s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 1 石油最大净出口国是沙特，伊朗，伊拉克，俄罗斯。
粮食最大净出口国是巴西，阿根廷，澳大利亚，泰国，加拿大
美国是石油最大净进口国，粮食世界第二大的净进口国
美国不拥有石油和粮食，而只是对这些产油国，产粮国进行政治或者军事控制。
美国只有一点，强大军力，有了强大军力再推行美钞，霸占和操纵石油和粮食分配方式，继而推行石油粮食战略。
美国靠的是强力，而非米国有这个物质基础。 | s********n
发帖数: 26222 | | l**m
发帖数: 241 | 3 原材料有了但是运不出去也没用。
比如说，你说我有石油，我不卖给你，这是我的权利。这么讲对。但是人家拥有水道的
也可以这么说，这个海峡是我的，不让你走，也是我的权利。
所以说除了对原材料控制以外，还有对贸易要冲的控制。这个不是一时半会儿积累下来
的。中国千万不能有一口吃成个胖子的想法，那样就成以前的德国了。和平崛起需要较
长时间的努力。
式，继而推行石油粮食战略。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 石油最大净出口国是沙特，伊朗，伊拉克，俄罗斯。
: 粮食最大净出口国是巴西，阿根廷，澳大利亚，泰国，加拿大
: 美国是石油最大净进口国，粮食世界第二大的净进口国
: 美国不拥有石油和粮食，而只是对这些产油国，产粮国进行政治或者军事控制。
: 美国只有一点，强大军力，有了强大军力再推行美钞，霸占和操纵石油和粮食分配方式，继而推行石油粮食战略。
: 美国靠的是强力，而非米国有这个物质基础。
| M*****8
发帖数: 17722 | 4
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还不如说：
“后清汉奴们被洋财阀插管吸血，任重道远。”
----- 后清买办。
【在 l**m 的大作中提到】
: 原材料有了但是运不出去也没用。
: 比如说，你说我有石油，我不卖给你，这是我的权利。这么讲对。但是人家拥有水道的
: 也可以这么说，这个海峡是我的，不让你走，也是我的权利。
: 所以说除了对原材料控制以外，还有对贸易要冲的控制。这个不是一时半会儿积累下来
: 的。中国千万不能有一口吃成个胖子的想法，那样就成以前的德国了。和平崛起需要较
: 长时间的努力。
:
: 式，继而推行石油粮食战略。
| b****l
发帖数: 23606 | 5 老将？
要是共党真是这样，老将应该高兴才对啊。中美一家亲都是财阀的菜了
【在 M*****8 的大作中提到】
:
: ............................
: 还不如说：
: “后清汉奴们被洋财阀插管吸血，任重道远。”
: ----- 后清买办。
| g*******d
发帖数: 5873 | 6 要想办法把从伊朗到巴基斯坦到中国的铁路和油路打通
虽然那边的地质条件比较恶劣
【在 l**m 的大作中提到】
: 原材料有了但是运不出去也没用。
: 比如说，你说我有石油，我不卖给你，这是我的权利。这么讲对。但是人家拥有水道的
: 也可以这么说，这个海峡是我的，不让你走，也是我的权利。
: 所以说除了对原材料控制以外，还有对贸易要冲的控制。这个不是一时半会儿积累下来
: 的。中国千万不能有一口吃成个胖子的想法，那样就成以前的德国了。和平崛起需要较
: 长时间的努力。
:
: 式，继而推行石油粮食战略。
| l**m
发帖数: 241 | 7 多管齐下吧。有些地方原材料开采，运输费用的确大大高于其他地方。不能总让中国老
百姓用贵的原材料，降自己工资来和米帝的产品PK是不。
最大的战略就是让中国老百姓过的好点，所以竞争+合作吧。很多时候需要跟美帝说清
楚，小奥筒子，时代不同了，有些东西要不分点给我，有些地方手需要伸回去一些，虽
然你需要勒紧点裤腰带，但是撕破脸你过得更不好。小奥这厮不服的话，也多培养亲中
的外国人嘛，把这些人打扮的漂亮一点。前任法国，德国领导人对中国还是比较好的，
不能完全说是为了德法的利益，个人倾向肯定有关系。
【在 g*******d 的大作中提到】
: 要想办法把从伊朗到巴基斯坦到中国的铁路和油路打通
: 虽然那边的地质条件比较恶劣
| M*****8
发帖数: 17722 | 8
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别做梦了。后清已放弃自己切身利益，倒向以国。
后清更感兴趣继续消气媚外，为坑过自己的以国建铁路。
踏入人家精心设计的陷阱，去得罪伊斯兰世界和其它中东国家。
看以下的连接：
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/NB02Ad01.html
A dragon dance in the Negev
By M K Bhadrakumar
There is no record of dragons in the nomadic life of the Negev desert, which
dates back at least 4, 000 years (some say 7,000). That may be about to
change in the Year of the Dragon.
The Bedouins of the Negev will soon witness the sight of a Chinese-built
railway line snaking its way through the melange of brown, rocky, dusty
mountains and the wadis and deep craters, leading north from the resort city
of Eilat in the Gulf of Aqaba toward the eastern Mediterranean.
Having developed strong interests on the two sides of the Persian Gulf
divide - Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) states and Iran - China is taking an
awesome leap as a big-time player in the geopolitics of the Middle East by
elevating its ties with Israel to a strategic partnership.
Paradoxically, just as the United States is hoping to nettle the
dragon in the South China Sea and "contain" it in the Asia Pacific, it makes
a dramatic, outflanking appearance in the citadel of American geo-
strategies in the Middle East. The geopolitical implications are profound.
Amid the cacophony of the war drums beating in the Persian Gulf and in the
Levant, it almost went unnoticed that the exchange of greetings between
Beijing and Tel Aviv last week marking the 20th anniversary of diplomatic
ties between the two countries acquired a sudden verve that went far beyond
the calls of mere protocol.
Diplomacy for all seasons
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said his country and China make a
"successful combination" and he could visualize a "dramatic expansion" of
the ties. "I think we've barely scratched the surface of Israeli-Chinese
relations", he said at a celebration in Tel Aviv last Tuesday.
In his message of greetings for the anniversary, President Hu Jintao said
China "attaches great importance to advancing Sino-Israeli ties and is ready
to make joint efforts with Israel". In turn, Premier Wen Jiabao noted that
China and Israel have "huge potential and broad prospects for cooperation"
and Beijing is "ready to continue to expand and deepen" the ties and raise
them to "a new high".
Speaking at the function in Tel Aviv, Netanyahu pointedly invited Beijing to
work with Israel to "address the challenges of securing Middle East peace".
And China's ambassador to Israel Gao Yanping, who was present, responded:
The further development of China-Israel relations is not only beneficial
to both countries and the two peoples, but are also very much conducive to
regional stability, world peace and global prosperity.
Facing the ongoing transformation and adjustment in the region [read
Arab Spring] and in the world, China-Israel relationship is now at a new
historical point. We should continue to work together, grow together and
succeed together in the years to come.
These are heady, brave thoughts for a region where angels fear to tread. But
the maturity of China-Israel ties today is such that even as Gao was
speaking at Tel Aviv, her counterpart in the United Nations in New York,
ambassador Li Baodong, was taking note of the "stalemate" in the Middle East
peace process and reiterating China's strong support for a Palestinian
state as part of a two-state solution, restoring the "lawful right" of
Palestinian people.
Li said, "China supports the establishment of an independent Palestinian
state that enjoys full sovereignty, with East Jerusalem as its capital and
based on the 1967 border. China supports Palestine's membership in the
United Nations." Li went on to roundly condemn the Israeli government's
recent decision giving approval for plans of expansion of new settlements.
He said:
China is always against Israel's establishment of Jewish settlements in
the occupied Palestinian territory including East Jerusalem. We urge Israel
to cease the settlement construction immediately, by prudent in action and
work actively in collaboration with the efforts of the international
community to promote peace, and create conditions for the resumption of
Palestinian-Israeli peace negotiation.
Li seemed unperturbed by the warm sentiments being mutually expressed
between the Chinese and the Israeli leaderships the very same day that he
spoke.
The parallel portfolio of China's stunning Middle East diplomacy that was
evident during Wen Jiabao's recent six-day tour of the GCC states is
repeating. (China weighs 'right side of history' in Gulf, Asia Times Online,
January 17, 2012).
China's Middle East diplomacy is adroitly advancing three parallel tracks
engaging Iran, GCC states and Israel. This may seem improbable against the
backdrop of the rise of Iran and the concomitant hostility it arouses in
Israel and the GCC states. But Beijing sees no contradiction here, and is
striving to make the three tracks even complement each other. Conceivably,
one day they well might.
The great beauty is that all three Middle Eastern camps - Iran, the GCC and
Israel - equally want the best of relationships with China and are
manifestly vying with each other for the dragon's prime time. This is going
to pose an unsolvable riddle for other outside powers aspiring for influence
in the region, be it the West or Turkey and Russia.
Netanyahu said, "I appreciate China's need to ensure a regular supply of
sources of energy in order to continue its impressive growth. I believe it
is possible to replace Iranian oil." He still hopes to wean China away from
Iranian oil, although Beijing has no intentions to erode its economic
relationship with Iran. China-Iran trade is booming at US$45 billion - as
compared to $8 billion China-Israel trade.
'Junction between continents'
Nonetheless, Israel is making an offer out of the massive oil and gas
reserves in the Levant Basin province in the eastern Mediterranean. The area
, encompassing approximately 32,000 square miles, covers onshore and
offshore territory including the Gaza Strip, Israel, Lebanon, Syria and
Cyprus. The US Geological Survey estimated in 2010 that the area holds a
mean of 1.7 billion barrels of recoverable oil and a mean of 122 trillion
cubic feet (tcf) of recoverable gas.
The earlier estimation was that these reserves would ensure Israel's energy
security, but more recent assessment in the light of new findings of
reserves is that they are far greater than required to meet Israel's needs.
Huge infrastructure development is on the cards including liquefaction
facilities to be set up on Israel's coast and transportation routes leading
to viable markets for Israel's energy export. These alluring vistas of
cooperation explain Netanyahu's confidence that Israel's bilateral trade
with China can be easily doubled in the very near future. (China already
figures as Israel's third important trading partner after the US and
European Union.)
Israeli Transport Minister Yisrael Katz visited Beijing in September and he
has been quoted recently as saying, "The professional capability of the
Chinese companies in the construction of railway systems and transportation
networks is among the best in the world."
The Israeli Transport Ministry has underscored that Israel would prefer
Chinese state-owned companies to undertake the construction of a so-called "
Med-Red" railway through the Negev Desert's Zin Valley connecting Israel's
Mediterranean and Red Sea coast cities of Haifa and Eilat.
Swiftly following up on Katz's discussions in Beijing, China began working
on a joint proposal with Israel for the Eilat link. Chinese and Israeli
companies may jointly execute the project and, conceivably, China may invest
in the project.
Now, the two biggest Israeli gas finds - Leviathan and Tamar - lie off 130
and 80 kilometers from the port city of Haifa. While Leviathan is estimated
to hold reserves of 16 tcf of gas, Tamar's reserves amount to at least 8.4
tcf. (Recently, two more gas fields - Sarah and Mira - were discovered off
the port city of Hadera further south of Haifa.)
The proposed rail-cum-road links would facilitate transfer of liquefied
natural gas from Israel's Mediterranean coast to the Red Sea coast from
where they can be shipped across the Indian Ocean to China. Again, the
communication link would enhance the scope for China's exports to central
and southern Europe and the Balkans.
The relationship between China and Israel has been complex. It has had its
ups and downs. But the Israeli Foreign Ministry is justified in claiming in
a statement last week that the two countries are presently "enjoying a
flowering of relations in recent years".
Indeed, 2011 has been a good year. In May the commander of the Chinese navy
Admiral Wu Shengli visited Israel, which was followed in August by the visit
by the chief of the People's Liberation Army general staff department
General Chen Bingde. This was the first visit by a Chinese military chief to
Israel.
In between, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak visited China in June, which
was also the first of its kind. In July, the two countries concluded an
economic cooperation agreement. To quote Netanyahu, "The bilateral ties are
important to us; therefore, we are committed to expanding them quickly in a
variety of fields. To this end, I have issued a sweeping directive to
approve any invitation to visit China."
Clearly, Israel and China are poised to enter a profound and highly
strategic engagement. Netanyahu told a cabinet meeting in Tel Aviv on Sunday
that he intended to develop the proposed rail and road networks joining
Eilat to northern Israel as a "junction between continents". He went on to
flag China's interest in the project.
Beijing would have already sized up the immense strategic potential of an
audacious transportation route across the Negev bypassing Egypt's congested
Suez Canal, which would connect Asia with Europe. It almost seems Washington
has lost the plot.
Ambassador M K Bhadrakumar was a career diplomat in the Indian Foreign
Service. His assignments included the Soviet Union, South Korea, Sri Lanka,
Germany, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Kuwait and Turkey.
【在 g*******d 的大作中提到】
: 要想办法把从伊朗到巴基斯坦到中国的铁路和油路打通
: 虽然那边的地质条件比较恶劣
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