w********n 发帖数: 1119 | 1 瘫痪的尼哥正试图帮助路虎男缓减紧张气氛的时候,被路虎男 高速撞击了
Gloria Allred:tells reporters that Mr. Mieses was trying to help the driver
of the SUV diffuse the situation, when he was run over.
我靠, 这律师太强悍了, 如此颠倒黑白啊, 这律师盯上了路虎男的豪宅和钱包了
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20820832-gloria-allr
The motorcycle rider whose spine was crushed when he was run over by an SUV
fleeing an angry swarm of bikers is an "innocent victim" who was trying to
calm the confrontation, his high-profile attorney said Friday.
At a Manhattan news conference, Gloria Allred said Edwin "Jay" Mieses, 32,
had his back to the Range Rover and was trying to get fellow bikers to walk
away when he was struck "at top speed" last Sunday.
Gloria Allred, attorney for injured motorcyclist Edwin Mieses, Jr. tells
reporters that Mr. Mieses was trying to help the driver of the SUV diffuse
the situation, when he was run over.
"His sole intention was to defuse the situation," said Allred, a Los Angeles
attorney who often handles headline-grabbing sexual harassment cases.
"Watch that huge vehicle, SUV, blast off, and watch it as it is lifted
several feet off the ground as it rolls over Edwin Mieses," she said of
video of the incident, which has gotten millions of hits on YouTube.
Allred said she was in no way justifying what happened after Mieses was hit,
when the driver, Alexian Lien, was chased 50 blocks by the riders, pulled
from his vehicle and beaten.
"Edwin Mieses and his family deplore what happened to the driver of the SUV,
" she said.
"However, let us not lose sight of the fact that Mr. Mieses had done nothing
to Mr. Lien," she added. "We don't think our client should have been run
over and crushed."
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Allred said the family has not decided whether to sue Lien, 33, and is
cooperating with the Manhattan District Attorney's office as it investigates.
Related: Dangerous new breed of biker gang seeks Internet glory
Lien's wife, Rosalyn Ng, released a statement Thursday expressing sympathy
for Mieses but saying her husband had no choice but to flee the bikers
because it was a "life-threatening situation."
"Our fear for our lives was confirmed when the incident ended with the
ruthless and brutal attack on my husband, me, and, most importantly, our two
-year-old child," Ng said.
Deliliah Domenech
Edwin "Jay" Mieses may be paralyzed after being hit during a clash between
bikers and an SUV on the West Side Highway.
Neither Lien nor Mieses have been charged with a crime, but the biker
involved in the minor fender bender that triggered the confrontation was
arrested.
Christopher Cruz was charged with reckless driving and unlawful imprisonment
for slowing down in front of Lien's Range Rover as the pack of riders
roared down West Side Highway.
When Lien clipped Cruz's back tire, other bikers stopped and some began
attacking the SUV with their helmets and slashing its tires, police said.
That's when Lien sped away, hitting Mieses, who suffered a broken spine,
torn aortic valve and punctured lung.
“Doctors have indicated they do not know whether or not he will ever walk
again,” Allred said.
"It's a miracle he survived. He faces a very uncertain future."
The bikers were taking part in a loosely organized unauthorized daredevil
rally dubbed Hollywood Stuntz, police said. Mieses, an aspiring rapper from
Lawrence, Mass., only knew one other rider, said his wife, who defended the
two-wheelers.
"They are not gang members. They are not thugs," Dayana Mejia said,
tearfully describing her husband as a devoted father of two.
Allred deflected questions about her new client's driving record: he was
named a habitual traffic offender in June and his right to drive was revoked
until 2017; he does not have a motorcycle license, records show.
She said it was "irrelevant" because even though he drove to and
participated in the rally, he was off his bike at the time he was run over.
She also upbraided the public for "prejudice" against bikers.
She said the family was seeking justice but when asked what form that would
take, she replied, "We'll see."
Mieses father, a Pennsylvania pastor, said he felt "no anger" toward anyone,
including Lien.
"The driver of the SUV is going to eventually have to face what he did," he
said. |
d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 2 当事人还没清醒过来, 律师就知道当时发生什么。
这比王瞎子还半仙啊
driver
SUV
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 瘫痪的尼哥正试图帮助路虎男缓减紧张气氛的时候,被路虎男 高速撞击了 : Gloria Allred:tells reporters that Mr. Mieses was trying to help the driver : of the SUV diffuse the situation, when he was run over. : 我靠, 这律师太强悍了, 如此颠倒黑白啊, 这律师盯上了路虎男的豪宅和钱包了 : http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20820832-gloria-allr : The motorcycle rider whose spine was crushed when he was run over by an SUV : fleeing an angry swarm of bikers is an "innocent victim" who was trying to : calm the confrontation, his high-profile attorney said Friday. : At a Manhattan news conference, Gloria Allred said Edwin "Jay" Mieses, 32, : had his back to the Range Rover and was trying to get fellow bikers to walk
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S*******T 发帖数: 5156 | 3 我要是路虎男,钱留给老婆孩子,命也不要了,直接找上门杀这律师全家
太他妈没有底线了!
driver
SUV
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 瘫痪的尼哥正试图帮助路虎男缓减紧张气氛的时候,被路虎男 高速撞击了 : Gloria Allred:tells reporters that Mr. Mieses was trying to help the driver : of the SUV diffuse the situation, when he was run over. : 我靠, 这律师太强悍了, 如此颠倒黑白啊, 这律师盯上了路虎男的豪宅和钱包了 : http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20820832-gloria-allr : The motorcycle rider whose spine was crushed when he was run over by an SUV : fleeing an angry swarm of bikers is an "innocent victim" who was trying to : calm the confrontation, his high-profile attorney said Friday. : At a Manhattan news conference, Gloria Allred said Edwin "Jay" Mieses, 32, : had his back to the Range Rover and was trying to get fellow bikers to walk
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w********n 发帖数: 1119 | 4 律师:她的当事人和随后发生的追逐殴打事情没有半毛钱关系
Allred said she was in no way justifying what happened after Mieses was hit,
when the driver, Alexian Lien, was chased 50 blocks by the riders, pulled
from his vehicle and beaten.
"Edwin Mieses and his family deplore what happened to the driver of the SUV,
" she said.
"However, let us not lose sight of the fact that Mr. Mieses had done nothing
to Mr. Lien," she added. "We don't think our client should have been run
over and crushed." |
l*****9 发帖数: 9501 | 5 如果他永远醒不过来了,是不是只有连的说法值得取信了?
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 当事人还没清醒过来, 律师就知道当时发生什么。 : 这比王瞎子还半仙啊 : : driver : SUV
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l********g 发帖数: 6760 | 6 此律师会不会派人潜入mitbbs,收集黄皮(lqm等)为黑皮辩护的思路?? |
d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 7 这种案子基本都会上jury了, 她也就是那么一说, 要看jury信不信了。
不过这官司扯皮不知道得扯多少年。
看上下文的意思, 她在寻求settle.
hit,
SUV,
nothing
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 律师:她的当事人和随后发生的追逐殴打事情没有半毛钱关系 : Allred said she was in no way justifying what happened after Mieses was hit, : when the driver, Alexian Lien, was chased 50 blocks by the riders, pulled : from his vehicle and beaten. : "Edwin Mieses and his family deplore what happened to the driver of the SUV, : " she said. : "However, let us not lose sight of the fact that Mr. Mieses had done nothing : to Mr. Lien," she added. "We don't think our client should have been run : over and crushed."
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H*********S 发帖数: 22772 | 8 这女的应该算美国顶级精英阶层了,她确实很出色,不得不承认
可惜美国顶级精英基本集中在法医商这些恶搞型专业,他们只会最终搞烂美国 |
l*****9 发帖数: 9501 | 9 你太小看美国第一律师了
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 此律师会不会派人潜入mitbbs,收集黄皮(lqm等)为黑皮辩护的思路??
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g*q 发帖数: 26623 | 10 基本上就是在诈他,Lien很有可能因为怕惹事而同意给点小钱和解.
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这种案子基本都会上jury了, 她也就是那么一说, 要看jury信不信了。 : 不过这官司扯皮不知道得扯多少年。 : 看上下文的意思, 她在寻求settle. : : hit, : SUV, : nothing
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w********n 发帖数: 1119 | 11 这律师, 估计要想和路虎男settle down, 要路虎男赔上五百万(路虎男现在豪宅的
钱), 然后律师提成四成,她一个官司就到手两百万啊
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这种案子基本都会上jury了, 她也就是那么一说, 要看jury信不信了。 : 不过这官司扯皮不知道得扯多少年。 : 看上下文的意思, 她在寻求settle. : : hit, : SUV, : nothing
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d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 12 也不能这么说, 如果美国继续保持一定的资本上游优势, 还是能继续吸引brain
drain的。
但是一旦形势逆转, 就很难再翻转回来了。
美国的发达来自欧洲大陆的宗教迫害, 政治纷乱, 以及两次大战。大量人才的涌入,
现代则依赖亚太的下游产业链。
制度的优越性? 基本属于扯淡, 它只不过是比墨西哥优越一点罢了, 因为没有其他
更有力的竞争者了。
【在 H*********S 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这女的应该算美国顶级精英阶层了,她确实很出色,不得不承认 : 可惜美国顶级精英基本集中在法医商这些恶搞型专业,他们只会最终搞烂美国
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d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 13 我要是有虎男的身家, 我会愿意拿出1米粒来settle。
就是不知道这鲨鱼的胃口有多大
【在 g*q 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 基本上就是在诈他,Lien很有可能因为怕惹事而同意给点小钱和解.
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g*q 发帖数: 26623 | 14 这个事情,你可以说这个被撞的biker可怜/倒霉,但是它倒霉就一定要SUV司机负责么? |
l*****9 发帖数: 9501 | 15 30 mil minimum
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这律师, 估计要想和路虎男settle down, 要路虎男赔上五百万(路虎男现在豪宅的 : 钱), 然后律师提成四成,她一个官司就到手两百万啊
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d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 16 从背景推测, 虎哥应该有10个M.
他04年工作吧, 近10年了, 一直都是founder和高管的职位。 10年下来高级码工都能
攒下个1.5M的身家了。 运气好进了flag之类的或者投资眼光好一点的还要double
triple.
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这律师, 估计要想和路虎男settle down, 要路虎男赔上五百万(路虎男现在豪宅的 : 钱), 然后律师提成四成,她一个官司就到手两百万啊
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G**Y 发帖数: 33224 | 17 人家肯定这么说呀。问题是你能不能找着证据说残男参与的打砸抢
driver
SUV
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 瘫痪的尼哥正试图帮助路虎男缓减紧张气氛的时候,被路虎男 高速撞击了 : Gloria Allred:tells reporters that Mr. Mieses was trying to help the driver : of the SUV diffuse the situation, when he was run over. : 我靠, 这律师太强悍了, 如此颠倒黑白啊, 这律师盯上了路虎男的豪宅和钱包了 : http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20820832-gloria-allr : The motorcycle rider whose spine was crushed when he was run over by an SUV : fleeing an angry swarm of bikers is an "innocent victim" who was trying to : calm the confrontation, his high-profile attorney said Friday. : At a Manhattan news conference, Gloria Allred said Edwin "Jay" Mieses, 32, : had his back to the Range Rover and was trying to get fellow bikers to walk
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w********n 发帖数: 1119 | 18 这个青年终身瘫痪, 这个费用是个无底洞, 即使settle down, 恐怕不会就是一个
米能打发,
这种官司旷日持久, 即使路虎男打赢了 , 他这边请律师费恐怕也是天文数字
人要倒霉, 真是喝水都塞牙缝啊 |
G**Y 发帖数: 33224 | 19 我估计索赔应该是几十Million。
人家律师不知算你现在有多少钱,还要算你下半辈子值多少钱
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个青年终身瘫痪, 这个费用是个无底洞, 即使settle down, 恐怕不会就是一个 : 米能打发, : 这种官司旷日持久, 即使路虎男打赢了 , 他这边请律师费恐怕也是天文数字 : 人要倒霉, 真是喝水都塞牙缝啊
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d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 20 所以能settle还是settle了, 美国这社会现状, 真心玩不过律师
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个青年终身瘫痪, 这个费用是个无底洞, 即使settle down, 恐怕不会就是一个 : 米能打发, : 这种官司旷日持久, 即使路虎男打赢了 , 他这边请律师费恐怕也是天文数字 : 人要倒霉, 真是喝水都塞牙缝啊
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d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 21 应该不是这么算。
这帮律师人精子, 一般索赔都是你常年累月打官司的花销的略高一点的数额,
maximum pain.
太贪婪了, 一般别人就跟他血战到底了, 而且即使case输了, 又一堆律师会计师会
冲上来帮你整umbrella.
victim & lawers反而一分钱都拿不到了。
【在 G**Y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我估计索赔应该是几十Million。 : 人家律师不知算你现在有多少钱,还要算你下半辈子值多少钱
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d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 22 天价索赔一般都是告政府律师这样的跑不了的和尚庙。
个人索赔还是有个界限的。
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 应该不是这么算。 : 这帮律师人精子, 一般索赔都是你常年累月打官司的花销的略高一点的数额, : maximum pain. : 太贪婪了, 一般别人就跟他血战到底了, 而且即使case输了, 又一堆律师会计师会 : 冲上来帮你整umbrella. : victim & lawers反而一分钱都拿不到了。
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j*********n 发帖数: 6034 | 23 律师说谎难道不能被问罪啊?
睁眼说瞎话吧。
之前干吗去了。在中国,早被城管灭了。
driver
SUV
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 瘫痪的尼哥正试图帮助路虎男缓减紧张气氛的时候,被路虎男 高速撞击了 : Gloria Allred:tells reporters that Mr. Mieses was trying to help the driver : of the SUV diffuse the situation, when he was run over. : 我靠, 这律师太强悍了, 如此颠倒黑白啊, 这律师盯上了路虎男的豪宅和钱包了 : http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20820832-gloria-allr : The motorcycle rider whose spine was crushed when he was run over by an SUV : fleeing an angry swarm of bikers is an "innocent victim" who was trying to : calm the confrontation, his high-profile attorney said Friday. : At a Manhattan news conference, Gloria Allred said Edwin "Jay" Mieses, 32, : had his back to the Range Rover and was trying to get fellow bikers to walk
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w********n 发帖数: 1119 | 24 这律师就是先放一个风出来看对方反应, 以收集对方反应和情报, 她这么什么损失都
没有, 惯用技俩, 哪怕决定打官司, 也故意误导对方一下
这个律师非常不容易对付, 是个老油子, 善于操作媒体和大众情绪, 要小心
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这种案子基本都会上jury了, 她也就是那么一说, 要看jury信不信了。 : 不过这官司扯皮不知道得扯多少年。 : 看上下文的意思, 她在寻求settle. : : hit, : SUV, : nothing
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l****p 发帖数: 27354 | 25 说话得有证据,否则只能按同伙处理。
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这律师就是先放一个风出来看对方反应, 以收集对方反应和情报, 她这么什么损失都 : 没有, 惯用技俩, 哪怕决定打官司, 也故意误导对方一下 : 这个律师非常不容易对付, 是个老油子, 善于操作媒体和大众情绪, 要小心
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I*3 发帖数: 7012 | 26 你愿不愿意在小碰撞后,不碾逃,立马用半米来settle?
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我要是有虎男的身家, 我会愿意拿出1米粒来settle。 : 就是不知道这鲨鱼的胃口有多大
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j*********n 发帖数: 6034 | 27 http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/217012.php
给名律师配个图。看看丫咋继续编。
driver
SUV
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 瘫痪的尼哥正试图帮助路虎男缓减紧张气氛的时候,被路虎男 高速撞击了 : Gloria Allred:tells reporters that Mr. Mieses was trying to help the driver : of the SUV diffuse the situation, when he was run over. : 我靠, 这律师太强悍了, 如此颠倒黑白啊, 这律师盯上了路虎男的豪宅和钱包了 : http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20820832-gloria-allr : The motorcycle rider whose spine was crushed when he was run over by an SUV : fleeing an angry swarm of bikers is an "innocent victim" who was trying to : calm the confrontation, his high-profile attorney said Friday. : At a Manhattan news conference, Gloria Allred said Edwin "Jay" Mieses, 32, : had his back to the Range Rover and was trying to get fellow bikers to walk
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l*****9 发帖数: 9501 | 28 The family of biker Jay Mieses said he was seriously injured when the SUV
plowed into several bikers.
"He got scared and peeled off and paralyzed my husband on the way," Mieses
said.
Yolando Santiago, the injured biker's mother, said that all of her son's
ribs are fractured and his lungs are so badly bruised that he is still on a
ventilator.
"We believe he has two broken legs, and he's intubated, and he may be
paralyzed," New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said.
However, Kelly would not say whether the SUV driver was right or wrong in
what he did.
"You have to look at the totality of the circumstances and that's what we're
doing," said Kelly.
Whether the SUV driver ran over the bikers because he felt threatened is
still to be determined, and the situation only escalated from that point.
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K******r 发帖数: 4052 | 29 测谎仪对各种律师早就失灵了
何况这种讼棍
【在 j*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 律师说谎难道不能被问罪啊? : 睁眼说瞎话吧。 : 之前干吗去了。在中国,早被城管灭了。 : : driver : SUV
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d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 30 其实应该说, 瘫子把车停在RR之前, 就是参与了confrontation, 不符合bystander的
情景了。
所以这个律师才扯出来瘫子是要去帮助diffuse the situation.
这就是律师一张嘴, 看jury信不信了。
RR这边不需要证明他打砸抢了, RR的逃跑已经不需要承担连带责任的了。
【在 G**Y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 人家肯定这么说呀。问题是你能不能找着证据说残男参与的打砸抢 : : driver : SUV
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l*****9 发帖数: 9501 | 31 not true
【在 l****p 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 说话得有证据,否则只能按同伙处理。
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l*****9 发帖数: 9501 | 32 at that moment, there is really no need to settle
【在 I*3 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你愿不愿意在小碰撞后,不碾逃,立马用半米来settle?
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K******r 发帖数: 4052 | 33 为啥不贵田
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【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The family of biker Jay Mieses said he was seriously injured when the SUV : plowed into several bikers. : "He got scared and peeled off and paralyzed my husband on the way," Mieses : said. : Yolando Santiago, the injured biker's mother, said that all of her son's : ribs are fractured and his lungs are so badly bruised that he is still on a : ventilator. : "We believe he has two broken legs, and he's intubated, and he may be : paralyzed," New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said. : However, Kelly would not say whether the SUV driver was right or wrong in
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l****p 发帖数: 27354 | 34 你这个不是论辩。
【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : not true
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K******r 发帖数: 4052 | 35 jury怎么可能相信
除非都请天使
要去缓解就不会把车停正前方了
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 其实应该说, 瘫子把车停在RR之前, 就是参与了confrontation, 不符合bystander的 : 情景了。 : 所以这个律师才扯出来瘫子是要去帮助diffuse the situation. : 这就是律师一张嘴, 看jury信不信了。 : RR这边不需要证明他打砸抢了, RR的逃跑已经不需要承担连带责任的了。
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K******r 发帖数: 4052 | 36 上去的都是找事儿的
【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : at that moment, there is really no need to settle
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l*****9 发帖数: 9501 | 37 lawyers are not on trial
you are ignorant to American Judicial system
【在 l****p 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你这个不是论辩。
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l*****9 发帖数: 9501 | 38 that's your profession
【在 K******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 为啥不贵田 : : a
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d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 39 为什么美国法庭找jury尽找学历低, 对很多事情没有预设立场的。
就因为这些人学历低, 判断力低下, 被律师忽悠几下就晕头转向了。
把法庭的主控权交给律师的舌辨, 而不是正常的良知情理判断。
所以, 法庭上, 确实什么事情都可能发生。
【在 K******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : jury怎么可能相信 : 除非都请天使 : 要去缓解就不会把车停正前方了
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x****u 发帖数: 12955 | 40
driver
SUV
Since Mr. Mieses is still comatose, I wonder how was she able to determine
that it was his "sole intention" to diffuse the situation.
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 瘫痪的尼哥正试图帮助路虎男缓减紧张气氛的时候,被路虎男 高速撞击了 : Gloria Allred:tells reporters that Mr. Mieses was trying to help the driver : of the SUV diffuse the situation, when he was run over. : 我靠, 这律师太强悍了, 如此颠倒黑白啊, 这律师盯上了路虎男的豪宅和钱包了 : http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20820832-gloria-allr : The motorcycle rider whose spine was crushed when he was run over by an SUV : fleeing an angry swarm of bikers is an "innocent victim" who was trying to : calm the confrontation, his high-profile attorney said Friday. : At a Manhattan news conference, Gloria Allred said Edwin "Jay" Mieses, 32, : had his back to the Range Rover and was trying to get fellow bikers to walk
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l****p 发帖数: 27354 | 41 你顶多可以埋怨美国的制度不合理,你无法反驳我。在没有铁证的情况下,只能看
common sense, 口供因为有conflict of interest,是不能作为证据的。
【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : lawyers are not on trial : you are ignorant to American Judicial system
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l*****9 发帖数: 9501 | 42 你说谁按同伙处理?
【在 l****p 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你顶多可以埋怨美国的制度不合理,你无法反驳我。在没有铁证的情况下,只能看 : common sense, 口供因为有conflict of interest,是不能作为证据的。
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m*****5 发帖数: 23482 | 43 警方取证还没搞完,她手上有个屁的资料,这个只是在援引刁民的话,到法庭上,谁提
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G****1 发帖数: 8414 | 44
对头,就像芝麻人案子上,最后给崔旺打电话的的那个一样,最后搞出一份自己不认识
的证言一样。
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 警方取证还没搞完,她手上有个屁的资料,这个只是在援引刁民的话,到法庭上,谁提 : 议谁就要举证,到时候刁民十八代祖宗坐台都搞不来可信的证据
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b********6 发帖数: 35437 | 45 民事法庭有jury吗
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 为什么美国法庭找jury尽找学历低, 对很多事情没有预设立场的。 : 就因为这些人学历低, 判断力低下, 被律师忽悠几下就晕头转向了。 : 把法庭的主控权交给律师的舌辨, 而不是正常的良知情理判断。 : 所以, 法庭上, 确实什么事情都可能发生。
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l****p 发帖数: 27354 | 46 对啊,同伙是共进退的,自己当时没有攻击也有罪过。
【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你说谁按同伙处理?
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x*****u 发帖数: 6559 | 47
呵呵,律师有啥道德底线? 当时芝麻仁的律师为杀人犯辩护也没见你激动。 人现在还
没起诉陆虎男呢。你激动啥?
【在 S*******T 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我要是路虎男,钱留给老婆孩子,命也不要了,直接找上门杀这律师全家 : 太他妈没有底线了! : : driver : SUV
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d******r 发帖数: 16947 | 48 自己被打还要赔钱,路虎男真不一般
网上诈唬的id有多少资产赔进去?
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 所以能settle还是settle了, 美国这社会现状, 真心玩不过律师
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l*****9 发帖数: 9501 | 49 you haven't answered my question yet: 你说谁按同伙处理, I thought you mean
Lawyer
【在 l****p 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 对啊,同伙是共进退的,自己当时没有攻击也有罪过。
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l****p 发帖数: 27354 | 50 不是,那个被碾的,律师不是作证。如果她这个话算作证,就是典型的伪证,当然她也
不傻,不会说她要作证 。
【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : you haven't answered my question yet: 你说谁按同伙处理, I thought you mean : Lawyer
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S*******T 发帖数: 5156 | 51 芝麻仁杀催旺我觉得杀得好啊,完全是自卫。
杀人的一方不等于有错的一方,要不按你的逻辑这个陆虎男也是重伤害犯了。
我激动啥关你屁事?
【在 x*****u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : 呵呵,律师有啥道德底线? 当时芝麻仁的律师为杀人犯辩护也没见你激动。 人现在还 : 没起诉陆虎男呢。你激动啥?
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l*****9 发帖数: 9501 | 52 Your original post
发信人: lulupp (木有昵称), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: 名律师说话了:尼哥正试图劝离其同伙时被高速撞击了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 4 16:49:03 2013, 美东)
说话得有证据,否则只能按同伙处理。
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这律师就是先放一个风出来看对方反应, 以收集对方反应和情报, 她这么什么损失都 : 没有, 惯用技俩, 哪怕决定打官司, 也故意误导对方一下 : 这个律师非常不容易对付, 是个老油子, 善于操作媒体和大众情绪, 要小心
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S***J 发帖数: 657 | 53 律师一出来你们就吓尿了,就他妈这么点出息,唉! |
x*****u 发帖数: 6559 | 54
关键是还没起诉你就激动。我放的屁激动了,我自己关系一下不行吗?
【在 S*******T 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 芝麻仁杀催旺我觉得杀得好啊,完全是自卫。 : 杀人的一方不等于有错的一方,要不按你的逻辑这个陆虎男也是重伤害犯了。 : 我激动啥关你屁事?
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l****p 发帖数: 27354 | 55 这个是我打字太快误导了你,不好意思
【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Your original post : 发信人: lulupp (木有昵称), 信区: Military : 标 题: Re: 名律师说话了:尼哥正试图劝离其同伙时被高速撞击了 : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 4 16:49:03 2013, 美东) : 说话得有证据,否则只能按同伙处理。
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S*******T 发帖数: 5156 | 56 傻B,那个律师是你妈吧?70多了还要出来卖真是幸苦啊
【在 x*****u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : 关键是还没起诉你就激动。我放的屁激动了,我自己关系一下不行吗?
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j*********n 发帖数: 6034 | 57 不可能是她妈
【在 S*******T 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 傻B,那个律师是你妈吧?70多了还要出来卖真是幸苦啊
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m*****y 发帖数: 2424 | 58 This bitch is a notorious ultra-left ambulance chaser. |
d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 59 话说10年前我还觉得自己的政治立场偏向DEM的。
liberal真是自己把自己推向福利老黑劳模的绝路的
【在 m*****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : This bitch is a notorious ultra-left ambulance chaser.
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t*c 发帖数: 8291 | 60 死了都活该。
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【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The family of biker Jay Mieses said he was seriously injured when the SUV : plowed into several bikers. : "He got scared and peeled off and paralyzed my husband on the way," Mieses : said. : Yolando Santiago, the injured biker's mother, said that all of her son's : ribs are fractured and his lungs are so badly bruised that he is still on a : ventilator. : "We believe he has two broken legs, and he's intubated, and he may be : paralyzed," New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said. : However, Kelly would not say whether the SUV driver was right or wrong in
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v**o 发帖数: 4956 | 61 这位好心天使或许是被另一辆车撞的,或许是另一辆摩托车 |
t*c 发帖数: 8291 | 62 Mises老婆还说他不是thugs.
一个有十几个ticket, 被禁止驾驶到2017年,从来不拥有摩托车执照的人,
在路上骑着无证摩托车飙车,还不是thug吗。
黑人和律师都喜欢说谎,说瞎话不眨眼。
driver
SUV
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 瘫痪的尼哥正试图帮助路虎男缓减紧张气氛的时候,被路虎男 高速撞击了 : Gloria Allred:tells reporters that Mr. Mieses was trying to help the driver : of the SUV diffuse the situation, when he was run over. : 我靠, 这律师太强悍了, 如此颠倒黑白啊, 这律师盯上了路虎男的豪宅和钱包了 : http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20820832-gloria-allr : The motorcycle rider whose spine was crushed when he was run over by an SUV : fleeing an angry swarm of bikers is an "innocent victim" who was trying to : calm the confrontation, his high-profile attorney said Friday. : At a Manhattan news conference, Gloria Allred said Edwin "Jay" Mieses, 32, : had his back to the Range Rover and was trying to get fellow bikers to walk
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m*****y 发帖数: 2424 | 63 “If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a
conservative at forty you have no brain.”
-- Winston Churchill
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 话说10年前我还觉得自己的政治立场偏向DEM的。 : liberal真是自己把自己推向福利老黑劳模的绝路的
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p********e 发帖数: 6030 | 64 就壓了這一個就不知道要搞成什麼樣,版上一堆YY男還信誓旦旦的說撞死一大片也沒有
法律責任。Lien當時沒有撞人,是比你牛多了,不是比你傻。 |
I******I 发帖数: 14241 | 65 还有一点。
Jury不能对案情有过多了解。也就是说不能有预设判断,全屏律师人嘴两张皮。
铁证如山跟律师的嘴炮相比就是个屁。
如果Jury都是黑墨,十分不看好lien能全身而退。
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 为什么美国法庭找jury尽找学历低, 对很多事情没有预设立场的。 : 就因为这些人学历低, 判断力低下, 被律师忽悠几下就晕头转向了。 : 把法庭的主控权交给律师的舌辨, 而不是正常的良知情理判断。 : 所以, 法庭上, 确实什么事情都可能发生。
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I******I 发帖数: 14241 | 66 现在还在美国混的,刚出国的时候都有点老将普世的情怀。
觉得黑人是被剥削压迫的阶级弟兄。
被阶级弟兄干了几次之后,立场慢慢就转变了。
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 话说10年前我还觉得自己的政治立场偏向DEM的。 : liberal真是自己把自己推向福利老黑劳模的绝路的
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u**c 发帖数: 17972 | 67 这他妈是共产党的立场好不好?党妈最爱指责美国黑人受歧视美国政府不给黑人人权了
【在 I******I 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 现在还在美国混的,刚出国的时候都有点老将普世的情怀。 : 觉得黑人是被剥削压迫的阶级弟兄。 : 被阶级弟兄干了几次之后,立场慢慢就转变了。
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p********e 发帖数: 6030 | 68 這黑人不是已經在網上募捐了2千塊了嗎?這律師怎麼還想多要? |
x*****i 发帖数: 5035 | 69 Gloria Allred 是一个民权律师,经常帮弱势群体打官司,代表过很多著名案件,也有
很多
案件是完全不收钱的,这次这个华裔肯定不会有刑事麻烦,但是民事赔偿是肯定的,不
知道是否有可能走保险,这个华裔算是有钱人,肯定有伞险的吧
我们以前长途旅行,也遇到过好几次摩托车队,大概就是些兴趣俱乐部,大部分人都闪
开来让他们先走,平时路上遇到自行车俱乐部也一样,毕竟出事了就麻烦了 |
k********g 发帖数: 185 | 70 陆虎男就不会请律师?傻吧
[发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com] |
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M****u 发帖数: 4504 | 71 就是,请尼玛一串儿律师,她有名,路虎男人好歹哥大的,我要路虎哥H直接发起运动
,募捐基金,受过这帮杂种苦的,驱逐biker, 保护妇女儿童家人,跑马拉松公司募捐
个上万都小case, 怕个屁,都募捐,请律师开干,弄好了出台法案,压残废了黑杂碎,
基金拨钱。蝙蝠侠没有,能混到这份儿上,谁没几个高尔夫球友不是,拿钱砸,请个比
这女的更牛B的律师,排成一字型,打呗,拖丫的,说被杂碎们打出后遗症了,反控呗。
【在 k********g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 陆虎男就不会请律师?傻吧 : [发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com]
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r*********n 发帖数: 949 | 72 这条新闻后面跟了200多条评论,95%是痛骂bitch律师,支持suv driver. 很多人说话
有理有力又没脏话,老中同学要学习.也有几个一上来就骂chink的渣子
【在 S*******T 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我要是路虎男,钱留给老婆孩子,命也不要了,直接找上门杀这律师全家 : 太他妈没有底线了! : : driver : SUV
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s********e 发帖数: 11693 | 73 托梦了,这个都不知道
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 当事人还没清醒过来, 律师就知道当时发生什么。 : 这比王瞎子还半仙啊 : : driver : SUV
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b******b 发帖数: 21 | 74 凭家身和纽约的路况,Lien的liability至少1M。只要Lien不被charge.他的保险公司比
他更着急。
【在 g*q 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 基本上就是在诈他,Lien很有可能因为怕惹事而同意给点小钱和解.
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g*q 发帖数: 26623 | 75 黑墨jury肯定可以被律师踢出去
【在 I******I 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 还有一点。 : Jury不能对案情有过多了解。也就是说不能有预设判断,全屏律师人嘴两张皮。 : 铁证如山跟律师的嘴炮相比就是个屁。 : 如果Jury都是黑墨,十分不看好lien能全身而退。
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s*******g 发帖数: 78 | 76 有人报出来这位大妈律师根本没有出过庭,绝对是冲着保险公司去Settle的,然后律师
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r****5 发帖数: 442 | 77 这怎么证明是想劝离啊?
让他同伙作证有可信性么? 他的那些同伙都有不良前科, 能当证人么?
你说想劝离我还说你想攻击呢
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SUV
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 瘫痪的尼哥正试图帮助路虎男缓减紧张气氛的时候,被路虎男 高速撞击了 : Gloria Allred:tells reporters that Mr. Mieses was trying to help the driver : of the SUV diffuse the situation, when he was run over. : 我靠, 这律师太强悍了, 如此颠倒黑白啊, 这律师盯上了路虎男的豪宅和钱包了 : http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20820832-gloria-allr : The motorcycle rider whose spine was crushed when he was run over by an SUV : fleeing an angry swarm of bikers is an "innocent victim" who was trying to : calm the confrontation, his high-profile attorney said Friday. : At a Manhattan news conference, Gloria Allred said Edwin "Jay" Mieses, 32, : had his back to the Range Rover and was trying to get fellow bikers to walk
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S*******T 发帖数: 5156 | 78 你这不是刚好中了律师的奸计么?最后就算表面上官司打赢了没赔钱,自己这一方的律
师费还去了一大笔。
拿律师费的零头,去街上雇几个混混,把这老婊子搞死,尸体肢解挂在第五大道的路灯
杆上,这才是对颠倒黑白不知廉耻的讼棍的最好的回击。
呗。
【在 M****u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 就是,请尼玛一串儿律师,她有名,路虎男人好歹哥大的,我要路虎哥H直接发起运动 : ,募捐基金,受过这帮杂种苦的,驱逐biker, 保护妇女儿童家人,跑马拉松公司募捐 : 个上万都小case, 怕个屁,都募捐,请律师开干,弄好了出台法案,压残废了黑杂碎, : 基金拨钱。蝙蝠侠没有,能混到这份儿上,谁没几个高尔夫球友不是,拿钱砸,请个比 : 这女的更牛B的律师,排成一字型,打呗,拖丫的,说被杂碎们打出后遗症了,反控呗。
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v****e 发帖数: 10715 | 79 同样的道理,陆虎男也可以告瘫子危险他们啊,所以撞了他,现在凭啥就认定瘫子没干
这个,
按丫以前的纪录这个才更合理啊
driver
SUV
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 瘫痪的尼哥正试图帮助路虎男缓减紧张气氛的时候,被路虎男 高速撞击了 : Gloria Allred:tells reporters that Mr. Mieses was trying to help the driver : of the SUV diffuse the situation, when he was run over. : 我靠, 这律师太强悍了, 如此颠倒黑白啊, 这律师盯上了路虎男的豪宅和钱包了 : http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20820832-gloria-allr : The motorcycle rider whose spine was crushed when he was run over by an SUV : fleeing an angry swarm of bikers is an "innocent victim" who was trying to : calm the confrontation, his high-profile attorney said Friday. : At a Manhattan news conference, Gloria Allred said Edwin "Jay" Mieses, 32, : had his back to the Range Rover and was trying to get fellow bikers to walk
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s*****r 发帖数: 11545 | 80 no need to settle... no reasonable jury will believe her bullshit.
At first, that biker's bitchy wife claimed that he just wanted to help that
jerk Cruz, now his shameless attorney claimed that he wanted to defuse for
the SUV driver... what next? His honorable mother says that he intended to
save the world? Then his saint father might say he could have saved the
universe.
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这种案子基本都会上jury了, 她也就是那么一说, 要看jury信不信了。 : 不过这官司扯皮不知道得扯多少年。 : 看上下文的意思, 她在寻求settle. : : hit, : SUV, : nothing
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r****5 发帖数: 442 | |
S*E 发帖数: 3662 | 82 这个律师是在博取陪审团的同情。其实只要当时不是在进攻路虎,
无论做什么都是不重要的。 |
v****e 发帖数: 10715 | 83 怎么证明瘫驴没有参与攻击?
【在 S*E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个律师是在博取陪审团的同情。其实只要当时不是在进攻路虎, : 无论做什么都是不重要的。
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d******a 发帖数: 32122 | 84 美国的“良心”,美国的李庄?
driver
SUV
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 瘫痪的尼哥正试图帮助路虎男缓减紧张气氛的时候,被路虎男 高速撞击了 : Gloria Allred:tells reporters that Mr. Mieses was trying to help the driver : of the SUV diffuse the situation, when he was run over. : 我靠, 这律师太强悍了, 如此颠倒黑白啊, 这律师盯上了路虎男的豪宅和钱包了 : http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20820832-gloria-allr : The motorcycle rider whose spine was crushed when he was run over by an SUV : fleeing an angry swarm of bikers is an "innocent victim" who was trying to : calm the confrontation, his high-profile attorney said Friday. : At a Manhattan news conference, Gloria Allred said Edwin "Jay" Mieses, 32, : had his back to the Range Rover and was trying to get fellow bikers to walk
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t*d 发帖数: 1290 | 85 读者文摘上的一个故事。一个店主开枪打死了抢劫的,正当防卫,无刑事责任。但民事
法庭判店主抚养抢劫的人的单身母亲一辈子。
这个故事和此案类似吧。
driver
SUV
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 瘫痪的尼哥正试图帮助路虎男缓减紧张气氛的时候,被路虎男 高速撞击了 : Gloria Allred:tells reporters that Mr. Mieses was trying to help the driver : of the SUV diffuse the situation, when he was run over. : 我靠, 这律师太强悍了, 如此颠倒黑白啊, 这律师盯上了路虎男的豪宅和钱包了 : http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20820832-gloria-allr : The motorcycle rider whose spine was crushed when he was run over by an SUV : fleeing an angry swarm of bikers is an "innocent victim" who was trying to : calm the confrontation, his high-profile attorney said Friday. : At a Manhattan news conference, Gloria Allred said Edwin "Jay" Mieses, 32, : had his back to the Range Rover and was trying to get fellow bikers to walk
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e*g 发帖数: 4981 | |
y**c 发帖数: 6307 | 87 不会吧,那法律也忒荒谬了
【在 t*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 读者文摘上的一个故事。一个店主开枪打死了抢劫的,正当防卫,无刑事责任。但民事 : 法庭判店主抚养抢劫的人的单身母亲一辈子。 : 这个故事和此案类似吧。 : : driver : SUV
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s*****r 发帖数: 11545 | 88 of course it matters.
In my opinion, that biker purposely blocked Lien's vehicle from getting away
. He thought Lien wouldn't flee since he was in front of Lien's SUV, but
his stupid idea failed him.
Lien should sue him for false imprisonment, aiding and abetting on assault,
accomplice of attempted murder.
Besides, that pastor father is so pathetic. -- I don't hate lien, but he
will have to face what he did. My ass. As a pastor, can't he show the
minimum amount of shame for himself? How does he preach in his church? He
can't even bring up his own son in a decent way. His whole family is sick.
Who will believe any shit from his mouth? His talking about the Bible is no
more than a blasphemy towards God.
【在 S*E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个律师是在博取陪审团的同情。其实只要当时不是在进攻路虎, : 无论做什么都是不重要的。
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d******a 发帖数: 32122 | 89 是读者还是读者文摘?
【在 t*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 读者文摘上的一个故事。一个店主开枪打死了抢劫的,正当防卫,无刑事责任。但民事 : 法庭判店主抚养抢劫的人的单身母亲一辈子。 : 这个故事和此案类似吧。 : : driver : SUV
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s****i 发帖数: 5469 | 90 许多州都有正当防卫后民事免疫的法律,这个当故事看看就行了。
【在 t*d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 读者文摘上的一个故事。一个店主开枪打死了抢劫的,正当防卫,无刑事责任。但民事 : 法庭判店主抚养抢劫的人的单身母亲一辈子。 : 这个故事和此案类似吧。 : : driver : SUV
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c***h 发帖数: 1862 | 91 这个惟恐天下不乱的律师真是和铲党一样的颠倒黑白,可恶。 |
s***e 发帖数: 403 | |
c***h 发帖数: 1862 | 93 担心的事来了,惟恐天下不乱的律师嗅到了血腥味。 |
c***h 发帖数: 1862 | 94 担心的事来了,惟恐天下不乱的律师嗅到了血腥味。 |
w********t 发帖数: 12853 | 95 路虎一家的策略应该坚决不与伤者为敌。应该始终表示同情,同时继续指责肇事者和組
織者,在法庭上提出雙方都是受害者。
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 当事人还没清醒过来, 律师就知道当时发生什么。 : 这比王瞎子还半仙啊 : : driver : SUV
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z***e 发帖数: 5600 | 96 美国吗,总是应该假设每个人为自己的利益说话。他的家庭,他的律师,当然帮他说话
,没有必要期待他们为路虎男说公道话,或者被对方强词夺理而激怒。赢官司也不需要
要所有人都相信,只要能赢陪审团就成了。路虎男也会有自己的律师团,自己的策略,
证人。
driver
SUV
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 瘫痪的尼哥正试图帮助路虎男缓减紧张气氛的时候,被路虎男 高速撞击了 : Gloria Allred:tells reporters that Mr. Mieses was trying to help the driver : of the SUV diffuse the situation, when he was run over. : 我靠, 这律师太强悍了, 如此颠倒黑白啊, 这律师盯上了路虎男的豪宅和钱包了 : http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20820832-gloria-allr : The motorcycle rider whose spine was crushed when he was run over by an SUV : fleeing an angry swarm of bikers is an "innocent victim" who was trying to : calm the confrontation, his high-profile attorney said Friday. : At a Manhattan news conference, Gloria Allred said Edwin "Jay" Mieses, 32, : had his back to the Range Rover and was trying to get fellow bikers to walk
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l********g 发帖数: 6760 | 97 裤子上不是尿,是民权律师的淫水。。。
【在 S***J 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 律师一出来你们就吓尿了,就他妈这么点出息,唉!
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T*********I 发帖数: 10729 | 98 操他妈的律师。
如果这样的逻辑能够成立,那可不可以说路虎是正试图通过离开缓减紧张气氛,尽管在
瘫痪的尼哥挡道的情况下。
driver
SUV
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 瘫痪的尼哥正试图帮助路虎男缓减紧张气氛的时候,被路虎男 高速撞击了 : Gloria Allred:tells reporters that Mr. Mieses was trying to help the driver : of the SUV diffuse the situation, when he was run over. : 我靠, 这律师太强悍了, 如此颠倒黑白啊, 这律师盯上了路虎男的豪宅和钱包了 : http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20820832-gloria-allr : The motorcycle rider whose spine was crushed when he was run over by an SUV : fleeing an angry swarm of bikers is an "innocent victim" who was trying to : calm the confrontation, his high-profile attorney said Friday. : At a Manhattan news conference, Gloria Allred said Edwin "Jay" Mieses, 32, : had his back to the Range Rover and was trying to get fellow bikers to walk
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p*********y 发帖数: 2741 | |
k*******n 发帖数: 5546 | |
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y******3 发帖数: 116 | 101 双方都是受害者路虎男可能还是得赔,因为肇事者没钱。就应该咬定他们都是一伙的,
分工合作围攻路虎。这个不是弱智都相信。
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 路虎一家的策略应该坚决不与伤者为敌。应该始终表示同情,同时继续指责肇事者和組 : 織者,在法庭上提出雙方都是受害者。
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b******o 发帖数: 409 | 102 我cao, 弄不好还真得出点血。他妈的。律师能生生地把泥哥分离出来。如果没直接证
据还真不容易打这个狗屁官司。S
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这种案子基本都会上jury了, 她也就是那么一说, 要看jury信不信了。 : 不过这官司扯皮不知道得扯多少年。 : 看上下文的意思, 她在寻求settle. : : hit, : SUV, : nothing
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e*g 发帖数: 4981 | 103 其实你们仔细想想吧。那么多人就这个人被压了,说明他很有可能没注意到SUV启动,
而且很可能是背对SUV。从视频看SUV开出一段距离后从一个bump上碾了过去,如果那个
就是伤者,那说明他和SUV之间有一定距离,除非他sb到想冲过去把SUV拦下来。这种大
律师事先做的研究肯定只会更详尽。 |
b******o 发帖数: 409 | 104 就怕被律师隔离因果关系成功。感觉路虎男得出点血。这律师辩护角度牛。把泥哥说成
是劝架的。如果帮小李将军辩护还真能脱罪。
【在 r*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这条新闻后面跟了200多条评论,95%是痛骂bitch律师,支持suv driver. 很多人说话 : 有理有力又没脏话,老中同学要学习.也有几个一上来就骂chink的渣子
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b******o 发帖数: 409 | 105 你这是意气用事。路虎真得小心应付。
【在 T*********I 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 操他妈的律师。 : 如果这样的逻辑能够成立,那可不可以说路虎是正试图通过离开缓减紧张气氛,尽管在 : 瘫痪的尼哥挡道的情况下。 : : driver : SUV
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T**********1 发帖数: 2406 | 106 Yes.
And the biker has the burden to prove that he intended to help and the biker
also has the burdern to prove that Lien believed the biker was not
intending any harm. I would say that is a pretty tall order.
In addition, Lien can sue all the bikers, including the paralysed biker for
the damage done to Lien and his family, and damage to the paralyzed biker,
including mental suffering. If the bikers have insurance or any kind of
assets, Lien will be rich.
It will be a big counter suit. Many parties.
【在 b********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 民事法庭有jury吗
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m******x 发帖数: 918 | 107 这个Lien只需证言记得瘫子下车参与阻拦即可。在这种形势下,Lien的证词肯定比对方
可信。
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t*******e 发帖数: 1633 | 108 这个Lien要是被老黑起诉我捐一个礼拜工资给Lien打官司,不能让那些傻逼老黑认为对
亚裔犯罪旱涝保守,被亚裔自卫了还能捞一笔 |
t******u 发帖数: 876 | 109 这个绝对支持
免得老黑以后真的有这个印象,打了亚裔还能捞一票。
此时此刻帮连同学,就是帮以后的自己和孩子们。
【在 t*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个Lien要是被老黑起诉我捐一个礼拜工资给Lien打官司,不能让那些傻逼老黑认为对 : 亚裔犯罪旱涝保守,被亚裔自卫了还能捞一笔
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a**********2 发帖数: 3726 | 110 This kind of human being is totally garbage to the society!
【在 t*c 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Mises老婆还说他不是thugs. : 一个有十几个ticket, 被禁止驾驶到2017年,从来不拥有摩托车执照的人, : 在路上骑着无证摩托车飙车,还不是thug吗。 : 黑人和律师都喜欢说谎,说瞎话不眨眼。 : : driver : SUV
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a**********2 发帖数: 3726 | 111 Lo, shame on his family and this bitchy lawyer!
that
to
【在 s*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : no need to settle... no reasonable jury will believe her bullshit. : At first, that biker's bitchy wife claimed that he just wanted to help that : jerk Cruz, now his shameless attorney claimed that he wanted to defuse for : the SUV driver... what next? His honorable mother says that he intended to : save the world? Then his saint father might say he could have saved the : universe.
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a**********2 发帖数: 3726 | 112 Another scandal of a pastor and his family and the whole shamelessness!
away
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【在 s*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : of course it matters. : In my opinion, that biker purposely blocked Lien's vehicle from getting away : . He thought Lien wouldn't flee since he was in front of Lien's SUV, but : his stupid idea failed him. : Lien should sue him for false imprisonment, aiding and abetting on assault, : accomplice of attempted murder. : Besides, that pastor father is so pathetic. -- I don't hate lien, but he : will have to face what he did. My ass. As a pastor, can't he show the : minimum amount of shame for himself? How does he preach in his church? He : can't even bring up his own son in a decent way. His whole family is sick.
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d****a 发帖数: 193 | 113 先买个摩托,在去。。。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
【在 S*******T 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我要是路虎男,钱留给老婆孩子,命也不要了,直接找上门杀这律师全家 : 太他妈没有底线了! : : driver : SUV
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k******a 发帖数: 169 | 114 那个女的根本不是lawful老婆,CNN说是 long time partner。黑人住一起不结婚,是
为了骗政府福利。那一群bikers的税都没有一个Lien缴的多.说不定Lien缴的税就养着
他们非婚的小孩,他们把钱拿来买bike.
【在 t*c 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Mises老婆还说他不是thugs. : 一个有十几个ticket, 被禁止驾驶到2017年,从来不拥有摩托车执照的人, : 在路上骑着无证摩托车飙车,还不是thug吗。 : 黑人和律师都喜欢说谎,说瞎话不眨眼。 : : driver : SUV
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a*********a 发帖数: 3656 | 115 连这样身价的,因该有几个米粒的personal liability保险。否则太大意了。
如果有的话,对方讨价还价或上庭,都得面对连的保险公司。保险公司的律师应该也不
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l********g 发帖数: 6760 | 116 体现了左逼当政的无比优越性!
【在 k******a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那个女的根本不是lawful老婆,CNN说是 long time partner。黑人住一起不结婚,是 : 为了骗政府福利。那一群bikers的税都没有一个Lien缴的多.说不定Lien缴的税就养着 : 他们非婚的小孩,他们把钱拿来买bike.
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