q*******n
发帖数: 20306 | 1 被收银员黑了约7元，我把这帖子也贴过来，我想把这7元拿回来又没有可能？
我往那个超市的网页写了封投诉信：
I suspected a cashier hid my money.
This happened 10/20/13 10:45 – 11:00 a.m. at check-out station #17 at 2515
Erie Blvd Pricechopper store. The cashier is a white guy appears to be in
his early 20s with glasses.
I went to sell bottles in 10/20 morning in the bottle room and got slips to
go to cashers for refund. I didn’t count the total number of slips or the
total amount of money on the slips, but I remember one single largest slip
is above $5, and with a total about 7-10 slips. The cashier refunded me $4.
70, which surprised me.
I recall and almost exclude the possibility of losing any slip before I get
to the cashier station 17. The cashier watched how I took my slips out of
my pocket of pants and roughly arranged them before I handed them over to
him, based on which he might knew I didn’t know the total number of slips
or amount because I wasn’t prepared.
One detail I suspected the casher is that he mostly passed one slip once
and
made one entry once into the register machine. However at one point I
noticed he quickly passed two slips and made one entry to the machine, and
the amount he entered to the machine is 0.10 dollar shown on the screen.
Though passing two slips and mind calculating a total number, and then
entering a sum to the machine appeared to be normal, it is strange in this
case because none of my slips is below 0.10 dollar, and there is no such a
sum of two slips as ten cents. This detail suggests the cashier might hide
one slip. I noticed this detail at the time while I waited there, with
doubt why he passed two slips but entered a sum $0.10.
About 10 minutes later after I checked out at the #17 station, at about 11:
00, I went to customer service desk to tell my concern how I could not
understand how one of my slips with the biggest amount disappeared. Three
staff ladies were at the desk. One lady went to checkout station 17 to get
all the bottle slips and show them to me. All about ten my slips are there,
and the lady said one of the slip with $7.15 is not mine, and all the rest
are mine, and there is no question that the total of those slips are $4.70.
The #17 cashier told the lady retrieving the slips that all the dozen slips
are mine except one slip with amount $7.15 belong to another customer. The
$7.15 slip is probably not mine, but there are questions: it is very rare
that a customer walks to cashier to get refund with one single big bottle
slip, because people who use reverse vending machines to sell bottles
usually have multiple slips especially when amount is big. This is because
they usually have different cans and plastic bottles and have to use more
than one machine more than once. And the $7.15 slip looks questionable to
me
because it looks similar to all my slips: it is dirty and was folded. When
I used reverse vending machines in the bottle room, I grabbed the slips
with my left hand and inserted them into my left pocket of my pants, and
this is why those my slips are mostly folded and a little dirty.
The $7.15 slip might not be mine, but you may need to explain how another
customer walked up to #17 station around the time I was there with one
single $7.15 slip, and the slip was folded and dirty as mine. Can the
register machine record and video record show that there was actually such
another customer doing such a transaction at the time?
My biggest doubt is how the cahier passed two slips but made a $0.10 entry,
while the smallest slip of my slips is $0.10. I tell this here in writing
but didn’t mention this detail when I talked to the ladies at customer
service desk today. I will appreciate response. | p**********n
发帖数: 750 | 2 老邱英文不错，这么点事叽歪这么长
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【在 q*******n 的大作中提到】
: 被收银员黑了约7元，我把这帖子也贴过来，我想把这7元拿回来又没有可能？
: 我往那个超市的网页写了封投诉信：
: I suspected a cashier hid my money.
: This happened 10/20/13 10:45 – 11:00 a.m. at check-out station #17 at 2515
: Erie Blvd Pricechopper store. The cashier is a white guy appears to be in
: his early 20s with glasses.
: I went to sell bottles in 10/20 morning in the bottle room and got slips to
: go to cashers for refund. I didn’t count the total number of slips or the
: total amount of money on the slips, but I remember one single largest slip
: is above $5, and with a total about 7-10 slips. The cashier refunded me $4.
| q*******n
发帖数: 20306 | 3 我已经不怎么会写英文了， 几年前我写英文比中文顺手，这几年每年回国两次几个月
， 在美国又整天上中文网，和中国人说普通话， 英语说写已经很费劲。
【在 p**********n 的大作中提到】
: 老邱英文不错，这么点事叽歪这么长
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发帖数: 3241 | | e******t
发帖数: 3289 | | q*******n
发帖数: 20306 | 6 我在美国这几年零零星星捡瓶子卖， 大约卖得不到２０００美元吧，想把瓶子换成现
金， 到处被宰， 我也多次就被宰经历写过贴子。 美国人的犯罪倾向很强，无孔不入
，防线哪里有个小漏洞，几乎立即就被宰。 | d***o
发帖数: 7006 | | m**l
发帖数: 11854 | 8 这不是去年的事么？你怎么改了改又贴出来了？
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【在 q*******n 的大作中提到】
: 被收银员黑了约7元，我把这帖子也贴过来，我想把这7元拿回来又没有可能？
: 我往那个超市的网页写了封投诉信：
: I suspected a cashier hid my money.
: This happened 10/20/13 10:45 – 11:00 a.m. at check-out station #17 at 2515
: Erie Blvd Pricechopper store. The cashier is a white guy appears to be in
: his early 20s with glasses.
: I went to sell bottles in 10/20 morning in the bottle room and got slips to
: go to cashers for refund. I didn’t count the total number of slips or the
: total amount of money on the slips, but I remember one single largest slip
: is above $5, and with a total about 7-10 slips. The cashier refunded me $4.
| q*******n
发帖数: 20306 | 9 我想把这事往洋人论坛上捅，刚才在一个超级冷的小论坛里发了帖子，原文如下。 谁
知道哪个洋人论坛比较热门，告诉我，我把这事帖上去。
How bottle money become focus of crime?
During recent years I sold a total about $1500 5-cent bottles in Syracuse,
and it impresses me how each store where I sold bottles stole my bottle
money. Again, yesterday I got a bottle money issue with a Pricechopper
cashier, and for the first time I made complain to the customer service desk
. While I have little confidence on whether the store will give me back the
money (probably $7), I would like to open a discussion on stealing people’
s bottle money because of its popularity on American soil. | q*******n
发帖数: 20306 | | | | q*******n
发帖数: 20306 | 11 今天我收到了Pricechopper的电邮，类似于自动回复，说已经在研究我的投诉。
我回了封信作进一步说明，如下：
Ok, thanks,
I would like to add some words here that may be good for your investigation:
The time frame such as “10:45 – 11:00 am” in the description letter I
sent yesterday is not exact time, it could vary as 10:30 -11:00 am. But the
things I described in the letter is exact.
Also, the cashier didn’t issued me a receipt yesterday morning when I get
refund of $4.70, though I didn’t ask him for a receipt either. And I didn
’t take note his name.
I have been feeling sick about bottle money being stolen by cashiers these
years, and I know a few “professional” homeless bottlemen in Syracuse, and
they have tons of negative experience about bottle money being “robbed”
by bottle-return centers or cashiers of supermarkets with bottle-return
service. Those cashiers involved in stealing bottle slips appear to be very
experienced that they know all the key points about how to hide slips before
customers’ watching eyes, and it’s not known how many times and how much
bottle money they steal every year.
I am quite sure this time this cashier’s suspicion in refunding the bottle
slips, though I didn’t catch him at the scene. I do prove my witness that
at the 3rd or 4th data entry, he passed two slips at a time and made an
entry of $0.10 to the register machine, while my smallest slip is $0.10, and
there is no such a sum of $0.10 for any two slips. Simply skipping slips
is not a problem in your store because cashiers can add several slips
together and enter a sum to the machine.
About ten minutes later when I talked to ladies on customer service desk, a
lady retrieved all the slips from #17 checkout station that I had question
and said one slip with a value of $7.15 is not mine but all the rest about
ten slips are all mine with a total of $4.70. That $7.15 slip is probably
not mine, because I didn’t pay attention to the exact values of my slips,
and it makes more sense for a cashier to hide a slip longer for redemption
later if it is illegally taken. The $7.15 slip looks familiar to me simply
because I remember I had one slip with value above $5 from the can machine,
and it is dirty and being wrapped as all my slips because when I used the
reverse vending machines I grabbed each slip and inserted it into my pants
pocket. Also, I sell bottles often and know roughly total value of bottles I
transport to the store. Yesterday morning the total value of bottles I
sold in Pricechopper if it were $12, would make more sense to me than $4.70
because I knew roughly how much I brought in. Though I have no way to prove
the cashier skipped a $7.15 slip that was mine, if Pricechopper could offer
me the $7 in any way for any reason, I will greatly appreciate. | q*******n
发帖数: 20306 | 12 这Pricechopper处理我的投诉的方式还是蛮好笑的，我周一写给他们网页上的投诉信，
提到想要7元，周二该店的客服女就打电话给我，说不知道他们是不是把东西放错了还
是怎么，问我她欠我多少钱， 让我开个价给我钱，我说只要给五美元就可以了，她同
意， 叫我随时去客服台去取。
这事给我感觉他们并没有调查，直接给我钱把我打发了。
我把原来要的7元降为5元，是考虑我有可能冤枉了那个收银员，而我周日去卖的瓶子，
我自己估算，比较可能是价值8-10元的瓶子，可能不到12元， 那张7.15元的收据有可
能是别人的，因为直接加到我的4.70元上就偏多了。
那天卖瓶子时，我是先卖掉所有的玻璃瓶，再卖掉大部分塑料瓶，才开始卖铝罐，而由
于只有一台铝罐机器，后面又有人排队，所以我记得是一口气连续的把所有铝罐都卖掉
，我一边往机器里放罐子，时而看一眼屏幕上显示的金额，记得是我在一元左右时看过
一眼，两元多时看过一眼，好像四元多时也看过一眼，并且继续又塞了不少瓶瓶子直到
结束，最后做完了我按机器的按钮取收据，看到收据上好像是1.35元，这也许就是我给
收银员的收据里为什么最大的只有1.35元， 当时我愣了几秒，因为我卖铝罐时已经脑
子里有了很明确的印象这张收据是高于五元的，怎么最后打印出来的收据是1.35元，我
觉得是不是机器坏了钱被机器吞没了，心里有疑惑和怒火，但也没怎么追究就去敲管理
员的门找管理员人工收掉我剩余的4个机器不收的瓶子得到两张0.10元的手工打印的收
据， 然后去找收银员兑现金，因为急于离开，没有像我以前一样先自己点好总数再兑
换。 如果我的记忆没有错，那天是铝罐机器坏了，屏幕上显示金额已经在五元以上，
打印的收据却是1.35元，那么收银员就是冤枉的， 收银员过了两张收据只输入0.10元
这个细节我没记错但可以做其它解释。 但这种自动收瓶子机器，是否会出这样奇怪的
故障，也难理解。 解决这个疑问的方法是让我查看一下瓶子回收间的监控录像记录，
可以从录像回放中看到我当时往铝罐机里一个个地塞了多少个瓶子， 以及为什么机器
最后打印给我的是1.35元的收据。 但这次超市已经不和我计较直接给我钱，我就没办
法在过问了，而且监控录像一般在一间秘密的保安呆的监控室， 监控室一般是不让人
进的，连商店的非资深员工也不让进，所以监控录像记录一般不许查。 | k*******g
发帖数: 7321 | 13 上youtube, 给瓶子拍照，图文并貌，比较容易引起反响！
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【在 q*******n 的大作中提到】
: 我想把这事往洋人论坛上捅，刚才在一个超级冷的小论坛里发了帖子，原文如下。 谁
: 知道哪个洋人论坛比较热门，告诉我，我把这事帖上去。
: How bottle money become focus of crime?
: During recent years I sold a total about $1500 5-cent bottles in Syracuse,
: and it impresses me how each store where I sold bottles stole my bottle
: money. Again, yesterday I got a bottle money issue with a Pricechopper
: cashier, and for the first time I made complain to the customer service desk
: . While I have little confidence on whether the store will give me back the
: money (probably $7), I would like to open a discussion on stealing people’
: s bottle money because of its popularity on American soil.
| q*******n
发帖数: 20306 | 14 把一件小事搞清楚也不容易啊， 像我这个瓶子小案， 我是当事人， 又是相对一般人
脑子更清楚的人， 我都觉得一团迷雾拿不准， 要搞清整个事情的原委， 只能调阅超
市的录像和收银机的记录。
人的记忆模糊而且反应慢。
大前年我在南宁街边从炒栗子的小贩（一个中年妇女）问好价后买三元栗子， 她称了
栗子交个我， 我掏十元给她， 她找我两元。 我惊讶地问， 我刚才不是给你十元吗？
你怎么只找给我两元？ | d**********i
发帖数: 4877 | 15 怎么又卖瓶子去了？
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【在 q*******n 的大作中提到】
: 被收银员黑了约7元，我把这帖子也贴过来，我想把这7元拿回来又没有可能？
: 我往那个超市的网页写了封投诉信：
: I suspected a cashier hid my money.
: This happened 10/20/13 10:45 – 11:00 a.m. at check-out station #17 at 2515
: Erie Blvd Pricechopper store. The cashier is a white guy appears to be in
: his early 20s with glasses.
: I went to sell bottles in 10/20 morning in the bottle room and got slips to
: go to cashers for refund. I didn’t count the total number of slips or the
: total amount of money on the slips, but I remember one single largest slip
: is above $5, and with a total about 7-10 slips. The cashier refunded me $4.
| p*****c
发帖数: 20445 | 16 老邱和虾哥风格很像，是不是就是一个人？虽然自称一个在雪城，一个在弗吉尼亚？ | q*******n
发帖数: 20306 | 17 人的记忆模糊而且反应慢。
大前年我在南宁街边从炒栗子的小贩（一个中年妇女）问好价后买三元栗子， 她称了
栗子交个我， 我掏十元给她， 她找我两元。 我惊讶地问， 我刚才不是给你十元吗？
你怎么只找给我两元？
妇女从钱包里掏出一张五元钞票， 说你刚才给我的是这张五元啊， 就应该找你两元啊
。 把我弄的一楞， 一时脑子里一片迷雾，不知道自己是不是记错了。 过了十分钟，
经过慢慢回忆，才逐渐比较肯定自己刚才给的确实是十元， 被那个妇女当猴耍。 | q*******n
发帖数: 20306 | 18 今天去Pricechopper 卖瓶子，得14.05元，按我粗略估计这次的运载量比上次多约2元
。也就是说，上次我卖的瓶子粗略为12元，也就是说，我投诉后客服女取得的约十张收
据中那张收银员声称的是另一个顾客的7.15元收据很可能是我的， 因为把它加上收银
员给我的4.70元刚好是12元左右。
那个收银员可能已经被开除了，商场管理员可能根据我投诉提供的细节，查阅监控录像
记录和收银机记录，证实了那个20岁出头戴着眼镜的白男收银员偷了我的钱。
这个事件蛮有意思的，我根据模糊的回忆投诉获胜，当然我当时怕冤枉收银员，主动把
索赔从7元降至5元， 导致我损失了2.15元。 人的记忆是不清楚的，要查阅录像和机器
记录才能证实。 这个收银员这次宰我翻了船，不过如果他宰的是一般的美国人， 美国
华人， 或者中国留学生，一般这些人都是混混噩噩糊糊涂涂的， 都会像杀猪一样宰，
也就是碰到像我这样的脑子相对清楚的人才被我撬翻了船。 你们不是猪谁是猪？不宰
你们宰谁？我只是比一般人稍微好一点而已， 我也被宰过很多次， 这次是我第一次因
为卖瓶子被宰投诉并获胜。
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【在 q*******n 的大作中提到】
: 被收银员黑了约7元，我把这帖子也贴过来，我想把这7元拿回来又没有可能？
: 我往那个超市的网页写了封投诉信：
: I suspected a cashier hid my money.
: This happened 10/20/13 10:45 – 11:00 a.m. at check-out station #17 at 2515
: Erie Blvd Pricechopper store. The cashier is a white guy appears to be in
: his early 20s with glasses.
: I went to sell bottles in 10/20 morning in the bottle room and got slips to
: go to cashers for refund. I didn’t count the total number of slips or the
: total amount of money on the slips, but I remember one single largest slip
: is above $5, and with a total about 7-10 slips. The cashier refunded me $4.
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