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z*******3
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发信人: lczlcz (lcz), 信区: USANews
标 题: 加拿大银行承认衰退开始了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jul 19 16:28:19 2015, 美东)
Bank of Canada Admits Recession: Shades of Voldemort; The Solution: More
Bubbles; Operation Twist Canadian Style?
The Bank of Canada admitted on Wednesday that Canada was in Recession. Well
sort of.
Bank of Canada Governor Stephen Poloz is afraid to speak the "R-Word".
Instead, Poloz phrased it this way: "Real GDP is now projected to have
contracted modestly in the first half of the year."
Shades of Voldemort
Poloz further went out of his way to state the "R-word is unhelpful".
Pressed by reporters to just come out and use the R-word, Poloz dug in.
"I just find the discussion quite unhelpful," he sniffed. "It's
especially unhelpful when what has happened to the economy is very narrowly
defined."
Recession an Easy Call
Calling the Canadian recession was one of the easiest calls ever. I did so
on January 31, in Canada in Recession, US Will Follow in 2015.
What made the Canadian recession easy to spot was the Canadian yield curve
inverted out to three years following a surprise rate cut by the Bank of
Canada on January 21.
It remains to be seen if the US follows. The US contracted in the first
quarter, but the second quarter rebound was a bit stronger than I expected.
On January 21, in response to the surprise cut, I wrote Canadian Recession
Coming Up: Yield Curve Inverts Following Unexpected Rate Cut; Loonie at Six-
Year Low.
In that post I awarded Canada the "Blue Ribbon" for the first yield curve
inversion of any major country following the great financial crisis. I am
not aware of anyone else noticing or commenting on the yield-curve inversion
at the time.
Denial Sets In Already
Two consecutive quarters of GDP contraction are a sufficient but not
necessary condition for recession. Indeed the NBER, the official arbiter of
US recessions, has called the start of recessions in quarters in which GDP
was positive.
I have not seen anyone deny a recession when there has been 2 quarters of
negative growth, "mild" or not, until now.
The Globe and Mail amusingly claims Canada’s Fall into Recession Far from a
Sure Thing.
The question of whether Canada slipped into a recession in the first
half of 2015 may depend on our definition of “recession.” And most of us
have been using the wrong one, says one of the country’s top experts on
measuring business cycles.
Many commentators pointed at the Bank of Canada’s revelation this week
that the Canadian economy likely contracted in the second quarter as
evidence that the country met the “technical” definition of a recession:
two consecutive quarters of declining gross domestic product. Indeed, much
was made of Bank of Canada Governor Stephen Poloz’s unwillingness to even
utter the word “recession” after the central bank’s interest-rate cut
Wednesday.
The Solution: More Bubbles
Apparently, if you don't like the word recession, you not only don't say it,
you change the meaning of it.
Then you need to do something to make the problem go away. The tried and
true central bank method the world over is to blow more bubbles.
Pater Tenebrarum at the Acting Man blog offered his well thought out take in
Bank of Canada Decides More Bubble-Blowing is Needed
You Can’t Keep the Printing Press Idle for too Long …
We have recently portrayed Canada’s new central bank governor Stephen
Poloz, to whom we have alternately referred to as a comedian and a
delusional bubble blower. This may perhaps strike some readers as
uncharitable; then again, central economic planning bureaucrats should be
fair game, especially as nearly all of them are slaves to hoary inflationism
and are apodictically certain to do grave damage to the economy, based on
economic theories that at best deserve to be called a form of voodoo. It’s
really that bad.
As readers may recall, Mr. Poloz has continued where his fellow bubble-
blower and predecessor Mark Carney left off, by keeping the bubble blown
with all his might. We imagine he may be a bit intimidated by the truly
daunting size the combined real estate and consumer credit bubbles have
attained in Canada. To call them monuments to monetary megalomania would be
an understatement. Among developed nations, only the bubbles in a few
Scandinavian countries and Australia can hold a candle to them.
We were therefore decidedly unsurprised when it emerged yesterday that
the Bank of Canada has cut rates again – apparently the Canadian economy
has entered an official recession, which must however not be mentioned.
Canadian Household Debt
Bubble for the Record Books
The above chart reads "This is a credit bubble for the history books. The
2008 Bubble couldn't stop it from growing, so when it finally does implode,
it will probably be quite spectacular. This is likely to go hand-in-hand
with the demise of the equally egregious housing bubble."
Chart courtesy of Pater Tenebrarum. Pater also offered these pertinent
comments.
Several years go already about one third of Canadians reported in a
survey that their debt worries caused them to have sleeping problems. We can
certainly believe it.
Stephen Poloz, comedian, gifted pantomime, delusional bubble blower and
hoary inflationist, sprung directly from the John Law School of economics (
just as the rest of the developed world’s central planners), is trying to
prolong the bubble’s life some more. So far, he has been successful, but he
is riding a tiger. The sooner such policies are discredited, the better it
will be for all of us, even though the process is likely to be painful for
many.
Change 'likely' to 'will be' and many to 'nearly everyone, but especially
those who got into the real estate bubble in the latter stages' and Pater is
precisely correct.
Yield Curve Still Inverted
By the way, portions of the Canadian Yield Curve are still inverted, albeit
very slightly. I compiled this list of rates today from Investing.Com.
30-Year: 2.242%
10-Year: 1.562%
7-Year: 1.154%
5-Year: 0.705%
4-Year: 0.446%
3-Year: 0.383%
2-Year: 0.423%
1-Year: 0.445%
6-Month: 0.435%
3-Month: 0.400%
1-Month: 0.390%
Note the inversion: 1M, 3M, 6M, 1Y, and 2Y yields are all higher than the 3Y
yield.
Operation Twist, Canada Style
I smell an "Operation Twist" type move by the Canadian central bank to
rectify this horrific "recession-signaling" condition.
If so, the sweet spot for banks and hedge funds to front-run the trade
appears to be 5Y or 7Y notes.
Then again, some banks may already be in on it. I suspect some of them were
not at all surprised by the surprise announcement in January. That's simply
the way the system "works".
t******t
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这些发达国家的玩法没那么简单,尤其是经济收入,生活水平,福利体系和人口结构一
直比美国还发达的那几个。
z******o
发帖数: 3073
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加拿大普通人购买力差不多美国人30%吧

【在 t******t 的大作中提到】
: 这些发达国家的玩法没那么简单,尤其是经济收入,生活水平,福利体系和人口结构一
: 直比美国还发达的那几个。

p*******p
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斗嘴改变不了事实,呵呵。
墨黑人口国家能达到发达国家水平,墨西哥人就不用到处跑了。
苦逼二流美国中间家庭才5万美元收入,买保险和养老金了吗?

【在 z******o 的大作中提到】
: 加拿大普通人购买力差不多美国人30%吧
z*******3
发帖数: 13709
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墨黑是拉低平均数的
但是澳加蓝领工人是拉高平均数的
作为一般大学毕业生,显然不划算
倒是蓝领很开心

【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 斗嘴改变不了事实,呵呵。
: 墨黑人口国家能达到发达国家水平,墨西哥人就不用到处跑了。
: 苦逼二流美国中间家庭才5万美元收入,买保险和养老金了吗?

g*q
发帖数: 26623
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加拿大经济完全靠油气,油气痿了就没戏了.
土澳的状态也差不多,不过土澳多一个铁矿石,今后铁矿石也不是有前途的东西.
t******t
发帖数: 271
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拉低的不是工资平均数,而是中位数。
这说明美国有1.6亿家庭人口处在极低收入之中。
所有的肮脏和贫穷都会由墨黑国全社会共同承担,和非洲墨西哥一样。

【在 z*******3 的大作中提到】
:
: 墨黑是拉低平均数的
: 但是澳加蓝领工人是拉高平均数的
: 作为一般大学毕业生,显然不划算
: 倒是蓝领很开心

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