T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 1 JFK因为背伤二战被免除兵役,但他走老爸的关系加入海军,夜里鱼雷艇被日舰撞沉带
领船员携带伤员游到岛上获救。后来一直对大众瞒着背疾,以阳光面貌出现。
It is interesting that JFK was celebrated as the first modern president, the
first truly hip president, and yet the parts of him we celebrate most are
actually the old virtues. He lied to get into the military, not to get out
of it. He was sick, claimed to be well, and served as a naval officer in the
war. In the postwar years he was in fairly constant physical pain, but he
got up every day and did his demanding jobs. He played hurt. He was from a
big, seemingly close family and seemed very much the family man himself.
What we liked most about him wasn’t hip.
And he was contained. He operated within his own physical space and was not
florid or mawkish or creepily domineering in his physical aspect.
。。。。。。
If they had to imitate anything I wish it was how distanced, ironic and
modest JFK was in the physical sphere. He didn’t hug the other pols on the
platform, he didn’t give a big man-hug to the others on the dais, he didn’
t kiss everyone and point at the audience and give them a thumbs-up. He didn
’t act, he just was. Like a grownup. Like a person with dignity. Like a
person with public boundaries who is an actor but not a phony.
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b****l 发帖数: 23606 | 2 真的假的?不是又是金日成手枪打飞机似的故事吧
the
the
not
the
didn
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】 : JFK因为背伤二战被免除兵役,但他走老爸的关系加入海军,夜里鱼雷艇被日舰撞沉带 : 领船员携带伤员游到岛上获救。后来一直对大众瞒着背疾,以阳光面貌出现。 : It is interesting that JFK was celebrated as the first modern president, the : first truly hip president, and yet the parts of him we celebrate most are : actually the old virtues. He lied to get into the military, not to get out : of it. He was sick, claimed to be well, and served as a naval officer in the : war. In the postwar years he was in fairly constant physical pain, but he : got up every day and did his demanding jobs. He played hurt. He was from a : big, seemingly close family and seemed very much the family man himself. : What we liked most about him wasn’t hip.
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T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 3
JFK英模是真的,竟然沉船落水后飘着组织幸存者民主投票投降还是坚持。
In September 1941, after medical disqualification by the Army for his
chronic lower back problems, Kennedy joined the U.S. Navy, with the
influence of the director of the Office of Naval Intelligence, former naval
attaché to Joseph Kennedy.[19] Kennedy was an ensign serving in the office
of the Secretary of the Navy when the attack on Pearl Harbor occurred. He
attended the Naval Reserve Officer Training Corps and then voluntarily
entered the Motor Torpedo Boat Squadron Training Center in Melville, Rhode
Island. Thereafter, he was assigned duty in Panama and later in the Pacific
theater, where Kennedy earned the rank of lieutenant, commanding a patrol
torpedo (PT) boat.[20]
Kennedy on his navy patrol boat, the PT-109.
On August 2, 1943, Kennedy's boat, PT-109, along with PT-162 and PT-169,
were performing nighttime patrols near New Georgia in the Solomon Islands,[
21] when PT-109 was rammed by the Japanese destroyer Amagiri.[22] Kennedy
gathered his surviving crew members together in the water around the
wreckage, to vote on whether to "fight or surrender". Kennedy stated, "There
's nothing in the book about a situation like this. A lot of you men have
families and some of you have children. What do you want to do? I have
nothing to lose." Shunning surrender, the men swam towards a small island.[
23]
Kennedy, despite re-injury to his back in the collision, towed a badly
burned crewman through the water with a life jacket strap clenched between
his teeth.[24] He towed the wounded man to the island, and later to a second
island, from where his crew was subsequently rescued.
【在 b****l 的大作中提到】 : 真的假的?不是又是金日成手枪打飞机似的故事吧 : : the : the : not : the : didn
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S*******T 发帖数: 5156 | 4 这倒不是,米帝前面好几任大统领还是真刀真枪上过战场的。JFK是鱼雷艇长,老布什
是海军飞行员。所以后来克林顿和小布什被人说逃避兵役。04年的Kerry和08年的麦凯
恩都参加过越战,Kerry有紫心勋章,麦凯恩更是蹲过河内的战俘营。可惜米国社会整
个堕落了,选出小布什这样的二世祖和奥巴这样的混混。天朝真是上天庇佑啊。米帝的
funding fathers们忘了在宪法里加一条,只有退伍军人才能担任公职。。。。。。。
【在 b****l 的大作中提到】 : 真的假的?不是又是金日成手枪打飞机似的故事吧 : : the : the : not : the : didn
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n*****8 发帖数: 19630 | 5 我觉得主要是潜规则梦露,深受wsn们羡慕。
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2000年后选举全靠marketing和造势,Kerry的紫心被小树丛的人贬的一文不值,说攒三
个紫心就能回国退伍,Kerry手指的破了也报个战伤紫心,好像Kerry去越南就是为了混
战伤一样。相对W混国民警卫队和cheney连报多年疾病免兵役,这些明显荒谬的宣传把
Kerry活活塑造成政治偷鸡分子。
到巴马这里更不用说了,yes we can。
【在 S*******T 的大作中提到】 : 这倒不是,米帝前面好几任大统领还是真刀真枪上过战场的。JFK是鱼雷艇长,老布什 : 是海军飞行员。所以后来克林顿和小布什被人说逃避兵役。04年的Kerry和08年的麦凯 : 恩都参加过越战,Kerry有紫心勋章,麦凯恩更是蹲过河内的战俘营。可惜米国社会整 : 个堕落了,选出小布什这样的二世祖和奥巴这样的混混。天朝真是上天庇佑啊。米帝的 : funding fathers们忘了在宪法里加一条,只有退伍军人才能担任公职。。。。。。。
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L*******r 发帖数: 8961 | 7 小布什是退伍军人。
【在 S*******T 的大作中提到】 : 这倒不是,米帝前面好几任大统领还是真刀真枪上过战场的。JFK是鱼雷艇长,老布什 : 是海军飞行员。所以后来克林顿和小布什被人说逃避兵役。04年的Kerry和08年的麦凯 : 恩都参加过越战,Kerry有紫心勋章,麦凯恩更是蹲过河内的战俘营。可惜米国社会整 : 个堕落了,选出小布什这样的二世祖和奥巴这样的混混。天朝真是上天庇佑啊。米帝的 : funding fathers们忘了在宪法里加一条,只有退伍军人才能担任公职。。。。。。。
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d******a 发帖数: 32122 | 8 Kerry反战游行时带头把勋章扔了。不过他的勋章后来挂在他办公室里,估计当时扔掉
的是假的,那些听了他的话扔掉自己真勋章的被柴玲了。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】 : : 2000年后选举全靠marketing和造势,Kerry的紫心被小树丛的人贬的一文不值,说攒三 : 个紫心就能回国退伍,Kerry手指的破了也报个战伤紫心,好像Kerry去越南就是为了混 : 战伤一样。相对W混国民警卫队和cheney连报多年疾病免兵役,这些明显荒谬的宣传把 : Kerry活活塑造成政治偷鸡分子。 : 到巴马这里更不用说了,yes we can。
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O*******d 发帖数: 20343 | 9 美国的狂热选民跟中国文革中的革命群众一样,见到领袖,感动的眼泪鼻涕一把一把的
。 我看到电视上的美国选民给政客欢呼鼓掌,就想起了中国文革。 所不同的是,中国
文革只有一次,中国的人们再也不相信搞政治的了。 而美国文革四年一次, 美国的人
们自愿一次一次上当。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】 : : 2000年后选举全靠marketing和造势,Kerry的紫心被小树丛的人贬的一文不值,说攒三 : 个紫心就能回国退伍,Kerry手指的破了也报个战伤紫心,好像Kerry去越南就是为了混 : 战伤一样。相对W混国民警卫队和cheney连报多年疾病免兵役,这些明显荒谬的宣传把 : Kerry活活塑造成政治偷鸡分子。 : 到巴马这里更不用说了,yes we can。
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T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 10
JFK像国王一样临幸各种女人,包括前阵曝光的Ellen Rometsch德国使馆家属据说东德
间谍在DC当应召,都对JFK名声无损。哪像clinton办公室刚摸个胸就被告到电视上。
【在 n*****8 的大作中提到】 : 我觉得主要是潜规则梦露,深受wsn们羡慕。 : :)
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T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 11
Kerry回国后以反战活动出名,到选总统突然宣传英模,w的人抓住这点猛搞。说实在,
Kerry这人有时太逢场,政治风范欠佳。
【在 d******a 的大作中提到】 : Kerry反战游行时带头把勋章扔了。不过他的勋章后来挂在他办公室里,估计当时扔掉 : 的是假的,那些听了他的话扔掉自己真勋章的被柴玲了。
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T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 12
各国历史发展都是有轮回的,中国人从清末开始一直搞内斗到改开和64后才统一认识转
移注意力。美国也会经历思想混乱的过程,现在搞种族政治是对以前种族歧视历史的反
动和纠正过度,像tw前十几年的族群政治是对以前本省人受压迫的反扑一样。
【在 O*******d 的大作中提到】 : 美国的狂热选民跟中国文革中的革命群众一样,见到领袖,感动的眼泪鼻涕一把一把的 : 。 我看到电视上的美国选民给政客欢呼鼓掌,就想起了中国文革。 所不同的是,中国 : 文革只有一次,中国的人们再也不相信搞政治的了。 而美国文革四年一次, 美国的人 : 们自愿一次一次上当。
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C***a 发帖数: 1228 | 13 什么犬儒思想,
没有肯尼迪搞政治,林登约翰逊不签署民权法案取消移民配额歧视,现在华人每年的美
国绿卡配额还是几十个,
[发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com]
【在 O*******d 的大作中提到】 : 美国的狂热选民跟中国文革中的革命群众一样,见到领袖,感动的眼泪鼻涕一把一把的 : 。 我看到电视上的美国选民给政客欢呼鼓掌,就想起了中国文革。 所不同的是,中国 : 文革只有一次,中国的人们再也不相信搞政治的了。 而美国文革四年一次, 美国的人 : 们自愿一次一次上当。
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d******a 发帖数: 32122 | 14 华人的绿卡是因为美国教育太差,缺人,跟民权法案有个屁的关系
当然了,美国教育差,也是从肯尼迪约翰逊开始的。所以还是应该感谢这两个人
【在 C***a 的大作中提到】 : 什么犬儒思想, : 没有肯尼迪搞政治,林登约翰逊不签署民权法案取消移民配额歧视,现在华人每年的美 : 国绿卡配额还是几十个, : : [发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com]
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C***a 发帖数: 1228 | 15 历史学习课。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of
Immigration(bill 1965) changed America's demographics, opening the doors to
immigrants
from Asia, Africa, and the Middle East.
[发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com] |
t*****9 发帖数: 10416 | 16 什么叫“背伤”, Brokeback Mountain? |
f*******n 发帖数: 2665 | 17 肯尼迪和他老婆的确有很多让人着迷的因素,但要让人们永远的迷恋有一点是必须的:
在你的形象仍处于巅峰期时突然死掉,肯尼迪做到了。当然有关他的很多档案至今未解
密,希望中国的公知帮助呼吁一下。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】 : JFK因为背伤二战被免除兵役,但他走老爸的关系加入海军,夜里鱼雷艇被日舰撞沉带 : 领船员携带伤员游到岛上获救。后来一直对大众瞒着背疾,以阳光面貌出现。 : It is interesting that JFK was celebrated as the first modern president, the : first truly hip president, and yet the parts of him we celebrate most are : actually the old virtues. He lied to get into the military, not to get out : of it. He was sick, claimed to be well, and served as a naval officer in the : war. In the postwar years he was in fairly constant physical pain, but he : got up every day and did his demanding jobs. He played hurt. He was from a : big, seemingly close family and seemed very much the family man himself. : What we liked most about him wasn’t hip.
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r********9 发帖数: 18394 | 18 文革只有一次? 柚子
【在 O*******d 的大作中提到】 : 美国的狂热选民跟中国文革中的革命群众一样,见到领袖,感动的眼泪鼻涕一把一把的 : 。 我看到电视上的美国选民给政客欢呼鼓掌,就想起了中国文革。 所不同的是,中国 : 文革只有一次,中国的人们再也不相信搞政治的了。 而美国文革四年一次, 美国的人 : 们自愿一次一次上当。
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T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 19
JFK从小就常住院,估计是免疫系统性问题又内分泌严重失调。 鱼雷艇沉没把腰砸坏了
,退伍后好像做了脊椎手术。从政后基本是个药罐子,每天这疼那疼,据说一直戴着腰
支架,刺杀脖子中一枪后还能直挺挺坐着。这都没妨碍他扮演阳光青年,御女无数。
【在 t*****9 的大作中提到】 : 什么叫“背伤”, Brokeback Mountain?
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T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 20
死的也绝,彩色胶片拍下爆头,凶手马上被杀,凶手的凶手也很快死在狱里。
【在 f*******n 的大作中提到】 : 肯尼迪和他老婆的确有很多让人着迷的因素,但要让人们永远的迷恋有一点是必须的: : 在你的形象仍处于巅峰期时突然死掉,肯尼迪做到了。当然有关他的很多档案至今未解 : 密,希望中国的公知帮助呼吁一下。
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O****X 发帖数: 24292 | 21 纯属扯淡,神马背伤,连肏屄都没事
the
the
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】 : JFK因为背伤二战被免除兵役,但他走老爸的关系加入海军,夜里鱼雷艇被日舰撞沉带 : 领船员携带伤员游到岛上获救。后来一直对大众瞒着背疾,以阳光面貌出现。 : It is interesting that JFK was celebrated as the first modern president, the : first truly hip president, and yet the parts of him we celebrate most are : actually the old virtues. He lied to get into the military, not to get out : of it. He was sick, claimed to be well, and served as a naval officer in the : war. In the postwar years he was in fairly constant physical pain, but he : got up every day and did his demanding jobs. He played hurt. He was from a : big, seemingly close family and seemed very much the family man himself. : What we liked most about him wasn’t hip.
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T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 22
JFK被刺时候戴着背支架,医生说如果没戴支架挨了第一枪像正常人一样上身向前倒下
,第二枪应该打不到JFK不会死。
JFK Assassination: If The President Hadn't Been Wearing A Back Brace, He May
Have Survived, Doctor Says
As the nation was just beginning to reel from shock, Kennedy was rushed to
Parkland Hospital, where Dr. Kenneth Salyer, a 27-year-old resident at the
time, was on call for head trauma. Dr. Salyer, who said that the president
was still barely breathing when he arrived at the hospital, was surprised to
find that JFK was wearing a stiff back brace underneath his clothes. Salyer
believes if the president hadn't been wearing a back brace, he might have
survived the shooting.
"The first shot that hit him went through the soft tissue of the back of his
shoulder and exited through his trachea," Dr. Salyer told CBS News. "That
same bullet went through [Texas Governor] John Connally's chest, through his
right hand and into his thigh and knocked him completely down in the car."
Connally, who fell over immediately after being shot, was spared additional
bullets and survived. But Kennedy, whose back brace prevented him from
slumping over, was shot another time in the head. "He's still upright as a
target because he has the brace on, which makes it possible for Lee Harvey
Oswald to hit him with a second shot," Salyer told CBS News. "I think that
would not have happened if he had gone down like John Connally did."
http://www.medicaldaily.com/jfk-assassination-if-president-hadn
【在 O****X 的大作中提到】 : 纯属扯淡,神马背伤,连肏屄都没事 : : the : the
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T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 23 对比D党几个年轻总统,JFK打过仗肯干活又搞女人,克林顿逃兵役肯干活搞女人,巴马
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b****l 发帖数: 23606 | 24 一代不如一代,搞不好下一代女克林顿恢复搞女人的传统...
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】 : 对比D党几个年轻总统,JFK打过仗肯干活又搞女人,克林顿逃兵役肯干活搞女人,巴马 : 没兵役不干活不搞女人。
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T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 25
觉得女克没戏,历史的车轮已经把她抛在后面了。
【在 b****l 的大作中提到】 : 一代不如一代,搞不好下一代女克林顿恢复搞女人的传统...
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b****l 发帖数: 23606 | 26 女克可以用搞女人来做噱头阿,洗刷她老奶奶的耻辱。我虽然是老奶奶,可是
我的行为新潮。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】 : : 觉得女克没戏,历史的车轮已经把她抛在后面了。
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v*******e 发帖数: 11604 | 27
搞中东革命搞得一团糟,搞死一个大使;搞叙利亚之友跳来跳去现在自己不好意思跳了
,因为接受她帮助的都是911炸世贸中心的人。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】 : : 觉得女克没戏,历史的车轮已经把她抛在后面了。
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l**s 发帖数: 9490 | 28 本来就是那批人,你以为她不知道吗?
【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】 : : 搞中东革命搞得一团糟,搞死一个大使;搞叙利亚之友跳来跳去现在自己不好意思跳了 : ,因为接受她帮助的都是911炸世贸中心的人。
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v*******e 发帖数: 11604 | 29
她以为自己有本事能搞得定
【在 l**s 的大作中提到】 : 本来就是那批人,你以为她不知道吗?
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l**s 发帖数: 9490 | 30 扯淡,都是一伙的
【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】 : : 她以为自己有本事能搞得定
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T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 31
支持中东革命应该是巴马nc的既定国策,和他就任伊始开罗演讲精神一致。而且美国从
来无法控制中东草根运动。她出来认大使被杀的责任很多程度是在竞选辩论前为O8顶岗
,到底国务卿有多大权限及时获得CIA的情报再调集特种部队和空军很难说。
她的问题是没有自己的一套政治纲领,也没有像老公一样的地方执政记录,实际上政治
生存能力有限。
【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】 : : 她以为自己有本事能搞得定
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T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 32
希拉里一直想建立自己的brand,但尽管当了参议员和国务卿,还是没有形成自己的政
治纲领,所以对她的支持很多是对她老公的。美国现在面临的是国内种族构成大变,传
统社会宗教结构解体,国际经济竞争恶化,领导人需要对此有明确对策,希拉里说车轱
辘话企图讨好所有人的风格跟不上形势了。
巴马选择左边了,联合黑穆三小左变态斗地主,至少把不交联邦税的47%和变态的5%拿
到手。
【在 b****l 的大作中提到】 : 女克可以用搞女人来做噱头阿,洗刷她老奶奶的耻辱。我虽然是老奶奶,可是 : 我的行为新潮。
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