l*****z
发帖数: 3022 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: lovexyz (Call me maybe), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: Freddie Gray 其人
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri May 1 13:50:53 2015, 美东)
搞了半天警察原来是为民除害啊！
Freddie Gray：
His arrest record includes at least 18 arrests:
March 20, 2015: Possession of a Controlled Dangerous Substance
March 13, 2015: Malicious destruction of property, second-degree assault
January 20, 2015: Fourth-degree burglary, trespassing
January 14, 2015: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession
of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute
December 31, 2014: Possession of narcotics with intent to distribute
December 14, 2014: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance
August 31, 2014: Illegal gambling, trespassing
January 25, 2014: Possession of marijuana
September 28, 2013: Distribution of narcotics, unlawful possession of a
controlled dangerous substance, second-degree assault, second-degree escape
April 13, 2012: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent
to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance,
violation of probation
July 16, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession
with intent to distribute
March 28, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
March 14, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent
to manufacture and distribute
February 11, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance,
possession of a controlled dangerous substance
August 29, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent
to distribute, violation of probation
August 28, 2007: Possession of marijuana
August 23, 2007: False statement to a peace officer, unlawful possession of
a controlled dangerous substance
July 16, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to
distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance (2
counts) |
t*******y
发帖数: 21396 | 2 Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession with intent to
distribute
这个危险物品是指啥？枪支？ |
P*A
发帖数: 7996 | 3 吗啡或者安非他命一类的
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession with intent to
: distribute
: 这个危险物品是指啥？枪支？
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t*******y
发帖数: 21396 | 4 这是另外一条啊：
December 31, 2014: Possession of narcotics with intent to distribute
【在 P*A 的大作中提到】
: 吗啡或者安非他命一类的
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P*A
发帖数: 7996 | 5 那可能是炸药一类的了
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 这是另外一条啊：
: December 31, 2014: Possession of narcotics with intent to distribute
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l*****z
发帖数: 3022 | 6 为毛左逼媒体没人报道这个，还是吧地莫一个local小报报道的
possession
【在 l*****z 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
: 发信人: lovexyz (Call me maybe), 信区: WaterWorld
: 标 题: Freddie Gray 其人
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri May 1 13:50:53 2015, 美东)
: 搞了半天警察原来是为民除害啊！
: Freddie Gray：
: His arrest record includes at least 18 arrests:
: March 20, 2015: Possession of a Controlled Dangerous Substance
: March 13, 2015: Malicious destruction of property, second-degree assault
: January 20, 2015: Fourth-degree burglary, trespassing
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l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 7 我来解释：
1. 因为他是黑人，所以警方总拿各种罪名往他身上套。只要有嫌疑警方就逮捕，没有
证据所以都没起诉，但这说明警察故意在他身上找茬。
2. 白人像他这样三天两头犯事的更多，但是因为他是黑人，所以警察只抓他。证明警
方种族歧视。
总之左媒各种颠倒是非的说辞多了去了。跟左逼讲道理，他说你没证据。给他拿证据，
他说你cherry picking、捏造统计结果正是你种族歧视的集中体现。 |
t*******y
发帖数: 21396 | 8 这次没说种族歧视啊，因为巴尔第莫市长，警察长，检察长之类的都是黑人。
这次说的是经济地位不平等。
【在 l********k 的大作中提到】
: 我来解释：
: 1. 因为他是黑人，所以警方总拿各种罪名往他身上套。只要有嫌疑警方就逮捕，没有
: 证据所以都没起诉，但这说明警察故意在他身上找茬。
: 2. 白人像他这样三天两头犯事的更多，但是因为他是黑人，所以警察只抓他。证明警
: 方种族歧视。
: 总之左媒各种颠倒是非的说辞多了去了。跟左逼讲道理，他说你没证据。给他拿证据，
: 他说你cherry picking、捏造统计结果正是你种族歧视的集中体现。
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 9 You should remind people he was 25 years old, which means he was first
arrested multiple times at 17 in 2007.
All his arrests were drug related and non-violent.
I don't really know what's been achieved from those arrests other than
wasting tax payers money. |
T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 10
2007满18岁才有犯罪记录，之前属于青少犯罪都不公开，看这架势应该从小没少抓过。
非暴力犯罪就不是犯罪？那你把监狱里一大半人放出来吧，贩毒全合法，自家小孩染上
吸毒别怪谁，满街吸毒抢钱的自认倒霉。
tg 50克海洛因枪毙是比较极端，但有其内在道理。
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: You should remind people he was 25 years old, which means he was first
: arrested multiple times at 17 in 2007.
: All his arrests were drug related and non-violent.
: I don't really know what's been achieved from those arrests other than
: wasting tax payers money.
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 11 There is a difference between possession and possession with the intent to
sell.
Right now, both using and selling drugs are criminal offense. Selling should
be and using shouldn't.
If he was arrested when he was younger? Why? Don't trying to preach your
theory that he was born to break the law because he was black. Even if he
was using or selling drugs when he was a minor, he shouldn't be arrested for
it. The adults who give him the drug to use or sell should be.
Do you really think arresting users or foot soldiers of drug business at
the lowest end of the food chain really dose anything else other than
wasting tax payer's money?
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 2007满18岁才有犯罪记录，之前属于青少犯罪都不公开，看这架势应该从小没少抓过。
: 非暴力犯罪就不是犯罪？那你把监狱里一大半人放出来吧，贩毒全合法，自家小孩染上
: 吸毒别怪谁，满街吸毒抢钱的自认倒霉。
: tg 50克海洛因枪毙是比较极端，但有其内在道理。
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 12 And, I am not sure if you know anything at all about the situation of drug
addiction and drug trafficking in China. It exponentially growing and "tg
50克海洛因枪毙" didn't work at all.
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 2007满18岁才有犯罪记录，之前属于青少犯罪都不公开，看这架势应该从小没少抓过。
: 非暴力犯罪就不是犯罪？那你把监狱里一大半人放出来吧，贩毒全合法，自家小孩染上
: 吸毒别怪谁，满街吸毒抢钱的自认倒霉。
: tg 50克海洛因枪毙是比较极端，但有其内在道理。
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h*********n
发帖数: 11319 | 13 同样的逻辑，同样是现有法律基本执行不了，管不住非法流通的东西。
为什么民主党拼命的要收紧枪法，却一再放宽禁毒法？
我很好奇，请你解答一下
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: And, I am not sure if you know anything at all about the situation of drug
: addiction and drug trafficking in China. It exponentially growing and "tg
: 50克海洛因枪毙" didn't work at all.
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S******8
发帖数: 24594 | 14 希拉里说，贩毒是轻罪，不应该收监，害得人家骨肉分离。 |
v**o
发帖数: 4956 | |
w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 16 I don't know if your statement of "民主党拼命的要收紧枪法，却一再放宽禁毒法"
bears any truth, or is just your opinion. And whatever I say is my personal
opinion, for sure not explanation for any party's policy.
Personally, I feel more threatened by a well dressed non-authoritative
person carrying a gun than a homeless drug head. I can try to run from the
drug head if things turn violent, but I can't run faster than a bullet. If
everybody is free to carry a gun around, one might feel compelled to do so
too even without the emotional maturity to handle such a dangerous weapon.
【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: 同样的逻辑，同样是现有法律基本执行不了，管不住非法流通的东西。
: 为什么民主党拼命的要收紧枪法，却一再放宽禁毒法？
: 我很好奇，请你解答一下
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h*********n
发帖数: 11319 | 17 这里不是讨论你个人感觉。我问你的是作为民主党的拥护者，能不能解释一下对待同样
失败的两个执法领域，为什么民主党的态度显著不同。
如果你都理解不了民主党政策后面的逻辑，你支持他们个什么呢？】
你看到别人开着皮卡，会不会也特别紧张，希望把皮卡给禁了？因为高速上跟别人并排
走的时候，人家一动方向盘你多半就挂了。
法"
personal
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: I don't know if your statement of "民主党拼命的要收紧枪法，却一再放宽禁毒法"
: bears any truth, or is just your opinion. And whatever I say is my personal
: opinion, for sure not explanation for any party's policy.
: Personally, I feel more threatened by a well dressed non-authoritative
: person carrying a gun than a homeless drug head. I can try to run from the
: drug head if things turn violent, but I can't run faster than a bullet. If
: everybody is free to carry a gun around, one might feel compelled to do so
: too even without the emotional maturity to handle such a dangerous weapon.
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 18 Where do you get the idea that I am "民主党的拥护者"? Just because my
opinion agree with some of their policies?
To me, everything is about my personal opinion. I couldn't care less about
the logic behind some parties' policy.
I don't feel as threatened by a car. It's easier and less consequential to
the killer to kill with a gun than with a car. One would have better chance
to run away or survive a car crash.
【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: 这里不是讨论你个人感觉。我问你的是作为民主党的拥护者，能不能解释一下对待同样
: 失败的两个执法领域，为什么民主党的态度显著不同。
: 如果你都理解不了民主党政策后面的逻辑，你支持他们个什么呢？】
: 你看到别人开着皮卡，会不会也特别紧张，希望把皮卡给禁了？因为高速上跟别人并排
: 走的时候，人家一动方向盘你多半就挂了。
:
: 法"
: personal
:
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G****1
发帖数: 8414 | |
h*********n
发帖数: 11319 | 20 我不觉得你有什么独立的个人意见。你的调调全是整片从左派媒体那里抄袭过来的，一
丁点自己的逻辑都没有
chance
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: Where do you get the idea that I am "民主党的拥护者"? Just because my
: opinion agree with some of their policies?
: To me, everything is about my personal opinion. I couldn't care less about
: the logic behind some parties' policy.
: I don't feel as threatened by a car. It's easier and less consequential to
: the killer to kill with a gun than with a car. One would have better chance
: to run away or survive a car crash.
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 21 我不觉得你有什么独立的个人意见. --- This is your personal opinion, you are
entitled to it. When you make comments like "你的调调全是整片从左派媒体那里
抄袭过来的", better backed it up with evidence. Otherwise, it sounds more
like loser's whining.
【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: 我不觉得你有什么独立的个人意见。你的调调全是整片从左派媒体那里抄袭过来的，一
: 丁点自己的逻辑都没有
:
: chance
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h*********n
发帖数: 11319 | 22 我说了民主党的脑残逻辑，同样禁毒和禁枪同样失败，结果民主党对两者的态度截然不
同，这本身就是很扭曲的一件事儿
你这边半点逻辑都拿不出来，一口一个“我觉得民主党是对的”，“我觉得我感情上支
持他们”，“我觉得你是loser”
还敢再装点逼么？mitbbs是公共场合，要是没料就回家逼逼去，少在大街上装大尾巴狼
连时态都整不对，你这点英文就敢拽来拽去的。我来教你一句地道的：
Don't act like your shit doesn't stink.
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: 我不觉得你有什么独立的个人意见. --- This is your personal opinion, you are
: entitled to it. When you make comments like "你的调调全是整片从左派媒体那里
: 抄袭过来的", better backed it up with evidence. Otherwise, it sounds more
: like loser's whining.
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a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 23 You apparently have no clue what you are talking about. This guy most likely
have a birth day around May June time frame so he was 25 when he got killed.
When they arrested him in July 2007, he must be over 18. Law is minor's
arrests shouldn't be publicly available. Based on the track records, likely
he might get into trouble with law at even younger age just we didn't know
for sure.
Drug dealing could easily turn into violent if left unchecked. You would
take preventive action rather than post action if you can. Very ignorance to
claim it is waste of tax payer money.
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: You should remind people he was 25 years old, which means he was first
: arrested multiple times at 17 in 2007.
: All his arrests were drug related and non-violent.
: I don't really know what's been achieved from those arrests other than
: wasting tax payers money.
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a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 24 Of course it would do something.
Any business is about supply, distribution chain and demand. Attack anything
of it will have an effect. You keep demand highly alive, more ppl will take
the risk. You don't wait for a cold becoming deadly pneumonia before trying
to cure it. The approach might not as effective as you like. But nothing
wrong about the principle behind it.
An certainly better than leave it alone.
should
for
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: There is a difference between possession and possession with the intent to
: sell.
: Right now, both using and selling drugs are criminal offense. Selling should
: be and using shouldn't.
: If he was arrested when he was younger? Why? Don't trying to preach your
: theory that he was born to break the law because he was black. Even if he
: was using or selling drugs when he was a minor, he shouldn't be arrested for
: it. The adults who give him the drug to use or sell should be.
: Do you really think arresting users or foot soldiers of drug business at
: the lowest end of the food chain really dose anything else other than
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a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 25 Its exponential growing because it was once almost fully suppressed. If it
didn't somehow work in past, china might have over 100M drug addicts.
The growth recently mainly because the policy loosing up significantly.
Execute a tight control just too costly and focus shifted.
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: And, I am not sure if you know anything at all about the situation of drug
: addiction and drug trafficking in China. It exponentially growing and "tg
: 50克海洛因枪毙" didn't work at all.
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l*****z
发帖数: 3022 | 26 看这条
August 29, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent
to distribute, violation of probation
17/18 岁就 violation of probation. 是不是说明未成年就在局子里服过刑？
should
for
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: There is a difference between possession and possession with the intent to
: sell.
: Right now, both using and selling drugs are criminal offense. Selling should
: be and using shouldn't.
: If he was arrested when he was younger? Why? Don't trying to preach your
: theory that he was born to break the law because he was black. Even if he
: was using or selling drugs when he was a minor, he shouldn't be arrested for
: it. The adults who give him the drug to use or sell should be.
: Do you really think arresting users or foot soldiers of drug business at
: the lowest end of the food chain really dose anything else other than
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j*****p
发帖数: 24000 | 27 我擦，这天使果然是真天使
天使在人间是过客，警察送他会天国了 |
s*******d
发帖数: 17566 | 28 一般指像海洛因,白粉之类的比较厉害的毒品.
【在 P*A 的大作中提到】
: 那可能是炸药一类的了
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v**********m
发帖数: 5516 | 29 controlled dangerous substance 通指毒品，EHS 和FDA对此有清单的。一般州政府有
实验室做毒品监督。
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession with intent to
: distribute
: 这个危险物品是指啥？枪支？
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