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: But not that violent ah.
: If ppl could peacefully elect the officials, same effects.
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 10 Yes, compared with the Liberation War, it was not that violent either ah.
If you just want to change officials, you can let ppl vote, the officials
can be peacefully removed out of the offices.
【在 I********l 的大作中提到】
: compared to Iraq or Libya, CR was really not that violent.
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s******8
发帖数: 7105 | 11
事实证明只要是独裁政权，不管如何搞，结果还是有人当奴才有人当老爷。
【在 I********l 的大作中提到】
: 目的是打倒党内的新资产阶级当权派。
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x****u
发帖数: 12955 | 12
Well, people voted by voicing their opposition to those officials. But they
wouldn't resign voluntarily. So they ended up been forcibly removed from
office.
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: Yes, compared with the Liberation War, it was not that violent either ah.
: If you just want to change officials, you can let ppl vote, the officials
: can be peacefully removed out of the offices.
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 13 If you could vote, they would leave the offices without using force ah.
they
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
:
: Well, people voted by voicing their opposition to those officials. But they
: wouldn't resign voluntarily. So they ended up been forcibly removed from
: office.
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x****u
发帖数: 12955 | 14
Vote is only meaningful if the officials are willing to give up power.
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: If you could vote, they would leave the offices without using force ah.
:
: they
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 15 American officials will leave the offices if they lost the election.
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
:
: Vote is only meaningful if the officials are willing to give up power.
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O****X
发帖数: 24292 | 16 离开与否不重要了，反正都是被关进牢笼的
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: American officials will leave the offices if they lost the election.
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w****2
发帖数: 12072 | 17 对，这是我一直持有的观点
【在 I********l 的大作中提到】
: 目的是打倒党内的新资产阶级当权派。
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c********x
发帖数: 2905 | 18 这句话比较靠谱了，文革实际上区别了老毛于其他只是满足于改朝换帝的皇帝。
【在 R*******N 的大作中提到】
: 没有文革，那建国也就没了意义。反正都是少爷小姐，又何必折腾进去几百万中国士兵
: 的性命。不少在抗战前线杀了多少敌寇，最后却死在了自己人手上。
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I********l
发帖数: 8702 | 19 the merits of voting system are just taken-for-granted. it is more like a
blissful myth than a truth validated by either theory or empirical evidence.
if you learn about Arrow's impossibility theorem, you would know that no
voting system is fair.
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: If you could vote, they would leave the offices without using force ah.
:
: they
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 20 What kind system is more fair ah?
evidence.
【在 I********l 的大作中提到】
: the merits of voting system are just taken-for-granted. it is more like a
: blissful myth than a truth validated by either theory or empirical evidence.
: if you learn about Arrow's impossibility theorem, you would know that no
: voting system is fair.
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I********l
发帖数: 8702 | 21 a system that allows those oppressed majority to rebel against a few
oppressor.
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: What kind system is more fair ah?
:
: evidence.
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 22 If you are majority, you should have more votes ah.
If majority do not like the officials, they will be voted out of the offices.
The same effect as the CR ah.
【在 I********l 的大作中提到】
: a system that allows those oppressed majority to rebel against a few
: oppressor.
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I********l
发帖数: 8702 | 23 and a system that guarantees the maximum degree of education, emancipation,
and participation of the majority, in contrast to the prevailing system of
repression, deception, and representation of the majority by the minority.
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: What kind system is more fair ah?
:
: evidence.
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 24 That seems to be a democracy system, not a dictorship system ah.
,
【在 I********l 的大作中提到】
: and a system that guarantees the maximum degree of education, emancipation,
: and participation of the majority, in contrast to the prevailing system of
: repression, deception, and representation of the majority by the minority.
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I********l
发帖数: 8702 | 25 you are either ignoring the fact that the majority has very limited access
to the economic, political, and media resources, or underestimating the
sophistication of the capitalism system, the Leviathan.
just ask you a simple question: if voting really works, how do we explain
the fact that voting turnout has been in a decline over the past five
decades in most so-called democratic countries?
offices.
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: If you are majority, you should have more votes ah.
: If majority do not like the officials, they will be voted out of the offices.
: The same effect as the CR ah.
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 26 You are believing in the communism la.
I know what you want, I love communism too, but I am also realistic.
In today's world, how can you pursue the communism?
If you stuck in the capitalism, better adopt a better capitalism system,
instead of the bad one.
【在 I********l 的大作中提到】
: you are either ignoring the fact that the majority has very limited access
: to the economic, political, and media resources, or underestimating the
: sophistication of the capitalism system, the Leviathan.
: just ask you a simple question: if voting really works, how do we explain
: the fact that voting turnout has been in a decline over the past five
: decades in most so-called democratic countries?
:
: offices.
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x****u
发帖数: 12955 | 27
Only because they knew what would happen to them if they don't give up the
power.
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: American officials will leave the offices if they lost the election.
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