g*q
发帖数: 26623 | 1 The University of San Francisco's aggressive recruitment of students from
China - many of whom have trouble speaking English - has led to the
resignation of one of the campus' top business-school officials.
Dayle Smith, associate dean of undergraduate studies at the School of
Management, quit amid what some see as a tug-of-war between academic
integrity and the desire to diversify the prestigious private school through
aggressive recruitment.
This year, 781 of the 10,017 students enrolled at USF are Chinese nationals,
the vast majority of them in the business school. They're paying full
freight - $36,000 a year in tuition.
Some of the new students' language skills, however, were so poor that they
were given headsets for English-to-Mandarin translation during orientation.
Business school Dean Mike Webber said in his Sept. 8 letter to staffers
announcing Smith's exit that the "considerable increase" in foreign students
this year is not in and of itself a cause for concern.
"But given that so many of these students have weak English skills and are
disproportionately from one country, we are going to be faced with some
unique pedagogical and cultural challenges," he wrote.
Webber - who did not return calls for comment - added that Smith feared that
USF's way of handling the gap might "dilute the educational experience for
all" the school's business students. Smith did not return calls seeking
comment.
USF Provost Jennifer Turpin said the flap was the result of a difference of
opinion over how far the campus should go to accommodate Chinese students.
She acknowledged that many of the new students have poor English skills -
which is why they are being brought in on a "conditional" basis and are
being given extra help.
Turpin said the debate came down to how the extra help should be
administered - through the university's individual schools or through a
central study center.
However, according to Webber, Smith "felt there was a real failure on the
part of the university to understand these unique challenges and how they
will impact" the business school.
"We have all kinds of different views on campus," Turpin said. "That's why
we love universities." |
D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 2 More are on the same path. |
x****o
发帖数: 29677 | 3 it is what it is
money talks |
g*q
发帖数: 26623 | |
y*h
发帖数: 25423 | 5 UCSF是牛校，USF是野鸡学校，野鸡学校还在乎这个？
through
nationals,
【在 g*q 的大作中提到】
: The University of San Francisco's aggressive recruitment of students from
: China - many of whom have trouble speaking English - has led to the
: resignation of one of the campus' top business-school officials.
: Dayle Smith, associate dean of undergraduate studies at the School of
: Management, quit amid what some see as a tug-of-war between academic
: integrity and the desire to diversify the prestigious private school through
: aggressive recruitment.
: This year, 781 of the 10,017 students enrolled at USF are Chinese nationals,
: the vast majority of them in the business school. They're paying full
: freight - $36,000 a year in tuition.
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p******u
发帖数: 14642 | 6 不招土鳖小留哪来钱呢？
through
nationals,
【在 g*q 的大作中提到】
: The University of San Francisco's aggressive recruitment of students from
: China - many of whom have trouble speaking English - has led to the
: resignation of one of the campus' top business-school officials.
: Dayle Smith, associate dean of undergraduate studies at the School of
: Management, quit amid what some see as a tug-of-war between academic
: integrity and the desire to diversify the prestigious private school through
: aggressive recruitment.
: This year, 781 of the 10,017 students enrolled at USF are Chinese nationals,
: the vast majority of them in the business school. They're paying full
: freight - $36,000 a year in tuition.
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s******s
发帖数: 505 | 7 管理学院的本科教学副院长，离校长还很远呢。
另外这个人是因为抗议中国人太多而辞职？
through
nationals,
【在 g*q 的大作中提到】
: The University of San Francisco's aggressive recruitment of students from
: China - many of whom have trouble speaking English - has led to the
: resignation of one of the campus' top business-school officials.
: Dayle Smith, associate dean of undergraduate studies at the School of
: Management, quit amid what some see as a tug-of-war between academic
: integrity and the desire to diversify the prestigious private school through
: aggressive recruitment.
: This year, 781 of the 10,017 students enrolled at USF are Chinese nationals,
: the vast majority of them in the business school. They're paying full
: freight - $36,000 a year in tuition.
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s***q
发帖数: 10585 | 8 尼玛，打倒标题党
分明是因为招了过多英语不合格的学生，属于善自修改招生标准，并以损害教学质量而
辞职
和招中国人多一点关系也没有。
through
nationals,
【在 g*q 的大作中提到】
: The University of San Francisco's aggressive recruitment of students from
: China - many of whom have trouble speaking English - has led to the
: resignation of one of the campus' top business-school officials.
: Dayle Smith, associate dean of undergraduate studies at the School of
: Management, quit amid what some see as a tug-of-war between academic
: integrity and the desire to diversify the prestigious private school through
: aggressive recruitment.
: This year, 781 of the 10,017 students enrolled at USF are Chinese nationals,
: the vast majority of them in the business school. They're paying full
: freight - $36,000 a year in tuition.
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g*q
发帖数: 26623 | 9 为了多赚钱,宁可降低教学标准也要多招中国小留,怎么就跟中国人没关系了?
【在 s***q 的大作中提到】
: 尼玛，打倒标题党
: 分明是因为招了过多英语不合格的学生，属于善自修改招生标准，并以损害教学质量而
: 辞职
: 和招中国人多一点关系也没有。
:
: through
: nationals,
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h******k
发帖数: 13418 | |
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y*h
发帖数: 25423 | 11
英文不好的加修一年英文预科，又可以多赚一年的钱。
【在 h******k 的大作中提到】
: 这个简单，再弄些中文教师就行了
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w***u
发帖数: 17713 | 12 不招小留招谁？现在全世界肯拼命花钱也有能力花钱上学的，大概就剩下中国家长了。
功课考虑开些毛泽东思想和三个代表，中国社会主义市场经济，中文授课，你美国人都
考不及格，能说课程简单吗？ |
s***q
发帖数: 10585 | 13 从国内来美国，英语好的小留比英语差的小留多多了，怎么不招那些英语好的中国人？
【在 g*q 的大作中提到】
: 为了多赚钱,宁可降低教学标准也要多招中国小留,怎么就跟中国人没关系了?
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g*q
发帖数: 26623 | 14 英语好的小留比英语差的小留少太多了,能付得起学费的就更少了
【在 s***q 的大作中提到】
: 从国内来美国，英语好的小留比英语差的小留多多了，怎么不招那些英语好的中国人？
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s***q
发帖数: 10585 | 15 既然N次强调学费，不如把标题改成
“美国已经有大学院长因为招过多付得起学费的学生引咎辞职了”
【在 g*q 的大作中提到】
: 英语好的小留比英语差的小留少太多了,能付得起学费的就更少了
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y*h
发帖数: 25423 | 16
这年头多付得起学费的学生就是中国小刘，读者可以自由替换。
【在 s***q 的大作中提到】
: 既然N次强调学费，不如把标题改成
: “美国已经有大学院长因为招过多付得起学费的学生引咎辞职了”
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g*q
发帖数: 26623 | 17 对于美国高校,中国小留==付得起学费的学生
【在 s***q 的大作中提到】
: 既然N次强调学费，不如把标题改成
: “美国已经有大学院长因为招过多付得起学费的学生引咎辞职了”
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y*h
发帖数: 25423 | 18
peng！
【在 g*q 的大作中提到】
: 对于美国高校,中国小留==付得起学费的学生
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u*********r
发帖数: 7835 | 19 学费这些年稳步跨越式增长，看哪年到10万以上
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5
【在 g*q 的大作中提到】
: The University of San Francisco's aggressive recruitment of students from
: China - many of whom have trouble speaking English - has led to the
: resignation of one of the campus' top business-school officials.
: Dayle Smith, associate dean of undergraduate studies at the School of
: Management, quit amid what some see as a tug-of-war between academic
: integrity and the desire to diversify the prestigious private school through
: aggressive recruitment.
: This year, 781 of the 10,017 students enrolled at USF are Chinese nationals,
: the vast majority of them in the business school. They're paying full
: freight - $36,000 a year in tuition.
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P******0
发帖数: 9787 | 20 UCSF除了医学院也就是个破学校吧。
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
: UCSF是牛校，USF是野鸡学校，野鸡学校还在乎这个？
:
: through
: nationals,
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a***s
发帖数: 5417 | 21 公立周内学费涨得最快。 out of state学费其实涨得很慢。
美国学校都严重低估中国人的支付能力。
英国人早就认识到用外国学生来养本国学生了，外国学生的学费是欧盟
学生的8-10倍。有的甚至达到15倍。就算这么贵，中国小留还是趋之若鹜。
【在 u*********r 的大作中提到】
: 学费这些年稳步跨越式增长，看哪年到10万以上
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5
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a***s
发帖数: 5417 | 22 加州的公立大学的business school都一般，尤其是state of california的分校。
倒是那些野鸡私立，比如u of san francisco之类的， 可能business school
还比较好。这些学校的工程什么就一般或者没有。
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
: UCSF是牛校，USF是野鸡学校，野鸡学校还在乎这个？
:
: through
: nationals,
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d*********2
发帖数: 48111 | 23 having trouble speaking english.
很多wsn也是如此啊
through
nationals,
【在 g*q 的大作中提到】
: The University of San Francisco's aggressive recruitment of students from
: China - many of whom have trouble speaking English - has led to the
: resignation of one of the campus' top business-school officials.
: Dayle Smith, associate dean of undergraduate studies at the School of
: Management, quit amid what some see as a tug-of-war between academic
: integrity and the desire to diversify the prestigious private school through
: aggressive recruitment.
: This year, 781 of the 10,017 students enrolled at USF are Chinese nationals,
: the vast majority of them in the business school. They're paying full
: freight - $36,000 a year in tuition.
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d*********2
发帖数: 48111 | 24 越是小学校越在乎. local的community college做法考题的老中据说压力很大, 经常有
人举报it英文不照.
top U, ivy啥的, 上课的, 但凡沾点物理或者数学边的, 就没指望能听得懂台上的英文
. 唯一一个native还是澳大利亚的. 记得上partial differential euqation还是啥课,
老头上去干脆一句话不说, 直接就干写板书.
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
: UCSF是牛校，USF是野鸡学校，野鸡学校还在乎这个？
:
: through
: nationals,
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d*********2
发帖数: 48111 | 25 说实在话, 除了英文以外, 其他方面这帮小留只能提高美国的本科教育标准.
就美国这教育出来的本科生硕士生, 连乘法口诀都不会背的, 2位数乘法就抓瞎.
你给他口算一个, 他能推导出邪恶共产教育摧残人性来.
【在 g*q 的大作中提到】
: 为了多赚钱,宁可降低教学标准也要多招中国小留,怎么就跟中国人没关系了?
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a***s
发帖数: 5417 | 26 把非法劳模转正合法的时候就没人抱怨劳模连英语都不会说。
抱怨international students英语不好，那是种族歧视。
学生是来学习的。英语不好就该给他们开英语补习班。
课,
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】
: 越是小学校越在乎. local的community college做法考题的老中据说压力很大, 经常有
: 人举报it英文不照.
: top U, ivy啥的, 上课的, 但凡沾点物理或者数学边的, 就没指望能听得懂台上的英文
: . 唯一一个native还是澳大利亚的. 记得上partial differential euqation还是啥课,
: 老头上去干脆一句话不说, 直接就干写板书.
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d*********2
发帖数: 48111 | 27 我一个高很多年的师兄,在国内读的phd. 来美国做postdoc, 3年下来跟埃及裔老板总共
没说20局话. 结果临了了才发现特受老板赏识, 推荐信都是excellent.
海龟以后推荐学生过来, 就俩词, xxx, good.
这边就要了.
能干活的, 讲不讲英文都不计较了,别说这些来送钱的了.
liberal多的州, 就是比较NC.
【在 a***s 的大作中提到】
: 把非法劳模转正合法的时候就没人抱怨劳模连英语都不会说。
: 抱怨international students英语不好，那是种族歧视。
: 学生是来学习的。英语不好就该给他们开英语补习班。
:
: 课,
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L*******9
发帖数: 936 | |
p********f
发帖数: 787 | 29 USF也就是不算好学校，还谈不上野鸡学校。
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
: UCSF是牛校，USF是野鸡学校，野鸡学校还在乎这个？
:
: through
: nationals,
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p********f
发帖数: 787 | 30 我刚给USF说了句好话，但你要这么说就没谱了，UCLA的商学院十几年没有出过top 15
，UC Berkeley的商学院大部分时间都是top 10，你要是拿USF的business school来比
就太荒唐了。
【在 a***s 的大作中提到】
: 加州的公立大学的business school都一般，尤其是state of california的分校。
: 倒是那些野鸡私立，比如u of san francisco之类的， 可能business school
: 还比较好。这些学校的工程什么就一般或者没有。
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z******o
发帖数: 3073 | 31 不招这么多小留，学校的财务部门的头儿就要营救辞职了。 |
