g**1
发帖数: 10330 | 1 http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/16/us-usa-cyberspying-id
Russian researchers expose breakthrough U.S. spying program
BY JOSEPH MENN
SAN FRANCISCO Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:08pm EST
(Reuters) - The U.S. National Security Agency has figured out how to hide
spying software deep within hard drives made by Western Digital, Seagate,
Toshiba and other top manufacturers, giving the agency the means to
eavesdrop on the majority of the world's computers, according to cyber
researchers and former operatives. |
C***J
发帖数: 7594 | |
z**m
发帖数: 3080 | 3 日啊。
怪不得硬盘每次都只剩80%的容量了。
原来是NSA用了20%。 |
N******K
发帖数: 10202 | 4 操
【在 g**1 的大作中提到】
: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/16/us-usa-cyberspying-id
: Russian researchers expose breakthrough U.S. spying program
: BY JOSEPH MENN
: SAN FRANCISCO Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:08pm EST
: (Reuters) - The U.S. National Security Agency has figured out how to hide
: spying software deep within hard drives made by Western Digital, Seagate,
: Toshiba and other top manufacturers, giving the agency the means to
: eavesdrop on the majority of the world's computers, according to cyber
: researchers and former operatives.
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g******t
发帖数: 18158 | |
f********8
发帖数: 5601 | 6 KAO!
【在 g**1 的大作中提到】
: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/16/us-usa-cyberspying-id
: Russian researchers expose breakthrough U.S. spying program
: BY JOSEPH MENN
: SAN FRANCISCO Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:08pm EST
: (Reuters) - The U.S. National Security Agency has figured out how to hide
: spying software deep within hard drives made by Western Digital, Seagate,
: Toshiba and other top manufacturers, giving the agency the means to
: eavesdrop on the majority of the world's computers, according to cyber
: researchers and former operatives.
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y****o
发帖数: 666 | |
g******t
发帖数: 18158 | 8 咱山寨大国造硬盘应该没有什么问题吧？我早看着几个黑心硬盘厂不顺眼了，多少年都
不降价的，坏盘率稳步上升，完全跟不上内存，CPU的发展趋势 |
b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 9 我日。我帝既要当婊子又要立牌坊。
【在 g**1 的大作中提到】
: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/16/us-usa-cyberspying-id
: Russian researchers expose breakthrough U.S. spying program
: BY JOSEPH MENN
: SAN FRANCISCO Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:08pm EST
: (Reuters) - The U.S. National Security Agency has figured out how to hide
: spying software deep within hard drives made by Western Digital, Seagate,
: Toshiba and other top manufacturers, giving the agency the means to
: eavesdrop on the majority of the world's computers, according to cyber
: researchers and former operatives.
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r***e
发帖数: 2000 | 10
咱造不出硬盘的，至少国企造不出来。杭磁（中磁）引进全套设备也不行。
【在 g******t 的大作中提到】
: 咱山寨大国造硬盘应该没有什么问题吧？我早看着几个黑心硬盘厂不顺眼了，多少年都
: 不降价的，坏盘率稳步上升，完全跟不上内存，CPU的发展趋势
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m**i
发帖数: 9848 | 11 买回来重新刷个firmware就行了吧
【在 r***e 的大作中提到】
:
: 咱造不出硬盘的，至少国企造不出来。杭磁（中磁）引进全套设备也不行。
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S******8
发帖数: 24594 | |
x****u
发帖数: 12955 | 13
Not unless you wrote the firmware yourself.
【在 m**i 的大作中提到】
: 买回来重新刷个firmware就行了吧
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m**i
发帖数: 9848 | 14 对，我就这意思。
不需要掌握怎么造，就雇佣马公把firmware写出来就好了。
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
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: Not unless you wrote the firmware yourself.
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x****u
发帖数: 12955 | 15
You can't write firmware without understanding the hardware. The hardware
controller could be designed to specifically look for those codes in the
firmware. If you change the controller, then you are essentially building a
new hard drive.
【在 m**i 的大作中提到】
: 对，我就这意思。
: 不需要掌握怎么造，就雇佣马公把firmware写出来就好了。
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k*****r
发帖数: 21039 | 16 ににゃん！
まびで、みいごう、たいたまでうつ ！
【在 g**1 的大作中提到】
: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/16/us-usa-cyberspying-id
: Russian researchers expose breakthrough U.S. spying program
: BY JOSEPH MENN
: SAN FRANCISCO Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:08pm EST
: (Reuters) - The U.S. National Security Agency has figured out how to hide
: spying software deep within hard drives made by Western Digital, Seagate,
: Toshiba and other top manufacturers, giving the agency the means to
: eavesdrop on the majority of the world's computers, according to cyber
: researchers and former operatives.
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s********e
发帖数: 2783 | |
l********g
发帖数: 6760 | 18 在吴年来 ---google translator
【在 k*****r 的大作中提到】
: ににゃん！
: まびで、みいごう、たいたまでうつ ！
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X*******G
发帖数: 14887 | |
k*****r
发帖数: 21039 | 20 click发音 audio, 哈哈。
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 在吴年来 ---google translator
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N******K
发帖数: 10202 | 21 有球用 给你没有后门的源代码 工厂里装的是有的
【在 X*******G 的大作中提到】
: 赤匪可以要求所有硬盘厂商开放源代码啊。
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k*****r
发帖数: 21039 | 22 改进版：
にいにゃん！
まびで、みいごう、たいたまでうつ ！
http://translate.google.com/#auto/en/にいにゃん！まびで、みいご
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 在吴年来 ---google translator
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 23 雪登又立大功了
【在 g**1 的大作中提到】
: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/16/us-usa-cyberspying-id
: Russian researchers expose breakthrough U.S. spying program
: BY JOSEPH MENN
: SAN FRANCISCO Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:08pm EST
: (Reuters) - The U.S. National Security Agency has figured out how to hide
: spying software deep within hard drives made by Western Digital, Seagate,
: Toshiba and other top manufacturers, giving the agency the means to
: eavesdrop on the majority of the world's computers, according to cyber
: researchers and former operatives.
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | |
b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 25 http://spritesmods.com/?art=hddhack&page=3
【在 N******K 的大作中提到】
: 有球用 给你没有后门的源代码 工厂里装的是有的
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G**i
发帖数: 429 | 26 操，中招很久了。
【在 g**1 的大作中提到】
: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/16/us-usa-cyberspying-id
: Russian researchers expose breakthrough U.S. spying program
: BY JOSEPH MENN
: SAN FRANCISCO Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:08pm EST
: (Reuters) - The U.S. National Security Agency has figured out how to hide
: spying software deep within hard drives made by Western Digital, Seagate,
: Toshiba and other top manufacturers, giving the agency the means to
: eavesdrop on the majority of the world's computers, according to cyber
: researchers and former operatives.
|
N******K
发帖数: 10202 | 27 你jb的尺寸 nsa都知道了
【在 G**i 的大作中提到】
: 操，中招很久了。
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 28 The more secure you make something the less usable it is. Its an old joke
that the most secure computer is one that's never turned on...
【在 G**i 的大作中提到】
: 操，中招很久了。
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 29 John • 50 minutes ago
As an IT expert of 40 years experience and an American citizen, I can only
hope that this is misinformation. If the NSA has actually done this, we have
gone beyond the limit and have reduced ourselves to global bullies. This
violates so many privacy and basic human rights that China could
legitimately say that we are more authoritarian than they are. It scares me
that I live in a society that has a pretense of freedom yet does everything
it can to violate that freedom. |
b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 30 Torrey • 1 hour ago
Amendment IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
papers, and EFFECTS, AGAINST UNREASONABLE SEARCHES and seizures, shall not
be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported
by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be
searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
The entire Government of the United States of America has committed TREASON
against every citizen of this nation and they should be tried and executed
for their crimes!!! |
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a******9
发帖数: 20431 | 31 大兄弟正看着你
have
me
everything
【在 b********n 的大作中提到】
: Torrey • 1 hour ago
: Amendment IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
: papers, and EFFECTS, AGAINST UNREASONABLE SEARCHES and seizures, shall not
: be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported
: by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be
: searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
: The entire Government of the United States of America has committed TREASON
: against every citizen of this nation and they should be tried and executed
: for their crimes!!!
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N******K
发帖数: 10202 | 32 赶紧把摄像头拔下来
【在 a******9 的大作中提到】
: 大兄弟正看着你
:
: have
: me
: everything
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 33 Wupity • 58 minutes ago
You can assume that the big, old US multi-nationals like IBM pretty much
give the NSA and other US intelligence boys anything they ask for.
It's amazing to me that any foreign nation would want to employ IBM hardware
or software in their projects. Some of the secrets that are stolen probably
involve industrial espionage even against our own so-called "friends". Does
Germany's Merkel think that the spying our her cell phone by the NSA was
just a fluke, a simply mistake in protocol? |
h*******u
发帖数: 15326 | 34 操，一帮电脑盲瞎鸡巴高潮
给微软安个后门容易，你妹的Linux你怎么安这后门。
没有操作系统和其他硬件支持，硬盘上安这个几把玩意干毛啊
【在 g**1 的大作中提到】
: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/16/us-usa-cyberspying-id
: Russian researchers expose breakthrough U.S. spying program
: BY JOSEPH MENN
: SAN FRANCISCO Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:08pm EST
: (Reuters) - The U.S. National Security Agency has figured out how to hide
: spying software deep within hard drives made by Western Digital, Seagate,
: Toshiba and other top manufacturers, giving the agency the means to
: eavesdrop on the majority of the world's computers, according to cyber
: researchers and former operatives.
|
N******K
发帖数: 10202 | 35 看文章 macos也中招了
【在 h*******u 的大作中提到】
: 操，一帮电脑盲瞎鸡巴高潮
: 给微软安个后门容易，你妹的Linux你怎么安这后门。
: 没有操作系统和其他硬件支持，硬盘上安这个几把玩意干毛啊
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 36 “God forbid we should be twenty years without a rebellion. What country can
preserve its liberties if the rulers are not warned from time to time that
their people preserve the spirit of resistance?”
— President Thomas Jefferson (1787)
“This country , with its institutions, belongs to the people inhabit it.
Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise
their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to
dismember, or overthrow it.”
— President Abraham Lincoln (Inaugural Address, 1861)
“The right of Revolution is an inherent one. When people are oppressed by
their government, it is a natural right they enjoy to relieve themselves of
the oppression if they are strong enough, either by withdrawing from it, or
by overthrowing it and substituting a government more acceptable.”
— President Ulysses S. Grant (1885)
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution
inevitable."
— President John F. Kennedy (1962)
【在 a******9 的大作中提到】
: 大兄弟正看着你
:
: have
: me
: everything
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f***y
发帖数: 4447 | 37 western digital研发部门都是老中，肯定有人通报党中央 |
c*h
发帖数: 2598 | 38 这就是为啥美国人不让华为中兴进入美国市场。美国人要控制it产品。中国所有政府用
it产品应该使用国产的。 |
n*****8
发帖数: 19630 | |
f********8
发帖数: 5601 | 40 这年头，当特务搞情咨真方便。立法禁止也没什么用，上升到national security就应
付过去了。英国拍的“黑镜”电视剧还是很有前瞻性的。 |
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v***t
发帖数: 27100 | 41 锁男以后看毛片的时候，要记得物理断网
【在 g**1 的大作中提到】
: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/16/us-usa-cyberspying-id
: Russian researchers expose breakthrough U.S. spying program
: BY JOSEPH MENN
: SAN FRANCISCO Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:08pm EST
: (Reuters) - The U.S. National Security Agency has figured out how to hide
: spying software deep within hard drives made by Western Digital, Seagate,
: Toshiba and other top manufacturers, giving the agency the means to
: eavesdrop on the majority of the world's computers, according to cyber
: researchers and former operatives.
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g*****o
发帖数: 5955 | |
h*********n
发帖数: 11319 | 43 你是个傻逼
NSA在OpenSSL里种的bug10多年都没有被review出来。
NSA的技术积累和人力物力是你一帮it琐男的几千倍，你还在做梦“开源等于透明”
【在 h*******u 的大作中提到】
: 操，一帮电脑盲瞎鸡巴高潮
: 给微软安个后门容易，你妹的Linux你怎么安这后门。
: 没有操作系统和其他硬件支持，硬盘上安这个几把玩意干毛啊
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N******K
发帖数: 10202 | 44 it就是个傻逼
【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: 你是个傻逼
: NSA在OpenSSL里种的bug10多年都没有被review出来。
: NSA的技术积累和人力物力是你一帮it琐男的几千倍，你还在做梦“开源等于透明”
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k*******r
发帖数: 16963 | 45 其实有毛片的不要紧啊，就是被曝光也没啥啊，合法存在，最多是版权问题。不过下载
了儿童色情的，现在吓尿了吧，那是重罪，哈哈 |
h*******u
发帖数: 15326 | 46 你才是个傻逼
一个openssl和所有硬盘是一个规模吗
尼玛还得改所有操作系统接口，操
赶明儿你就看这消息就跟尼玛俄真理报找到外星人一个货色
【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: 你是个傻逼
: NSA在OpenSSL里种的bug10多年都没有被review出来。
: NSA的技术积累和人力物力是你一帮it琐男的几千倍，你还在做梦“开源等于透明”
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h*******u
发帖数: 15326 | 47 你就是个傻逼千老
【在 N******K 的大作中提到】
: it就是个傻逼
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 48 One of NSA’s most precious spying tools was just uncovered
http://news.yahoo.com/one-nsa-most-precious-spying-tools-just-u
Apparently, the NSA managed to create a smart virus that can hide in a hard
drive’s own firmware that boots up when the PC is turned on. Regular anti-
virus programs would not discover the infection, and computers with such
drives inside would offer a treasure trove of information to the spy agency
controlling them.
According to a former intelligence operative, the NSA did indeed develop the
technology, which is valued “as highly as Stuxnet.”
Reuters further reveals that disk drive firmware is viewed by spies and
cybersecurity experts as “the second-most valuable real estate on a PC for
a hacker, second only to the BIOS code invoked automatically as a computer
boots up.”
Drives from multiple companies have been found to contain the virus,
including Western Digital, Seagate, Toshiba, IBM, Micro Technology and
Samsung. Of those, Western Digital, Seagate and Micron said they have no
knowledge of the matter, while Toshiba and Samsung did not comment.
According to Kaspersky, getting the malicious code into a drive’s firmware
is not an easy task, and can’t be done with help of public tools, meaning
that the NSA had to have access to source codes for hard drives produced by
these companies. |
b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 49 This malware is installed with the operating system. |
x*******6
发帖数: 994 | 50 我是电脑盲，不过你跟NSA比是电脑盲。
【在 h*******u 的大作中提到】
: 操，一帮电脑盲瞎鸡巴高潮
: 给微软安个后门容易，你妹的Linux你怎么安这后门。
: 没有操作系统和其他硬件支持，硬盘上安这个几把玩意干毛啊
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | |
d*********8
发帖数: 2192 | 52 估计是提供了隐藏的存储和通讯之类的接口 具体木马可能还是靠近距离接触或者系统
漏洞 一旦植入就清除不了啦 低格都不行了 只能大铁锤
这玩意就是无数个电子版的余则成 只要成功唤醒一个就赚大发了 |
h******1
发帖数: 16295 | 53 几千倍？
索南也太高看自己了。
人家1万8千高素质专业人员，80年的积累，还实行绩效工资，更不用说硬件和无与伦比
的政策优势了。你找2万个索南马工，能顶上人家几千分之一就不错了。
【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: 你是个傻逼
: NSA在OpenSSL里种的bug10多年都没有被review出来。
: NSA的技术积累和人力物力是你一帮it琐男的几千倍，你还在做梦“开源等于透明”
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y****o
发帖数: 1535 | |
m******n
发帖数: 15691 | 55 还好我用的硬盘是Firwball 6.4GB
【在 g**1 的大作中提到】
: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/16/us-usa-cyberspying-id
: Russian researchers expose breakthrough U.S. spying program
: BY JOSEPH MENN
: SAN FRANCISCO Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:08pm EST
: (Reuters) - The U.S. National Security Agency has figured out how to hide
: spying software deep within hard drives made by Western Digital, Seagate,
: Toshiba and other top manufacturers, giving the agency the means to
: eavesdrop on the majority of the world's computers, according to cyber
: researchers and former operatives.
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m**d
发帖数: 21441 | |
