T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 1 和老留80年代初到美国被超大汉堡油炸鸡块所震撼一样吧, 那时国内每月才30斤粮票肉
一斤半啊.
The Health Toll of Immigration
Esther Angeles, 41, with her daughter, Johanna Marisol Gomez, 7. Ms. Angeles
has developed diabetes since coming to the United States and struggles to
see that her daughter eats healthfully
By SABRINA TAVERNISE
BROWNSVILLE, Tex. — Becoming an American can be bad for your health.
A growing body of mortality research on immigrants has shown that the longer
they live in this country, the worse their rates of heart disease, high
blood pressure and diabetes. And while their American-born children may have
more money, they tend to live shorter lives than the parents.
The pattern goes against any notion that moving to America improves every
aspect of life. It also demonstrates that at least in terms of health,
worries about assimilation for the country’s 11 million illegal immigrants
are mistaken. In fact, it is happening all too quickly.
“There’s something about life in the United States that is not conducive
to good health across generations,” said Robert A. Hummer, a social
demographer at the University of Texas at Austin.
For Hispanics, now the nation’s largest immigrant group, the foreign-born
live about three years longer than their American-born counterparts, several
studies have found.
Why does life in the United States — despite its sophisticated health care
system and high per capita wages — lead to worse health? New research is
showing that the immigrant advantage wears off with the adoption of American
behaviors — smoking, drinking, high-calorie diets and sedentary lifestyles.
Here in Brownsville, a worn border city studded with fast-food restaurants,
immigrants say that happens slowly, almost imperceptibly. In America, foods
like ham and bread that are not supposed to be sweet are. And children lose
their taste for traditional Mexican foods like cactus and beans.
For the recently arrived, the quantity and accessibility of food speaks to
the boundless promise of the United States. Esther Angeles remembers being
amazed at the size of hamburgers — as big as dinner plates — when she
first came to the United States from Mexico 15 years ago.
“I thought, this is really a country of opportunity,” she said. “Look at
the size of the food!”
Fast-food fare not only tasted good, but was also a sign of success, a
family treat that new earnings put in reach.
“The crispiness was delicious,” said Juan Muniz, 62, recalling his first
visit to Church’s Chicken with his family in the late 1970s. “I was proud
and excited to eat out. I’d tell them: ‘Let’s go eat. We can afford it
now.’ ”
For others, supersize deals appealed.
“You work so hard, you want to use your money in a smart way,” said Aris
Ramirez, a community health worker in Brownsville, explaining the thinking.
“So when they hear ‘twice the fries for an extra 49 cents,’ people think,
‘That’s economical.’ ”
For Ms. Angeles, the excitement of big food eventually wore off, and the
frantic pace of the modern American workplace took over. She found herself
eating hamburgers more because they were convenient and she was busy in her
78-hour-a-week job as a housekeeper. What is more, she lost control over her
daughter’s diet because, as a single mother, she was rarely with her at
mealtimes.
Robert O. Valdez, a professor of family and community medicine and economics
at the University of New Mexico, said, “All the things we tell people to
do from a clinical perspective today — a lot of fiber and less meat — were
exactly the lifestyle habits that immigrants were normally keeping.”
As early as the 1970s, researchers found that immigrants lived several years
longer than American-born whites even though they tended to have less
education and lower income, factors usually associated with worse health.
That gap has grown since 1980. Less clear, however, was what happened to
immigrants and their American-born offspring after a lifetime in the United
States.
Evidence is mounting that the second generation does worse. Elizabeth Arias,
a demographer at the National Center for Health Statistics, has made
exploratory estimates based on data from 2007 to 2009, which show that
Hispanic immigrants live 2.9 years longer than American-born Hispanics. The
finding, which has not yet been published, is similar to those in earlier
studies.
Still, the data does not break down by generation. Ms. Arias cautioned that
subsequent generations — for example, grandchildren and great-grandchildren
— may indeed improve as they rise in socioeconomic status, which in the
United States is strongly correlated with better health.
Other research suggests that some of the difference has to do with variation
among American-born Hispanics, most of whom still do better than the rest
of the American population. Puerto Ricans born in the continental United
States, for example, have some of the shortest life spans and even do worse
than whites born in the United States, according to research by Professor
Hummer, dragging down the numbers for American-born Hispanics. But Mexican
immigrant men live about two years longer than Mexican-American men,
according to the estimates by Ms. Arias.
Why is a harder question to answer, researchers say. Some point to smoking.
Andrew Fenelon, a researcher at Brown University, found in 2011 that half of
the three-year life expectancy advantage that Hispanic immigrants had over
American-born Hispanics was because they smoked less. The children of
immigrants adopt health behaviors typical of Americans in their
socioeconomic group. For second-generation Hispanics, the group tends to be
lower income, with higher rates of smoking and drinking.
Other researchers say culture contributes. Foreign-born Hispanics are less
likely than American-born Hispanics to be raising children alone, and more
likely to be part of large kinship networks that insulate them from harsh
American economic realities that can lead to poor health.
“I’d love to have my wife at home taking care of the kids and making sure
they eat right, but I can’t afford to,” said Camilo Garza, a 34-year-old
plumber and maintenance worker whose grandfather immigrated from Mexico. “
It costs money to live in the land of the free. It means both parents have
to work.”
As a result, his family eats out almost every night, leaving his dining
table abandoned.
“It’s a decoration,” said Mr. Garza, who is overweight and a smoker. “It
’s a place where we set groceries before sticking them in the refrigerator.”
The lifestyle takes its toll. The county in which Brownsville is situated,
Cameron, has some of the highest rates of obesity and diabetes in the
country. The numbers are made worse by a lack of physical activity,
including walking. Immigrants said they felt so conspicuous during early
attempts to walk along the shoulder of the roads that they feared people
would suspect they were here illegally. Ms. Angeles recalled that strolling
to a dollar store provoked so many stares that she felt like “a bean in
rice.”
“In Mexico, we ate healthily and didn’t even know it,” said Ms. Angeles,
who has since developed diabetes. “Here, we know the food we eat is bad for
us. We feel guilty. But we eat it anyway.”
Still, immigrants have better health outcomes than the American-born. A 2006
analysis by Gopal K. Singh, a researcher at the Department of Health and
Human Services, and Robert A. Hiatt, a professor of epidemiology and
biostatistics at the University of California, San Francisco, found that
immigrants had at least a 20 percent lower overall cancer mortality rate
than their American-born counterparts.
Mortality rates from heart disease were about 16 percent lower, for kidney
disease 18 percent lower, and for liver cirrhosis 24 percent lower.
“When my daughter was born, my doctor told me that if I wanted to see her
15th birthday I needed to lose the weight,” said Gerry Ortiz, 37, a first-
generation Mexican-American in Brownsville. He managed to lose 75 pounds,
motivated in part by his grandfather, a farmer in rural Mexico who at 93
still rides his bicycle every day. He stares down at the family from a black
-and-white photograph hanging in Mr. Ortiz’s living room. Four of the
family’s six siblings are obese and have diabetes.
And health habits in Mexico are starting to look a lot like those in the
United States. Researchers are beginning to wonder how long better numbers
for the foreign-born will last. Up to 40 percent of the diet of rural
Mexicans now comes from packaged foods, according to Professor Valdez.
“We are seeing a huge shift away from traditional diets,” he said. “
People are no longer growing what they are eating. They are increasingly
going to the market, and that market is changing.”
Joseph B. McCormick, the regional dean of the University of Texas School of
Public Health in Brownsville, said, “The U.S. culture has crept across the
border.”
Perhaps more immediate is the declining state of Hispanic health in the
United States. Nearly twice as many Hispanic adults as non-Hispanic white
adults have diabetes that has been diagnosed, a rate that researchers now
say may have a genetic component, particularly in those whose ancestry is
Amerindian from Central and South America, Dr. McCormick said.
Hispanic adults are also 14 percent more likely to be obese, according to
2010 data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The rate is
even higher for Hispanic children, who are 51 percent more likely to be
obese than non-Hispanic white children.
“We have a time bomb that’s going to go off,” said Dr. Amelie G. Ramirez,
a professor of epidemiology and biostatistics at the University of Texas
Health Science Center in San Antonio. “Obesity rates are increasing.
Diabetes is exploding. The cultural protection Hispanics had is being eroded
.”
But at least for now, the older generation is still enjoying its advantage.
In the De Angeles snack bar, a favorite meeting place for elderly
Brownsvillians, one regular who is 101 still walks across the bridge to
Mexico. Maria De La Cruz, a 73-year-old who immigrated to the United States
in her 40s, says her secret is raw garlic, cooked cactus and exercise, all
habits she acquired from her father, a tailor who died at 98.
“He had very pretty legs, like mine,” she said, laughing. “You want to
see them?”
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s*******e
发帖数: 1544 | |
T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 3
那是MacRib 只在欧洲个别国家卖, 美国人无福享受.
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: 觉醒了，好像前一阵子你还赞麦当劳的大汉堡来着
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g***j
发帖数: 40861 | |
G*****n
发帖数: 3863 | 5 饮食文化不同，吃的东西不一样。
同理也导致日裔美国人的寿命最长。
【在 g***j 的大作中提到】
: 印度大妈肥胖率比中国大妈高，为啥
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 6
老印体格基本是高加索人种, 还特别不爱运动, 在美国光吃素都肥. GYM很少见烙印,比
老中还不爱动.
【在 g***j 的大作中提到】
: 印度大妈肥胖率比中国大妈高，为啥
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m**d
发帖数: 21441 | 7 人种问题
中国胖子再胖也胖不到那去
【在 g***j 的大作中提到】
: 印度大妈肥胖率比中国大妈高，为啥
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l**p
发帖数: 6080 | 8 这种烙印不到烙印人口40%吧
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 老印体格基本是高加索人种, 还特别不爱运动, 在美国光吃素都肥. GYM很少见烙印,比
: 老中还不爱动.
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y*h
发帖数: 25423 | 9 美国要是农产品产量降低一半，全国平均寿命能提高几岁。 |
xt
发帖数: 17532 | 10 实际上问题不光是吃的东西太油腻，还有个大问题
就是吃大量生冷食品，特别是冷饮。从中医角度讲
这些东西伤脾，导致脾虚水困。由此大象腿啤酒肚
就产生了。 |
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 11
把糖价钱提高10倍也成, 这里的东西太TM甜.
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
: 美国要是农产品产量降低一半，全国平均寿命能提高几岁。
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g***j
发帖数: 40861 | 12 虽然不吃肉，但是喝奶多？
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】
: 饮食文化不同，吃的东西不一样。
: 同理也导致日裔美国人的寿命最长。
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d**********i
发帖数: 4877 | 13 土鳖如你。我老无言以对啊
macrib美国当然有。但不是什么好东西。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 把糖价钱提高10倍也成, 这里的东西太TM甜.
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y*h
发帖数: 25423 | 14 没道理。日本人吃冷的东西也很多，不影响寿命。
【在 xt 的大作中提到】
: 实际上问题不光是吃的东西太油腻，还有个大问题
: 就是吃大量生冷食品，特别是冷饮。从中医角度讲
: 这些东西伤脾，导致脾虚水困。由此大象腿啤酒肚
: 就产生了。
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G*****n
发帖数: 3863 | 15 很多人有误解。
首先，印度人不是完全的高加索人种，而是高加索父系血统和南亚次大陆土著母系血统
的混合。而且其中土著血统占绝大多数。
其次，吃素的人如果完全蛋白质摄入不够，反而更容易肥胖。因为身体偏缺某些必须的
营养时，就会不停的释放饥饿信号，导致人总觉得吃不饱，食量大增。印度人的饮食里
大米土豆小麦是主要淀粉来源，剩下的都是些蔬菜，基本不吃肉，所以很容易饿，饭量
也很大，就容易胖了。
东亚人饮食比较均衡，蛋白质、蔬菜、淀粉都有，所以比较健康。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 把糖价钱提高10倍也成, 这里的东西太TM甜.
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xt
发帖数: 17532 | 16 吃糖多了伤肾。从西医角度说糖消耗体内钙质，
从中医角度讲肾主骨，伤肾骨就会出问题，比如
骨质疏松。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 把糖价钱提高10倍也成, 这里的东西太TM甜.
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G*****n
发帖数: 3863 | 17 没有那么多，比起白人还是少很多的。他们一般是做有些菜加奶，而且也把奶做成酸奶
、奶油之类的奶制品。但是不像白人把奶拿来当水喝。
【在 g***j 的大作中提到】
: 虽然不吃肉，但是喝奶多？
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xt
发帖数: 17532 | 18 日本鬼子吃冷的多，所以他们吃辣根喝清酒驱寒。
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
: 没道理。日本人吃冷的东西也很多，不影响寿命。
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a******l
发帖数: 1135 | 19 看着这个小孩子的照片，就知道她长大后的样子了。悲剧。
Angeles
longer
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 和老留80年代初到美国被超大汉堡油炸鸡块所震撼一样吧, 那时国内每月才30斤粮票肉
: 一斤半啊.
: The Health Toll of Immigration
: Esther Angeles, 41, with her daughter, Johanna Marisol Gomez, 7. Ms. Angeles
: has developed diabetes since coming to the United States and struggles to
: see that her daughter eats healthfully
: By SABRINA TAVERNISE
: BROWNSVILLE, Tex. — Becoming an American can be bad for your health.
: A growing body of mortality research on immigrants has shown that the longer
: they live in this country, the worse their rates of heart disease, high
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g***j
发帖数: 40861 | 20 还有美国这边很少说摄入过多蛋白质的坏处，这个有问题没 |
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 21
After poor sales, McRib was removed from the menu in 1985. It was
reintroduced in 1989, staying on the menu until 2005. From 2006 onward, it
was made available for a short time each year.
Aside from weak sales, other theories for the limited availability of the
McRib include the higher prices and unreliable supply of pork, the limited-
time allure making it a better loss leader for McDonald's, and the scarcity
adding to the hype of the sandwich.
【在 d**********i 的大作中提到】
: 土鳖如你。我老无言以对啊
: macrib美国当然有。但不是什么好东西。
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xt
发帖数: 17532 | 22 这边美国人崇尚low carb，听说过Atkin's Diet没有？蛋白质多了
他们巴不得
【在 g***j 的大作中提到】
: 还有美国这边很少说摄入过多蛋白质的坏处，这个有问题没
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d******0
发帖数: 3640 | 23 美国农产品产量降低一半，世界上估计不少国家得饿死人。
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
: 美国要是农产品产量降低一半，全国平均寿命能提高几岁。
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 24
那是知识份子小资, 到美国农村和郊区看看, 全是热狗鸡腿皮撒, 女的不到30都横着.
【在 xt 的大作中提到】
: 这边美国人崇尚low carb，听说过Atkin's Diet没有？蛋白质多了
: 他们巴不得
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y*h
发帖数: 25423 | |
xt
发帖数: 17532 | 26 那些人一个是吃太多大热量的东西，另一个就是吃太多的
冷食。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 那是知识份子小资, 到美国农村和郊区看看, 全是热狗鸡腿皮撒, 女的不到30都横着.
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g***j
发帖数: 40861 | 27 的确，曾经途经格鲁吉亚一农村，唯一餐馆的唯一食物就是热狗，看到几个劳动人民每
个人盘子里都是10个以上热狗
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 那是知识份子小资, 到美国农村和郊区看看, 全是热狗鸡腿皮撒, 女的不到30都横着.
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y*h
发帖数: 25423 | 28 嗯，主要是冰激淋吃的太多，又热又冷。
【在 xt 的大作中提到】
: 那些人一个是吃太多大热量的东西，另一个就是吃太多的
: 冷食。
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B*G
发帖数: 13438 | 29 NJ的Gym里面全是烙印，不过女印确实少，她们估计文化上也觉得肥点穿莎莉好看吧
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 那是知识份子小资, 到美国农村和郊区看看, 全是热狗鸡腿皮撒, 女的不到30都横着.
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xt
发帖数: 17532 | 30 这个东西是培养大象腿必备！
其实那些大象腿的人还特别怕冷，因为阳虚。
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，主要是冰激淋吃的太多，又热又冷。
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g***j
发帖数: 40861 | 31 这儿份儿冰激凌比国内两份儿都大
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，主要是冰激淋吃的太多，又热又冷。
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 32
烙印女性各方面都很落后, 他们根本不解放妇女啊, 民主制度一人一票有球用.
【在 B*G 的大作中提到】
: NJ的Gym里面全是烙印，不过女印确实少，她们估计文化上也觉得肥点穿莎莉好看吧
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y*h
发帖数: 25423 | 33
这儿的饮料还免费refill呢，本来杯子就够大了
【在 g***j 的大作中提到】
: 这儿份儿冰激凌比国内两份儿都大
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g***j
发帖数: 40861 | 34 我一杯小的都喝不完
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
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: 这儿的饮料还免费refill呢，本来杯子就够大了
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 35
这个我还是要赞扬美国, 国内麦当劳要一个小杯根本是一口喝光.
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
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: 这儿的饮料还免费refill呢，本来杯子就够大了
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y*h
发帖数: 25423 | 36
等你喝出肥胖症就不感谢了
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
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: 这个我还是要赞扬美国, 国内麦当劳要一个小杯根本是一口喝光.
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l*********1
发帖数: 772 | 37 美国主要还是崇尚low fat，成天宣传脂肪的坏处，但是意识不到高糖的坏处，实际上
糖比脂肪更令人发胖。
【在 xt 的大作中提到】
: 这边美国人崇尚low carb，听说过Atkin's Diet没有？蛋白质多了
: 他们巴不得
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w***u
发帖数: 17713 | 38 乱说。到底是咱科罗拉多郊区的胖，还是纽约市区的肥？
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
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: 这个我还是要赞扬美国, 国内麦当劳要一个小杯根本是一口喝光.
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B*G
发帖数: 13438 | 39 所以有个统计说美国的烙印家庭收入比老中高了两万，实在是让人很惊讶，烙印的双职
工少很多啊
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
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: 这个我还是要赞扬美国, 国内麦当劳要一个小杯根本是一口喝光.
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 40
老中很多是前猪崽铁路工老移民, 还有中国城混一辈子的, 烙印职业移民多一些收入高
点吧.
【在 B*G 的大作中提到】
: 所以有个统计说美国的烙印家庭收入比老中高了两万，实在是让人很惊讶，烙印的双职
: 工少很多啊
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 41
这个主要和文化层次有关, 学历高的和在层次高的单位工作的美国人更注意饮食和体形
, 大农村和城里的垃圾人口狂吃狂喝横着长.
【在 w***u 的大作中提到】
: 乱说。到底是咱科罗拉多郊区的胖，还是纽约市区的肥？
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G*****n
发帖数: 3863 | 42 老印女优秀的比例和老印男一样。你去看Fortune 500的公司，好多三女在里面做高管
。百事的CEO就是印度女，把摩托和思科搞残的那个女CTO也是印度的。两边都优秀，怎
么可能收入不高。
而华人大多都是靠华男自己撑着。华男在公司爬梯子可能比不过印男，但是华人的优点
是创业，所以什么Nvidia的创始人，Zappo的创始人，雅虎的创始人，都是华男。而华
女无论什么方面就都完全拿不出手。
所以平均收入水平华裔家庭就比不过印裔家庭了。
偏偏是这样，有些国女还非常厚脸皮的把华男和印男拿来比，看不见自己和印女的差距
完全不是一个数量级的。
【在 B*G 的大作中提到】
: 所以有个统计说美国的烙印家庭收入比老中高了两万，实在是让人很惊讶，烙印的双职
: 工少很多啊
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l*********1
发帖数: 772 | 43 至少在加州，印度人是亚裔里平均寿命最长的，比华人和日本人都长。有些东西不能仅
凭印象。印度人可能不去gym，但是去gym并不能使人长寿，白人去gym也根本不是为了
长寿，而是为了增加自己的吸引力。
【在 B*G 的大作中提到】
: 所以有个统计说美国的烙印家庭收入比老中高了两万，实在是让人很惊讶，烙印的双职
: 工少很多啊
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x*****u
发帖数: 6559 | 44 我觉的美国食物不建康是和饮食业的商业化有关。 简单，快捷，大量的半成品，造成
不建康。 其实你好好做你的土豆泥，沙拉，汉堡，也不见得会不特别的不健康。 但是
你要在短时间内用廉价，根本不懂烹饪劳工造出大量的食品，肯定不建康。 就像熊猫
快餐也不建康。 |
G*****n
发帖数: 3863 | 45 任何国家发展到美国这个生活水平和工业水平的时候，都只能如此，要不然不可能以那
么少的农业人口养活那么多的人，并且提供如此多样化的食物。
不然的话就会像日本，东西健康是健康，但是死贵而且分量极少。韩国的发展趋势就是
一个例子，随着经济增长，食品价格在向日本模式发展。
以中国目前的食品行业状况，将来只有会比美国更工业化更不健康。
【在 x*****u 的大作中提到】
: 我觉的美国食物不建康是和饮食业的商业化有关。 简单，快捷，大量的半成品，造成
: 不建康。 其实你好好做你的土豆泥，沙拉，汉堡，也不见得会不特别的不健康。 但是
: 你要在短时间内用廉价，根本不懂烹饪劳工造出大量的食品，肯定不建康。 就像熊猫
: 快餐也不建康。
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M*****n
发帖数: 16729 | |
c*********e
发帖数: 16335 | 47 白人吃pizza,烤的东西太多。这类食物很热，又干，吃完就想喝水，而且喝冰水感觉更
好。
【在 xt 的大作中提到】
: 实际上问题不光是吃的东西太油腻，还有个大问题
: 就是吃大量生冷食品，特别是冷饮。从中医角度讲
: 这些东西伤脾，导致脾虚水困。由此大象腿啤酒肚
: 就产生了。
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c*********e
发帖数: 16335 | 48 diabetes是富贵病，只有有钱人才可能得啊。老墨其实是bso
要她孩子象非洲饥民那样吃，保证不会得diabetes.
Angeles
longer
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 和老留80年代初到美国被超大汉堡油炸鸡块所震撼一样吧, 那时国内每月才30斤粮票肉
: 一斤半啊.
: The Health Toll of Immigration
: Esther Angeles, 41, with her daughter, Johanna Marisol Gomez, 7. Ms. Angeles
: has developed diabetes since coming to the United States and struggles to
: see that her daughter eats healthfully
: By SABRINA TAVERNISE
: BROWNSVILLE, Tex. — Becoming an American can be bad for your health.
: A growing body of mortality research on immigrants has shown that the longer
: they live in this country, the worse their rates of heart disease, high
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c****g
发帖数: 37081 | 49 wendy的效费比不是更高？
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】
: 老印女优秀的比例和老印男一样。你去看Fortune 500的公司，好多三女在里面做高管
: 。百事的CEO就是印度女，把摩托和思科搞残的那个女CTO也是印度的。两边都优秀，怎
: 么可能收入不高。
: 而华人大多都是靠华男自己撑着。华男在公司爬梯子可能比不过印男，但是华人的优点
: 是创业，所以什么Nvidia的创始人，Zappo的创始人，雅虎的创始人，都是华男。而华
: 女无论什么方面就都完全拿不出手。
: 所以平均收入水平华裔家庭就比不过印裔家庭了。
: 偏偏是这样，有些国女还非常厚脸皮的把华男和印男拿来比，看不见自己和印女的差距
: 完全不是一个数量级的。
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s**********0
发帖数: 2798 | 50
好多印度人是不消化牛奶的，喝了牛奶后就拉稀。。
东亚人还好，反正目前只见过这样的印度人，还没见过
这样的中国人。。
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】
: 很多人有误解。
: 首先，印度人不是完全的高加索人种，而是高加索父系血统和南亚次大陆土著母系血统
: 的混合。而且其中土著血统占绝大多数。
: 其次，吃素的人如果完全蛋白质摄入不够，反而更容易肥胖。因为身体偏缺某些必须的
: 营养时，就会不停的释放饥饿信号，导致人总觉得吃不饱，食量大增。印度人的饮食里
: 大米土豆小麦是主要淀粉来源，剩下的都是些蔬菜，基本不吃肉，所以很容易饿，饭量
: 也很大，就容易胖了。
: 东亚人饮食比较均衡，蛋白质、蔬菜、淀粉都有，所以比较健康。
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c*********e
发帖数: 16335 | 51 烙印吃素，這個对身体好。看到好多吃素的烙印，长得很壮。
【在 l*********1 的大作中提到】
: 至少在加州，印度人是亚裔里平均寿命最长的，比华人和日本人都长。有些东西不能仅
: 凭印象。印度人可能不去gym，但是去gym并不能使人长寿，白人去gym也根本不是为了
: 长寿，而是为了增加自己的吸引力。
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r*******3
发帖数: 10886 | 52 呵呵，你是不是因为几年前虚症比较厉害然后中医调理好些了就开始对中医进行了解了
。俺记得你那会是阳虚来着？
【在 xt 的大作中提到】
: 这个东西是培养大象腿必备！
: 其实那些大象腿的人还特别怕冷，因为阳虚。
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 53
吃素一点不影响长肉， 倒是对降血脂有好处真的。
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: 烙印吃素，這個对身体好。看到好多吃素的烙印，长得很壮。
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O*******d
发帖数: 20343 | 54 美国火葬场的炉子，可以烧重量高至1000磅的死人。 设计时就考虑到了美国人普遍肥
胖。 瑞典的一个火葬场发生过一件事，一个400磅的女尸，其脂肪在火葬炉中猛烈燃
烧，产生的烟雾把过滤器堵塞，导致炉中大火，几乎把火葬场都烧了。所以美国的火
葬炉，设计的可以承受超重尸体的燃烧。 |
G*****n
发帖数: 3863 | 55 我倒见过好多中国人乳糖不耐受。好像南方人比较多。可能北方人混了一些蒙古血统，
所以可以消化乳制品。
【在 s**********0 的大作中提到】
:
: 好多印度人是不消化牛奶的，喝了牛奶后就拉稀。。
: 东亚人还好，反正目前只见过这样的印度人，还没见过
: 这样的中国人。。
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 56
中国的呢？
【在 O*******d 的大作中提到】
: 美国火葬场的炉子，可以烧重量高至1000磅的死人。 设计时就考虑到了美国人普遍肥
: 胖。 瑞典的一个火葬场发生过一件事，一个400磅的女尸，其脂肪在火葬炉中猛烈燃
: 烧，产生的烟雾把过滤器堵塞，导致炉中大火，几乎把火葬场都烧了。所以美国的火
: 葬炉，设计的可以承受超重尸体的燃烧。
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d***3
发帖数: 651 | 57 阿三吃油应该不少，而且咖喱什么的都是洋葱高度萃取的，中国古代都算“荤”，和尚
不吃，因为刺激性欲，我猜这也是为何阿三强奸频发 |
M*****e
发帖数: 4550 | 58 加州华裔平均寿命好像接近90了
不是美国食物让人短寿，而是很多族裔的饮食习惯让人短寿，同样的饮食习惯，放到中
国，那肯定更短
Angeles
longer
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 和老留80年代初到美国被超大汉堡油炸鸡块所震撼一样吧, 那时国内每月才30斤粮票肉
: 一斤半啊.
: The Health Toll of Immigration
: Esther Angeles, 41, with her daughter, Johanna Marisol Gomez, 7. Ms. Angeles
: has developed diabetes since coming to the United States and struggles to
: see that her daughter eats healthfully
: By SABRINA TAVERNISE
: BROWNSVILLE, Tex. — Becoming an American can be bad for your health.
: A growing body of mortality research on immigrants has shown that the longer
: they live in this country, the worse their rates of heart disease, high
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 59
为什么加州华人活这么长值得研究. 食品种类丰富是一个原因, 可以随时找到自己喜欢
吃的不用天天面对皮洒汉堡炸鸡块; 气候也好, 没有极端气温变化, 好多严寒和爆热造
成的病就免了.
【在 M*****e 的大作中提到】
: 加州华裔平均寿命好像接近90了
: 不是美国食物让人短寿，而是很多族裔的饮食习惯让人短寿，同样的饮食习惯，放到中
: 国，那肯定更短
:
: Angeles
: longer
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