f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 1 这是我的斗争经验给大家分享。在网络上，每当华人说为什么那些杀黑人的白人警察不
被起诉，就华人被起诉了的时候，黑人最常用的争论就是，白人警察 get off，不等于
亚裔警察就该get off，犯罪就是犯罪，该怎么依法查处就怎么做。这样的时候最好的
反击办法就是以黑人之矛，攻黑人之盾，以他们对白人种族歧视他们的抗议的理由来作
为我们抗议他们的理由，证明我们的抗议跟他们的抗议一样合情合理。
这就是我昨天在赫芬顿邮报上评论时做的。即使是最死硬的黑人都没有反驳我。因为反
驳我，就是反驳他们自己。我将我的论点抄录在此，供大家网络斗争参考：
In the Chinese community, I am probably the staunchest supporter for the
Black people’s struggling for justice, because I myself am the same kind of
victim of racism in criminal justice like the Black people. Now I believe
Liang’s case is a trap that would hurt both the Chinese and African
American communities. First, I do understand the anger that the Black
community has over Gurley’s death, and the Chinese community feels so sorry
. But I also think the Chinese community’s anger of being scapegoated
because of our race is legitimate.
In Black people’s fight for justice, what they argue often is not whether
there is a wrong or not in a particular case, but whether this case is
equally treated like other similar cases before the law. So it goes like:
Black people are X times more likely to be sentenced to death or receive
harsher sentence, or stopped by police, etc. because of their race. The
logic here is called “similarly situated, similarly treated”, or equality,
a basic legal principle.
Now the Chinese think in the same way. Regardless of the merits of Officer
Liang’s case, is he being treated like those other officers in the similar
cases or even worse cases? Obviously not. If the White officers who
committed much more egregious intended killings like in Garner’s case get
life time in prison sentence, then we would view the a manslaughter
conviction of Liang’s unintended accidental killing as justifiable. If the
White officer who accidentally shot an unarmed civilian dead when patrolling
a NY’s housing project in 2004 got indicted, then we would view the
indictment of Liang as justified. This is the most similar case to that of
Liang. But no, they are never indicted. So Liang is the only one singled out
. Except that he is Asian, what else can be the reason? He is made a
scapegoat for those officers because he is Asian. This is not law, but
racism in criminal justice.
So here the Chinese got a same cause like the Black people. | f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 2 我当时还有一句话写好了都没有发出来，准备如果有人反驳我的话就发出来，结果没人
反驳。这句话是：What if a White judge tells you that that White guy got 2
years sentence doesn't mean you should not get 5 years' sentence, otherwise
every body would disrespect the law? | n******y
发帖数: 126 | 3 赞以彼之道，还彼之身。
of
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 这是我的斗争经验给大家分享。在网络上，每当华人说为什么那些杀黑人的白人警察不
: 被起诉，就华人被起诉了的时候，黑人最常用的争论就是，白人警察 get off，不等于
: 亚裔警察就该get off，犯罪就是犯罪，该怎么依法查处就怎么做。这样的时候最好的
: 反击办法就是以黑人之矛，攻黑人之盾，以他们对白人种族歧视他们的抗议的理由来作
: 为我们抗议他们的理由，证明我们的抗议跟他们的抗议一样合情合理。
: 这就是我昨天在赫芬顿邮报上评论时做的。即使是最死硬的黑人都没有反驳我。因为反
: 驳我，就是反驳他们自己。我将我的论点抄录在此，供大家网络斗争参考：
: In the Chinese community, I am probably the staunchest supporter for the
: Black people’s struggling for justice, because I myself am the same kind of
: victim of racism in criminal justice like the Black people. Now I believe
| c*****g
发帖数: 21627 | | f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 5 下面我又发了一贴来进一步探讨这点：
Many people say that one should be held criminally accountable for even an
accidentally killing, I totally agree, on condition that it is not for the
Asians only. But the reality appears that when Asians fall victim of
accidental killing, no one is criminally responsible, but when it’s the
other way around, like Liang, Asians would get double punishment. NYPD White
Officer Richard S. Neri accidentally fired and killed Timothy Stansbury
when patrolling a housing project, but did not get indicted. Here in Toronto
, a White police officer violated the traffic rule and accidentally killed a
Chinese elderly woman by his cruiser car on the sidewalk, he only paid a $
400 fine to the Chinese family. Also here in Toronto, a White young man
killed a Chinese woman pedestrian when racing on his bike on side walk,
police called it an accident, nothing happened to him. Another White man
also killed a Japanese man when biking on a side walk here in Toronto, and
only paid a small fine. | f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 6 还有，黑人紧紧抓住梁警官事后的表现做文章，故意揣着明白装糊涂地说梁怎么text他
的工会，不顾格里死活不救助。这已经有不少华人在努力澄清事实，就是梁警官两个人
最开始那几分钟根本没有意识到子弹打着了人。大家请继续努力澄清。
我补充一点，就是逻辑上梁警官也不可能明知有人被打中而不管。如下：
Many people fault Liang for not immediately calling for 911 and attending
first aid to Gurley. ( It was a misinformation that he texted his union rep)
. But both Liang and his partner officer testified that they did not realize
someone got shot by Liang’s bullet in the first few minutes. I somehow
believe Liang did not deliberately fail to come to Gurley’s aid. Had he
knew that someone got shot by him, saving the person’s life would have been
much more important than the question of whether to report the discharge of
his gun to him for saving his fate, because if someone got shot by him,
whether he reported the gun discharge or not, it would be known by his
superior anyway, and he would be in a much bigger trouble than losing his
job. So he could not have chosen to ignore the dying Gurley. Liang’s fault
is that he didn’t want to report his accidental discharge, but does that
constitute a crime? I don't know the law about that. But charging him
manslaughter is likely overblown. | C******y
发帖数: 3249 | 7 轮子还是先把小黄左B杀光，这次台狗的小黄B铁了心要把Liang 交出去 | s****e
发帖数: 720 | 8 觉得你的上一贴说的非常好。但这个贴子我觉得不应该用加拿大的例子，毕竟这里是美
国。
White
Toronto
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【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 下面我又发了一贴来进一步探讨这点：
: Many people say that one should be held criminally accountable for even an
: accidentally killing, I totally agree, on condition that it is not for the
: Asians only. But the reality appears that when Asians fall victim of
: accidental killing, no one is criminally responsible, but when it’s the
: other way around, like Liang, Asians would get double punishment. NYPD White
: Officer Richard S. Neri accidentally fired and killed Timothy Stansbury
: when patrolling a housing project, but did not get indicted. Here in Toronto
: , a White police officer violated the traffic rule and accidentally killed a
: Chinese elderly woman by his cruiser car on the sidewalk, he only paid a $
| C**********y
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