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l*****7
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前总统卡特支持斯诺登和芝麻仁!!!
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/Military/39979855.html
1. George Zimmerman Jury 'Made The Right Decision' (link 1)
2. Former President Jimmy Carter announced support for NSA whistleblower
Edward
Snowden this week, saying that his uncovering of the agency’s massive
surveillance programs had proven “beneficial” …
“America does not have a functioning democracy at this point in time,”
Carter said, according to a translation by Inquisitr.
l*****7
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1. George Zimmerman Jury 'Made The Right Decision' (link 1)
2. Former President Jimmy Carter announced support for NSA whistleblower
Edward
Snowden this week, saying that his uncovering of the agency’s massive
surveillance programs had proven “beneficial” …
“America does not have a functioning democracy at this point in time,”
Carter said, according to a translation by Inquisitr.
(link 2)
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Jimmy Carter: George Zimmerman Jury 'Made The Right Decision' (VIDEO)
The Huffington Post | By Nick Wing
Posted: 07/17/2013 9:11 am EDT | Updated: 07/17/2013 5:30 pm EDT
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Former President Jimmy Carter weighed in Tuesday on the recent verdict
handed down in the trial of George Zimmerman, the Florida man who faced
murder charges for the 2012 killing of unarmed teen Trayvon Martin. Speaking
with Atlanta's WXIA, Carter said he believed the jury's decision to acquit
Zimmerman was correct, in part because the prosecution had been overly
ambitious.
"I think the jury made the right decision based in the evidence presented
because the prosecution inadvertently set the standard so high that the jury
had to be convinced that it was a deliberate act by Zimmerman and that he
was not defending himself and so forth," he said. "It's not a moral question
, it's a legal question and the American law requires that the jury listens
to the evidence presented."
Asked if he thought Martin's killing and Zimmerman's case presented any
broader issues of race, Carter said not necessarily, considering the
prosecution didn't bring up any alleged racial motivation during the trial.
He also said he believed the vocal and at times physical backlash to the not
guilty verdict would subside as people "start seeing what we can do about
the present and the future and put aside the feelings about the past."
Carter said he agreed with President Barack Obama regarding the trial. On
Sunday, the president released a statement saying that despite personal
disagreements over the verdict, "we are a nation of laws, and a jury has
spoken."
While Zimmerman has been released and given his gun back, the legal saga is
not over yet. The Department of Justice began to examine evidence this week
in its investigation to determine if Zimmerman was motivated by racial
animosity in his shooting of Martin. While Obama has not pressed for a civil
rights case, a number of petitions have arisen demanding follow-up charges
from the Justice Department.
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link below:
http://wonkette.com/523123/jimmy-carter-says-nsa-surveillance-h
Jimmy Carter Says NSA Surveillance Has Killed Democracy; Didn’t Notice
Other Suspects Holding Bloody Axes (Updated)
by Kris E. Benson
JIMMEHJimmy Carter, your Wonkette’s favorite elder statesman, caused a bit
of a kerfuffle with statements made at a closed-door event in Atlanta for an
Atlantic Bridge meeting:
”Amerika hat derzeit keine funktionierende Demokratie”, sagte Carter am
Dienstag bei einer Veranstaltung der “Atlantik-Brücke” in Atlanta.
No, the kerfuffle was not caused by Jimmy Carter speaking German at the
Atlantic Bridge meeting; it is in German because no American press outlets
showed up to cover the event. The kerfuffle resulted from the English
translation of Der Spiegel‘s German translation of Jimmy Carter’s speech,
as well as the context within which it was said. From HuffPo:
Former President Jimmy Carter announced support for NSA whistleblower Edward
Snowden this week, saying that his uncovering of the agency’s massive
surveillance programs had proven “beneficial” …
“America does not have a functioning democracy at this point in time,”
Carter said, according to a translation by Inquisitr.
UPDATED BELOW: Would you believe Jimmy Carter’s cool grandson, JE Carter IV
, says nuh uh, never happened?
On one hand, we love Jimmy Carter. On the other, we disagree with his
analysis that democracy was compromised by PRISM, so we have a bit of a
quandary. See, for the past couple decades we’ve been living in an era of
widespread gerrymandering, a loophole-ridden tax system that allows
companies like GE to avoid paying any taxes at all, and a bifurcated legal
system that rarely holds elites accountable for even the most egregious
examples of wrongdoing. So no disrespect to Jimmy Carter, our favorite ex-
President, but democracy was already bleeding out when PRISM was being
developed.
In June, while Snowden was scrambling to send out asylum requests from an
airport in Russia, Carter appeared to back the former NSA contractor’s
efforts to remain out of U.S. custody.
“He’s obviously violated the laws of America, for which he’s responsible,
but I think the invasion of human rights and American privacy has gone too
far,” he told CNN, saying that nations were within their right to offer
asylum to Snowden. “I think that the secrecy that has been surrounding this
invasion of privacy has been excessive, so I think that the bringing of it
to the public notice has probably been, in the long term, beneficial.”
Beneficial to WHOM, Jimmy Carter? The terrorists? Because it has definitely
benefited the terrorists, we don’t know how it has benefited them because
that’s classified. And we don’t know which terrorists it has benefitted
because that is also classified. Come to think of it, does democracy benefit
the terrorists? Not sure, that’s classified, but better get rid of it just
in case.
UPDATE! James E. Carter IV pinged us to be all “nope.”
So was it incorrectly translated, or just completely incorrect period?
Because the English translation from the German translation is correct, and
presumably the German translation from the English was correct. (Those
Germans, with their fancy “multilingual education.”) Was it made up
completely? Taken out of context? Translated technically correctly but
robbed of nuance or what?
No, says Carter. “[The quote] is just wrong. He didn’t say anything that
he hadn’t said before about NSA/Snowden
I asked.”
Well, SOMEBODY is a liar here, and we are going to state without anything to
back it up whatsoever that it is neither Jimmy Carter nor his grandson,
because of radness.
Read more at http://wonkette.com/523123/jimmy-carter-says-nsa-surveillance-has-killed-democracy-didnt-notice-other-suspects-holding-bloody-axes#P9iUVdSUI1R6BHLR.99
b**********s
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虽然台上搞得不怎么样,不过下台以后远离权力中心,还是有清醒头脑的。
m******n
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卡特最大的贡献就是拉上中国, 对抗苏联

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: 虽然台上搞得不怎么样,不过下台以后远离权力中心,还是有清醒头脑的。
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