f********4 发帖数: 2883 | 1 每到7.4美国国庆,总有很多华人在网上像西班牙情郎一样热烈奔放地抒起情来:我爱
你,美国!。。。这些都算了,本来就在吃美国大户了,共上美国的产了,爱美国,就
像老鼠爱大米,本无可非议。可是却有人把美国称作自己的“新祖国”。。。这就实在
让人不好意思了,这其实是乱认亲戚。。。
我在二十几年前出国之前英文培训时就聆听过美国来的外教对我们的指教,讲解中文“
祖国”一词的英文对应词,homeland, home country, motherland,。。。意思都是指
一个人的祖裔国,期间有中国同学问道,如果我们移民到了美国成了美国人了呢,是不
是美国就是我们的祖国了?外教答道,不是,你们的祖国将永远是中国,因为中国仍然
是你们的祖裔国,ancestral country, 而美国将是你们的 country of residence or
citizenship,翻过来就是你们的国籍国或居住国。
刚才去查了一下维基,homeland 定义是:homeland (rel. country of origin and
native land) is the concept of the place (cultural geography) with which an
ethnic group holds a long history and a deep cultural association —the
country in which a particular national identity began. As a common noun, it
simply connotes the country of one's origin.
也就是,祖国指一个人的祖裔来源国家,是一个血缘民族概念,而不是一个政治概念。
我们不管有了什么样的国籍,美国,加拿大。。。只有中国才是我们的来源国家,是我
们的祖裔国,祖国。就是我们自己不愿意,别人看我们也是来源于中国的中国人,
Chinese这个词就是指China的人,我们还是中国人,只不过多了一个政治身份 - 美国
国籍,所以我们同时具有双重属性,Chinese Americans,美籍华人,既是美国籍的美
国人,也是中国来的中国人。
或许有人会说,那美国人也是欧洲来的,怎么他们就可以说美国是他们的home country
呢?其实最好是看看白人怎么样反驳这个说法的。下面这个白人的话是我在多伦多宾
顿市针对印度人的反移民传单事件的报道下面的评论抄来的:
the issue is not who came to Canada first, but which people built the nation
, and it was whites. Everyone in the world is an immigrant, should all
countries therefore open their borders? The natives came from northern
Siberia, so they were immigrants too. The issue is who created the nation of
Canada, and it was the Whites.
The historical record is obvious: European Canadians created the nation of
Canada; as of 1971, 97% of the ethnic composition of Canada was European;
all the institutions, infrastructure, religions, everything, was created by
European Canadians; therefore, they have every right to decide whether they
want to be reduced to a minority in their own homeland.
这是加拿大白人说的,但是也代表了美国白人的想法,就是说白人认为,并不是美国加
拿大先来后到的移民都一样,而是谁建立了这个国家,而这是白人,所以这是发源自白
人的国家,所有的白人都可以认同为自己的发源国,homeland,即祖国,而非白人就不
能。
要叫美国加拿大为祖国,除非你是白人,你基本上是在乱认亲戚。
美国加拿大不是祖国也罢了,我们面临的更重要的问题是,白人是否会同意他们最终会
成为美国加拿大的少数民族?用他们的话说,白人have every right to decide
whether they want to be reduced to a minority in their own homeland. 按照目
前速度来看迟早要发生的是,美国据说到2050年,白人就会成为少数民族了。
但是我绝对相信,白人是不可能接受这个结果的。因为在这样一个民主选举制度下,如
果大多数人都是非白人,白人对美国加拿大的主导权终将失去,同时失去的还有白人的
特权。这是他们绝对不会接受的。从加拿大最近两个月的两次有关印度移民和中国移民
的报道下的评论看,绝大多数评论都是极为强烈反移民的,主张白人权利的,而且写评
论的不是一般老百姓,而是社会精英,(因为其中有的ID还标明他们的身份,显示他们
都是社会的大脑阶层的。)
可以说白人已经开始形成这样的共识:他们是不会允许自己成为少数民族的。那么他们
有可能采用什么办法来抗拒这个结果呢?
目前加拿大移民政策的大改动就显示了这个倾向。美国也开始了,比如不允许中国来的
政治庇护难民回中国后再进入美国。。。比如媒体宣传说中国来的政庇难民绝大多数都
是假的,说中国留学生都是假申请。。。等等。
这些都是和平时期的政策动向。那么如果中美打起仗来了呢?那岂不是最好的机会减少
移民,维护白人大多数了呢?
这个得另开一贴说了。 | f********4 发帖数: 2883 | 2 这是我抄下来的几条白人评论:
--- arushi.mittal.7186
Kevin,
Your grandparents immigrated to Canada. So technically, you are immigrant
too. Natives are the only true Canadians.
---Kevin Brown
@arushi.mittal.7186 Actually Arushi - my great-great-great grandparents
immigrated to Canada so I am about the furthest from being an "immigrant" as
you can get!
Native's might be able to claim being more "Canadian" but their ancestors
did not build this country! Mine did!
And how about you Arushi? When did you come to Canada? Did you bring your
sick and aging parents and grandparents with you as "family class"
immigrants so that they could enjoy the free medical care and other social
benefits they did not contribute to?
I'm not going to let some "new Canadian" tell me that I am an "immigrant" or
that I am not a "true Canadian"!
--- European
@arushi.mittal.7186 Kiddo, the issue is not who came to Canada first, but
which people built the nation, and it was whites. Everyone in the world is
an immigrant, should all countries therefore open their borders? The natives
came from northern Siberia, so they were immigrants too. The issue is who
created the nation of Canada, and it was the Whites.
--- European
The historical record is obvious: European Canadians created the nation of
Canada; as of 1971, 97% of the ethnic composition of Canada was European;
all the institutions, infrastructure, religions, everything, was created by
European Canadians; therefore, they have every right to decide whether they
want to be reduced to a minority in their own homeland.
---- European
European are not immigrants, but pioneers, settlers, and nation-builders of
Canada. The aboriginals cannot be seen as the founders of the Canadian
nation since the very idea of nation-states is European; natives were living
in tribal groups; therefore it is historically false to say they were the "
First Nations". The First Nation are the Europeans. Once Canada ceases to be
European majority, it will become a typical third world nation. | m*****9 发帖数: 1597 | 3 你应该对看看中国人对加拿大和美国的评论.
很容易找,天天见.
as
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】 : 这是我抄下来的几条白人评论: : --- arushi.mittal.7186 : Kevin, : Your grandparents immigrated to Canada. So technically, you are immigrant : too. Natives are the only true Canadians. : ---Kevin Brown : @arushi.mittal.7186 Actually Arushi - my great-great-great grandparents : immigrated to Canada so I am about the furthest from being an "immigrant" as : you can get! : Native's might be able to claim being more "Canadian" but their ancestors
| H*********S 发帖数: 22772 | 4 白人这么想你没法控制,要是白人这么想你就吓死了,那你就真该死 | u*****a 发帖数: 9489 | 5 楼主貌似是赞同这种想法的
白人那么想,我们没法控制
但作为华人也这么想,那就是自恨,是给种族主义捧臭脚,没救了
【在 H*********S 的大作中提到】 : 白人这么想你没法控制,要是白人这么想你就吓死了,那你就真该死
| f********4 发帖数: 2883 | 6 但是我们现在不是在中国,而是在美加。是美国加拿大人会决定我们移民的命运,不是
中国。
【在 m*****9 的大作中提到】 : 你应该对看看中国人对加拿大和美国的评论. : 很容易找,天天见. : : as
| m*****9 发帖数: 1597 | 7 决定毛啊,有事大不了就回去。
越穷的叮当烂响,越爱在论坛瞎合计。
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】 : 但是我们现在不是在中国,而是在美加。是美国加拿大人会决定我们移民的命运,不是 : 中国。
| f********4 发帖数: 2883 | 8 早点做好精神准备不好吗。了解这些能够决定我们命运的人的想法,是一种理性的态度
。不是每个人都能够说回去就回去的,在国内有权有钱的人倒是可以。
【在 m*****9 的大作中提到】 : 决定毛啊,有事大不了就回去。 : 越穷的叮当烂响,越爱在论坛瞎合计。
| m*******e 发帖数: 335 | 9 美国这些华人是政庇难民和农村穷留学生为主,
在美国打工兴许还有口饭吃,都是些在国内混不下去的.
来去都是一贫如洗,回不去的.
【在 m*****9 的大作中提到】 : 决定毛啊,有事大不了就回去。 : 越穷的叮当烂响,越爱在论坛瞎合计。
| f********4 发帖数: 2883 | 10 我们需要清醒地认识到自己可能面临的命运。
现在加拿大已经说了,就是拿到国籍的,一旦发现拿国籍过程有造假的,也可以被取消
国籍。美国也可能发生。欲加之罪何患无辞。关键是他们不想要这么多移民了。黑人墨
人印度人很团结善于斗争他们不敢随便赶,那华人呢?岂不是最好下手的对象? |
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